• Re: Fixed

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Dec 1 08:38:20 2023
    We need laws that will put Republicans (specificially Republicans) in jai >ailing to prosecute unconstitutional executive orders.

    (1) they may have looked them over and figured out they were constitutional. (2) they may believe the orders will be easier to
    repeal, via another executive order, once a Republican is elected President. (3) they probably don't want to set a precident that would prevent a Republican President from later also using executive orders.

    Congressman Marc Molinaro (for example) voted against impeachment of president Biden, and yea, maybe he knows the law better than I do, and maybe he found the impeachment unconstitutional, but he has yet to explain himself.

    That should be a crime too - US reps voting against the wishes of their constituents, and then not providing an explaination as to why - but then again, who would ever prosecute it anyway?

    "Waiting for a Republican president" shouldn't be an option for members of congress. When something needs fixed, the fix can't be contingent on a miracle.

    Executive orders from presidents have been useless for the border issue. Trump put a band aid on it, then Biden ripped it off (hair and all.)

    I also would like to see state governors punished for unconstitutional executive orders. They aren't solving anything either.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Dec 2 14:17:54 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    We actually discussed this some here at the time. Someone tried to
    claim
    that the videos of immigrants trying to illegally enter Spain over an
    African land border had to be fake because Spain has no land border
    in
    Africa. I pointed out they were not correct as Spain does include
    land
    on the African side of the Mediterranean that has land borders with
    Morocco.

    So if they cross the border, into the Spanish territory, then the Spaniards
    have a duty to "rescue" them?

    Somebody forgot to tell Mikey that Gibraltar is an island.
    And the British won't let Africans (or Spaniards) have it.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Dec 2 09:02:13 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    We need laws that will put Republicans (specificially Republicans) in
    jail for failing to prosecute unconstitutional executive orders.

    The problem is when the people in charge of enforcing the laws won't do their job either.

    Here in Michigan, we have an AG who refuses to prosecute the people we have clear evidence of committing voter fraud.

    But isn't "derelection of duty" already actionable?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Dec 2 10:53:00 2023
    That should be a crime too - US reps voting against the wishes of their consti
    ents, and then not providing an explaination as to why - but then again, who w
    ld ever prosecute it anyway?

    I am going to play devil's advocate here for just a second and ask if you
    are sure that a majority of Molinaro's constituents wanted him to vote to impeach? I agree, an explanation would be nice. Thomas Massey gave one
    right away, for example, when he initially didn't vote to go after Schiff.
    He also said he would vote for it once they fixed the unconstitutional parts.

    "Waiting for a Republican president" shouldn't be an option for members of con
    ess. When something needs fixed, the fix can't be contingent on a miracle.

    Waiting on the Republican president might be less of a miracle than getting
    the Democrats currently in the Senate to agree to it. I would say the latter is very much against all odds.

    I also would like to see state governors punished for unconstitutional executiv
    orders. They aren't solving anything either.

    It should only take someone filing suit and proving their case, or
    convincing the state AG to do so. The latter happened here.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Dec 2 10:34:00 2023
    Here in Michigan, we have an AG who refuses to prosecute the people we have clear evidence of committing voter fraud.

    But isn't "derelection of duty" already actionable?

    I would think so. In Michigan, do you have to go through the AG's office
    to prosecute it? If so, I am guessing that is a fat chance.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Dec 2 16:29:27 2023
    We need laws that will put Republicans (specificially Republicans) in jail for failing to prosecute unconstitutional executive orders.

    The problem is when the people in charge of enforcing the laws won't do their job either.

    Here in Michigan, we have an AG who refuses to prosecute the people we have clear evidence of committing voter fraud.

    But isn't "derelection of duty" already actionable?

    Citizens should be able to sue/prosecute when the elected officials mess up.

    I want to sue Kathy Hochul for the racist way she distributed Paxlovid. She even just very recently made a law that "makes it easier than ever to report hate crimes." But I'm too scared to do it. Lizard Lips would retaliate against me.

    I'd also like to sue/prosecute Biden for the racist way that they distributed clean water pipes with the so-called "Build Back Better BS."

    But again, too scared. I already reported the later issue to my US rep (R) and his minions defended the president and tried to blame it on Lizard Lips.

    I guess we need a special police force who the people could call when the gov f's us over, but who would that be? The system isn't designed for that level of reality.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Dec 2 16:53:04 2023
    I am going to play devil's advocate here for just a second and ask if you are sure that a majority of Molinaro's constituents wanted him to vote to impeach? I agree, an explanation would be nice. Thomas Massey gave one right away, for example, when he initially didn't vote to go after
    Schiff. He also said he would vote for it once they fixed the unconstitutional parts.

    This US congressional district is littered with Trump signs. All my friends are conservatives. I think most of this district is caucasian. With all that being said, I doubt my complaint about Biden was the 1st or the last.

    After watching the Democrats play hardball with Trump for 4 years, I have no tolerance for watching the Republicans play softball with Biden. There's no excuse that Molinaro's office could provide that would satisfy me.

    It should only take someone filing suit and proving their case, or convincing the state AG to do so. The latter happened here.

    The AG here is busy suing Trump for violating Deutsche Bank policy. ;)

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  • From Chad Adams@1:19/37 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Dec 2 23:18:23 2023
    I have seen numerous reports of that. Saw a few get arrested for it.


    Ron L. wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    We need laws that will put Republicans (specificially Republicans) in
    jail for failing to prosecute unconstitutional executive orders.

    The problem is when the people in charge of enforcing the laws won't do their job either.

    Here in Michigan, we have an AG who refuses to prosecute the people we have clear evidence of committing voter fraud.

    But isn't "derelection of duty" already actionable?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Dec 3 13:46:26 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    [..]

    We can start with strict adherence to the Constitution.

    Any judge that rules differently should be removed.
    Passing of an unconstitutional law should mean immediate removal of all
    congress-critters involved with a charge of "insurrection" and the 14th
    Amendment should be used to make sure they never get in again.

    We need laws that will put Republicans (specificially Republicans) in jail for failing to prosecute unconstitutional executive orders.

    Well, since there are no unconstitutional executive orders ...

    For Life,
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Dec 3 09:17:58 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But isn't "derelection of duty" already actionable?

    I would think so. In Michigan, do you have to go through the AG's
    office to prosecute it? If so, I am guessing that is a fat chance.

    I vaguely recall a group in Michigan requesting that someone at the federal level to look into this. I mean who prosecutes the state's chief prosecutor?

    But, of course, that went no where since they are all controlled by the same master.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Dec 3 09:17:58 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Citizens should be able to sue/prosecute when the elected officials
    mess up.

    Ya, but the key word there is "should". The system protects itself, so even though we should, we can't.

    I guess we need a special police force who the people could call when
    the gov f's us over, but who would that be? The system isn't designed
    for that level of reality.

    Technically, we have that in the U.S. military. Oh, wait, they had their leadership subverted as well. So no help there.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Dec 3 15:02:44 2023
    I guess we need a special police force who the people could call when the gov f's us over, but who would that be? The system isn't designed for that level of reality.

    Technically, we have that in the U.S. military. Oh, wait, they had their leadership subverted as well. So no help there.

    It should be 100% crystal clear to members of the military that we're being mistreated by the Biden regime, in an unprecedented way. The Air Force has officers monitoring the mainstream news media 24 hours per day, and those guys are supervised by the base commanders. So they have to be aware of some of the awful things that are currently transpiring, but they don't dare turn their backs on the Commander in Chief. I don't blame them, but at the same time, what sense does it make to be in the military while the president is working against those who you defend?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Dec 4 07:25:51 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    but they don't dare turn their backs on the Commander in Chief. I don't blame them, but at the same time, what sense does it make to be in the military while the president is working against those who you defend?

    Hence why they are having trouble recruiting people.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Dec 4 14:14:51 2023
    but they don't dare turn their backs on the Commander in Chief. I don blame them, but at the same time, what sense does it make to be in th military while the president is working against those who you defend?

    Hence why they are having trouble recruiting people.

    Democrats should make a deal with the American people: We'll join the military if they stop with the woke stuff, close the border, stop funneling money to Ukraine, find out where covid came from, find out what disease they're planning to unleash next, and start paying down our debt instead of adding to it.

    If my country would do those things for me, I'd be willing to join the military in return (if I were young enough.)

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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Sun Dec 10 19:14:00 2023
    |Also think about it, how would alleged illegal immigrants reach Germany, Poland
    |and the Baltic States?
    +-[WD=>MP]

    Maybe via Russia? That is how they are reaching Finland. The migrants are legally in Russia, but Finland claims Russia has been sending them to their border (and the borders of other countries) where they apparently question their claims of "asylum," which would make them not legal in the country
    they are being sent to.

    Finland Seals Off Border with Russia
    Source: CBS News
    https://youtu.be/0HSP2ATxqbs?si=tmQ-oxWzAIln2kRT

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