• Computer randomly turning

    From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to All on Sat Jul 8 12:49:00 2017
    Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
    randomly turning off for no reason?


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Matthew Munson on Sat Jul 8 12:56:03 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

    Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
    randomly turning off for no reason?

    Could be either. Do you know the operating range of your processor and have a way to check it's current temp?

    digital man

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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Jul 8 02:02:00 2017
    Could be either. Do you know the operating range of your processor and have a
    way to check it's current temp?
    I think I would likely need to try Speccy. I also downgraded the
    graphics performance of my mmo during the hot weather to directx 9
    instead of 11.

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Matthew Munson on Sat Jul 8 16:42:47 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

    Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
    randomly turning off for no reason?

    In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Matthew Munson on Sat Jul 8 15:42:13 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

    Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
    randomly turning off for no reason?

    there is a good chance that it's over heating, try moving it to a cooler spot or add a fan.
    1st thing I would do though is un plug it pull off side panels and take it outside, then I would use my air compresser to blow out all the dust bunnies. or canned air would also work.
    you could also go into bios and see what your CPU temp is.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Sun Jul 9 00:42:15 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

    Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
    randomly turning off for no reason?


    so you checked your temps on your cpu and motherboard and what are they?
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 9 00:44:13 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Denn Gray to Matthew Munson on Sat Jul 08 2017 03:42 pm

    there is a good chance that it's over heating, try moving it to a cooler spot or add a fan.
    1st thing I would do though is un plug it pull off side panels and take it outside, then I would use my air compresser to blow out all the dust bunnies. or canned air would also work.
    you could also go into bios and see what your CPU temp is.



    for years i just used to have a boxfan on my computers. now i just have a real good computer and video card that doesnt fucking overheat.
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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Mro on Sun Jul 9 07:11:04 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Mro to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 09 2017 12:44 am

    there is a good chance that it's over heating, try moving it to a
    cooler spot or add a fan.
    1st thing I would do though is un plug it pull off side panels and
    take it outside, then I would use my air compresser to blow out all
    the dust bunnies. or canned air would also work.
    you could also go into bios and see what your CPU temp is.



    for years i just used to have a boxfan on my computers. now i just have a real good computer and video card that doesnt fucking overheat.

    My computer is right by the central air duct in my Den, I do take it and blow it out occasionally I am thinking about gettin a new motherboard cpu mem combo this PC is getting old and I need something that will rip my DVD'd to MKV faster, right now it takes 3 hours per DVD.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 9 12:41:27 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Denn Gray to Mro on Sun Jul 09 2017 07:11 am

    My computer is right by the central air duct in my Den, I do take it and blow it out occasionally I am thinking about gettin a new motherboard cpu mem combo this PC is getting old and I need something that will rip my DVD'd to MKV faster, right now it takes 3 hours per DVD.

    Just curious: what software do you use for ripping DVDs?

    digital man

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Digital Man on Sun Jul 9 15:32:09 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Digital Man to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 09 2017 12:41 pm

    motherboard cpu mem combo this PC is getting old and I need something
    that will rip my DVD'd to MKV faster, right now it takes 3 hours per
    DVD.

    Just curious: what software do you use for ripping DVDs?

    digital man

    Any Video Converter Deluxe.

    With the right CPU and graphics card its supposed to rip a DVD to MKV or MP4 in 15 minutes, but my setup was bought in like 2005 so its out dated for the video stuff.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 9 18:34:07 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Denn Gray to Digital Man on Sun Jul 09 2017 03:32 pm

    With the right CPU and graphics card its supposed to rip a DVD to MKV or MP4 in 15 minutes, but my setup was bought in like 2005 so its out dated for the video stuff.


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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to DEEPTHAW on Sun Jul 9 03:13:00 2017
    In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.
    Is there a way to test a power supply?

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 12:30:00 2017
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    In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.
    Is there a way to test a power supply?

    Easiest way is to substitute a known good one.

    Otherwise you'd need to check voltges (under load) and a CRO for checking supply ripple would be handy too.


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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Mro on Sun Jul 9 21:19:09 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Mro to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 09 2017 06:34 pm

    With the right CPU and graphics card its supposed to rip a DVD to MKV
    or MP4 in 15 minutes, but my setup was bought in like 2005 so its out
    dated for the video stuff.


    i doubt it could rip and encode a dvd into a format that looks good in 15 mins.

    you could be right.
    I have dual dvd burners on this old PC and I start the encoding and click the checkbox that turns of the PC when it's done, then I goto bed :)
    this old PC still works pretty good.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Sun Jul 9 23:03:32 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to DEEPTHAW on Sun Jul 09 2017 03:13 am

    In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.
    Is there a way to test a power supply?

    meter.

    you never posted your temps.
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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to MRO on Sun Jul 9 11:38:00 2017
    you never posted your temps.
    63C

    i7-3700

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 09:13:46 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to DEEPTHAW on Sun Jul 09 2017 03:13 am

    Is there a way to test a power supply?

    You can buy a power supply tester NewEgg or Amazon for pretty cheap. I've used them, they're not hard to figure out.

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 07:22:19 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

    you never posted your temps.
    63C

    ok that's apx 155 F
    for an i7 that seems pretty normal.

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  • From Denn Gray@VERT/OUTWEST to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 07:45:13 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

    you never posted your temps.
    63C

    i7-3700


    Actually I just googled temps for the i7 its a little high.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 17:04:18 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

    you never posted your temps.
    63C

    i7-3700



    that's a little hot but not bad. is that WHILE gaming?
    i have an i7 7700 and it's min 32.5 max 54.5c
    not gaming right now.

    crappy gforce 1050ti is 27c
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn Gray on Mon Jul 10 17:05:38 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Denn Gray to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 2017 07:45 am

    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

    you never posted your temps.
    63C

    i7-3700


    Actually I just googled temps for the i7 its a little high.



    he probably needs to clean off his thermal paste and apply some new stuff.

    but he probably has a hw problem that is causing the rebooting. he needs to trouble shoot.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mro on Tue Jul 11 15:23:00 2017
    Mro wrote to Denn Gray <=-

    he probably needs to clean off his thermal paste and apply some new
    stuff.

    but he probably has a hw problem that is causing the rebooting. he
    needs to trouble shoot.

    The top 3 culprits for random reboots that I've seen are:

    Overheating CPU.
    Faulty RAM.
    Faulty power supply.

    I have also seen a faulty motherboard do it too.

    In all cases, except the first (because diagnostics are available in the BIOS), substitution of suspect components is the best way to troubleshoot. CPU overheating is usually caused by either faulty heatsink mounting, or a failed CPU fan.

    Last problem of this nature I've dealt with was a faulty power supply, easy $50 fix. :)


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  • From James Maddeaux@VERT/BASSLINE to Vk3jed on Tue Jul 11 09:33:57 2017
    Re: Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Vk3jed to Mro on Tue Jul 11 2017 03:23 pm

    Overheating CPU.
    Faulty RAM.
    Faulty power supply.
    I have also seen a faulty motherboard do it too.

    Sorry to jump on your thread! Overheating CPU, alot of times cleaning the old Thermal Paste off the heatsink and CPU & reapplying will work ! =) (I prefer arctic silver)

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Tue Jul 11 16:14:20 2017
    Re: Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Vk3jed to Mro on Tue Jul 11 2017 03:23 pm

    Mro wrote to Denn Gray <=-

    he probably needs to clean off his thermal paste and apply some new stuff.

    but he probably has a hw problem that is causing the rebooting. he needs to trouble shoot.

    The top 3 culprits for random reboots that I've seen are:

    Overheating CPU.
    Faulty RAM.
    Faulty power supply.

    I have also seen a faulty motherboard do it too.



    i've had bad memory a few times, and that just caused crazy random corruption shit to happen.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to James Maddeaux on Wed Jul 12 08:31:00 2017
    James Maddeaux wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Sorry to jump on your thread! Overheating CPU, alot of times cleaning
    the old Thermal Paste off the heatsink and CPU & reapplying will work !
    =) (I prefer arctic silver)

    I've only struck this issue once, had a lot more CPU fans die in the early Pentium days. Modern CPU fans seem to be extremely reliable.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mro on Wed Jul 12 08:33:00 2017
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    i've had bad memory a few times, and that just caused crazy random corruption shit to happen.

    Related - mismatched RAM can also cause instability. I've found it easiest to buy all of my RAM at once from the same source. On the occasions I've later added RAM to a system, I've found the odds of incompatibility to be high. As a resuly, when buying a new system, I go for as much RAM as I can afford, then never touch it.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wed Jul 12 15:50:51 2017
    Re: Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Vk3jed to Mro on Wed Jul 12 2017 08:33 am

    Related - mismatched RAM can also cause instability. I've found it easiest to buy all of my RAM at once from the same source. On the occasions I've later added RAM to a system, I've found the odds of incompatibility to be high. As a resuly, when buying a new system, I go for as much RAM as I can afford, then never touch it.

    If I'm adding RAM, I usually make sure I buy the same brand and type to match my existing RAM. I haven't had many issues..

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu Jul 13 10:16:00 2017
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    If I'm adding RAM, I usually make sure I buy the same brand and type to match my existing RAM. I haven't had many issues..

    Yeah, I've found it hard to match RAM if there's been some time between purchases, easiest to buy all your RAM at the one time. I've had issues on a couple of occasions. The first was with a desktop I went to add RAM to. Think I ended up buying a second stick and replacing the original RAM, so it had a matched pair. The second was an old Dell laptop. I never got this upgrade to work, because the original 256M was soldered in, and I couldn't get a close enough match for stability. :(


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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to MRO on Thu Jul 13 09:11:00 2017
    that's a little hot but not bad. is that WHILE gaming?
    i have an i7 7700 and it's min 32.5 max 54.5c
    not gaming right now.

    crappy gforce 1050ti is 27c
    Its while gaming. And i run an amd 480 as my gpu.

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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to DENN GRAY on Fri Jul 14 09:45:00 2017
    Actually I just googled temps for the i7 its a little high.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Matthew Munson on Sat Jul 15 10:37:09 2017
    Re: Computer randomly turning
    By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Thu Jul 13 2017 09:11 am

    that's a little hot but not bad. is that WHILE gaming?
    i have an i7 7700 and it's min 32.5 max 54.5c
    not gaming right now.

    crappy gforce 1050ti is 27c
    Its while gaming. And i run an amd 480 as my gpu.



    that's not that hot if it's while gaming.
    200f is where i would be worried.
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