If IOS/iPad was like the Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, then would there be a version of Synchronet for it too? That would be so cool if that ever happened.

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If IOS/iPad was like the Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, then would there be a version of Synchronet for it too? That would be so cool if that ever happened.

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I suppose if you're bored and have some time and a few $$ and want to set up a Synchronet BBS System on your i<device> you could check this out: https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/02/22/iphone-ipad-windows-10/

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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

If IOS/iPad was like the Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, then would
there be a version of Synchronet for it too? That would be so
cool if that ever happened.

A perfect example of the crappy questions that you always ask, and
have been asked (nicely) numerous times, by numerous people, to
improve on.

What does it even mean? If IOS/iPad was "like" MSP...? They're
two completely different things. What in the f**k do you mean by
that?

Do you understand what I'm asking you? How could the two things
be considered similar ("like")?



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Re: IOSynchronet
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 06 2020 08:30 pm

If IOS/iPad was like the Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, then would there be a version of Synchronet for it too? That would be so cool if that ever happened.

Well, a key difference is that the Surface Pro uses an Intel processor and basically runs the desktop version of Windows 10. iPads use an Apple-produced ARM-based processor and run the iPad OS. And there wouldn't be a specific version of Synchronet for the Surface Pro - It would be the same version of Synchronet everyone else is using.

Apple plans to migrate their Macs from Intel to their own ARM-based CPUs too, so you won't be able to install Windows natively on a Mac anymore.

If you jailbreak an iPad, you should be able to get SSH access to a command prompt on it, and I suspect there may be a way to build & run Synchronet on it.

Nightfox

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Re: IOSynchronet
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Oct 06 2020 08:30 pm

Well, a key difference is that the Surface Pro uses an Intel processor and basically runs the desktop version of Windows 10. iPads use an Apple-produced ARM-based processor and run the iPad OS. And there wouldn't be a specific version of Synchronet for the Surface Pro - It would be the same version of Synchronet everyone else is using.

Apple plans to migrate their Macs from Intel to their own ARM-based CPUs too, so you won't be able to install Windows natively on a Mac anymore.

If you jailbreak an iPad, you should be able to get SSH access to a command prompt on it, and I suspect there may be a way to build & run Synchronet on it.

Nightfox

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I guess people are gonna buy my PCs then.

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More*

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I guess people are gonna buy my PCs then.

I'd go offline forever first.

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On 10/7/2020 1:03 PM, Nightfox wrote:

If you jailbreak an iPad, you should be able to get SSH access to a command prompt on it, and I suspect there may be a way to build & run Synchronet on it.

Even if you managed to get it jailbroken, then build and install a
synchronet target for iOS, and from there get it running (let alone at startup, automatically), the system would suspend the process regularly preventing it from being useful, and if that were overcome it would kill
the battery life of the devoce...

And if you're going to plug it any anyway, just buy a fucking raspberry
pi kit and use that instead.

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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Oct 10 2020 03:08 pm

Even if you managed to get it jailbroken, then build and install a synchronet target for iOS, and from there get it running (let alone at startup, automatically), the system would suspend the process regularly preventing it from being useful, and if that were overcome it would kill the battery life of the devoce...

Why would it get suspended? And as far as battery life, I'd just leave it plugged in all the time. If you're running a BBS on a device 24/7, you shouldn't really be carrying that device around with you.

And if you're going to plug it any anyway, just buy a fucking raspberry pi kit and use that instead.

I'd agree.

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On 10/10/2020 6:14 PM, Nightfox wrote:

Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Oct 10 2020 03:08 pm

Tr> Even if you managed to get it jailbroken, then build and install a
Tr> synchronet target for iOS, and from there get it running (let alone at
Tr> startup, automatically), the system would suspend the process regularly
Tr> preventing it from being useful, and if that were overcome it would kill
Tr> the battery life of the devoce...

Why would it get suspended? And as far as battery life, I'd just leave it plugged in all the time. If you're running a BBS on a device 24/7, you shouldn't really be carrying that device around with you.

Because iOS suspends background programs as regular course, they have different APIs for registering/handling message notifications.



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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Oct 10 2020 10:16 pm

Why would it get suspended? And as far as battery life, I'd just

Because iOS suspends background programs as regular course, they have different APIs for registering/handling message notifications.

Would that apply to programs running on the command line? I'm wondering if that only applies to iOS mobile GUI apps. If you're at the command line, I'd expect it to be a regular *NIX environment, and if you were to run Synchronet (especially as a service or something), I wonder if it would run similarly to a command-line app on mac OS X or like on any other *nix system.

Nightfox

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On 10-10-20 15:08, Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-

And if you're going to plug it any anyway, just buy a fucking raspberry
pi kit and use that instead.

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for running a BBS (as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).


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On 10/10/2020 11:53 PM, Nightfox wrote:

Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Oct 10 2020 10:16 pm

>> Why would it get suspended? And as far as battery life, I'd just

Tr> Because iOS suspends background programs as regular course, they have
Tr> different APIs for registering/handling message notifications.

Would that apply to programs running on the command line? I'm wondering if that only applies to iOS mobile GUI apps. If you're at the command line, I'd expect it to be a regular *NIX environment, and if you were to run Synchronet (especially as a service or something), I wonder if it would run similarly to a command-line app on mac OS X or like on any other *nix system.

I don't know iOS well enough to even speculate tbh... I still think it's
a bad idea all around... an rPI in a tablet case with a touch display,
maybe.. an actual tablet with a tablet environment, not so much.

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On 10/11/2020 2:48 AM, Tony Langdon wrote:

And if you're going to plug it any anyway, just buy a fucking raspberry
pi kit and use that instead.

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for running a BBS
(as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a
concern, or should be.


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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tracker1 to Tony Langdon on Sun Oct 11 2020 12:42 pm

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for
running a BBS (as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a concern, or should be.

I still like having some doors set up locally on my BBS. I'd feel like my BBS is less complete without some doors set up.. I think DoorParty is a cool idea, but you're reliant on that service being available, and if it goes down, you've lost some doors.

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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tracker1 to Tony Langdon on Sun Oct 11 2020 12:42 pm

On 10/11/2020 2:48 AM, Tony Langdon wrote:

And if you're going to plug it any anyway, just buy a fucking
raspberry pi kit and use that instead.

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for
running a BBS
(as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a concern, or should be.

yeah but have you tried those doorgame servers? when i do it's really not impressive.
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Nightfox wrote to Tracker1 <=-

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for
running a BBS (as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a concern, or should be.

I still like having some doors set up locally on my BBS. I'd
feel like my BBS is less complete without some doors set up.. I
think DoorParty is a cool idea, but you're reliant on that
service being available, and if it goes down, you've lost some
doors.

Agreed. I like to have some local doors, and I do use the BBSLink
door server also. Both have their uses, and as you said, if the
remote server goes down (which they do), you still have some doors
available.



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MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for
running a BBS
(as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a concern, or should be.

yeah but have you tried those doorgame servers? when i do it's
really not impressive.

I haven't tried DoorParty, but I do have BBSLink set up, and I
think it's quite impressive. Works great.



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On 10-11-20 12:42, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a concern, or should be.

True, and DoorParty, etc, also offer other advantages, like concentrating the gameplay from several systems into the one set of games, which would make them more interesting for users.


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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tony Langdon to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 12 2020 07:38 pm

True, and DoorParty, etc, also offer other advantages, like concentrating the gameplay from several systems into the one set of games, which would make them more interesting for users.

Without players there are no "multiplayer" games. I feel there are too many BBSes with Door games so the "players" are spread to thin. Here's my solution. GLOBAL WAR players play on BBSLINK. ;-)

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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tony Langdon to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 12 2020 07:38 pm

True, and DoorParty, etc, also offer other advantages, like concentrating the gameplay from several systems into the one set of games, which would make them more interesting for users.

Without players there are no "multiplayer" games. I feel there are too many BBSes with Door games so the "players" are spread too thin. Here's my solution. GLOBAL WAR players play on BBSLINK. ;-)

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Tony Langdon wrote to Tracker1 <=-

True, and DoorParty, etc, also offer other advantages, like
concentrating the gameplay from several systems into the one set of
games, which would make them more interesting for users.

Yeah, locally installed games can be a ghost-town. My Global War
instance is still there out of a sense of nostalgia when I had
several games going on at once, but I haven't seen a player there in
years.



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On 10/11/2020 1:02 PM, Nightfox wrote:

Yep, that would be the more practical path. The Pi is ideal for
running a BBS (as long as you're not planning on running DOS doors).

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a
concern, or should be.

I still like having some doors set up locally on my BBS. I'd feel like my BBS is less complete without some doors set up.. I think DoorParty is a cool idea, but you're reliant on that service being available, and if it goes down, you've lost some doors.

That's fair, and soem things you can do in Linux on an RPi, you could
use qemu for your DOS doors (but only one user at a time in any given
door), or you could run doors that are cross platform/environment or are
JS doors (in terms of sync).

The point was that an RPi is still an option, just depends on one's focus.

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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tony Langdon to Tracker1 on Mon Oct 12 2020 07:38 pm

On 10-11-20 12:42, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

With a couple setups like DoorParty, I'm not sure that's as big of a
concern, or should be.

True, and DoorParty, etc, also offer other advantages, like concentrating the gameplay from several systems into the one set of games, which would make them more interesting for users.

in theory it may do that, but does it actually do that?

with users i see them gravitate to ONE system to play globalwar with others. they get a place and stick with it.
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On 10-12-20 08:17, HusTler wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Without players there are no "multiplayer" games. I feel there are
too many BBSes with Door games so the "players" are spread to thin.
Here's my solution. GLOBAL WAR players play on BBSLINK. ;-)

Yes, that's the point I was trying to make, the game servers help bring players together from multiple BBSs.

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On 10-12-20 06:37, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Yeah, locally installed games can be a ghost-town. My Global War
instance is still there out of a sense of nostalgia when I had
several games going on at once, but I haven't seen a player there in
years.

I can understand. Reminds me, I should setup BBSLink again, I lost the config when the BBS died a few years ago and never put it back. :(

And should also setup DoorParty.


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Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tony Langdon to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 13 2020 07:19 pm

I can understand. Reminds me, I should setup BBSLink again, I lost the config when the BBS died a few years ago and never put it back. :(

And should also setup DoorParty.

Both are super easy to setup! Especially Door Party, thanks to echicken's awesome script.

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On 10-13-20 14:52, BlaZ wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Re: Re: IOSynchronet
By: Tony Langdon to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 13 2020 07:19 pm

I can understand. Reminds me, I should setup BBSLink again, I lost the config when the BBS died a few years ago and never put it back. :(

And should also setup DoorParty.

Both are super easy to setup! Especially Door Party, thanks to
echicken's awesome script.

Yeah, I remember BBSLink was dead easy, it's just one of those "When I get around to it" things.


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