• Any new protocols out there?

    From Jack@jacksonbenete@gmail.com to tilde.meta on Sat Jul 30 22:28:31 2022
    So, we have Gemini as an alternative for Gopher.

    What about NNTP? Any new ideas or protocols out there as an alternative?
    I've seen that recently (2018) there was a new RCF regarding NNTP, I
    think it's because people still use it a lot for binaries so they need
    to keep updating one thing or another when any issues or exploit show up.

    I wonder though, if NNTP isn't really very good for binaries, why they
    don't create something else?
    I guess that torrent isn't an alternative for this because of torrent traceability?

    Do you know about any new protocols out there, or maybe any renaiscence
    about any other technologies?

    The other day there was a question about BBS on the BBJ, and we have
    some BBS still going on like the Taiwan one.

    Share with us if you know any old or new school news/blogging technology (text-based/sane).
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  • From Cookie Monster@cookie@monst.er to tilde.meta on Tue Aug 2 04:05:41 2022
    On 7/30/22 20:28, Jack wrote:
    So, we have Gemini as an alternative for Gopher.

    What about NNTP? Any new ideas or protocols out there as an alternative?
    I've seen that recently (2018) there was a new RCF regarding NNTP, I
    think it's because people still use it a lot for binaries so they need
    to keep updating one thing or another when any issues or exploit show up.

    I wonder though, if NNTP isn't really very good for binaries, why they
    don't create something else?
    I guess that torrent isn't an alternative for this because of torrent traceability?

    Do you know about any new protocols out there, or maybe any renaiscence about any other technologies?

    The other day there was a question about BBS on the BBJ, and we have
    some BBS still going on like the Taiwan one.

    Share with us if you know any old or new school news/blogging technology (text-based/sane).

    Ask and you shall receive ...

    Bitmessage is a anonymous messaging and discussion group protocol.

    [link] : https://bitmessage.org

    Bitmessage has :
    public chans
    secret chans
    broadcasts
    distributed mailing lists
    private messaging

    Bitmessage is simpler than NNTP and has a simpler interface than
    newsreaders like Pan and Thunderbird. Every message is encrypted and
    only the persons knowing the chan (group) name can decrypt the message.
    You can set up a chan using a secret passphrase and no outsider will
    know that your chan, or its messages, even exist.

    Bitmessage suffers from the same problem as public usenet: paid
    government trolls spam the public chans with nonsense and filth to
    discourage normal people from using it at all. So just use secret chans. Problem solved.

    The broadcast feature allows the owner to post a message one time, then
    all users subscribed to the broadcast get that message, instead of
    sending a message to every subscriber.

    Bitmessage is client-oriented rather than sysop-oriented. All peers are
    nodes. All peers randomly route messages through a mixnet based on
    'dandelion' for bitcoin. Bitmessage also has configuration settings that
    allow connecting through Tor onion network.

    Once you run bitmessage, you can create a chan 'tilde' and chat there to
    test it out. DO NOT post to, or reply to, ANYTHING in chans 'general' or 'bitmessage' or 'hello'. The government trolls and bots will reply with nonsense. They really want to drive everyone away from Bitmessage.
    Actual Bitmessage users no longer use those chans.
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    Cookie Monster
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