So, I just wanted to say hi to you fine ~folks!

Recently I was musing about the usenet, and back in the day and all
that. It sucks to see like 99% of all textual usenet being deserted.

But then, actually just yesterday, I got around to read up on what all
of this tilde talk is about. I had no idea!

And only some 30 minutes later I discovered that there seems to be a
small neo-usenet growing among the tildes. How cool is that!

Now, let me ask this one question: what are the current ideas for this
cozy nntp network? Will the tilde.* hierarchy eventually show up on
non-tilde NNTP-servers?

Also, I don't have an account on any of the tildes, yet (unless sdf
would count ... sort of ... maybe similar spirit? no?)

Would you suggest to apply for an account on one of the tildes, in
order to take part in this network? or the irc?

I don't even know how to pick a tilde server to join.

So, cheers everyone!

Laurens from Hamburg (lkh on irc.tilde.chat)
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Laurens <lkh@localhost.localdomain> writes:

Also, I don't have an account on any of the tildes, yet (unless sdf
would count ... sort of ... maybe similar spirit? no?)

Smilar and different.

Would you suggest to apply for an account on one of the tildes, in
order to take part in this network? or the irc?

There is no law to only be active on one tilde. And I see no connection between using their IRC and needing to be member on one or more tildes.
I currently have 1 foot in 1 tilde (plus 2 more in SDF/SDFeu, but that's
not the point now) and maybe that even makes me a member of a minority.
Seems some even are collecting tilde accounts like others collect
stamps.

Some accounts on other tilde-services may require you to have an account
on a tilde.

I don't even know how to pick a tilde server to join.

https://tilde.wiki/wiki/Category:Known_Tildes may be a start?

So, cheers everyone!

Proooost!
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Laurens <lkh@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

Now, let me ask this one question: what are the current ideas for this
cozy nntp network? Will the tilde.* hierarchy eventually show up on non-tilde NNTP-servers?

Also, I don't have an account on any of the tildes, yet (unless sdf
would count ... sort of ... maybe similar spirit? no?)

I've noticed a little-used sdf.general group on some Usenet
servers, so I guess they have their own hierachy as well.

That might be a nice non-tilde server to peer with, but I think
many prefer to keep these groups off the wider Usenet.

Would you suggest to apply for an account on one of the tildes, in
order to take part in this network? or the irc?

I don't even know how to pick a tilde server to join.

Well only a small few actually run Tilde news servers themselves,
so you might want to pick one of them if this interests you
particularly. On the other hand I only have an account on one,
which doesn't offer the NNTP service, and am happy enough
connecting to tilde.club's open server.
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On 2022-03-13, The Free Thinker <freet@aussies.space> wrote:

Laurens <lkh@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

Now, let me ask this one question: what are the current ideas for this
cozy nntp network? Will the tilde.* hierarchy eventually show up on
non-tilde NNTP-servers?

That might be a nice non-tilde server to peer with, but I think
many prefer to keep these groups off the wider Usenet.

That's indeed the thought. We like out net news network and would
probably peer with non-tildes (quux has been in talks), but we don't
want to bridge the gap to the old spammy usenet.

I love that this place is finally getting used more. I check a few times
a week and there's always a handful of messages to read and respond to.
We had tried it a few years back and it stagnated. This second iteration
is doing much better, in part due to club having the open access.

Peering with other pubnix would be a logical next step in that growth.
Who knows, maybe even SDF would be interested at some point.
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On 2022-03-14, James Tomasino <tomasino@cosmic.voyage> wrote:

On 2022-03-13, The Free Thinker <freet@aussies.space> wrote:

Laurens <lkh@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

Now, let me ask this one question: what are the current ideas for this
cozy nntp network? Will the tilde.* hierarchy eventually show up on
non-tilde NNTP-servers?

That might be a nice non-tilde server to peer with, but I think
many prefer to keep these groups off the wider Usenet.

That's indeed the thought. We like out net news network and would
probably peer with non-tildes (quux has been in talks), but we don't
want to bridge the gap to the old spammy usenet.

quux checking in :-)

I have sort of been thinking about the fuzzy definition of "what does it mean to
be part of the Tildeverse?"

Right now, I don't really have the time or energy to hand out shell accounts to people. I am quite glad that there are many Tildes that do! But over at tildeverse.org, there are a lot of tilde-affiliated services and projects that I'm not sure are necessarily associated with one particular tilde instance at all.

I'm trying to do something similar at quux; that is, I'm providing:

- The quux.org public NNCP relay
https://www.complete.org/quux-org-nncp-public-relay/

- The quux.org Usenet peering (over NNTP and NNCP)
https://www.complete.org/quux-org-usenet-nntp-and-nncp-peer/

- Plus some assorted mirrors of websites and gopher sites.

- I have had thoughts of adding a public Syncthing relay as well.

Peering with other pubnix would be a logical next step in that growth.
Who knows, maybe even SDF would be interested at some point.

I am also a SDF member and would love to see that, but they are, shall we say, opaque at times. Sometimes things sail through easily, sometimes they just never get any responses. Hard to say.

- John
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