• Migrating from LiGNUx to NetBSD

    From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.bsd on Mon Oct 19 08:41:25 2026
    * Yes, Linus, Your Wish Is My Command: I'll Walk Away! *

    The Linux Kernel
    AI Coding Assistants
    <https://docs.kernel.org/process/coding-assistants.html>

    arsTECHNICA / 20260716
    Linus Torvalds to critics of AI coding in Linux:
    “Fork it. Or just walk away.” <https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai-coding-in-linux-fork-it-or-just-walk-away/>

    There are reasons to do what the BDFL suggested.


    * Taking A Deep Breath *

    In Gnome2 days I was fit enough with NetBSD to run it there. I mainly
    did it to compare it against Gnome on Linux (and FreeBSD), but my use
    cases of BSDs mainly stayed being some systems in my network used via
    SSH.

    Later I dropped playing with FreeBSD and OpenBSD when it was clear that
    they would not provide a future for 32bit PCs. Additionally Debian
    dropped them too and additionally doesn't provide install images for
    32bit RasPIs any more.

    Now I feel like a refugee.

    I'm still used to NetBSD without GUI over SSH or MOSH, but my future
    questions about configuring GUI and multimedia stuff with NetBSD may
    look otherwise. Please do not laugh too loud. OK?


    Fingers crossed! ,,X_
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.bsd on Tue Oct 20 09:24:31 2026
    ... and that USB thing my bank forces me to use for eBanking will be a
    problem with NetBSD. Probably I need to keep two penguins alive for
    eBanking (one as backup system).
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  • From tomasino@tomasino@cosmic.voyage to tilde.bsd on Thu Oct 22 17:25:00 2026
    yeti wrote:
    There are reasons to do what the BDFL suggested.

    You should use AI to write your own OS with no AI!

    But seriously, I've considered leaving the mainstream OS flock for a bit
    and it's been work needs that prevent me. Retirement could be a nice opportunity. I wonder what my options will look like then

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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.bsd on Fri Oct 23 07:08:01 2026
    tomasino <tomasino@cosmic.voyage> wrote:

    yeti wrote: > There are reasons to do what the BDFL suggested.

    You should use AI to write your own OS with no AI!

    I've only used AI maybe a dozen times e.g. to ask for example code for
    some library functions, draw an image or explain some totally not
    related to IT things.

    * Not one text to image experiment was successful.

    * Not one question about code was 100% correct, but the glitches were so
    obvious, that I could fix them.

    * The other questions' answers were ok. Having assimilated all of
    Wikipedia and similar, I think that was not a surprise.

    I'll not use AI regularly even for those cases, so it will take years
    until that dozen of experiments will be doubled.

    But seriously, I've considered leaving the mainstream OS flock for a
    bit and it's been work needs that prevent me. Retirement could be a
    nice opportunity. I wonder what my options will look like then

    Probably needing the penguin for being able to do eBanking really
    sucks. The alternatives would be MacOS/IOS, Windows or Android.
    Probably I'll find more cases where something runs on quasi everything
    except a BSD.

    NetBSD-ing my old Atom32 netbook (Ideapad S10) already brings the known
    NetBSD WiFi problems. Most miniPCI card make problems or are completely unsupported and the USB-Wlanettes I have only allow 11g.

    The influx of new users to NetBSD is clearly noticeable in Libera's
    NetBSD channel and the amount of donations that surfaced for NetBSD
    seems to tell the same story: "$124,117 raised of $50,000 goal" as of
    today.

    There will be more users and more money to improve NetBSD. So migrating
    slower may save some stress. I should migrate the GUI-less stuff first
    and those typically are in my "copper-LAN".
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  • From freet@freet@aussies.space (The Free Thinker) to tilde.bsd on Sat Oct 24 22:07:28 2026
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
    * The other questions' answers were ok. Having assimilated all of
    Wikipedia and similar, I think that was not a surprise.

    Huh, well I found AIs made up all sorts of completely misleading
    nonsense when I asked such test questions, and you've pinpointed
    exactly the reason why - I was asking about topics that aren't on
    Wikipedia, but the AIs weigh Wikipedia so heavily that they pick
    unrelated facts from distantly related Wikipedia pages and work
    them into a convincing hallucination rather than referencing other
    websites actually covering the topic. I don't even trust Wikipedia
    much anyway - read the references!

    But seriously, I've considered leaving the mainstream OS flock for a
    bit and it's been work needs that prevent me. Retirement could be a
    nice opportunity. I wonder what my options will look like then

    Probably needing the penguin for being able to do eBanking really
    sucks. The alternatives would be MacOS/IOS, Windows or Android.

    Or you can always go like me and stop using eBanking in the first
    place.

    NetBSD-ing my old Atom32 netbook (Ideapad S10) already brings the known NetBSD WiFi problems. Most miniPCI card make problems or are completely unsupported and the USB-Wlanettes I have only allow 11g.

    The influx of new users to NetBSD is clearly noticeable in Libera's
    NetBSD channel and the amount of donations that surfaced for NetBSD
    seems to tell the same story: "$124,117 raised of $50,000 goal" as of
    today.

    There will be more users and more money to improve NetBSD. So migrating slower may save some stress.

    Hmm, if the work goes into drivers and not bloating it with
    features you'll never use. Besides AI usage, my other complaint has
    been that the Linux kernel (binary) keeps getting fatter with new
    versions, even if you go the extra mile to disable the new features.

    I should migrate the GUI-less stuff first and those typically are
    in my "copper-LAN".

    I'm not sure if the GUI stuff is much different if you're already
    using X on Linux. Though maybe it's not all set up for you like
    with some Linux distros. I've been planning to try and make the
    switch too, but so far I haven't found the time for experiments.

    I already isolated modern Linux to a headless system that I access
    from ancient Linux versions running on old computers to run newer
    programs like Firefox from them.
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