We have created a small tcp based uucp network, mostly with people
interested in ttrpgs. So most of the groups we get for news on it are
gaming related.
I currently am getting news from Eternal-September (which also has a
uucp interface) although I am also in talks with two more peers, but
uucp is less easy to set up than one might expect.

Would someone else be interested in peering?
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On 2024-06-14, <smaug@tilde.club> <smaug@tilde.club> wrote:

We have created a small tcp based uucp network, mostly with people
interested in ttrpgs. So most of the groups we get for news on it are
gaming related.

That's great.

I currently am getting news from Eternal-September (which also has a
uucp interface) although I am also in talks with two more peers, but
uucp is less easy to set up than one might expect.

If you don't mind can I peer, as long as I don't get sent news from ES
(as I'm already peering with quux.org, I really don't want to allow loops
to happen)

I guess it's harder to set up because UUCP can be more flexible?

Should I use [https://alexschroeder.ch/view/2024-06-15-uucp] as a guide?

Would someone else be interested in peering?

I would, I just have to set up UUCP on ~green.
I have a lot to learn but I'll try to peer based on what I've read (and
will have to reread).
If anybody has any recommendations, please share them.
~green runs Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

<rant>
Maybe I should also try to start peering with my own laptop via
UUCP/NNCP, and have some news daemon, but those that I've seen don't seem
to have official archlinux packages, and I think I want to try to make a bubblewrap jail and have it have alpine and inn in it maybe?
(it'd also break a bit of my naming convention because I have a spool for
each remote and this way I'd have to stop having a spool for ~green or duplicate the stored space for each new article (I'm using slrnpull rn)) </rant>
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jmjl <jmjl@tilde.green> wrote:

<rant>
Maybe I should also try to start peering with my own laptop via
UUCP/NNCP, and have some news daemon, but those that I've seen don't seem
to have official archlinux packages, and I think I want to try to make a bubblewrap jail and have it have alpine and inn in it maybe?
(it'd also break a bit of my naming convention because I have a spool for each remote and this way I'd have to stop having a spool for ~green or duplicate the stored space for each new article (I'm using slrnpull rn)) </rant>

What's the problem with archlinux? I've got uucp and inn2 running on my
arch laptop without problems. You're missing nncp then?
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On 2024-06-30, Laurens Kils-Huetten <lkh@cosmic.voyage> wrote:

jmjl <jmjl@tilde.green> wrote:

<rant>
Maybe I should also try to start peering with my own laptop via
UUCP/NNCP, and have some news daemon, but those that I've seen don't seem
to have official archlinux packages, and I think I want to try to make a
bubblewrap jail and have it have alpine and inn in it maybe?
(it'd also break a bit of my naming convention because I have a spool for
each remote and this way I'd have to stop having a spool for ~green or
duplicate the stored space for each new article (I'm using slrnpull rn))
</rant>

What's the problem with archlinux? I've got uucp and inn2 running on my
arch laptop without problems. You're missing nncp then?

There's no problem with archlinux, only my own choices of things I might
do, but I shouldn't have included that rant in the post.

<rant>
I wanted to try leafnode but didn't because it was in the AUR only and on SourceForge (which I don't think provides a git history) and I would have
liked to keep a copy of the source code around, and also because I'm a
lazy human so that was a rant.
I don't consider archlinux a problem, but rather me.

And anyways, if I do set any system to peer with my laptop, I'll most
likely be using inn2 anyways as inn2 provides better compatibility (or so
I think), and I already have configured one for ~green, so I know more or
less how it's done.
(Or maybe I could use https://gitlab.com/rslight-public/rocksolid-light,
but I'd probably prefer to use inn2)
And I'll try to jail it somehow, the same way I'd also jail NNCP and
UUCP, but I'm yet to figure that out.
</rant>

ArchLinux does offer extra/inn and extra/uucp but the nncp package seems
to only be available on the AUR, which I guess isn't a problem as I
verified the package build.
NNCP's repository is http://www.git.cypherpunks.ru/?p=nncp.git;a=summary
(git url: git://git.cypherpunks.ru/nncp.git)
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2024, jmjl wrote:

I wanted to try leafnode but didn't because it was in the AUR only
and on SourceForge (which I don't think provides a git history)

They do:

- WWW frontend URL: https://sourceforge.net/p/leafnode/git/
- Git clone URL (HTTPS): https://git.code.sf.net/p/leafnode/git
- Git clone URL (native) git://git.code.sf.net/p/leafnode/git

I would have liked to keep a copy of the source code around

Don't forget source tarball does count as a copy of the source code too:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/leafnode/files/leafnode/1.12.0/

(^ And to be honest, this is a standard fare for Unix program releases.
I rather consider requiring users to checkout from Git a very
self-centered cutting-corners behavior on the developer's side)

But if you prefer the Git checkout method anyway, see above.

Regards,
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On 2024-07-05, xwindows <xwindows@tilde.club> wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jul 2024, jmjl wrote:

They do:

- WWW frontend URL: https://sourceforge.net/p/leafnode/git/
- Git clone URL (HTTPS): https://git.code.sf.net/p/leafnode/git
- Git clone URL (native) git://git.code.sf.net/p/leafnode/git

I didn't know, I should've known (by checking the website)

I would have liked to keep a copy of the source code around

Don't forget source tarball does count as a copy of the source code too:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/leafnode/files/leafnode/1.12.0/

(^ And to be honest, this is a standard fare for Unix program releases.
I rather consider requiring users to checkout from Git a very
self-centered cutting-corners behavior on the developer's side)

If I make projects I'll try to have it create a tarball of every version
that would be offered on the web.

But if you prefer the Git checkout method anyway, see above.

Yeah it does, but having the history lets me see who wrote what part and
also create fixes if necessary, or see changes easily (yes I know I could
diff files whose checksum doesn't match).

I prefer the git checkout because it makes it easy for me to massively
fetch a little list of repositories.

Regards,
~xwindows

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