• Setting up a new tilde

    From John Goerzen@jgoerzen@complete.org to tilde.gopher on Thu Jun 30 04:38:39 2022
    Hi folks,

    I've been toying with the idea of setting up a tilde for awhile. I think I'm finally getting about there.

    Oddly, back in the day I ran what I always called a BBS: first with standard BBS
    software under OS/2, and then giving people essentially dialup shell access to a
    FreeBSD system, and eventually a Linux system running the WorldVU Atlantis BBS software, which was a thin menu atop Linux. All of those had Fidonet, and Usenet via UUCP once I could get it.

    Anyhow, I don't need to bore you all with the details, other than I'd like to make something of a cross between a BBS and a shell server, as I ran into occasionally in the early 90s: A Unix system, usually menu-driven, offering access to programs like pine, tin, and gopher.

    So.... some questions.

    Does anybody have good new user registration code that is shared somewhere?

    How does one go about getting listed on tildeverse.org?

    I already run some Tilde-relevant services (Usenet and NNCP). Would somebody be
    willing to peer with me with the tilde.* newsgroups? Could I get the NNCP service listed on tildeverse.org?

    If I were to make a Fidonet-NNTP gateway available for people, would there be interest in others carrying Fidonet? That is, you wouldn't have to run a Fidonet stack on your end; just peer with my NNTP server to get the gatewayed hierarchy and route mail to the gateway in a certain way.

    During the days that my BBS/shell server was running Unix, I used ifmail/ifcico to do exactly this. People read Fidonet groups using tin and exchanged Fidonet mail using pine. This software is still out there!

    - John
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  • From John Goerzen@jgoerzen@complete.org to tilde.gopher on Thu Jun 30 04:39:25 2022
    I meant to post this in tilde.meta but had an off-by-one error involving my arrow keys. My apologies.
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  • From James Tomasino@tomasino@cosmic.voyage to tilde.gopher on Sun Jul 3 21:58:52 2022
    On 2022-06-30, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
    Hi folks,

    I've been toying with the idea of setting up a tilde for awhile. I
    think I'm finally getting about there.

    Squeeeee!!!

    Does anybody have good new user registration code that is shared
    somewhere?

    I'll defer to ben here. I think he's got some robust stuff. Cosmic is
    sorta unique in how it's registration is done and I don't think you'll
    get much from my setup.

    How does one go about getting listed on tildeverse.org?

    Normally the process is: https://tilde.wiki/wiki/Tildeverse#Joining_the_tildeverse_as_a_member_tilde

    [ ] The server should have been online and stable for an extended period
    of time (usually a year at least)
    [x] The admin should have a good reputation within their community
    [x] The admin and server should express an interest in sharing
    or collaborating on services in the tildeverse network
    [ ] A channel representing the tilde on the shared
    tilde.chat IRC network
    [ ] The tilde server is in-line with the codes of
    conduct of the tildeverse

    I already run some Tilde-relevant services (Usenet and NNCP). Would
    somebody be willing to peer with me with the tilde.* newsgroups?
    Could I get the NNCP service listed on tildeverse.org?

    I am 100% willing to peer with you, and yes, we should definitely get
    NNCP listed. I keep wanting to do that and getting distracted by boring
    work stuff that's far less interesting.

    If I were to make a Fidonet-NNTP gateway available for people, would
    there be interest in others carrying Fidonet? That is, you wouldn't
    have to run a Fidonet stack on your end; just peer with my NNTP server
    to get the gatewayed hierarchy and route mail to the gateway in a
    certain way.

    Oh hells yes. Fidonet was my first glimpse of the "true internet"
    growing up. I'd be so excited to peer that too.
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  • From ben@ben@tilde.team to tilde.gopher on Thu Aug 11 16:31:28 2022
    On 7/3/2022 5:58 PM, James Tomasino wrote:
    On 2022-06-30, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
    Hi folks,

    I've been toying with the idea of setting up a tilde for awhile. I
    think I'm finally getting about there.

    Great! we would love to have you around!

    I'm sure you're already aware of what's involved, but this is a nice
    writeup:
    https://zine.tildeverse.org/issue-1.html#so-you-wanna-make-a-tilde

    Does anybody have good new user registration code that is shared
    somewhere?

    I'll defer to ben here. I think he's got some robust stuff. Cosmic is
    sorta unique in how it's registration is done and I don't think you'll
    get much from my setup.

    It's reasonably robust and filters out a good amount of potential spam: https://tildegit.org/team/site/src/branch/master/signup

    Signups are written to a /var/signups file in the format of 'makeuser' commands, which i will process with sh. To deny an account I just
    comment out that line in the file.

    https://tildegit.org/team/makeuser

    How does one go about getting listed on tildeverse.org?

    Normally the process is: https://tilde.wiki/wiki/Tildeverse#Joining_the_tildeverse_as_a_member_tilde

    [ ] The server should have been online and stable for an extended period
    of time (usually a year at least)
    [x] The admin should have a good reputation within their community
    [x] The admin and server should express an interest in sharing
    or collaborating on services in the tildeverse network
    [ ] A channel representing the tilde on the shared
    tilde.chat IRC network
    [ ] The tilde server is in-line with the codes of
    conduct of the tildeverse

    I already run some Tilde-relevant services (Usenet and NNCP). Would
    somebody be willing to peer with me with the tilde.* newsgroups?
    Could I get the NNCP service listed on tildeverse.org?

    the list on tildeverse.org is generated from the list of repos in the 'tildeverse' org on tildegit: https://tildegit.org/tildeverse, this
    would be trivial to add!

    Feel free to grab me on email or irc if you have any other questions!
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