• GNUS - The Joy Of Topics - Part (n+1)

    From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Sat Dec 14 11:56:16 2024
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    Updating only a group, all groups from a server or a whole bundle of
    nested items (e.g. [nntp] only) seems easier in this view. At least
    I've not stumbled over it being mentioned for the default view while
    searching other stuff in the 400++ pages manual.

    ... and someday I'll get used to not use [TAB]!

    OmmmmmmPtimism ON!
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  • From keyboardan@keyboardan@tilde.club to tilde.meta on Sat Dec 14 13:13:10 2024
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    (...)

    ... and someday I'll get used to not use [TAB]!

    OmmmmmmPtimism ON!

    Aahahaah. Hope you do and that this also happens to me.

    Keep on going Pirate :-) .
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Sat Dec 14 15:15:18 2024
    keyboardan <keyboardan@tilde.club> wrote:

    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    (...)

    ... and someday I'll get used to not use [TAB]!

    OmmmmmmPtimism ON!

    Aahahaah. Hope you do and that this also happens to me.

    Keep on going Pirate :-) .

    There seems to be a correlation between hitting [TAB] and the level of
    caffeine in my body. o;-)

    Somewhere else here already is mentioned how to change the binding in
    this context to use an other key, but I think diverging a lot from the
    defaults may make life harder when talking with others about GNUS,
    because I'd always need to remember which keys and other modifications
    are my local ones and what to tell others to press or use instead in the
    same situation. That doesn't smell like a good alternative for me.
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  • From Patricia Ferreira@pferreira@example.com to tilde.meta on Sat Dec 14 21:10:28 2024
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    keyboardan <keyboardan@tilde.club> wrote:

    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    (...)

    ... and someday I'll get used to not use [TAB]!

    OmmmmmmPtimism ON!

    Aahahaah. Hope you do and that this also happens to me.

    Keep on going Pirate :-) .

    There seems to be a correlation between hitting [TAB] and the level of caffeine in my body. o;-)

    Of course---the more stressed you are, the more likely you're of
    repetitive rituals. (At least that's what happens to mice in
    laboratory. Stressed mice are more prone to repetitive behavior and
    less creativity.) What coffee does is primarily stress your system---it
    hits your adrenal system hard.

    Somewhere else here already is mentioned how to change the binding in
    this context to use an other key, but I think diverging a lot from the defaults may make life harder when talking with others about GNUS,

    It was probably me. But I agree with you---you should just keep from
    pressing TAB. A little thinking before pressing commands is kinda of
    out of fashion these days, given all the interactive nature of the computer---it tells ``wrong'' and you try again. But that stresses you
    much more too; it gets you tired from doing the same thing over and
    over. Typing slowly seems more energy efficient, for example. But, of
    course, if you're full of coffee, thinking before hitting the keyboard
    and working more slowly is not going to be pleasant at all. So what you
    need to do is find out what your life is like without coffee. If you
    feel is your life is not even worth living, then you can conclude easily
    that you're addicted and that you're wrong. The way out is definitely
    painful, but it's worth it.

    because I'd always need to remember which keys and other modifications
    are my local ones and what to tell others to press or use instead in
    the same situation. That doesn't smell like a good alternative for
    me.

    It doesn't.
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Sun Dec 15 01:44:08 2024
    Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> wrote:

    \o/

    Somewhere else here already is mentioned how to change the binding in
    this context to use an other key, but I think diverging a lot from
    the defaults may make life harder when talking with others about
    GNUS,

    It was probably me.

    ;-)

    But I agree with you---you should just keep from pressing TAB. A
    little thinking before pressing commands is kinda of out of fashion
    these days, given all the interactive nature of the computer---it
    tells ``wrong'' and you try again.

    GNUS is like a mine field disguised as keyboard. Hit something wrong
    and massive adrenaline shower may immediately hit you. Luckily UNDO can surprisingly often do what it was invented for. \o/

    But that stresses you much more too; it gets you tired from doing the
    same thing over and over. Typing slowly seems more energy efficient,
    for example. But, of course, if you're full of coffee, thinking
    before hitting the keyboard and working more slowly is not going to be pleasant at all. So what you need to do is find out what your life is
    like without coffee.

    I'm more focused with caffeine, but I don't even use it daily any more.
    That was different 3-2 decades ago, when my daily consume only could be
    counted in litres. My stomach forced me to get a break from coffee.
    Later in that coffee break time I noticed that caffeine pills help
    against my migraine, which was either not obvious or even absent as
    positive effect while drinking too much coffee. So I decided to use it
    mainly against migraine now, when the bio-weather smells like a grumpy
    migraine fairy could knock on my door soon.

    Fairies are the mood carrying virtual particles.

    If you feel is your life is not even worth living, then you can
    conclude easily that you're addicted and that you're wrong. The way
    out is definitely painful, but it's worth it.

    When switching form litres of coffee to zero from one day to the other,
    I got a massive migraine. That made me think that there may be a
    connection like already mentioned above.

    I gave up smoking only a few days after coffee. Additionally that all
    was within my 2nd burnout. It felt like the right time to do some
    things differently.

    Luckily I had absolutely no nicotine retraction problems, and apart from
    a 2 day migraine no longer ones from caffeine.
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Tue Mar 11 13:37:32 2025
    After some more TAB in topic-mode incidents which were coming in
    clusters today I'm nearer to redefining the related keys than dead
    Zuckerberg's rat penis transplant[T] is long!

    After playing some minutes with ...

    $ (define-key gnus-topic-mode-map (kbd "<tab>") 'gnus-topic-select-group)
    $ (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map (kbd "<backtab>") 'gnus-summary-exit)

    ... entered via eshell, I feel well prepared for it, but have not wired
    that into my dotfiles yet. Maybe I get better ideas for other keys or
    actions later. For now I just restarted GNUS and am cooling down.

    (∞)
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  • From keyboardan@keyboardan@tilde.club to tilde.meta on Mon Jun 29 11:54:53 2026
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    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    After some more TAB in topic-mode incidents which were coming in
    clusters today I'm nearer to redefining the related keys than dead Zuckerberg's rat penis transplant[T] is long!

    After playing some minutes with ...

    $ (define-key gnus-topic-mode-map (kbd "<tab>") 'gnus-topic-select-group)
    $ (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map (kbd "<backtab>") 'gnus-summary-exit)

    ... entered via eshell, I feel well prepared for it, but have not wired
    that into my dotfiles yet. Maybe I get better ideas for other keys or actions later. For now I just restarted GNUS and am cooling down.

    (=E2=88=9E)
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    s-first-rat-penis-transplant-announces-meta-will-stop-fact-checking/>


    Hi yeti!

    Regarding GNU Emacs keybindings redefinitions, I find these makes my GNU
    Emacs usage easier:

    (keymap-global-set "C-f" `forward-word)
    (keymap-global-set "C-b" `backward-word)
    (keymap-global-set "M-f" `forward-char)
    (keymap-global-set "M-b" `backward-char)

    (keymap-global-set "C-c e" `end-of-buffer)
    (keymap-global-set "C-c b" `beginning-of-buffer)
    (keymap-global-set "C-w" `backward-kill-word)
    (keymap-global-set "M-DEL" `kill-region)

    (keymap-global-set "C-_" `undo-only)
    (keymap-global-set "C-c ;" `comment-region)
    (keymap-global-set "M-%" `query-replace-regexp)


    Hope this helps somezero (someone),

    =2D-=20
    A little Consideration, a little Thought for Others, makes
    all the difference. ~ Alan Alexander Milne

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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Mon Jun 29 17:38:11 2026
    keyboardan <keyboardan@tilde.club> wrote:

    Hi yeti!

    Hi!

    Regarding GNU Emacs keybindings redefinitions, I find these makes my
    GNU Emacs usage easier:

    (keymap-global-set "C-f" `forward-word)
    (keymap-global-set "C-b" `backward-word)
    (keymap-global-set "M-f" `forward-char)
    (keymap-global-set "M-b" `backward-char)

    (keymap-global-set "C-c e" `end-of-buffer)
    (keymap-global-set "C-c b" `beginning-of-buffer)
    (keymap-global-set "C-w" `backward-kill-word)
    (keymap-global-set "M-DEL" `kill-region)

    (keymap-global-set "C-_" `undo-only)
    (keymap-global-set "C-c ;" `comment-region)
    (keymap-global-set "M-%" `query-replace-regexp)


    Hope this helps somezero (someone),

    I was more upset about harmful commands that already multiple times
    screwed up my subscribed groups list so much that I had to restore it
    from backups.

    The main culprit seems C-w which may kill lots of lines in you groups or
    topic view. Elsewhere this would close windows and when not 100% awake
    and thinking the neighbour window were in focus but Gnus has it, shit
    happens.

    IMO defining the structure of topics or manipulation the groups list
    should be even different modes than using them. That would avoit a lot
    of stress.
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  • From keyboardan@keyboardan@tilde.club to tilde.meta on Tue Jun 30 09:40:37 2026
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    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    keyboardan <keyboardan@tilde.club> wrote:

    Hi yeti!

    Hi!

    Regarding GNU Emacs keybindings redefinitions, I find these makes my
    GNU Emacs usage easier:

    (keymap-global-set "C-f" `forward-word)
    (keymap-global-set "C-b" `backward-word)
    (keymap-global-set "M-f" `forward-char)
    (keymap-global-set "M-b" `backward-char)

    (keymap-global-set "C-c e" `end-of-buffer)
    (keymap-global-set "C-c b" `beginning-of-buffer)
    (keymap-global-set "C-w" `backward-kill-word)
    (keymap-global-set "M-DEL" `kill-region)

    (keymap-global-set "C-_" `undo-only)
    (keymap-global-set "C-c ;" `comment-region)
    (keymap-global-set "M-%" `query-replace-regexp)


    Hope this helps somezero (someone),

    I was more upset about harmful commands that already multiple times
    screwed up my subscribed groups list so much that I had to restore it
    from backups.

    The main culprit seems C-w which may kill lots of lines in you groups or topic view. Elsewhere this would close windows and when not 100% awake
    and thinking the neighbour window were in focus but Gnus has it, shit happens.

    Each zero (one) has their own each way. GNU Emacs respects it, which
    says a lot about GNU Emacs :-) .

    IMO defining the structure of topics or manipulation the groups list
    should be even different modes than using them. That would avoit a lot
    of stress.

    =2D-=20
    A little Consideration, a little Thought for Others, makes
    all the difference. ~ Alan Alexander Milne

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