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  • Hey, new person here

    From decrypt@VERT/ECBBS to All on Thu May 21 22:53:29 2015
    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things in the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I am 17, so I wonder what It was like then.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to decrypt on Thu May 21 22:42:47 2015
    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: decrypt to All on Thu May 21 2015 10:53 pm

    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things in the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I am 17, so I wonder what It was like then.

    It was different. Most people had no idea what I was talking about when I would
    mention chatting online or sending email. It felt very "underground" and as a BBS user, you would make amazing discoveries almost every day. The technical advancements were more dramatic (I remember the introduction of color text and graphics!).

    digital man

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to decrypt on Thu May 21 23:13:15 2015
    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: decrypt to All on Thu May 21 2015 22:53:29

    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things in the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I am 17, so I wonder what It was like then.
    Welcome to the party.
    In a nutshell, your local BBS used to be a lot like facebook is to people today. (Something you checked every day or two and used to keep track of community happenings and play the occasional game)
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  • From Mark Hofmann@VERT/TCP to Digital Man on Fri May 22 14:53:41 2015
    It was different. Most people had no idea what I was talking about when I would
    mention chatting online or sending email. It felt very "underground" and
    as a
    BBS user, you would make amazing discoveries almost every day. The technical advancements were more dramatic (I remember the introduction of color text and
    graphics!).

    I agree. Things were different. Not nearly as many people had home computers,
    let alone modems. BBSing back then was like prehistoric form of what the Internet is today.

    Having to wait until the middle of the night to have long distance calls to pickup network packets from ourside your local network. Those were the days. I
    don't miss the long distance aspect of it.

    Once I could get my BBS on the Internet, I jumped at the chance and it was done
    immediately. I then hubbed for my entire area, since I could pull network packets into the state for free.

    - Mark

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  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to decrypt on Fri Jun 12 16:04:47 2015
    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: decrypt to All on Thu May 21 2015 10:53 pm

    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I a 17, so I wonder what It was like then.

    Well, that main and perhaps the most major difference was that BBS's were (serial) dialin lines, so they were generally used by users of the same area code (local call). This has some good points as it created (many would argue) more of a sense of a community than the internet. Of course, there were some exceptions to this rule (i.e., Dovenet, Fidoenet, etc), however many of use acoided Fidnet because of the flame wars back then. People argued over the stupidest crap (on the network message areas) back then. The local message bases tended to be more civil. I was foruntate "back in the day" as my sister let me use her VAX/VMS dialup account at a local University. I found BITNet, ArpaNet, (baby internet), to be very exciting in the 80's. I knew that was going to be the future. It wasn't until around 1994 or so when it was opened up to the general public. Piracy was as rampant back then as it is today. There were boards devoted to specifically that, if that was your facnt. Also, text files were a common form of entertainment back in the day. They usually covered crazy conspitaracy theories. I'm sure everyone remembers the MJ12, aliens, and the government coverup. lol. Color text didn't come until ANSI made its headway, and that led to a lot of art work. There were groups devoted to ANSI art that did some incredible stuff. Later, a protocol called RIPScript tried to take off, but it was really too little too late. By that time, the web was being born. RIPScript allowed for you to "click" your way through a BBS and was pretty cool, but as said, too little and too late. I miss the local communities of BBS's the most. Sometimes people from a BBS in the same area code would meet together at a common location and get to know one another. It was a different time back then.

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  • From Binary Ninja@VERT/WCCASTLE to decrypt on Sun Jun 21 19:52:09 2015
    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: decrypt to All on Thu May 21 2015 10:53 pm

    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things in the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I am 17, so I wonder what It was like then.

    Getting back into it has been pretty easy so far. Hardest bit was figuring out something that can do a decent job displaying old PC fonts, and ANSI encoding.

    [BN]

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  • From Talwyn@VERT/LIVEWIRE to decrypt on Mon Apr 11 17:12:14 2016
    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: decrypt to All on Thu May 21 2015 10:53 pm

    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things in the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I am 17, so I wonder what It was like then.

    Will,

    I know this is some "Back in the day" talk but my BBS went online in 1983 using a 300 baud modem (which was insanely slow).

    Most people didn't know what a BBS was until the netmail feature of my BBS was able to connect with a person's PC that was in the press during the first Gulf War. We were able to send messages to soldiers via BBS. This made the news and caused an influx of callers to all the local BBS's.

    Before there was internet e-mail there was netmail where you would write a message and it would be passed along the chain of computers via dialup until it got to it's destination. Sometimes it wasn't any more efficient than snail mail at the post office... sometimes it was the next day. As more and more BBS's connectd in the net and the echos/netmail moved faster it became usually an overnight solution.

    In the case of the first gulf war families could send their messages and volunteers from the press would transcribe the answers from the soldiers. Either way the messages got to and fro faster than snail to the gulf.

    Allen

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Talwyn on Tue Apr 12 10:55:19 2016
    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Talwyn to decrypt on Mon Apr 11 2016 05:12 pm

    Most people didn't know what a BBS was until the netmail feature of my BBS was able to connect with a person's PC that was in the press during the first Gulf War. We were able to send messages to soldiers via BBS. This made the news and caused an influx of callers to all the local BBS's.

    GWI was a testing ground for BBSes as an information medium. Mainstream media under-reported protests in San Francisco, and we started using networked BBSes as a way of spreading information about protests and independent, unbiased reports.

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  • From Bcw142@VERT/OUTWEST to Talwyn on Wed Apr 13 11:40:00 2016
    Talwyn wrote to decrypt <=-

    Re: Hey, new person here
    By: decrypt to All on Thu May 21 2015 10:53 pm

    Hi, my name is Will, but you can call me decrypt or d3crypt. How are things in the bbs scene these days? I never lived during the 80s or 90s being that I am 17, so I wonder what It was like then.

    Will,

    I know this is some "Back in the day" talk but my BBS went online in
    1983 using a 300 baud modem (which was insanely slow).
    <SNIP>
    Before there was internet e-mail there was netmail where you would
    write a message and it would be passed along the chain of computers via
    <SNIP>
    Allen
    Ahh, the days of UUCP ;) I used Waffle back then.


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  • From Talwyn@VERT/LIVEWIRE to Bcw142 on Wed Apr 13 23:47:09 2016

    Ahh, the days of UUCP ;) I used Waffle back then.

    UUCP and Fidonet ... we used fidonet to message the soldiers in the Gulf.

    Allen

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Talwyn on Thu Apr 14 14:29:53 2016
    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Talwyn to Bcw142 on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:47 pm

    UUCP and Fidonet ... we used fidonet to message the soldiers in the Gulf.

    I wish I remember my old bang path email address. :)_

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  • From Spacesst@VERT/SPACESST to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Apr 14 17:51:49 2016
    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Talwyn on Thu Apr 14 2016 14:29:53

    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Talwyn to Bcw142 on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:47 pm

    UUCP and Fidonet ... we used fidonet to message the soldiers in the
    Gulf.

    I wish I remember my old bang path email address. :)_

    uucp still exist , wish i can put on bbs Windows computer

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  • From Alprunty@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Apr 14 16:26:24 2016
    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Talwyn on Thu Apr 14 2016 02:29 pm

    I wish I remember my old bang path email address. :)_

    You are dating us Poindexter... remember DECNET and all the damned double colons.

    Sheesh... let's talk about something younger... did you hear the latest about lady gaga <lol>.

    Allen

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Apr 15 18:04:00 2016
    Poindexter Fortran wrote to Talwyn <=-

    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Talwyn to Bcw142 on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:47 pm

    UUCP and Fidonet ... we used fidonet to message the soldiers in the Gulf.

    I wish I remember my old bang path email address. :)_

    I never had a bang path address. Even when I ran UUCP, I had a FQDN, my ISP was my MX for my domain, and they were my smart host.


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Spacesst on Fri Apr 15 07:52:28 2016
    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Spacesst to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Apr 14 2016 05:51 pm

    uucp still exist , wish i can put on bbs Windows computer

    Waffle should run on Windows -- it came with a UUCP stack, if I remember correctly.

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  • From Bcw142@VERT/OUTWEST to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Apr 15 17:03:00 2016
    Poindexter Fortran wrote to Talwyn <=-

    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Talwyn to Bcw142 on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:47 pm

    UUCP and Fidonet ... we used fidonet to message the soldiers in the Gulf.

    I wish I remember my old bang path email address. :)_
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    I don't remember even one of them. I do remember using them to send messages via Japan to see how long they'd take at DEC. First one I had was UNH back in 1977. Had quite a few since, but the only one I really used was the DEC one
    at CSS in Hudson NH. I could likely find the one I used for Waffle in the 1990's, but off the top of my head I don't even remember the ISP name. I wonder if there's a way to force a route via email now? Just so I could see how long it takes like we did in the 1980's ;) If we bounced it through enough servers it could take weeks ;P



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  • From Bcw142@VERT/OUTWEST to Spacesst on Fri Apr 15 17:37:00 2016
    Spacesst wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Talwyn on Thu Apr 14 2016 14:29:53

    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Talwyn to Bcw142 on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:47 pm

    UUCP and Fidonet ... we used fidonet to message the soldiers in the
    Gulf.

    I wish I remember my old bang path email address. :)_

    uucp still exist , wish i can put on bbs Windows computer
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    UUCP exists:
    bcw@leno:~$ aptitude search UUCP
    p uucp - Unix to Unix Copy Program

    p uucp:i386 - Unix to Unix Copy Program

    p uucp-lmtp - LMTP to UUCP gateway

    p uucpsend - Alternative Frontend for UUCP Batching wit
    p uucpsend:i386 - Alternative Frontend for UUCP Batching wit

    But everything else has made it obsolete. Netmail took over since the connections are faster now, even the 56k was fast enough. I send/receive HD videos these days via scp/rsync let alone email. Not sure if anything or anyone still uses uucp even though we can. I remember uuencode/uudecode and deepthought was one of the DEC machines. Tonto and silver were machines at AT&T when I was there, silver was a 3B2 and I have one in my basement. Only ran it a few times, it really heats up the basement ;) UUCP's time was just ending back when I got that (late 1990's). I remember 16-30 users on silver,
    I used it for CAD/CAM mostly on an old Tektronix color terminal, to make
    quick connect boards (3M wiring system much like wirewrap) back in the 1980's. I worked on Metrobus one of the first lightwave phone projects for AT&T, I have a tee shirt somewhere ;P


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 16 16:58:28 2016
    Vk3jed wrote in a message to Poindexter Fortran:

    I never had a bang path address. Even when I ran UUCP, I had a FQDN,
    my ISP was my MX for my domain, and they were my smart host.

    I had one for my BBS back in the day. it was first.last!oix@north.net I ran software called "rauucp" back then (RA for Remote Access). It worked perfectly
    which shocked me. Even more shocking was I remember north.net was my connection. hahaha

    Shawn
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  • From Knight@VERT/PHUNC to Bcw142 on Fri Apr 22 10:30:26 2016
    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Bcw142 to Talwyn on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:40 am

    Ahh, the days of UUCP ;) I used Waffle back then.

    Good old UUCP and waffle! You sent a message, not knowing if there was a route defined, unless you knew the damn route it should take.

    Knight

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  • From Kenneth Udut@VERT/B4BBS to Knight on Sat Jul 16 19:12:00 2016
    Knight wrote to Bcw142 <=-

    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Bcw142 to Talwyn on Wed Apr 13 2016 11:40 am

    Ahh, the days of UUCP ;) I used Waffle back then.

    Good old UUCP and waffle! You sent a message, not knowing if there was
    a route defined, unless you knew the damn route it should take.

    Knight

    I ran a Waffle 1.64 back in the mid 90s.
    I think I called it "Rational Mystics BBS" or
    something. It was the best way I could get
    Usenet newsgroups and my own functional
    email address that didn't depend upon
    other people's servers, rules and such.

    My users was unhappy though: They wanted me
    to bring back FREE SPEECH (which was one of
    my most popular BBS' - the Free Speech software
    was great 'cause it was so anarchistic) or
    Pyroto Mountain.

    Last year, today in fact, I kept an ancient
    promise to a friend that "I'll start up
    Pyroto Mountain again someday", dated from
    1997... and I did it through DOSbox and stuff.

    He logged in, played it for a bit and couldn't
    be happier.

    Full circle. It was cool.

    Anyway, I digressed. Never one for on topic.

    -Kenneth Udut
    Naples, FL USA

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Kenneth Udut on Sun Jul 17 01:25:39 2016
    Re: Re: Hey, new person here
    By: Kenneth Udut to Knight on Sat Jul 16 2016 07:12 pm

    Last year, today in fact, I kept an ancient
    promise to a friend that "I'll start up
    Pyroto Mountain again someday", dated from
    1997... and I did it through DOSbox and stuff.

    I *loved* Pyroto Mountain!

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