• Re: DesertED Island

    From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sat Sep 12 21:02:00 2020
    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Wednesday 17.06.20 - 13:40, dennisk wrote to Moondog:

    To be honest, at this stage I would not be in a rush to
    get back to civilisation. It's quite maddening and some
    time on a desert island might do me good.

    That's the way I would look at it too.

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't think
    I would like it due the primarily comedic roles Hank was known
    for - and thinking that he couldn't pull off a dramatic role.
    But the film was pretty good.

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Ogg on Mon Sep 14 21:51:00 2020
    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't think
    I would like it due the primarily comedic roles Hank was known
    for - and thinking that he couldn't pull off a dramatic role.
    But the film was pretty good.

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    /h1
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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to hollowone on Mon Sep 14 19:17:00 2020
    Hello hollowone!

    ** On Monday 14.09.20 - 17:51, hollowone wrote to Ogg:

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't
    think I would like it due the primarily comedic roles
    Hank was known for - and thinking that he couldn't pull
    off a dramatic role. But the film was pretty good.

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself
    legit for dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast
    Away.

    I considered Forest Gump a comedic role. That character
    reminded me a lot about Andy Kaufman of the Taxi series and
    his solo stage act.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to hollowone on Mon Sep 14 19:51:53 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: hollowone to Ogg on Mon Sep 14 2020 09:51 pm

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't think
    I would like it due the primarily comedic roles Hank was known
    for - and thinking that he couldn't pull off a dramatic role.
    But the film was pretty good.

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    Tom Hanks had been in some fairly serious movies since around the early-mid 90s. I remember Philadelphia (from 1993) being a fairly serious movie. He has also been in Radio Flyer, Apollo 13, That Thing You Do (a semi-funny drama pseudo-documentary), The Green Mile, and others. I actually tend to think of him more as a drama actor than a comedy actor these days. He is one of my favorite actors.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Mon Sep 14 19:53:07 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Ogg to hollowone on Mon Sep 14 2020 07:17 pm

    I considered Forest Gump a comedic role. That character
    reminded me a lot about Andy Kaufman of the Taxi series and
    his solo stage act.

    It had elements of comedy, but to me it felt more like a period drama.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to hollowone on Mon Sep 14 21:58:00 2020
    hollowone wrote to Ogg <=-

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't think
    I would like it due the primarily comedic roles Hank was known
    for - and thinking that he couldn't pull off a dramatic role.
    But the film was pretty good.

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for
    dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    Saving Private Ryan.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Mon Sep 14 22:50:54 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Gamgee to hollowone on Mon Sep 14 2020 09:58 pm

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for
    dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    Saving Private Ryan.

    Shaving Ryan's Privates

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 01:14:00 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Mon Sep 14 2020 10:50 pm

    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Gamgee to hollowone on Mon Sep 14 2020 09:58 pm

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for
    dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    Saving Private Ryan.

    Shaving Ryan's Privates

    Nightfox

    I don't know how common it is, but most comedians can crush serious roles easily. when it goes the other way you see how hard it is to do comedy.

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Ogg on Wed Sep 16 14:05:00 2020
    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself
    legit for dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast
    Away.

    I considered Forest Gump a comedic role. That character
    reminded me a lot about Andy Kaufman of the Taxi series and
    his solo stage act.

    That's the mistake I did when I watched it as a teenager, but then you realize
    that even though you have some humoristically enjoyable moments in that movie the complete movie is a drama and the story is equally fun, sad and wise if you're keen to see it.

    Same with Truman Show, just because you had Jim Carrey there it does not mean it was a comedy.

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 14:09:00 2020
    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for dramatic roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    Tom Hanks had been in some fairly serious movies since around the early-mid 90s. I remember Philadelphia (from 1993) being a fairly
    serious movie. He has also been in Radio Flyer, Apollo 13, That Thing
    You Do (a semi-funny drama pseudo-documentary), The Green Mile, and others. I actually tend to think of him more as a drama actor than a comedy actor these days. He is one of my favorite actors.

    Indeed, add Saving Private Ryan from the late 90tie to the list.
    One more interesting gem from TH career comes from 80ties.
    Do you remember the movie that was trying to demonize Dungeons and Dragons game?Mazes and Monsters was the title, that's 1982 to recall.

    /h1

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Moondog on Wed Sep 16 14:22:00 2020
    I don't know how common it is, but most comedians can crush serious
    roles easily. when it goes the other way you see how hard it is to do comedy.

    Unfortunately most of the successful and popular comedians inside are suffering with depression and other dramatic problems. Some like Robin Williams to the extreme level, so I'm not suprise by the ability to act dramatic roles - part of the comedian's life is to go through drama every day.. with smile. Just like in the recent Joker movie.

    /h1


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to hollowone on Wed Sep 16 08:16:54 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: hollowone to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 2020 02:09 pm

    Indeed, add Saving Private Ryan from the late 90tie to the list.
    One more interesting gem from TH career comes from 80ties.
    Do you remember the movie that was trying to demonize Dungeons and Dragons game?Mazes and Monsters was the title, that's 1982 to recall.

    I'm not familiar with that one.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to hollowone on Wed Sep 16 17:01:24 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: hollowone to Moondog on Wed Sep 16 2020 02:22 pm

    I don't know how common it is, but most comedians can crush serious
    roles easily. when it goes the other way you see how hard it is to
    do comedy.

    Unfortunately most of the successful and popular comedians inside are suffering with depression and other dramatic problems. Some like Robin Williams to the extreme level, so I'm not suprise by the ability to act


    that's because they were all drug addicts. it fucks up your brain in many ways.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 17:02:00 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Nightfox to hollowone on Wed Sep 16 2020 08:16 am

    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: hollowone to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 2020 02:09 pm

    Indeed, add Saving Private Ryan from the late 90tie to the list.
    One more interesting gem from TH career comes from 80ties.
    Do you remember the movie that was trying to demonize Dungeons and
    Dragons game?Mazes and Monsters was the title, that's 1982 to
    recall.

    I'm not familiar with that one.


    oh god you gotta see that one. young tom hanks gets brought into d&d and he goes crazy thinking it's real

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to hollowone on Wed Sep 16 18:31:00 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: hollowone to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 2020 02:09 pm

    There are more films with Tom Hanks he proved himself legit for dramati roles. Forest Gump was even before Cast Away.

    Tom Hanks had been in some fairly serious movies since around the early-mid 90s. I remember Philadelphia (from 1993) being a fairly serious movie. He has also been in Radio Flyer, Apollo 13, That Thing You Do (a semi-funny drama pseudo-documentary), The Green Mile, and others. I actually tend to think of him more as a drama actor than a comedy actor these days. He is one of my favorite actors.

    Indeed, add Saving Private Ryan from the late 90tie to the list.
    One more interesting gem from TH career comes from 80ties.
    Do you remember the movie that was trying to demonize Dungeons and Dragons game?Mazes and Monsters was the title, that's 1982 to recall.

    /h1

    Also during that early period Tom Hanks appeared on an episode of Happy
    Days. He played a childhood rival of Fonzie, who spent his life learning karate to get even. Bosom Buddies and Bachelor Party are also early Hanks vuewing material.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 18:35:00 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Nightfox to hollowone on Wed Sep 16 2020 08:16 am

    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: hollowone to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 2020 02:09 pm

    Indeed, add Saving Private Ryan from the late 90tie to the list.
    One more interesting gem from TH career comes from 80ties.
    Do you remember the movie that was trying to demonize Dungeons and Drag game?Mazes and Monsters was the title, that's 1982 to recall.

    I'm not familiar with that one.

    Nightfox

    It was a made for TV movie, and it was about a college student who became so immersed in the game, he replaced reality with it and his friends had to
    go look for him when he disappeared in the steam tunnels under the college

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Wed Sep 16 19:18:07 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Moondog to hollowone on Wed Sep 16 2020 06:31 pm

    Also during that early period Tom Hanks appeared on an episode of Happy Days. He played a childhood rival of Fonzie, who spent his life learning karate to get even. Bosom Buddies and Bachelor Party are also early Hanks vuewing material.


    oh yeah i remember that happy days.

    you shouldnt be able to see bossum buddies because he bought the rights to bury it.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ogg on Wed Sep 16 18:11:07 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 12 2020 09:02 pm

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't think
    I would like it due the primarily comedic roles Hank was known
    for - and thinking that he couldn't pull off a dramatic role.
    But the film was pretty good.

    It's one of my favorite films. Not sure why, but it touches a nerve. I could watch it again, any time.

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Wed Sep 16 21:36:22 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Wed Sep 16 2020 06:35 pm

    It was a made for TV movie, and it was about a college student who became so immersed in the game, he replaced reality with it and his friends had to go look for him when he disappeared in the steam tunnels under the college

    That definitely sounds like an 80s B-movie, which might actually be fun to watch. Particularly since I remember my older brother plying D&D a lot with friends of his back then (I never got into it though).

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Wed Sep 16 21:45:54 2020
    Re: Re: DesertED Island
    By: Digital Man to Ogg on Wed Sep 16 2020 06:11 pm

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away. I didn't think
    I would like it due the primarily comedic roles Hank was known
    for - and thinking that he couldn't pull off a dramatic role.
    But the film was pretty good.

    It's one of my favorite films. Not sure why, but it touches a nerve. I could watch it again, any time.

    I thought Cast Away was a great movie. I think the combination of good directing (it was directed by Robert Zimeckis) and good actors helped a lot. I've noticed many Robert Zimeckis movies tend to be fairly good (he also directed the Back to the Future movies, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Forrest Gump, and others).

    Nightfox

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Digital Man on Sun Sep 20 21:26:00 2020
    Hello Digital!

    ** On Wednesday 16.09.20 - 21:11, digital.man wrote to Ogg:

    Anyone remember the Tom Hanks film, Cast Away... But the
    film was pretty good.

    It's one of my favorite films. Not sure why, but it
    touches a nerve. I could watch it again, any time.

    The Martian (2015) w/Matt Damon has a similar premise. I
    really enjoyed that one too. I enjoyed the realistic
    approaches to survival. But if I was in that situation (the
    sole individual on an uninhabital planet), I know that I would
    give up easily.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Mon Sep 21 19:33:00 2020
    On 09-20-20 21:26, Ogg wrote to Digital Man <=-

    The Martian (2015) w/Matt Damon has a similar premise. I
    really enjoyed that one too. I enjoyed the realistic
    approaches to survival. But if I was in that situation (the

    That was a good movie, they tried to make it as realistic as they could (for a piece of Hollywood entertainment).

    Others, like Gravity just got things wrong - Hollywood doesn't understand orbital mechanics (kinda like the chapter after rocket science ;) ). But it's simply not possible to fly from Hubble to ISS to a ficticious Chinese space station using suit thrusters!

    Similarly in Mission to Mars (around 1996-1997). I enjoyed most of that movie, but there was a sequence where the crew of a rescue ship had to transfer to the first ship that was already in orbit, because the rescue ship's engine exploded on ignition (which had issues too), but transferring from an inbound ship to one in a low circular orbit in EV suits, not gonna happen, there's several thousand mph of delta-V that needs to be shed, suit thrusters definitely can't do that - it's serious rocket territory.

    Interstellar was interesting, and they went to great lengths to be scientifically accurate with their depiction of the black hole. The CGI crew actually had to write new algorithms to cope with the extreme physics of black holes, and the result was so good that the scientists who helped have used the CGI to further their work! So, if you want to know what a black hole would actually look like up close, watch Interstellar. :)

    sole individual on an uninhabital planet), I know that I would
    give up easily.

    Yes, I'm not sure I'd be as resourceful, though sometimes I do surprise myself. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Mon Sep 21 06:59:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Ogg <=-

    Others, like Gravity just got things wrong - Hollywood doesn't
    understand orbital mechanics (kinda like the chapter after rocket
    science ;) ). But it's simply not possible to fly from Hubble to ISS
    to a ficticious Chinese space station using suit thrusters!

    I heard an interesting inteview with Tess Gerritsen. She wrote a
    space story, doing lots of research with NASA.

    She sold the film rights to New Line Cinema in 1999, who asked her to
    re-write the 3rd act into a space disaster climax, which is
    essentially the plot of Gravity.

    Alphonso Cuaron was on board to direct it for New Line.

    In 2008, New Line was bought out by Warner Brothers, and Alphonso
    Cuaron reportedly wrote a screenplay called Gravity. He denies ever
    reading her story.

    Her lawsuit was initially dismissed, but she's still fighting on.

    From listening to Tess Gerritsen, it sounded like she would have
    nailed the science part, she mentioned spending a couple of years
    working with NASA to get the orbital bits right.



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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 21:29:00 2020
    I heard an interesting inteview with Tess Gerritsen. She wrote a
    space story, doing lots of research with NASA.

    She sold the film rights to New Line Cinema in 1999, who asked her to
    re-write the 3rd act into a space disaster climax, which is
    essentially the plot of Gravity.

    Alphonso Cuaron was on board to direct it for New Line.

    In 2008, New Line was bought out by Warner Brothers, and Alphonso
    Cuaron reportedly wrote a screenplay called Gravity. He denies ever
    reading her story.

    Her lawsuit was initially dismissed, but she's still fighting on.

    From listening to Tess Gerritsen, it sounded like she would have
    nailed the science part, she mentioned spending a couple of years
    working with NASA to get the orbital bits right.


    Legal part of this story reminds me about 5th Element and Jodorofsky + Moebius with their original comic book (Incal) which's story was directly borrowed by the movie.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Sep 22 20:41:00 2020
    On 09-21-20 06:59, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I heard an interesting inteview with Tess Gerritsen. She wrote a
    space story, doing lots of research with NASA.

    That's a good place to start! :)

    From listening to Tess Gerritsen, it sounded like she would have
    nailed the science part, she mentioned spending a couple of years
    working with NASA to get the orbital bits right.

    You'd have been interesting to see how her story went. :)

    Orbital mechanics is interesting. Following the launch of amateur satellites (and then working them) is how I picked up a lot of it. Especially during the launch and commissioning of AO-40, where it was intended to use a rocket to move the satellite from its original GTO path to its intended high inclination orbit, which would have required a number of adjustments to the apogee and perigee, as well as a major plane change (over 60 degrees, IIRC), which would have used most of the fuel (plane changes are the most energetic orbital changes).

    Anyway, the rocket failed and exploded, turned out due to human error in pre launch. :(


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to hollowone on Tue Sep 22 06:59:00 2020
    hollowone wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Legal part of this story reminds me about 5th Element and Jodorofsky + Moebius with their original comic book (Incal) which's story was
    directly borrowed by the movie.

    The inconsistency of the second two Matrix films (and overall
    suckiness by comparison) lent credence to the claims (and the
    out-of-court settlement) that the Wachowskis had plagiarized The
    Matrix story.

    I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a Philip K. Dick story that
    was the original inspiration - it reads like one of his works.



    np: Devin Townsend, "Truth"


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