• Attachments, binaries, images (was: Usenet Vs. Reddit)

    From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Sun Mar 10 15:39:58 2024
    Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

    Let me show you some basic computer skills. (Lol.) When you find an interesting web page, print it to a file. (The kids these days also say ``save it to a PDF''.)

    Or first save it at archive.org, add a pointer to that copy wherever you
    refer to it and only then start thinking about converted variants.

    "The internet never forgets" has been proven wrong far too many times
    already.

    Then attach it here.

    \o/ Let there be (NNTP-)life! \o/

    (If the community won't punch you in the face for that.)

    I'm reading more than only Usenet and other news servers via GNUS and
    that includes mailing-lists and RSS/Atom stuff from code changes
    (GitHub, Fossil, CVS, ...) to full articles in HTML with images
    (Hackaday, Universetoday, ...).

    Usenet is just one set of rules atop NNTP and other news servers may
    have different rules. A place to experiment with distributing other
    markup over NNTP would be nice to have. Currently I limit my
    experiments needing more than UTF-8 to *.test groups.

    Seriously, I think every NNTP-based community should also count with a
    file bin and an image bin.

    Putting stuff into your (pubnix's) HTTP, archive.org-ing it and using
    those links often is ™good enough™. I used that for lots of images in forums that don't have own storage for pics and instead use strange
    storage services that may not even exist any more in some years.

    I don't think NNTP needs to display images like the web. I think it's perfectly fine---in fact preferable---to view images sort of
    separately from the reading.

    I'd prefer them inline and only be used where really necessary, but
    once that door is open, it will be abused.

    It's not clear to me the best way img and file bins with NNTP. I'm interested in hearing ideas.

    First we need exact rules what which NNTP provider and especially ~news
    allows. Then we can discuss why that's ™good enough™ or what we would
    want to be different.

    In Usenet you still find 7-bit extremists that would, if they could,
    allow nothing else. Here I've never been yelled at for UTF-8. Playing
    with braille-8 as pseudo-graphics somewhere else, someone complained
    that this may confuse users of braille readers. But I think avoiding
    that would disqualify ASCII art in posts too, so I did not completely
    stop playing with that. IMO it should be ok to use that wherever UTF-8
    is allowed.
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