Extreme case: in thedark universe of the future, humans become fat lazy useless asses that are capable of no useful work whatsoever, and all the
Re: Re: The Fourth Industrial Revolution
By: Ogg to All on Mon Aug 03 2020 06:28 pm
But how will the rich corporations sustain their riches? Who is going
to
If you have tons of Artificial General Intelligence equipped robots you need no money to be rich anymore. Just put your robots to work. Let them manufacture your stuff for your own consumption. No need to buy anything from anybody since your robots will create it for you on your command.
On 08-03-20 18:28, Ogg wrote to All <=-
What exactly are the non-working people going to do? Is it supposed to
Depends on their imagination, I have little trouble filling my day, so
much so that when I'm not working (like now), people joke that I have
no time to work anyway! :)
Projects, interests, quality time at home, errands, catching up with
and doing favours for friends, and so on.
On 08-06-20 20:43, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The discussion was what would humans do when they are all jobless and replaced by automation. At least total displacement is the theorical extreme. I don't think that would ever be the reality. Money
ultimately drives progress and/or exploitation. Rich people need other people.
The writers for StarTrek or similar have explored the idea of societies where automation surpasses human efficiency, and eventually androids/ machines "decide" that humans are a hinderance to further efficiency therefore must be destroyed.
The discussion was what would humans do when they are all jobless and replaced by automation. At least total displacement is the theorical extreme. I don't think that would ever be the reality. Money ultimately drives progress and/or exploitation. Rich people need other people.
The writers for StarTrek or similar have explored the idea of societies where automation surpasses human efficiency, and eventually androids/ machines "decide" that humans are a hinderance to further efficiency therefore must be destroyed.
...Money ultimately drives progress and/or exploitation. Rich people
need other people.
The writers for StarTrek or similar have explored the idea of
societies where automation surpasses human efficiency, and eventually
androids/machines "decide" that humans are a hinderance to further
efficiency therefore must be destroyed.
"So we cannot know if we will be infinitely helped by AI, or ignored by
it and side-lined, or conceivably destroyed by it. Unless we learn how
to prepare for, and avoid the potential risks, AI could be the worst
event in the history of our civilization." - Stephen Hawking
This reminds me of the weird cult in Deus Ex known as The Church of the Machine God. Its acolytes believed that it was imperative man merge
with AI in order to avoid being destroyed by it.
I am glad you posted that.
From a BBC article:
"Stanley Kubrick's film 2001 and its murderous computer HAL encapsulate
many people's fears of how AI could pose a threat to human life"
Even Elon Musk has reservations on AI. I haven't read much on Elon's concerns, but I will now.
My take on AI is that although it is referred to "machine learning" by engineers, it is still a bunch of if/then/else sequences done very fast to appear like the device is smart. The if/then/else stuff and any other considerations still have to be programmed by humans. Humans are not perfect and cannot forsee all scenarios.
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