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  • Warez BBS?

    From Phoenix@VERT/TOXIC to All on Sun Nov 1 21:59:02 2015
    Hi all,

    Are there any Warez bbs system about ?

    Phoenix

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Toxic Laboratory BBS, home of BBSlink.net - Birmingham, UK - toxicbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Phoenix on Sun Nov 1 16:45:49 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Phoenix to All on Sun Nov 01 2015 21:59:02

    Are there any Warez bbs system about ?

    If there are warez BBSes available, I'm not sure if people would be generally willing to advertise them freely (or at least advertize that they have warez) in a networked message area.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From metalhead@VERT/CYBERIA to Phoenix on Sun Nov 1 20:47:00 2015
    Are there any Warez bbs system about ?


    Yea sure! Compufuck.com

    But do you know of any good FBI or other police boards? I'd like to call them!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.11 A3 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From spacesst@VERT/SPACESST to Phoenix on Sun Nov 1 23:57:04 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Phoenix to All on Sun Nov 01 2015 21:59:02

    Hi all,

    Are there any Warez bbs system about ?

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not Build for that , better use Torrent

    ... Rolaids How do you spell relief? R-O-L-A-I-D-S

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    ■ Synchronet ■ SpaceSST BBS
  • From Phoenix@VERT/TOXIC to spacesst on Mon Nov 2 14:28:41 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Phoenix to All on Sun Nov 01 2015 21:59:02

    Hi all,

    Are there any Warez bbs system about ?

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not Build for that , better use Torrent

    ... Rolaids How do you spell relief? R-O-L-A-I-D-S

    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ SpaceSST BBS

    I understand they they would not advertise I was hoping for a pm, I was sure that the FTP part of the bbs was able to handle more than 1Gb

    Phoenix

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Toxic Laboratory BBS, home of BBSlink.net - Birmingham, UK - toxicbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to spacesst on Mon Nov 2 07:37:34 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: spacesst to Phoenix on Sun Nov 01 2015 23:57:04

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not Build for that , better use Torrent

    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Nightfox on Mon Nov 2 08:55:31 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:37:34

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not
    Build for that , better use Torrent
    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    My first thoughts when I saw that were that he was talking about the 4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in. Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    -D/K

    ---
    Borg Burgers: We do it our way; your way is irrelevant.
    ■ Synchronet ■ Tinfoil Tetrahedron BBS telnet://tinfoil.synchro.net
  • From Kitster@VERT/PPALACE to spacesst on Mon Nov 2 13:30:44 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: spacesst to Phoenix on Sun Nov 01 2015 11:57 pm

    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Phoenix to All on Sun Nov 01 2015 21:59:02

    Hi all,

    Are there any Warez bbs system about ?

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not Build for that , better use Torrent

    ... Rolaids How do you spell relief? R-O-L-A-I-D-S


    Funny... What a wide open question... Prolly trolling for PC warez or maybe console stuff..

    Lates - > Kitster < -

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    ■ Synchronet ■ PROPYLENE_PALACE @ telnet://propylenepalace.com
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Phoenix on Mon Nov 2 16:25:24 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Phoenix to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 02:28 pm


    I understand they they would not advertise I was hoping for a pm, I was sure that the FTP part of the bbs was able to handle more than 1Gb


    just stick with torrent sites or newsgroups
    ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From metalhead@VERT/CYBERIA to Nightfox on Mon Nov 2 17:59:00 2015
    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS
    be able to handle that many files?

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons of
    movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately
    tie up the nodes too.

    What would be the solution to that type of BBS disorder? Maybe run the BBS on
    a VM? Or just get a kick ass processor? Would the VM be more of a security concern though, for those types of files?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.11 A3 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Khelair on Mon Nov 2 16:20:53 2015
    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not
    Build for that , better use Torrent

    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    My first thoughts when I saw that were that he was talking about the 4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in. Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    Ah, I didn't know about that limitation..

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to metalhead on Mon Nov 2 16:23:33 2015
    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons of movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately tie up the nodes too.

    What would be the solution to that type of BBS disorder? Maybe run the BBS on
    a VM? Or just get a kick ass processor? Would the VM be more of a security concern though, for those types of files?

    Yeah, I can see what you mean about bandwidth. Many ISPs don't offer much of an upload speed, so people wouldn't be able to download very fast.. I don't think that really requires a kick-ass processor though. File transfers are mainly I/O and don't use many CPU cycles.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Khelair on Mon Nov 2 17:14:46 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Khelair to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 08:55 am

    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:37:34

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not
    Build for that , better use Torrent
    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    My first thoughts when I saw that were that he was talking about the 4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in. Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    That limitation (4GB total single file size) applies to ZMODEM for sure. I don't think XMODEM and YMODEM (the protocols) have that limitation, but I don't know of any > 32-bit implementations of those protocols off-hand.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #48:
    Synchronet program was named 'sbbs' instead of 'sync' to avoid conflict w/Unix. Norco, CA WX: 64.6°F, 71.0% humidity, 7 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to metalhead on Mon Nov 2 19:26:41 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: metalhead to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 05:59 pm

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons of movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately tie up the nodes too.

    What would be the solution to that type of BBS disorder? Maybe run the BBS on a VM? Or just get a kick ass processor? Would the VM be more of a security concern though, for those types of files?



    i wonder if the protocols we use for transfering files can handle a bunch of users downloading shit at fast speeds. maybe not.
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    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mro on Mon Nov 2 17:42:56 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mro to metalhead on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:26 pm

    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: metalhead to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 05:59 pm

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons of movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately tie up the nodes too.

    What would be the solution to that type of BBS disorder? Maybe run the BBS on a VM? Or just get a kick ass processor? Would the VM be more of a security concern though, for those types of files?



    i wonder if the protocols we use for transfering files can handle a bunch of users downloading shit at fast speeds. maybe not.

    If you're referring to ZMODEM over Telent over TCP/IP, yes, it handles it no problem. Protocols like FTP and HTTP were designed from the beginning to run over TCP, so they have less overhead, however.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #8:
    The name "DOVE-Net" comes from: The Beast's DOmain / VErtrauen network.
    Norco, CA WX: 63.7°F, 74.0% humidity, 4 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From spacesst@VERT/SPACESST to Nightfox on Mon Nov 2 18:53:50 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:37:34

    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: spacesst to Phoenix on Sun Nov 01 2015 23:57:04

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not
    Build for that , better use Torrent

    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    Bss could handle this larges files , but the speed of the protocols
    are not optimize ,FTP,Torrent,etc .. are more Efficients

    ... Fisher-Price Play. Laugh. Grow

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    ■ Synchronet ■ SpaceSST BBS
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to spacesst on Mon Nov 2 19:00:42 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: spacesst to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 18:53:50

    Bss could handle this larges files , but the speed of the protocols
    are not optimize ,FTP,Torrent,etc .. are more Efficients

    True.. Many modern BBS packages support FTP though. Also, many ISPs offer a fairly slow upload rate, so someone downloading from a BBS might not get a good download speed from your BBS, particularly if multiple people are downloading at the same time.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Khelair on Tue Nov 3 09:56:06 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Khelair to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 08:55 am

    My first thoughts when I saw that were that he was talking about the 4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in. Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    X and Y-modem don't have that limit.

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    Mro is an idiot. Please ignore him, we keep hoping he'll go away.
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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Digital Man on Tue Nov 3 09:57:13 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Digital Man to Khelair on Mon Nov 02 2015 05:14 pm

    That limitation (4GB total single file size) applies to ZMODEM for sure. I don't think XMODEM and YMODEM (the protocols) have that limitation, but I don't know of any > 32-bit implementations of those protocols off-hand.

    I run a 64-bit version of sexyz on my BBS.

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    Mro is an idiot. Please ignore him, we keep hoping he'll go away.
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  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to spacesst on Tue Nov 3 09:57:52 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: spacesst to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 06:53 pm

    Bss could handle this larges files , but the speed of the protocols
    are not optimize ,FTP,Torrent,etc .. are more Efficients

    YModem-G and ZModem don't have the ACK performance handbrake.

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    Mro is an idiot. Please ignore him, we keep hoping he'll go away.
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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Tue Nov 3 09:44:14 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to Khelair on Mon Nov 02 2015 04:20 pm

    4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in.
    Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    Ah, I didn't know about that limitation..

    Wow, the mind boggles at keeping a modem connection nailed up long enough to download > 4GB!

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    ■ Synchronet ■ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Tue Nov 3 09:47:47 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to metalhead on Mon Nov 02 2015 04:23 pm

    of an upload speed, so people wouldn't be able to download very fast.. I don't think that really requires a kick-ass processor though. File transfers are mainly I/O and don't use many CPU cycles.


    I ran Eidos' FTP site on a Pentium-133 system with SCSI drives. When
    ION Storm, one of our developers came out with a Daikatana demo, the server handled 500 concurrent connections then fell over. I backed it down to 350 and it ran just fine.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Digital Man on Tue Nov 3 09:23:50 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Digital Man to Khelair on Mon Nov 02 2015 17:14:46

    That limitation (4GB total single file size) applies to ZMODEM for sure.
    I don't think XMODEM and YMODEM (the protocols) have that limitation,
    but I don't know of any > 32-bit implementations of those protocols off-hand.

    Ah, I wasn't aware of the difference w/X/Ymodem. Thank you for the clarification on that.

    -D/K

    ---
    Borg Burgers: We do it our way; your way is irrelevant.
    ■ Synchronet ■ Tinfoil Tetrahedron BBS telnet://tinfoil.synchro.net
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Nov 3 17:34:14 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:00 pm

    True.. Many modern BBS packages support FTP though. Also, many ISPs offer a fairly slow upload rate, so someone downloading from a BBS might not get
    a good download speed from your BBS, particularly if multiple people are downloading at the same time.



    i said it before that it would be cool if synchronet had torrent tech, and we all could network our file bases and everyone could help out with the download speeds.
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    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Deuce on Tue Nov 3 17:13:40 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Deuce to Digital Man on Tue Nov 03 2015 09:57 am

    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Digital Man to Khelair on Mon Nov 02 2015 05:14 pm

    That limitation (4GB total single file size) applies to ZMODEM for sure. I don't think XMODEM and YMODEM (the protocols) have that limitation, but I don't know of any > 32-bit implementations of those protocols off-hand.

    I run a 64-bit version of sexyz on my BBS.

    Yeah, I run a 64-bit version of sexyz on cvs.synchro.net too, but I didn't recall that we actually completed the >4GB file support in xmodem.c, but it appears we did (back in 2010/2011).

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #65:
    Synchronet was conceived of and mostly developed in southern California.
    Norco, CA WX: 54.0°F, 72.0% humidity, 11 mph SE wind, 0.01 inches rain/24hrs

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Dribble@VERT/LUNATIC to Mro on Wed Nov 4 01:00:23 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mro to metalhead on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:26 pm

    i wonder if the protocols we use for transfering files can handle a bunch of users downloading shit at fast speeds. maybe not.

    theres one protocol that would be able to handle it, if you could find a board that still supports the NTP protocol.

    |08% |15Dribble|08 [|15ACiDiC/nRk|08]|07

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Lunatic Fringe - lunatic.zapto.org
  • From Mike S@VERT/CS2BBS to Digital Man on Thu Nov 5 07:44:00 2015
    Digital Man wrote to Khelair <=-

    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Khelair to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 08:55 am

    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:37:34

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not
    Build for that , better use Torrent
    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    My first thoughts when I saw that were that he was talking about the 4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in. Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    That limitation (4GB total single file size) applies to ZMODEM for
    sure. I don't think XMODEM and YMODEM (the protocols) have that limitation, but I don't know of any > 32-bit implementations of those protocols off-hand.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #48:
    Synchronet program was named 'sbbs' instead of 'sync' to avoid conflict w/Unix. Norco, CA WX: 64.6°F, 71.0% humidity, 7 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    = Synchronet = Vertrauen = Home of Synchronet =
    telnet://vert.synchro.net

    Why not just use C-Kermit? I don't think C-Kermit has any file length limitations.

    -MikeS

    ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!"
    --- MultiMail/Darwin v0.49
    ■ Synchronet ■ CARRIER SYNC II BBS - carriersync2.thruhere.net PORT:6912
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mike S on Thu Nov 5 14:49:05 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mike S to Digital Man on Thu Nov 05 2015 07:44 am

    Digital Man wrote to Khelair <=-

    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Khelair to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 08:55 am

    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to spacesst on Mon Nov 02 2015 07:37:34

    What kind of Warez , bbs Can not get/handle 1 gig of files was not
    Build for that , better use Torrent
    Eh, a BBS can certainly handle that many files.. It all depends on how much storage the sysop sets up for the BBS machine. Why wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    My first thoughts when I saw that were that he was talking about the 4.xGB limit that the different Z/Y/X-modem protocols have built in. Unless I'm totally hallucinating about that limitation right now.

    That limitation (4GB total single file size) applies to ZMODEM for sure. I don't think XMODEM and YMODEM (the protocols) have that limitation, but I don't know of any > 32-bit implementations of those protocols off-hand.

    Why not just use C-Kermit?

    You could use C-Kermit or G-Kermit, or any Kermit protcol driver if you wish, but the client must also support Kermit and many do not support Kermit (including SyncTERM).

    I don't think C-Kermit has any file length limitations.

    I never learned the details of the Kermit protocol, so I don't know.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #19:
    Michael Swindell was directly responsible for Synchronet's commercial success. Norco, CA WX: 67.5°F, 19.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to metalhead on Thu Nov 12 11:10:32 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: metalhead to Nightfox on Mon Nov 02 2015 05:59 pm

    wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons of movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately tie up the nodes too.

    Most SysOps wouldn't allow leeching so you can toss that theory out the window.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Hustler on Thu Nov 12 08:36:33 2015
    wouldn't a BBS be able to handle that many files?

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons of movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately tie up the nodes too.

    Most SysOps wouldn't allow leeching so you can toss that theory out the window.

    Are there really enough people downloading files from BBSes these days to worry about leaching and to implement file ratios? Even back in the day, I remember there being only a few BBSes I called that enforced file ratios.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From metalhead@VERT/CYBERIA to Nightfox on Thu Nov 12 23:07:00 2015
    Are there really enough people downloading files from BBSes these days
    to worry about leaching and to implement file ratios? Even back in the

    If we had kick ass files, like hot torrents, people would probably leech them
    a lot, but I guess that would be fine for bandwidth. They should be able to leech away at the little torrent files.

    But regular files, like if we actually had the movies/music/etc up for download, then that would be a problem and the ratios would probably be helpful.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to metalhead on Fri Nov 13 06:00:37 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: metalhead to Nightfox on Thu Nov 12 2015 11:07 pm

    If we had kick ass files, like hot torrents, people would probably leech them a lot, but I guess that would be fine for bandwidth. They should be able to leech away at the little torrent files.

    Aww, if we put all of our file areas together and offered torrent seeds, that would rock. Most of the tfile stuff I have is tiny, though.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Denngray@VERT/OUTWEST to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Nov 13 13:33:40 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to metalhead on Fri Nov 13 2015 06:00 am

    Aww, if we put all of our file areas together and offered torrent seeds, that would rock. Most of the tfile stuff I have is tiny, though.

    I always avoid the warez BBS's, I remember in the late 80's early 90's several BBS's were shut down by the feds, one of the more notable BBS's was one called Rusty's
    Besides there are many torrent websites that have all that stuff, you take a serious chance of malware, virus's and software with embeded tracking.
    Just MHO that warez are not worth the risks.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ The Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com - 20 Nodes - 125 Gigs
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Nov 14 08:24:53 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to Hustler on Thu Nov 12 2015 08:36 am

    Are there really enough people downloading files from BBSes these days to worry about leaching and to implement file ratios? Even back in the day, I remember there being only a few BBSes I called that enforced file ratios.

    Nightfox


    i guess you never had frank linhares download all your shit for days on end. ---
    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to metalhead on Sat Nov 14 08:29:02 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: metalhead to Nightfox on Thu Nov 12 2015 11:07 pm

    Are there really enough people downloading files from BBSes these days to worry about leaching and to implement file ratios? Even back in
    the

    If we had kick ass files, like hot torrents, people would probably leech them a lot, but I guess that would be fine for bandwidth. They should be able to leech away at the little torrent files.

    But regular files, like if we actually had the movies/music/etc up for download, then that would be a problem and the ratios would probably be helpful.


    my experience over the years is that most(not all) bbs sysops are too stupid to be able to run a torrent client with an open port and download and seed files.

    you would really be surprised with all the stuff i've ran into with these people.

    some of the people i know that claim to be so very smart have downloaded 30+ gigs of something, cant find where it is, and proceed to delete the torrent 2 or more times and redownload 2 or more times.

    people are really dumber than you might think. they hide amongst us. i dont know how some of these people get dressed in the morning, put their shoes on and drive a car to work and function in society.
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    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Sat Nov 14 08:29:57 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Hustler to metalhead on Thu Nov 12 2015 11:10 am

    It's not the files, it's the bandwidth. If there was a BBS with tons
    of movies and music, I know I'd be leeching quite a bit! This would definately tie up the nodes too.

    Most SysOps wouldn't allow leeching so you can toss that theory out the window.



    what would tick me off if i had a guy come and just take files and leave. someone who doesnt contribute in any other way and doesnt care about the bbs or being a user on your bbs.
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    ■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Denngray on Sat Nov 14 08:33:29 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Denngray to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Nov 13 2015 01:33 pm

    I always avoid the warez BBS's, I remember in the late 80's early 90's

    you must have been that ONE guy that did that.

    by the feds, one of the more notable BBS's was
    one called Rusty's

    that was rusty & eddie's. things were different back then. there were no laws about some things. people shared software freely.
    rusty was a good guy and not a criminal. he was a successful businessman and gave back to his community more than most people. his obituary is on bbsnews.org

    Besides there are many torrent websites that have all that stuff, you take a serious chance of malware, virus's and software with embeded tracking.

    there are groups that release clean music/movies/tv/software. there are people who look out for eachother and post comments. i have not got a virus in the 15 years that i've been using torrent sites.

    Just MHO that warez are not worth the risks.

    that's your choice, but i would certainly try something before purchasing it. i have been screwed way too much to do that again.
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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Mro on Sat Nov 14 12:33:11 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mro to metalhead on Sat Nov 14 2015 08:29 am

    people are really dumber than you might think. they hide amongst us. i dont know how some of these people get dressed in the morning, put their shoes on and drive a car to work and function in society.

    Damn, you must have visited where I work, and noticed my customers. I said the same thing to one of my co-workers yesterday... LOL

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  • From Denngray@VERT/OUTWEST to Mro on Sat Nov 14 10:42:40 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mro to Denngray on Sat Nov 14 2015 08:33 am

    that was rusty & eddie's. things were different back then. there were no laws about some things. people shared software freely.

    Yes thats true Rusty is the name I remembered lol but yes Rusty and Eddies was it.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Sat Nov 14 14:45:02 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Nov 14 2015 08:24:53

    Are there really enough people downloading files from BBSes these days
    to worry about leaching and to implement file ratios? Even back in
    the day, I remember there being only a few BBSes I called that
    enforced file ratios.

    i guess you never had frank linhares download all your shit for days on end.

    No I haven't.. And even if so, that would be 1 node being used out of 16 nodes I have set up, so it's not like it would keep the board busy. And I don't have a ton of files either, so if someone wanted to download all my files, it wouldn't take that long anyway.

    Nightfox

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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Dribble on Sat Nov 14 16:27:42 2015
    theres one protocol that would be able to handle it, if you could find a board that still supports the NTP protocol.

    FTP and HTTP are relatively low overhead as far as per-file go... FTP less than HTTP, but HTTP is mostly the initial headers/cookies before transmit...
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  • From tracker1@VERT/TRNTEST to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Nov 14 18:00:40 2015
    Aww, if we put all of our file areas together and offered torrent seeds,
    that would rock. Most of the tfile stuff I have is tiny, though.

    It could be interesting, but honestly, better just to have private links to torrent/search sites that are active... maybe even reviews... directly linking to infringing torrents just opens you up to having to deal with DMCA notices and
    the headaches that goes with it.

    Keeping bbs scene files, and one-off stuff alive is a good idea for BBSes, but the stuff that is generally popular and available via torrent probably isn't worth the time.

    I never setup files on my BBS, and only had a few that were setup for the bbs website... and will likely stay the same today.
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  • From metalhead@VERT/CYBERIA to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Nov 14 22:18:00 2015
    Aww, if we put all of our file areas together and offered torrent seeds, that would rock. Most of the tfile stuff I have is tiny, though.

    I'd be glad to put torrents on my BBS, but I'm too scared. Anyone live in a part of the world where you can do this without legal anxiety? Step up! Your board will flourish.

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  • From metalhead@VERT/CYBERIA to Denngray on Sat Nov 14 22:21:00 2015
    Besides there are many torrent websites that have all that stuff, you

    The thing is, it would be amazing if a BBS would offer torrents. It would be the smoothest and the most private way to download torrents, almost any computer can handle the torrent traffic, people could do all kinds of fun BBS stuff while they wait for their movie to download.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Linux)
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to DesotoFireflite on Sat Nov 14 22:51:12 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: DesotoFireflite to Mro on Sat Nov 14 2015 12:33 pm

    people are really dumber than you might think. they hide amongst us. i dont know how some of these people get dressed in the morning, put their shoes on and drive a car to work and function in society.

    Damn, you must have visited where I work, and noticed my customers. I said the same thing to one of my co-workers yesterday... LOL



    they have so many types of intelligence tests, they need to make a test that quantifies how dumb the population is.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Denngray on Sat Nov 14 22:53:25 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Denngray to Mro on Sat Nov 14 2015 10:42 am

    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Mro to Denngray on Sat Nov 14 2015 08:33 am

    that was rusty & eddie's. things were different back then. there were
    no laws about some things. people shared software freely.

    Yes thats true Rusty is the name I remembered lol but yes Rusty and Eddies was it.


    http://i.imgur.com/fx5ZNnr.png


    here's a picture of the big bad pirates courtesy of boardwalk magazine.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Nov 14 22:54:27 2015
    Re: Warez BBS?
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Nov 14 2015 02:45 pm

    i guess you never had frank linhares download all your shit for days
    on end.

    No I haven't.. And even if so, that would be 1 node being used out of 16 nodes I have set up, so it's not like it would keep the board busy. And I don't have a ton of files either, so if someone wanted to download all my files, it wouldn't take that long anyway.


    yeah but it can tax the system and make doorgames perform slower for the real callers.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to tracker1 on Sat Nov 14 22:59:58 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: tracker1 to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Nov 14 2015 06:00 pm

    It could be interesting, but honestly, better just to have private links to torrent/search sites that are active... maybe even reviews... directly linking to infringing torrents just opens you up to having to deal with
    DMCA notices and
    the headaches that goes with it.


    i dont think they are even persuing people any more. it was costing them a fortune and it wasnt benefitial for anybody. i heard they were going to bypass going after people and go to the isps, but that may have fallen through as well.

    the best thing for the mpaa and riaa and TV networks is to get with the fucking times and make content avaliable in and easy and effective manner.
    I never setup files on my BBS, and only had a few that were setup for the bbs website... and will likely stay the same today.


    i have files on my system and it surprises me how many downloads i get.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to metalhead on Sat Nov 14 23:03:02 2015
    Re: Re: Warez BBS?
    By: metalhead to Denngray on Sat Nov 14 2015 10:21 pm

    Besides there are many torrent websites that have all that stuff, you

    The thing is, it would be amazing if a BBS would offer torrents. It would
    be the smoothest and the most private way to download torrents, almost any computer can handle the torrent traffic, people could do all kinds of fun BBS stuff while they wait for their movie to download.



    torrent tech is great for any type of downloading. there's just a stigma to it. i suggested we incorporate torrent tech into our file areas and have networked file bases, but everybody thought the idea was shit.


    meanwhile i get buttloads of downloads from bbstorrents each day.
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