Sean Dennis wrote to All <=-
This time, the EliteDesk didn't have any network. Even after searching
on my phone and Google and putting in the right driver (tg3), it didn't work. I spent a good 30 minutes going around Google, doing this and
that, without any success.
So I gave up.
Hi everyone,
I spent an hour or so tonight learning something: do not buy computers with Broadcom chips in them if you want to use anything other than Windows on it.
I am using a little HP Z210 workstation with a little i3 and formerly 4GB of RAM with a 500GB HD. I also have a HP EliteDesk 705 SFF (i7, 8GB RAM, 1TB HD). I decided to swap out the hard drives between computers. It's worked before: since Linux runs completely in RAM, I've successfully moved the same Linux install between computers with ease.
Not this time.
This time, the EliteDesk didn't have any network. Even after searching on my phone and Google and putting in the right driver (tg3), it didn't work.
I spent a good 30 minutes going around Google, doing this and that, without any success.
So I gave up.
I looked in a box of various computer-y parts and things that I brought with me to the apartment and I found a 4GB stick of RAM that would fit in the EliteDesk. I then swapped the 8GB of RAM for that 4GB stick in the EliteDesk and stuck that 8GB into the Z210.
The Z210 is working great ... better than before. It's definitely breathing easier when I watch a stream on Twitch via Chrome and do other work.
Lesson learned: be a lot more picky about buying computer equipment. Generally, if I stick to mainstream Intel stuff, I'm pretty good, like this Z210 is all Intel.
Sure, I wasted a few hours but really gets me is having a computer I can't use ... I paid $250 for that EliteDesk and it works nicely with Windows ... but you can't use anything else on it.
I think I might give it to one of my parents if they will have it. If not, I might sell it and get me a Z800 workstation off of eBay. Those Z800s are monsters but they are built like tanks.
Later,
Sean
... Do you remember when Coke was sipped not sniffed?
Too bad you didn't get it to work.
I source most of my computers from a second hand dealer. You can have some Optiplex computers for 30 bucks the piece. I even get my computers for
work
there. More often than not they work, and if they don't, I am off only 30 bucks
Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
I source most of my computers from a second hand dealer. You can have
some Optiplex computers for 30 bucks the piece. I even get my computers for work there. More often than not they work, and if they don't, I am
off only 30 bucks :-)
Alas, I can't afford to work at those companies anymore. :)
Alas, I can't afford to work at those companies anymore. :)
You've become too used to the good life? <G>
Yeah, those pesky "golden handcuffs"...
Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
I source most of my computers from a second hand dealer. You can have some Optiplex computers for 30 bucks the piece. I even get my computers for work there. Mor
often than not they work, and if they don't, I am
off only 30 bucks :-)
I liked being the IT guy at a small company, trying to make do with a too- small budget. I'd bu
second-hand off-lease computers, increase the RAM and run a company's network on a shoestring
budget. Or buy 10 systems and make them into 7 working systems maxxed out for RAM, with the bes
video cards
out of the lot, and 3 spare parts machines.
Alas, I can't afford to work at those companies anymore. :)
... Overtly resist change
Now that I'm "retired", I have the time to do what I want ... but at the cost of constantly being in pain and being limited physically what I can do.
... By the time most of us have money to burn, our fire's gone out
Arelor wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I tried applying for a job at big IT because I wanted to learn from
within the indutry, instead of
self-learning from second-hand books and by trying to hack solutions together without any
assitence. Nowadays I don't think I would be living better had I gotten the job.
Sean Dennis wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Alas, I can't afford to work at those companies anymore. :)
You've become too used to the good life? <G>
I would love to be the IT guy at a small company again if I could.
Arelor wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I tried applying for a job at big IT because I wanted to learn from within the indutry, instead of
self-learning from second-hand books and by trying to hack solutions together without any
assitence. Nowadays I don't think I would be living better had I gotten the job.
I've had the pleasure of working for IT when they'd just hire you off the street if you showed a
modicum of knowledge about computers and paid pretty well to do so. Now, at my age, my knowledg
and age are considered
liabilities and I have been passed over for younger, less knowledgeable people who don't know what they're worth.
Since I am disabled and can no longer work, I can keep learning and using my skills for my own
needs though I still do a paying side job now and again.
Later,
Sean
... If we can't fix it, it ain't broke.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Everyone else is used to it - mortgage, college tuition for one kid, private school for the other... :)
It's a lot of fun being able to work directly with a couple of people
to get things done, and make decisions quickly. The company I'm in now
is a subsidiary of a subsidiary, and while "No" comes quickly, "Yes"
can take quite a few hoops to jump through.
Arelor wrote to Sean Dennis <=-Ar leaving HP for firms that paid *less*.
HP Printing is doing a lot of the later. The issue with that is that
once you train people, they leave your shitty firm :-) IN the case of
HP Printing, there are deeper issues involved. I have known of people
I think I might give it to one of my parents if they will have it. If
not, I might sell it and get me a Z800 workstation off of eBay. Those
Z800s are monsters but they are built like tanks.
I have one of those Z800s and they are monsters for a workstation. Basically a server in a different form factor.
The only different between it and my Supermicro servers is the Z800 has way less drive bays and less memory slots. Also, I don't think the Z800 has iLo/IPMI or any type of lights out management.
Sean Dennis wrote to Arelor <=-
told me to never get rid of my printer because it was the "last of the printers built to last. I've had this printer since 2008 and it's
served me very well.
That's what I want it for since I do development and SDR
(software-defined radio).
Having working in IT for decades, for me, those "golden handcuffs" came,
at times, with a pretty high cost.
Now that I'm "retired", I have the time to do what I want ... but at the cost of constantly being in pain and being limited physically what I can do.
It's all a trade-off.
I tried applying for a job at big IT because I wanted to learn from within the indutry, instead of
self-learning from second-hand books and by trying to hack solutions together without any
assitence. Nowadays I don't think I would be living better had I gotten
the job.
Since I am disabled and can no longer work, I can keep learning and using my skills for my own needs though I still do a paying side job now and again.
I tried applying for a job at big IT because I wanted to learn from withi the indutry, instead of
self-learning from second-hand books and by trying to hack solutions together without any
assitence. Nowadays I don't think I would be living better had I gotten the job.
That is exactly how I started. Everyone learns differently, but I learn the best by doing and hands on.
- Mark
Mark Hofmann wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
Some of the places that have the golden noose will work you to death, non-stop after hours calling, weekend and night work all the time, etc.
That is not for me, anymore. I used to think that was exciting when I was younger, but not so much anymore.
Mark Hofmann wrote to Sean Dennis <=-
One thing that has changed in IT since the virus is the excelleration
to working remote - permanantly. Lots more opportunities for full time remote work/support where you can work anywhere in the country.
I have always liked this idea as it breaks that state barrier where you can live in a less expensive state and work for a company in a high
cost state and maximize your cost of living. I think long term, this normalizes the cost of living since there will be so many options to
work anywhere no matter where you live.
The editor of a media company recently said that some employees preferred to
work remotely, and since they weren't part of the chemistry of their office, which everyone should want to come to and collaborate, should be considered contractors and lose benefits.
She's already had to walk that statement back, let's see how long she lasts.
My BBS server, a HP ProLiant ML110 G6, does have iLo (thanks for
reminding me; I need to get iLo set up). I would dearly love a Z800 for
my own personal workstation. Someday. <G>
iLo is great except for the fact that HP wants a license fee to enable it.
I don't remember that being the case iLo was in the Compaq servers.
IPMI is basically the same thing but a different name that is in Supermicro servers. I even have an app on my phone that shows me how my power realtime my servers are using and can monitor the sensors on it. You can remotely power it on/off, etc, too of course.
In the BIOS on my server, it is called IPMI. The only place you see iLo mentioned on the computer is the extra NIC on the motherboard that has "iLO" silkscreened on the outside of the case next to that port.
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