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    From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jul 13 02:17:00 2017
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    I have an original Wii as well, which is why this caught my eye...

    Bought it for the wife to do 'exercise stuff' years ago - she
    moved onto other things. I played it a bit. Wanted to use it
    for GameCube stuff, but couldn't get the Star Wars game I
    wanted to play to run on it.

    Bought her a Wii U later on, but we still have the Wii...

    I have an old original Wii that's been sitting dormant for a while - I mostly use it for Netflix in my kid's room. The Wii services have been shutting down over the years and most recently YouTube stopped working.

    I did some poking around and found a jailbreak for the Wii that
    includes an app browser. There's DOOM, Quake and DOSBox for Wii, and a handful of games. More interesting is that there are emulators for a
    ton of consoles and an app for running Wii games from images. Connect a USB drive, dump all of your wii games to images and you can run them without swapping disks. Download other platform games to the drive and
    you can play them, too.

    I want to try Quake with the nunchuk controller...

    Hmm... Can you point me to a link?



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jul 13 16:09:55 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jul 13 2017 02:17 am

    I have an original Wii as well, which is why this caught my eye...

    Bought it for the wife to do 'exercise stuff' years ago - she
    moved onto other things. I played it a bit. Wanted to use it
    for GameCube stuff, but couldn't get the Star Wars game I
    wanted to play to run on it.

    Bought her a Wii U later on, but we still have the Wii...

    Interesting to know who still has/uses a Wii. I bought a Wii, but mainly because Mega Man 9 came out and it was only being made for game consoles.. I chose a Wii because I thought the motion-sensing controllers & such games looked interesting - and I have enjoyed playing the Wii Sports tennis and bowling. I also bought New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and I think that's a pretty fun and entertaining game too. Seems like they never run out of creativity in developing their Mario games. And it's interesting that it's a side scroller when Mario 64 was 3D..

    I also like the virtual console on the Nintendo platforms. Being able to play old console games on the TV is fun - but of course, there are other ways to run emulated console games too..

    When I first got a Wii, I liked browsing the news on the Wii News channel. I was disappointed when Nintendo stopped offering that service.

    In all, I actually don't play the Wii very often..

    Nightfox

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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to NIGHTFOX on Sun Jul 16 02:19:00 2017
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    When I first got a Wii, I liked browsing the news on the Wii News
    channel. I was disappointed when Nintendo stopped offering that
    service.

    Maybe that could be offered as game on the Switch.

    In all, I actually don't play the Wii very often..

    I sold my Wii off, but my sister kept hers. I am hoping for Smash Brothers on the Switch soon.

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Nightfox on Mon Jul 17 17:04:34 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Nightfox to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jul 13 2017 04:09 pm

    Interesting to know who still has/uses a Wii. I bought a Wii, but mainly

    I still have a few Wii's, and they're all softmodded to run NES/SNES/SMS/Genesis roms. The emulators work great, some of the filters could be better (I like OpenEMU on Mac the best). Also added a hard drive and installed every single Wii/ISO game I have, so you can play with no disc. Link's Crossbow Training is one of the best hehe...

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Darkwing on Mon Jul 17 17:24:10 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Darkwing to Nightfox on Mon Jul 17 2017 05:04 pm

    I still have a few Wii's, and they're all softmodded to run NES/SNES/SMS/Genesis roms. The emulators work great, some of the filters could be better (I like OpenEMU on Mac the best). Also added a hard drive

    I might have to look into modding mine to run some emulators.. The last time I checked on Wii modding (years ago), I remember reading something saying it was difficult (near impossible?) to do with the latest Wii updates, since Nintendo was putting some anti-modding protections in it. I imagine that's probably changed by now..

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 09:40:45 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Nightfox to Darkwing on Mon Jul 17 2017 17:24:10

    I might have to look into modding mine to run some emulators.. The last time I checked on Wii modding (years ago), I remember reading something saying it was difficult (near impossible?) to do with the latest Wii updates, since Nintendo was putting some anti-modding protections in it. I imagine that's probably changed by now..

    Its been a while, but the mod pack I have requires a certian version of the software and you can no longer update after that. I do believe you are correct with that one. I believe anything over 4.4u is a no go with the mod I'm using, and I swear I cannot even remember the name of it.. it was a lot of software modification, but was'nt too bad.


    youtube now has cut support for wii, but I still use it for netflix and hulu, and watch dvds if I like, there are plenty of other media features out there also. but the games... thats what I mainly did it for is the games.. it was like being 10 again and having a nintendo, except I had every game that ever existed. it all wore off pretty quick.. I have used the emulators in a while..


    have'nt even fired up the homebrew channel in a while either to see if they are any new utilities. I'd say one could just about build a copy of sbbs on the wii. if they really wanted to.. I mean afaik everything is there to do it.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 09:32:54 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 2017 09:40 am

    Its been a while, but the mod pack I have requires a certian version of the software and you can no longer update after that. I do believe you are correct with that one. I believe anything over 4.4u is a no go with the mod I'm using, and I swear I cannot even remember the name of it.. it was a lot of software modification, but was'nt too bad.

    I wonder if you can downgrade the Wii to an earlier firmware..

    youtube now has cut support for wii, but I still use it for netflix and hulu, and watch dvds if I like, there are plenty of other media features out there also. but the games... thats what I mainly did it for is the games.. it was like being 10 again and having a nintendo, except I had every game that ever existed. it all wore off pretty quick.. I have used the emulators in a while..

    I have other ways of running emulators, which is why I haven't modded my Wii.. I'm not sure if it's something I really want enough to do or not.

    Also I'm a little bummed that services have been dropping support for the Wii, although I totally understand why. I like the Wii - although honestly I never really have used the Wii very much.. Just occsaionally.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 14:14:56 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 2017 09:32:54

    remember the name of it.. it was a lot of software modification, but
    was'nt too bad.

    I wonder if you can downgrade the Wii to an earlier firmware..

    I really don't think you could "Officialy" otherwise I have'nt looked.

    features out there also. but the games... thats what I mainly did it
    for is the games.. it was like being 10 again and having a nintendo,
    except I had every game that ever existed. it all wore off pretty
    quick.. I have used the emulators in a while..

    I have other ways of running emulators, which is why I haven't modded my Wii.. I'm not sure if it's something I really want enough to do or not.

    But it's just so much fund running sega/snes/nes/gamecube and anything else off one console..

    Also I'm a little bummed that services have been dropping support for the Wii, although I totally understand why. I like the Wii - although honestly I never really have used the Wii very much.. Just occsaionally.

    I'm very bummed.. I don't use the wii much anymore for gaming.. but it is used EVERYDAY. the hardware is solid, it has never given issues.. and it really sucks that youtube dropped support because I loved streaming stuff from my phone to my tv.. there still may be ways around that though.

    I never really caught on to many of the Wii games.. I loved all the marios, and thats about it.. the WII would have been a great money maker if Nintendo finds whoever keeps shoving their thumbs up their bums and gets rid of them.. the Hardware is just amazing.. even in todays standards.. but the games.. well sucked..

    I enjoyed playing gamecube games on it better, they seemed to perform better emulated on the wii than the original gamecube.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 14:27:17 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 2017 14:14:56

    I wonder if you can downgrade the Wii to an earlier firmware..

    I really don't think you could "Officialy" otherwise I have'nt looked.

    but these days, a used wii can be had for about 15 dollars at the pawn shop.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 12:48:14 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 2017 02:14 pm

    I have other ways of running emulators, which is why I haven't
    modded my Wii.. I'm not sure if it's something I really want enough
    to do or not.

    But it's just so much fund running sega/snes/nes/gamecube and anything else off one console..

    I also have a GCW Zero, an open-source handheld system that can run emulators (as well as games native to the GCW Zero that people have made): http://www.gcw-zero.com
    I think that's pretty fun.. It's a handheld game system that can run all those old games for NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. if you want to.

    Some of the emulators for PCs had some interesting features though. I saw a NES emulator that allowed multiplayer over the internet.

    I'm very bummed.. I don't use the wii much anymore for gaming.. but it is used EVERYDAY. the hardware is solid, it has never given issues.. and it really sucks that youtube dropped support because I loved streaming stuff from my phone to my tv.. there still may be ways around that though.

    With a recent TV and a recent Android phone, I've found that you can cast your Android screen to your TV (done over wi-fi, I think), so anything you do on your phone (YouTube, etc.) will show up on your TV.

    I never really caught on to many of the Wii games.. I loved all the marios, and thats about it.. the WII would have been a great money maker if Nintendo finds whoever keeps shoving their thumbs up their bums and gets rid of them.. the Hardware is just amazing.. even in todays standards.. but the games.. well sucked..

    It seems to me that the Wii probably has been a great money maker for Nintendo. The Wii had a great run - I think the Wii came out in 2006, and it seemed popular up until it was replaced by the Wii U.

    I enjoyed playing gamecube games on it better, they seemed to perform better emulated on the wii than the original gamecube.

    I'm not sure if they even had to use emulation for GameCube games - I seem to remember hearing that the actual hardware was very similar (same type of processor, etc.), just that the Wii was faster.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 12:52:45 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 2017 02:27 pm

    but these days, a used wii can be had for about 15 dollars at the pawn shop.

    That's pretty good.. But I imagine you'd just get the Wii & power supply; not sure if you'd get any controllers, manual, or original included game discs etc. from a pawn shop, or even buying used from a game store. But $15 is still a fairly good deal. You can find accessories & games used cheap too.

    I find it frustrating though, that used game systems & games lack some of the things that are nice to have.. Used video games rarely have the instruction manual with them, which makes me wonder if everyone just throws out the instructions? Even if a game is fairly easy to figure out, I think it's cool to have the manual to look at. Many used video games don't even have the protective cover that they usually come in.. GameStop usually provides their own cover/case for used video games that don't have the original case/cover.

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 14:43:02 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed Jul 19 2017 02:14 pm

    I enjoyed playing gamecube games on it better, they seemed to perform better emulated on the wii than the original gamecube.

    The Wii didn't run Gamecube games via emulation so much as it basically contained Gamecube hardware already. It's similar to how the DS basically contained a GBA, and the 7800 basically contained a 2600 for backwards compatibility (it's also why later Wiis can't run GC games - they started skimping on the extra hardware to save costs.)

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Nightfox on Sun Jul 23 12:46:41 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Nightfox to Darkwing on Mon Jul 17 2017 05:24 pm

    I might have to look into modding mine to run some emulators.. The last time I checked on Wii modding (years ago), I remember reading something saying it was difficult (near impossible?) to do with the latest Wii updates, since Nintendo was putting some anti-modding protections in it. I imagine that's probably changed by now..

    I tried with the latest (4.3? 4.4?) version and it still worked. Here's the guide I used, btw:

    https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-softmod-a-wii-and-play-backup-wii-gamecube-a nd-wiiware-games.360687/

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  • From Darkwing@VERT to Nightfox on Sun Jul 23 13:00:37 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 2017 12:48 pm

    It seems to me that the Wii probably has been a great money maker for Nintendo. The Wii had a great run - I think the Wii came out in 2006, and it seemed popular up until it was replaced by the Wii U.

    The Wii was a smash hit with casual gamers, and if you look at the timeline you will notice that was immediately before mobile gaming blew up. The Wii U was hard to make heads or tails of, from the casual crowd, so they stuck with their freemium mobile games and never looked back. I think Nintendo believed the Wii U would be a slam dunk like the Wii, but not even close.

    Nowadays, I think Nintendo has gone insane. They totally could have sold a billion more NES Classics at 2x the price. But they decided they were done selling them :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Darkwing on Sun Jul 23 18:12:00 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Darkwing to Nightfox on Sun Jul 23 2017 01:00 pm

    Nowadays, I think Nintendo has gone insane. They totally could have sold
    a billion more NES Classics at 2x the price. But they decided they were done selling them :)

    Yeah, I'm not sure why they did that.. Perhaps some marketing gimmick or something, but I'd think they'd want to sell them as long as there is demand for them. I'm wondering if they'll do the same thing with the SNES Classic now. I don't really like that there's a fixed set of games for them anyway.. If there was a way to buy more games for them (like the Virtual Console on the Wii, etc.), I think they'd be a lot better.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu Jul 27 19:22:49 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 2017 12:52:45

    but these days, a used wii can be had for about 15 dollars at the
    pawn shop.

    That's pretty good.. But I imagine you'd just get the Wii & power supply; not sure if you'd get any controllers, manual, or original included game discs etc. from a pawn shop, or even buying used from a game store. But $15 is still a fairly good deal. You can find accessories & games used cheap too.

    Yeah, that's pretty much right.. even if the person pawning the system included some extras with them, most of the time they are stripped and sold seperatly.

    I find it frustrating though, that used game systems & games lack some of the things that are nice to have.. Used video games rarely have the instruction manual with them, which makes me wonder if everyone just throws out the instructions? Even if a game is fairly easy to figure out, I think it's cool to have the manual to look at. Many used video games don't even have the protective cover that they usually come in.. GameStop usually provides their own cover/case for used video games that don't have the original case/cover.

    I agree fully. whenever I do want to invest in a system or games/accessories most of the time I will buy it new. Of course for the manuals and not having to worry about scratches on cd's etc. but for the simple honor of opening the box and smelling that new hardware smell that comes with it. It's like Christmas all over again.

    For stuff I like to hack around with, I don't mind buying used. buy for something I really want to invest in and keep a while, I most definatly for the most part, buy new.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Deepthaw on Thu Jul 27 19:26:29 2017
    Re: Wii repurpose
    By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Wed Jul 19 2017 14:43:02

    I enjoyed playing gamecube games on it better, they seemed to
    perform better emulated on the wii than the original gamecube.

    The Wii didn't run Gamecube games via emulation so much as it basically contained Gamecube hardware already. It's similar to how the DS basically contained a GBA, and the 7800 basically contained a 2600 for backwards compatibility (it's also why later Wiis can't run GC games - they started skimping on the extra hardware to save costs.)

    I really never thought of it like that because I never played any GC games until after the softmod. but yeah.. it seems emulation would be much worse than what my wii provides for gameplay. very smooth and seemless.

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