• Travelling was: BBSes

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 3 06:00:08 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Looks like this could be made with almost any fruit; I'd probably not
    use durian, however. (G)

    Lack of supply?

    As good a reason as any. We've seen it in some of the Asian stores
    around here but not yet picked one up.

    Some years ago we had two tornadoes hit my town. Among other things
    they took out a S.E. Asian restaurant supplier and the next door neighbour, a basttery supplies. Batteries and durians were frond over
    two miles from their respective stores. Fortunately no one was hit
    with either.

    That could have put a lot of hurt on somebody. We got home from a cruise/inland tour of Alaska yesterday, me recovering from bronchitis & Steve with some kind of head/chest bug. Saw your note about pneumonia
    and an O2 concentrator, hopefully you're doing much better. I've been using a concentrator since last November; I think it did keep the bronchitis lighter this time around.

    May 2023 was not a good month for me. Without the excellent medical care available to me here I'd have been dead from any of my three trips to
    hospital. My oxygen levels are typically between 88 and 92 because of the
    COPD and emphysema. I'm not convinced of the need for supplemental O2 so
    long as I stay abouve 88. But, my croakers prescribed the dratted thing.

    I have a fingertip Oximeter at home and I see no difference between the readings with and without the concentrator. Just put the gadget on and
    it tells me my O2 is at 96 (excellent) and my pulse is 50. And the little
    blood pressure cuff I bought gives me 137/57. I'm so healthy that it's sickening. Bv)=

    We finally got to experience rail car dining on the way up to Denali
    from Whittier. The menu was very limited; I got a turkey (with other stuff--lettuce, tomato, cheese) sandwich but gave half of it to Steve. Forget what he got but he finished it all. The ride was really nice
    once we broke out of the coastal fog down in Whittier--had a really
    good view of Denali for a good bit of the ride.

    Railroad dining has fallen a long way. It used to be the equivalent of
    a fine restaurant - only on wheels. I remember my first dining car meal
    when I was 14 (1956). The tables had heavy white tablecloths, the chairs
    were well padded .... it just looked elegant. And I picked a dish not
    well suited to a moving train that tends to sway from side to side and otherwise be a bit unsteady. Roast duckling a l'orange. Bv)=

    This recipe is for 6 servings. What I had was a single serving sized
    individual duckling. You could probably substitute orange extract for
    the Garnd Marnier/Curacao liquer if you ever go nuts and make this.

    Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roasted Duckling a l’Orange
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 6 servings

    3 lb (1200g) whole ducking;
    - gutted and head cut off
    2 ts Salt & fresh cracked pepper
    1 sm Bunch of carrots; rinsed,
    - cut lengthwise
    2 Whole heads of garlic;
    - sliced crosswise
    1 md Onion; quartered
    2 (or 3) sprigs rosemary
    Fresh thyme leaves
    Fresh bay leaves
    3 tb Honey
    1/4 c Apple cider vinegar
    2 c Chicken stock
    1 ts Cornstarch
    2 tb Unsalted butter; room temp
    3 Oranges; sliced, zested
    Juice of 1 orange
    3 tb Grand Marnier or other
    - orange liqueur

    Set your oven @ 325ºF/160ºC.

    In the meantime, season the duck with salt and pepper
    and brown the whole duck in a large cast-iron skillet on
    all sides, about 10 minutes.

    Arrange garlic heads, onion, carrots, herbs in the
    bottom of a baking pan and arrange browned duck on top,
    this helps the duck meat crisp better. Roast duck in the
    oven for 90 minutes, turning it upside down every 30
    minutes to roast the neat evenly.

    Meanwhile, boil the vinegar, orange juice, and honey in
    a small saucepan. Pour in the chicken stock little by
    little, stirring constantly. Set aside.

    Blanch the orange slices in boiling water for 2 minutes,
    then transfer to a salad bowl. Pour Grand Marnier over
    the orange slices, and marinate while the duck is
    roasting.

    When the duck is done after 90 minutes, remove it from
    the oven and cover it with foil. Increase the oven
    temperature to 450ºF/230ºC and arrange the marinated
    orange slices around the duck, sprinkle with orange
    zest. Return the duck to the oven and roast for 10 - 15
    minutes, until the skin is crisped up.

    TO FINISH THE ORANGE SAUCE: Bring it to a simmer in the
    saucepan, add in cornstarch, then swirl in the butter
    one tablespoon at a time until thickened. Adjust
    seasoning to your liking.

    To serve, carve the duck, slice de duck breasts, and
    arrange on a serving platter with roasted veggies and
    garnished with fresh thyme, rosemary, and bay leaves.
    Transfer the orange sauce to a serving vessel. Serve the
    roasted duck a l’orange immediately.

    Enjoy!

    By Christina Cherrier

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.eatwell101.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 3 14:26:13 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Some years ago we had two tornadoes hit my town. Among other things
    they took out a S.E. Asian restaurant supplier and the next door neighbour, a basttery supplies. Batteries and durians were frond over
    two miles from their respective stores. Fortunately no one was hit
    with either.

    That could have put a lot of hurt on somebody. We got home from a cruise/inland tour of Alaska yesterday, me recovering from bronchitis & Steve with some kind of head/chest bug. Saw your note about pneumonia
    and an O2 concentrator, hopefully you're doing much better. I've been using a concentrator since last November; I think it did keep the bronchitis lighter this time around.

    May 2023 was not a good month for me. Without the excellent medical
    care available to me here I'd have been dead from any of my three
    trips to
    hospital. My oxygen levels are typically between 88 and 92 because of
    the COPD and emphysema. I'm not convinced of the need for supplemental
    O2 so long as I stay abouve 88. But, my croakers prescribed the
    dratted thing.

    I have the fingertip device, don't use it as much as I should. My
    pulminology dr had me do an overnight O2 test that showed my levels
    going very low at night. Tried a CPAP with bad side effects; the
    concentrator is a lot easier for home use (OTOH, a beast to fly with).


    I have a fingertip Oximeter at home and I see no difference between
    the readings with and without the concentrator. Just put the gadget on
    and
    it tells me my O2 is at 96 (excellent) and my pulse is 50. And the
    little blood pressure cuff I bought gives me 137/57. I'm so healthy
    that it's
    sickening. Bv)=

    We finally got to experience rail car dining on the way up to Denali
    from Whittier. The menu was very limited; I got a turkey (with other stuff--lettuce, tomato, cheese) sandwich but gave half of it to Steve. Forget what he got but he finished it all. The ride was really nice
    once we broke out of the coastal fog down in Whittier--had a really
    good view of Denali for a good bit of the ride.

    Railroad dining has fallen a long way. It used to be the equivalent of
    a fine restaurant - only on wheels. I remember my first dining car
    meal when I was 14 (1956). The tables had heavy white tablecloths, the chairs were well padded .... it just looked elegant. And I picked a
    dish not
    well suited to a moving train that tends to sway from side to side and otherwise be a bit unsteady. Roast duckling a l'orange. Bv)=

    So I've heard. We had cream colored tablecloth/napkins and (padded)
    bench (with back) seating. I'm left handed and Steve (right handed) sat
    on my left, another couple across the table from us. I had to keep my
    elbow tucked in tight so as not to bump Steve but it was an experience
    I'll probably never have again.

    This recipe is for 6 servings. What I had was a single serving
    sized DD> individual duckling. You could probably substitute orange
    extract for DD> the Garnd Marnier/Curacao liquer if you ever go nuts
    and make this.

    Some time when I've nothing else to do and happen to have everything
    needed in the pantry & fridge, I might give it a try. Did do Alton
    Brown's "Mighty Duck" from his "Good Eats" show once--duck and swiss
    chard were ok but rice dressing was really bad.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 5 06:25:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    hospital. My oxygen levels are typically between 88 and 92 because of
    the COPD and emphysema. I'm not convinced of the need for supplemental
    O2 so long as I stay abouve 88. But, my croakers prescribed the
    dratted thing.

    I have the fingertip device, don't use it as much as I should. My pulminology dr had me do an overnight O2 test that showed my levels
    going very low at night. Tried a CPAP with bad side effects; the concentrator is a lot easier for home use (OTOH, a beast to fly with).

    My home concentrator would be difficult/impossible to fly with. Ir is
    two feet tall, ten (oe so) inches thick and almost three fet wide. The portable, OTOH weighs about 10 pounds and is about the size of a small
    ladies purse .... 11 inches by 3 inches by 7 inches. At 2 litres per
    minute the battery is good (they claim in the instructions) for 8 hours.

    That would not be especially onerous to travel with. I got mine because
    the alternative was going to be taking along an oxygen cylinder.

    I have a fingertip Oximeter at home and I see no difference between
    the readings with and without the concentrator. Just put the gadget
    on and it tells me my O2 is at 96 (excellent) and my pulse is 50.
    And the little blood pressure cuff I bought gives me 137/57. I'm so healthy that it's sickening. Bv)=

    We finally got to experience rail car dining on the way up to Denali
    from Whittier. The menu was very limited; I got a turkey (with other stuff--lettuce, tomato, cheese) sandwich but gave half of it to Steve. Forget what he got but he finished it all. The ride was really nice
    once we broke out of the coastal fog down in Whittier--had a really
    good view of Denali for a good bit of the ride.

    Railroad dining has fallen a long way. It used to be the equivalent of
    a fine restaurant - only on wheels. I remember my first dining car
    meal when I was 14 (1956). The tables had heavy white tablecloths,
    the chairs were well padded .... it just looked elegant. And I
    picked a dish not well suited to a moving train that tends to sway
    from side to side and otherwise be a bit unsteady. Roast duckling
    a l'orange. Bv)=

    So I've heard. We had cream colored tablecloth/napkins and (padded)
    bench (with back) seating. I'm left handed and Steve (right handed) sat
    on my left, another couple across the table from us. I had to keep my elbow tucked in tight so as not to bump Steve but it was an experience I'll probably never have again.

    Apparently that was not an Amtrak train. Their "dining" facilities/food
    is an obscene joke .... IMO. Like airline snacks on a short flight.

    I'm a lefty as well. When I pick my seat I make sure the left is on
    the "outside". Then the righty seated next and I do not elbow each other.
    Bv)=

    This recipe is for 6 servings. What I had was a single serving
    sized DD> individual duckling. You could probably substitute orange
    extract for DD> the Garnd Marnier/Curacao liquer if you ever go nuts
    and make this.

    Some time when I've nothing else to do and happen to have everything needed in the pantry & fridge, I might give it a try. Did do Alton
    Brown's "Mighty Duck" from his "Good Eats" show once--duck and swiss
    chard were ok but rice dressing was really bad.

    I looked up the recipe - and did not see rice mentioned anywhere. Must
    have had to watch the actual TVFN show for that. Bv)=

    Chard and kale are not high on my list of preferred greenery to cook
    with. Like Popeye, I likes me spinach. Even the canned stuff.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    48 oz Can tomato juice *
    13 1/2 oz Can spinach (323 g)
    1/2 ts Oregano; crumbled
    1/2 ts Basil; crumbled
    1/4 ts Thyme; crumbled
    1/4 ts Marjoram; crumbled
    1/4 ts Fresh ground pepper
    1 cl Garlic; crushed
    2 c Med. pasta shells
    Parmesan cheese

    * Couple things here - if you use regular (salted) juice
    you will not need to add salt to the soup. The other and
    more important thing is to use a good quality tomato
    juice like Red Gold (just the best tomato products I
    have found).

    Pour tomato juice into cooking vessel. Add spinach and
    the herbs/spices. Cover and cook over medium heat for
    15 minutes.

    Add pasta and cook until pasta is tender about 10 mins.

    Serve hot; sprinkled with Parmesan cheese.

    Another Uncle Dirty Dave Special; suggested by Kathy Pitts

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jun 5 13:54:31 2023
    Hi Dave,

    going very low at night. Tried a CPAP with bad side effects; the concentrator is a lot easier for home use (OTOH, a beast to fly with).

    My home concentrator would be difficult/impossible to fly with. Ir is
    two feet tall, ten (oe so) inches thick and almost three fet wide. The

    The original one I had was not good for flying, company we were renting
    from said to contact them before travel and they would let me rent a
    small, portable one. Contacted them in early April, they said "no go" so
    we bought a somewhat smaller unit (with a travel cart) from another
    company. It worked well but the handle (on the unit itself) broke while
    on our trip. We're going to have to send it in for repair.


    portable, OTOH weighs about 10 pounds and is about the size of a small ladies purse .... 11 inches by 3 inches by 7 inches. At 2 litres per minute the battery is good (they claim in the instructions) for 8
    hours.

    I understand that's only good for bursts, not continuous use. I need the continuous use, only when sleeping, so have to go with the bigger unit.
    I didn't try to use it in flight, tho it was theoretically possible.


    That would not be especially onerous to travel with. I got mine
    because the alternative was going to be taking along an oxygen
    cylinder.

    The company that rented us the first unit supplied a cylinder for back
    up. When we turned in the rental (after buying the other), they took the cylinder also.

    We finally got to experience rail car dining on the way up to Denali
    from Whittier. The menu was very limited; I got a turkey (with other

    Railroad dining has fallen a long way. It used to be the equivalent of
    a fine restaurant - only on wheels. I remember my first dining car
    meal when I was 14 (1956). The tables had heavy white tablecloths,
    the chairs were well padded .... it just looked elegant. And I
    picked a dish not well suited to a moving train that tends to sway
    from side to side and otherwise be a bit unsteady. Roast duckling
    a l'orange. Bv)=

    So I've heard. We had cream colored tablecloth/napkins and (padded)
    bench (with back) seating. I'm left handed and Steve (right handed) sat
    on my left, another couple across the table from us. I had to keep my elbow tucked in tight so as not to bump Steve but it was an experience I'll probably never have again.

    Apparently that was not an Amtrak train. Their "dining"
    facilities/food is an obscene joke .... IMO. Like airline snacks on a short flight.

    No, not Amtrak but Alaska Railroads. Don't know how profitable it is but
    it works with cruise lines. We were seated in a domed observation car
    but Steve wandered over to the more open car for pictures.

    I'm a lefty as well. When I pick my seat I make sure the left is on
    the "outside". Then the righty seated next and I do not elbow each
    other. Bv)=

    We were in very tight quarters and I didn't want to bump (or be bumped
    by) the wait staff. We've worked out this arraingement over the years so
    that the only one that gets bumped is Steve. If I have to sit with
    someone else on my left, I move a bit to the right (if possible) and
    tuck my elbow in as much as possible.

    This recipe is for 6 servings. What I had was a single serving
    sized DD> individual duckling. You could probably substitute orange
    extract for DD> the Garnd Marnier/Curacao liquer if you ever go nuts
    and make this.

    Some time when I've nothing else to do and happen to have everything needed in the pantry & fridge, I might give it a try. Did do Alton
    Brown's "Mighty Duck" from his "Good Eats" show once--duck and swiss
    chard were ok but rice dressing was really bad.

    I looked up the recipe - and did not see rice mentioned anywhere. Must have had to watch the actual TVFN show for that. Bv)=

    It was included in the packaging with the duck, don't remember if it was
    a part of the original recipe or not. We had cable (including Food
    Network) tv while in HI; that was when I tried the recipe.


    Chard and kale are not high on my list of preferred greenery to cook
    with. Like Popeye, I likes me spinach. Even the canned stuff.

    I like most greens in various degrees, chard better than kale but not as
    good as spinach. Collards are good too, if cooked long enough. I prefer
    fresh greens, will go with frozen if needs be but canned ones are way
    too mushy for me. As a side, I'll usually sprinkle some pepper vinegar
    on them (typical southern) tho balsamic works good with some of them
    also.

    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    48 oz Can tomato juice *
    13 1/2 oz Can spinach (323 g)
    1/2 ts Oregano; crumbled
    1/2 ts Basil; crumbled
    1/4 ts Thyme; crumbled
    1/4 ts Marjoram; crumbled
    1/4 ts Fresh ground pepper
    1 cl Garlic; crushed
    2 c Med. pasta shells
    Parmesan cheese

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of
    our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu
    sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jun 7 05:52:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    going very low at night. Tried a CPAP with bad side effects; the concentrator is a lot easier for home use (OTOH, a beast to fly with).

    My home concentrator would be difficult/impossible to fly with. Ir is
    two feet tall, ten (oe so) inches thick and almost three fet wide. The

    The original one I had was not good for flying, company we were renting from said to contact them before travel and they would let me rent a small, portable one. Contacted them in early April, they said "no go"
    so we bought a somewhat smaller unit (with a travel cart) from another company. It worked well but the handle (on the unit itself) broke while
    on our trip. We're going to have to send it in for repair.

    portable, OTOH weighs about 10 pounds and is about the size of a small ladies purse .... 11 inches by 3 inches by 7 inches. At 2 litres per minute the battery is good (they claim in the instructions) for 8
    hours.

    I understand that's only good for bursts, not continuous use. I need
    the continuous use, only when sleeping, so have to go with the bigger unit. I didn't try to use it in flight, tho it was theoretically
    possible.

    8 hours @ 2 litres per minute is a loooooooooooong nap. Bv)=

    That would not be especially onerous to travel with. I got mine
    because the alternative was going to be taking along an oxygen
    cylinder.

    The company that rented us the first unit supplied a cylinder for back
    up. When we turned in the rental (after buying the other), they took
    the cylinder also.

    8<----- CHOP ----->B

    Apparently that was not an Amtrak train. Their "dining"
    facilities/food is an obscene joke .... IMO. Like airline snacks on a short flight.

    No, not Amtrak but Alaska Railroads. Don't know how profitable it is
    but it works with cruise lines. We were seated in a domed observation
    car but Steve wandered over to the more open car for pictures.

    They're making money or they wouldn't be doing it.

    I'm a lefty as well. When I pick my seat I make sure the left is on
    the "outside". Then the righty seated next and I do not elbow each
    other. Bv)=

    We were in very tight quarters and I didn't want to bump (or be bumped
    by) the wait staff. We've worked out this arraingement over the years
    so that the only one that gets bumped is Steve. If I have to sit with someone else on my left, I move a bit to the right (if possible) and
    tuck my elbow in as much as possible.

    This recipe is for 6 servings. What I had was a single serving
    sized DD> individual duckling. You could probably substitute orange
    extract for DD> the Garnd Marnier/Curacao liquer if you ever go nuts
    and make this.

    Some time when I've nothing else to do and happen to have everything needed in the pantry & fridge, I might give it a try. Did do Alton
    Brown's "Mighty Duck" from his "Good Eats" show once--duck and swiss
    chard were ok but rice dressing was really bad.

    I looked up the recipe - and did not see rice mentioned anywhere. Must have had to watch the actual TVFN show for that. Bv)=

    It was included in the packaging with the duck, don't remember if it
    was a part of the original recipe or not. We had cable (including Food Network) tv while in HI; that was when I tried the recipe.

    OK. Fair enuf.

    Chard and kale are not high on my list of preferred greenery to cook
    with. Like Popeye, I likes me spinach. Even the canned stuff.

    I like most greens in various degrees, chard better than kale but not
    as good as spinach. Collards are good too, if cooked long enough. I
    prefer fresh greens, will go with frozen if needs be but canned ones
    are way too mushy for me. As a side, I'll usually sprinkle some pepper vinegar on them (typical southern) tho balsamic works good with some of them also.

    How about dandelion greena. I like them pretty well so long as they're
    not too "mature" (tough and bitter).

    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    48 oz Can tomato juice *
    13 1/2 oz Can spinach (323 g)
    1/2 ts Oregano; crumbled
    1/2 ts Basil; crumbled
    1/4 ts Thyme; crumbled
    1/4 ts Marjoram; crumbled
    1/4 ts Fresh ground pepper
    1 cl Garlic; crushed
    2 c Med. pasta shells
    Parmesan cheese

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    If you have an ARBY'S near you I can reccomend, most heartily, their
    (probably limited time) pecan chicken salad sandwich. I got one the
    other night on the way home from work - did not need fries or anything
    else other than a drink for a hearty meal. You would probably make two
    meals from it. Or split it with Steve. Arby's put a plastic knife in my
    to-go bag for just that purpose. I fooled them and didn't use it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Chicken Salad
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Dairy, Citrus, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 c Cooked chicken; cut up
    1/4 c + 2 tb dairy sour cream
    1/4 c + 2 tb mayonnaise
    1/4 c Carrot; fine chopped
    2 tb Cilantro; fine snipped
    2 tb Capers (opt)
    2 tb Canned pimentos; chopped
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    2 tb Lime juice
    1/2 ts Cumin; ground
    1/2 ts Oregano leaves; dried
    1/2 c Onion; chopped
    1/2 c Diced celery
    1 Avocado; peeled, in wedges
    - (opt)

    Toss all ingredients except avocado and paprika.

    Use to stuff melons, tomatoes or make sandwiches.

    If making sandwiches lettuce leaves are recommended.
    And coarse toasted bread or croissants.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jun 7 14:01:54 2023
    Hi Dave,

    portable, OTOH weighs about 10 pounds and is about the size of a small ladies purse .... 11 inches by 3 inches by 7 inches. At 2 litres per minute the battery is good (they claim in the instructions) for 8
    hours.

    I understand that's only good for bursts, not continuous use. I need
    the continuous use, only when sleeping, so have to go with the bigger unit. I didn't try to use it in flight, tho it was theoretically
    possible.

    8 hours @ 2 litres per minute is a loooooooooooong nap. Bv)=

    Longer than any of our flights on this last trip. We flew from Raleigh
    to Toronto, Toronto to Vancouver, BC on the way out. On the way home we
    went from Fairbanks to Seattle to DFW to Raleigh. Had my first Wendy's
    burger in years in Seattle, about the best I can say for it is that it
    gave me some nutrition. We didn't have a lot of time between flights so
    grabbed a meal there and took it to the gate to eat.


    Apparently that was not an Amtrak train. Their "dining"
    facilities/food is an obscene joke .... IMO. Like airline snacks on a short flight.

    Air Canada gave us cookies, Alaska Air gave us cookies and pretzels.
    Don't recall what American (last leg) gave us but in flight food service
    is almost non exsistent any more.

    No, not Amtrak but Alaska Railroads. Don't know how profitable it
    is RH> but it works with cruise lines. We were seated in a domed
    observation RH> car but Steve wandered over to the more open car for
    pictures.

    They're making money or they wouldn't be doing it.

    They're probably making most of their money working with the cruise
    ships. Even on land, the cruise companies have major facilities--we
    stayed in cruise line name accomodations in both Denali and Fairbanks.

    I looked up the recipe - and did not see rice mentioned anywhere. Must have had to watch the actual TVFN show for that. Bv)=

    It was included in the packaging with the duck, don't remember if it
    was a part of the original recipe or not. We had cable (including Food Network) tv while in HI; that was when I tried the recipe.

    OK. Fair enuf.

    It's been a few years but I still have the recipe floating around, may
    give it another try at some point.


    Chard and kale are not high on my list of preferred greenery to cook
    with. Like Popeye, I likes me spinach. Even the canned stuff.

    I like most greens in various degrees, chard better than kale but not
    as good as spinach. Collards are good too, if cooked long enough. I
    prefer fresh greens, will go with frozen if needs be but canned ones
    are way too mushy for me. As a side, I'll usually sprinkle some pepper vinegar on them (typical southern) tho balsamic works good with some of them also.

    How about dandelion greena. I like them pretty well so long as they're
    not too "mature" (tough and bitter).

    I've only had them once, thought they were ok. Big thing is, trying to
    get them before the flower comes out. It's early in the year here so I'm
    not always thinking about catching it--until too late.


    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings


    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    If you have an ARBY'S near you I can reccomend, most heartily, their (probably limited time) pecan chicken salad sandwich. I got one the
    other night on the way home from work - did not need fries or anything else other than a drink for a hearty meal. You would probably make two meals from it. Or split it with Steve. Arby's put a plastic knife in
    my to-go bag for just that purpose. I fooled them and didn't use it.

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and
    fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jun 9 05:58:02 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    8 hours @ 2 litres per minute is a loooooooooooong nap. Bv)=

    Longer than any of our flights on this last trip. We flew from Raleigh
    to Toronto, Toronto to Vancouver, BC on the way out. On the way home we went from Fairbanks to Seattle to DFW to Raleigh. Had my first Wendy's burger in years in Seattle, about the best I can say for it is that it gave me some nutrition. We didn't have a lot of time between flights so grabbed a meal there and took it to the gate to eat.

    Wendy's main claim to being "different" is "Fresh, never frozen" beef.
    Their secondary is the square hamburger patties. Of the fats food burgers
    they are #2 in my area (of those I have tried) with Mickey D's and Burger
    Whop under them and Hardee's on top. We have several Sonic stores but I
    have yet to inflict one of them on my taste buds. Too much schtick and gimmickry - to the point that my mind asks "What are they trying to hide
    with all of this window dressing?"

    Apparently that was not an Amtrak train. Their "dining"
    facilities/food is an obscene joke .... IMO. Like airline snacks
    on a short flight.

    Air Canada gave us cookies, Alaska Air gave us cookies and pretzels.
    Don't recall what American (last leg) gave us but in flight food
    service is almost non exsistent any more.

    It's been years since I flew anywhere. My last airline experience was
    to SEA-TAC for the Seattle picnic that Hap Newsom threw - last century.

    No, not Amtrak but Alaska Railroads. Don't know how profitable it
    is RH> but it works with cruise lines. We were seated in a domed
    observation RH> car but Steve wandered over to the more open car for
    pictures.

    They're making money or they wouldn't be doing it.

    They're probably making most of their money working with the cruise
    ships. Even on land, the cruise companies have major facilities--we
    stayed in cruise line name accomodations in both Denali and Fairbanks.

    That as well. But, profits/bottom line are the proximate reason for the existence of that railroad.

    8<----- EDIT ----->B

    How about dandelion greena. I like them pretty well so long as they're
    not too "mature" (tough and bitter).

    I've only had them once, thought they were ok. Big thing is, trying to
    get them before the flower comes out. It's early in the year here so
    I'm not always thinking about catching it--until too late.

    The leaves and crowns are loaded with vitamin A, vitamin K, and healthy
    doses of potassium, calcium, vitamin C, iron, vitamin B6 and magnesium.

    If your greens are too bitter you can compensate for this by soaking
    them in a couple of changes of cold water, or saute them with garlic
    or other aromatics. Or cook them with bacon.

    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    If you have an ARBY'S near you I can reccomend, most heartily, their (probably limited time) pecan chicken salad sandwich. I got one the
    other night on the way home from work - did not need fries or anything else other than a drink for a hearty meal. You would probably make two meals from it. Or split it with Steve. Arby's put a plastic knife in
    my to-go bag for just that purpose. I fooled them and didn't use it.

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.

    I'm going to try this next spring ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Deep-Fried Dandelions
    Categories: Vegetables, Curry, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    30 Dandelion flowers
    1 c A-P flour
    1 ts Curry powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 lg Egg
    1/2 c Lager-style beer; as needed
    2 c Oil; for frying

    Wash dandelions under cool running water and dry on
    paper towels. Remove the green tendrils behind each
    flower.

    Mix flour, curry powder, and salt together in a bowl or
    measuring cup. Beat egg in a bowl; stir in flour mixture
    until smooth. Add beer to mixture until batter is
    similar to runny pancake batter. Add more beer if batter
    is too thick.

    Heat oil in a small saucepan to 375ºF/190ºC. If you
    don't have a thermometer, heat the oil until it begins
    to shimmer.

    Dip dandelion flowers in the batter and gently drop in
    the hot oil, working in batches. Fry flowers until
    golden, about 3 minutes. Transfer cooked flowers to
    crumpled paper towels or on a wire rack; serve warm.

    COOK'S NOTE: This recipe makes enough batter for more
    dandelions, or it also works well for onion rings.

    By Leslie Kelly

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.allrecipes.com

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 10 00:03:06 2023
    On 06-09-23 05:58, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Re: Travelling <=-

    They're making money or they wouldn't be doing it.

    They're probably making most of their money working with the cruise
    ships. Even on land, the cruise companies have major facilities--we
    stayed in cruise line name accomodations in both Denali and Fairbanks.

    That as well. But, profits/bottom line are the proximate reason for
    the existence of that railroad.

    But, not necessarily profits for the railroad. Since it is probably
    part of the cruise line empire, one has to consider how much cruise
    business does that railroad bring into them -- even if it is a loss
    leader.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: One Pan Pasta and Frozen Meatballs
    Categories: Tested, Easy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/8 c Water
    3 c Pasta sauce (any flavor)
    1 1/2 c Elbow macaroni - uncooked
    24 ea Frozen/cooked meatballs
    (1 inch size)
    1/4 c Grated parmesan cheese

    In 10 inch skillet, heat water and pasta sauce to boiling. Stir in
    macaroni, meatballs. Return to boiling.

    Reduce heat to medium and cover. Cook 15 to 20 minutes stirring
    occasionally until macaroni is tender. Sprinkle with cheese and
    serve.

    Microwaves okay for another meal. Added more cheese.

    Tested 1/11/08

    Variation of recipe from Bettycrocker.com.

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jun 10 05:32:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    They're making money or they wouldn't be doing it.

    They're probably making most of their money working with the cruise
    ships. Even on land, the cruise companies have major facilities--we
    stayed in cruise line name accomodations in both Denali and Fairbanks.

    That as well. But, profits/bottom line are the proximate reason for
    the existence of that railroad.

    But, not necessarily profits for the railroad. Since it is probably
    part of the cruise line empire, one has to consider how much cruise business does that railroad bring into them -- even if it is a loss leader.

    That's true. They're likely all under the same umbrella. Bean counters
    being what they are would axe the railroad(s) if they showed an overall
    loss. Bookkeepers hate red ink. Bv)=

    I am a life member of the Monticello and Sangamon Valley Railway Historical Society which operates with both restored steam and antique diesel power.

    There has been talk of expanding the current pair of "dinner train" runs
    beyond the murder-mystery train and the Valentine's special. I'm of the faction that's in favour. I generally get at least one dinner train ride
    in each year. This summer I'm trekking to Bardstown, KY for a ride and
    a nosh on My Old Kentucky Dinner Train. I'm checking to see if they
    offer a kosher menu so I can include my friends Les and Sara in the deal.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Railroad Pie
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Breads. Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Ground beef
    1/2 c Chopped bell pepper
    1/2 c Chopped onion
    14 oz Can Yellow sweet corn;
    - drained
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes w/chilies
    - drained
    1 c Dairy sour cream
    1 tb Chilli spice mix
    12 oz Box cornbread mix
    8 oz Shredded Cheddar cheese

    In a large skillet, brown the ground beef, adding the
    peppers and onions. When done, drain, and return to
    skillet. Stir in the corn, tomatoes, sour cream, and
    chilli spice. In another bowl prepare the cornbread mix
    following directions on the package.

    Pour beef mixture into a 9" X 13" baking dish. Spoon
    cornbread batter evenly over the top. Evenly spread the
    cheddar cheese over the batter and bake following the
    directions on the cornbread mix until cornbread is done
    and top is lightly brown.

    Recipe by: Peggy Short, Doran, Virginia

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jun 9 16:20:42 2023
    Hi Dave,


    8 hours @ 2 litres per minute is a loooooooooooong nap. Bv)=

    Longer than any of our flights on this last trip. We flew from Raleigh
    to Toronto, Toronto to Vancouver, BC on the way out. On the way home we went from Fairbanks to Seattle to DFW to Raleigh. Had my first Wendy's burger in years in Seattle, about the best I can say for it is that it gave me some nutrition. We didn't have a lot of time between flights so grabbed a meal there and took it to the gate to eat.

    Wendy's main claim to being "different" is "Fresh, never frozen" beef. Their secondary is the square hamburger patties. Of the fats food

    Yes, I remember watching them being assembled after we ordered when they
    first came out. IIRC, we had our first Wendy's meals in Jacksonville, NC
    around 1977. They never were our "go to" place for burgers; this was the
    first time in probably 10 or more years we'd had anything from them.


    burgers they are #2 in my area (of those I have tried) with Mickey D's
    and Burger Whop under them and Hardee's on top. We have several Sonic stores but I have yet to inflict one of them on my taste buds. Too
    much schtick and
    gimmickry - to the point that my mind asks "What are they trying to
    hide with all of this window dressing?"

    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a
    Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.


    Apparently that was not an Amtrak train. Their "dining"
    facilities/food is an obscene joke .... IMO. Like airline snacks
    on a short flight.

    Air Canada gave us cookies, Alaska Air gave us cookies and pretzels.
    Don't recall what American (last leg) gave us but in flight food
    service is almost non exsistent any more.

    It's been years since I flew anywhere. My last airline experience was
    to SEA-TAC for the Seattle picnic that Hap Newsom threw - last
    century.

    We've not done a lot of flying; last fall was the first time in about 5
    years. Otherwise, we hitch up the camper and head out. As Steve says,
    "we get to sleep in our own bed" that way. (G)


    No, not Amtrak but Alaska Railroads. Don't know how profitable it
    is RH> but it works with cruise lines. We were seated in a domed
    observation RH> car but Steve wandered over to the more open car for
    pictures.

    They're making money or they wouldn't be doing it.

    They're probably making most of their money working with the cruise
    ships. Even on land, the cruise companies have major facilities--we
    stayed in cruise line name accomodations in both Denali and Fairbanks.

    That as well. But, profits/bottom line are the proximate reason for
    the existence of that railroad.

    True. I think you would have enjoyed the trip; we didn't see nearly the wildlife some of the others saw but the scenery (once we got out of the
    foggy coastal area) was interesting.

    8<----- EDIT ----->B

    How about dandelion greena. I like them pretty well so long as they're
    not too "mature" (tough and bitter).

    I've only had them once, thought they were ok. Big thing is, trying to
    get them before the flower comes out. It's early in the year here so
    I'm not always thinking about catching it--until too late.

    The leaves and crowns are loaded with vitamin A, vitamin K, and
    healthy doses of potassium, calcium, vitamin C, iron, vitamin B6 and magnesium.

    Spring tonic.


    If your greens are too bitter you can compensate for this by soaking
    them in a couple of changes of cold water, or saute them with garlic
    or other aromatics. Or cook them with bacon.

    Do a hot bacon dressing, wilt them and serve over mashed potatoes. One
    of our favorite ways to do leaf lettuce in the spring.


    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    If you have an ARBY'S near you I can reccomend, most heartily, their (probably limited time) pecan chicken salad sandwich. I got one the
    other night on the way home from work - did not need fries or anything else other than a drink for a hearty meal. You would probably make two meals from it. Or split it with Steve. Arby's put a plastic knife in
    my to-go bag for just that purpose. I fooled them and didn't use it.

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.

    I'm going to try this next spring ....


    Title: Deep-Fried Dandelions
    Categories: Vegetables, Curry, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'll pass, we don't like beer, either as a drink or an ingredient.

    ---
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sat Jun 10 16:49:04 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    We have several Sonic
    stores but I have yet to inflict one of them on my taste buds. Too much schtick and gimmickry - to the point that my mind asks "What are they trying to hide with all of this window dressing?"

    Sonic actually has pretty good food and great deals via their app. I especially like their Fritos Pie wraps. Their cherry limeade drink is a favorite too. Their breakfast offerings are a favorite. It's still fast
    food but it's good and filling and that's what counts in my book.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Creamy Tater Soup
    Categories: Low-fat, Lunch, Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 c Defatted chicken broth
    1 c Chopped onion
    3 c Chopped celery, including
    - leaves
    2 ea Small potatoes, peeled &
    - cubed
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 ds Cayenne pepper
    1 c Low-fat milk

    1. In large saucepan, combine all ingredients except milk. Cook until
    vegetables are very tender, about 10 minutes. Cool slightly. 2.
    Transfer to blender and blend until smooth. Stir in milk. 3. At this
    point, may be stored in refrigerator up to 1-week. 4. Heat before
    serving.

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 10 16:54:06 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.

    My new favorite chicken sandwich is Bojangle's grilled chicken. Easy to
    gum and quite tender and juicy. I admit to having a soft spot for Burger King's original chicken sandwich...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grilled Chicken-Potato Salad
    Categories: Chicken, Luncheon, Salads, Weight watc
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Skinned and boned chicken
    -breasts
    Nonstick cooking spray
    3 c Peeled red potato; 1 inch
    -cubes
    1/4 c Light mayonnaise
    1/4 c Plain low-fat yogurt
    2 tb Chopped fresh tarragon
    1 tb Fresh lemon juice
    1 ts Paprika
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 c Sliced yellow onion;
    -vertically sliced
    Tarragon sprigs; optional

    1. Prepare grill. Place chicken on grill rack coated with cooking
    spray; grill 5 minutes on each side. Cut chicken into 1-inch pieces;
    set aside.

    2. Place potato in a medium saucepan; add water to cover. Bring to a
    boil; cover. Reduce heat, and simmer 10 minutes or until tender.
    Drain and set aside.

    3. Combine mayonnaise and next 6 ingredients in a large bowl; stir
    well. Add chicken, potato, and onion; toss gently to coat. Serve
    warm. Garnish with tarragon sprigs, if desired.

    Yield: 6 servings (serving size: 1 cup).

    Selections: 3 P/M, 1 B, 1 FA.

    Per serving: Calories 277 (17 % from fat); Protein 28.8 g; fat 4.3 g
    (sat 0.4 g); Carbohydrates 17.4 g; Fiber 1.7 g; Cholesterol 69 mg;
    Iron 1.7 mg; Sodium
    356 mg; Calcium 48 mg.

    Recipe by: Weight Watchers Magazine, Jul/Aug 1997, page 75

    Posted to recipelu-digest Volume 01 Number 627 by RecipeLu
    <recipelu@geocities.com> on Jan 29, 1998

    MMMMM

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 11 00:12:02 2023
    On 06-10-23 05:32, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Travelling <=-

    But, not necessarily profits for the railroad. Since it is probably
    part of the cruise line empire, one has to consider how much cruise business does that railroad bring into them -- even if it is a loss leader.

    That's true. They're likely all under the same umbrella. Bean counters being what they are would axe the railroad(s) if they showed an
    overall loss. Bookkeepers hate red ink. Bv)=

    That would be a case of book keepers cutting off a nose to spite the
    face. People take the cruise line trip precisely so that they can also
    package in the scenic train ride to Denali. Cut the trail ride, and the
    cruise line loses customers.

    I am a life member of the Monticello and Sangamon Valley Railway Historical Society which operates with both restored steam and antique diesel power.

    We used to travel with a group now called Country Traveler Discovers.
    They did a tour to Alaska that included two different train segments.
    We also once did one that was West Virginia Steam Engines. Looking at
    their current web site, that does not seem to be available anymore, but
    you might enjoy looking at their booking (including multiple pictures)
    for a train trip in Colorado.

    Link for that one is:

    https://www.countrytraveldiscoveries.com/destinations/colorados-vintage-railways-2023


    There has been talk of expanding the current pair of "dinner train"
    runs beyond the murder-mystery train and the Valentine's special. I'm
    of the faction that's in favour. I generally get at least one dinner train ride in each year. This summer I'm trekking to Bardstown, KY for
    a ride and a nosh on My Old Kentucky Dinner Train. I'm checking to see
    if they offer a kosher menu so I can include my friends Les and Sara in the deal.

    They might be able to include a "kosher style" menu, but I would doubt
    that they would have a meat entree that is really kosher. Depends on
    how orthodox your friends are. If nothing else, they could easily
    satisfy kosher requirements using seafood such as salmon with scales and
    fins, or by going vegetarian.



    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Creamed Chicken(Turkey) corn soup
    Categories: Crockpot
    Yield: 4 Servings

    12 oz Leftover chicken or turkey
    1 cn Cream of chicken soup
    8 1/2 oz Cream style corn
    7 oz Chicken broth
    1/2 c Chopped carrot
    1/2 c Finely chopped onion
    1/4 c Chopped celery
    1/2 c Frozen whole kernel corn
    1/4 c More chicken broth (Omit)
    2 tb Instant potatoes (maybe)

    In 3 1/2 quart slow cooker combine soup, corn, broth, chopped
    vegetables and frozen corn.

    Cover and cook on low for 5 - 6 hours on low (High for 2 1/2 - 3
    Hours)

    If using leftover already cooked poultry, cube meat into 1 inch cubes
    and add to soup the last half hour.

    If soup is too thin - add more instant potatoes to see if the soup
    will thicken as much as you want.

    I used bacos as a garnish.

    This recipe was half of the original recipe. Made 4 good sized
    servings.

    Needed some salt and pepper. Maybe a sprinkle of cheddar cheese
    along with the bacos as a garnish.

    Variation of recipe from bgh recipes.

    This is a nice use for leftover poultry. If you wanted to start with
    fresh poultry - it should be added at the very beginning, cooked until
    done, cooled, cubed and placed back in to the soup.

    I will make this again.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jun 11 05:09:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We have several Sonic
    stores but I have yet to inflict one of them on my taste buds. Too much schtick and gimmickry - to the point that my mind asks "What are they trying to hide with all of this window dressing?"

    Sonic actually has pretty good food and great deals via their app. I especially like their Fritos Pie wraps. Their cherry limeade drink is
    a favorite too. Their breakfast offerings are a favorite. It's still fast food but it's good and filling and that's what counts in my book.

    Nothing wrong with fats food. If it's tasty and quick and bargain priced
    I'm all in favour of it. Hardee's biscuits or their Frisco breakfast
    sandwich are my #1, Wendy's has a decent breakfast and if I'm working
    the morning shift at the Zone there is a pair of McDucks on my usual
    route to work - so I'll get a pair of sausage-egg McMuffins and bang
    those down whilst en route. That generally carries me through until I
    can get a real lunch. Bv)= The main thing I like about Mickey D's is
    their use of real eggs, freshly cracked rather than the pre-mixed egg
    "batter" that Burger Whop, Hardee's, and Wendy's all use.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Mcmuffins

    4 tb Softened butter; divided use
    4 English muffins
    1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    +=OR=+
    4 Bob Evans' sausage patties
    1/2 c Water
    4 sl American cheese

    Divide sausage into four patties. Press out patties
    fairly thin. Cook sausage patties over medium heat in a
    skillet for 3 to 4 minutes on each side, drain on paper
    towels.

    Split open English Muffins and place them into a
    toaster, toast the English Muffins.

    Remove the English muffins from the toaster and spread
    softened butter on both halves.

    Place the 1 slice of cooked sausage on each English
    muffin bottom.

    Add about 1 tablespoon of butter to the same skillet
    where you cooked the sausage.

    Place the quart-sized canning lids screw side up (or you
    can use an egg ring) into the skillet.

    Spray the canning lid with non-stick spray. Crack an egg
    into each of the rings.

    Break the yolk with a folk. Pour about 1/2 cup of water
    into the skillet, and place a lid on top. Cook until the
    eggs are set, it should take about two minutes.

    Gently remove the eggs from the rings, and place one egg
    on each piece of cooked sausage.

    Top each egg with one slice of American cheese, top
    cheese with the top of the English muffin.

    Wrap each egg McMuffin with foil or parchment paper.
    Wait about 30 seconds before serving.

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Dale Shipp on Sun Jun 11 05:33:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    But, not necessarily profits for the railroad. Since it is probably
    part of the cruise line empire, one has to consider how much cruise business does that railroad bring into them -- even if it is a loss leader.

    That's true. They're likely all under the same umbrella. Bean counters being what they are would axe the railroad(s) if they showed an
    overall loss. Bookkeepers hate red ink. Bv)=

    That would be a case of book keepers cutting off a nose to spite the
    face. People take the cruise line trip precisely so that they can also package in the scenic train ride to Denali. Cut the trail ride, and
    the cruise line loses customers.

    True dat.

    I am a life member of the Monticello and Sangamon Valley Railway Historical Society which operates with both restored steam and antique diesel power.

    We used to travel with a group now called Country Traveler Discovers.
    They did a tour to Alaska that included two different train segments.
    We also once did one that was West Virginia Steam Engines. Looking at their current web site, that does not seem to be available anymore, but you might enjoy looking at their booking (including multiple pictures)
    for a train trip in Colorado.

    Link for that one is:

    https://www.countrytraveldiscoveries.com/destinations/colorados-vintage- railways-2023

    I'd likely choke on the "Starting at $2,297" part. I have done the dinner
    train excursion on the Cumbres & Toltec narrow gauge line in southern Colorado/northern New Mexico. (Antonito, CO to Chama, NM)

    https://cumbrestoltec.com

    There has been talk of expanding the current pair of "dinner train"
    runs beyond the murder-mystery train and the Valentine's special. I'm
    of the faction that's in favour. I generally get at least one dinner train ride in each year. This summer I'm trekking to Bardstown, KY for
    a ride and a nosh on My Old Kentucky Dinner Train. I'm checking to see
    if they offer a kosher menu so I can include my friends Les and Sara in the deal.

    They might be able to include a "kosher style" menu, but I would doubt that they would have a meat entree that is really kosher. Depends on
    how orthodox your friends are. If nothing else, they could easily
    satisfy kosher requirements using seafood such as salmon with scales
    and fins, or by going vegetarian.

    Les' version of kosher is "don't serve the Rabbi pork." Sara, OTOH, keeps
    a kosher kitchen with two sets of dishes and cookware. Les has had to get replacement appliances (stove, reefer and dishwasher) as the current ones
    could not be certified "kosher". And he's had to set up a separate kitchen
    in the basement for making his chilli. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Kosher Chilli Dogs
    Categories: Sandwiches, Snacks, Beef, Chilli
    Yield: 6 Servings

    6 Kosher frankfurters
    1/2 lb Hamburger
    2 tb Oil
    1 md Onion; chopped fine
    15 oz Can Bush's chilli beans; opt
    8 oz Can tomato sauce; El Pato
    - preferred or Snap-E-Tom
    1 1/2 ts Chilli spice; McCormicks

    MMMMM-------------------------GARNISHES------------------------------
    1 md Yellow onion; diced
    Yellow (French's) mustard

    Brown hamburger in heavy skillet. Add onion and garlic;
    cook until onion is tender. Add remaining ingredients
    and simmer about 15 min. Preheat frankfurters and buns.
    Place franks in buns; top with sauce.

    Sprinkle chopped onions over top. Use yellow mustard if
    desired. Some like cheese on their chilli dogs. But, if
    you use cheese then the sandwich is no longer kosher.

    Serves 6

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jun 11 05:52:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Wendy's main claim to being "different" is "Fresh, never frozen" beef. Their secondary is the square hamburger patties. Of the fats food

    Yes, I remember watching them being assembled after we ordered when
    they first came out. IIRC, we had our first Wendy's meals in
    Jacksonville, NC around 1977. They never were our "go to" place for burgers; this was the first time in probably 10 or more years we'd had anything from them.

    They never were my "go-to" either. One thing I used to like was that I
    could get a baked potato instead of fries for my potato choice. Now the
    "baker" is priced with the large fries - so it's an "upcharge" in a
    combo meal. And it's definitely not finger food.

    burgers they are #2 in my area (of those I have tried) with Mickey D's
    and Burger Whop under them and Hardee's on top. We have several Sonic stores but I have yet to inflict one of them on my taste buds. Too
    much schtick and
    gimmickry - to the point that my mind asks "What are they trying to
    hide with all of this window dressing?"

    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.

    Never had Wendy's chicken. I sort of like/can live with Burger King's
    current chicken sandwich, and actively like Hardee's and Popeyes -
    which regularly wins "taste-off" comparisons. And they now have a
    "blackened" version which is with no breading and quite nice.

    Mickey D's fancy chicken sandwich pertty well sucks rocks IMO. But, the McChicken (regular or spicy) is decent filler for the $$$.

    8<----- EDIT ----->B

    How about dandelion greena. I like them pretty well so long as they're
    not too "mature" (tough and bitter).

    I've only had them once, thought they were ok. Big thing is, trying to
    get them before the flower comes out. It's early in the year here so
    I'm not always thinking about catching it--until too late.

    The leaves and crowns are loaded with vitamin A, vitamin K, and
    healthy doses of potassium, calcium, vitamin C, iron, vitamin B6 and magnesium.

    Spring tonic.

    My grandmother used to make a spring tonic based on cod liver oil, sulphur
    and molasses. If cleaning out your digestive tract is a "tonic" then it worked. Bv)=

    If your greens are too bitter you can compensate for this by soaking
    them in a couple of changes of cold water, or saute them with garlic
    or other aromatics. Or cook them with bacon.

    Do a hot bacon dressing, wilt them and serve over mashed potatoes. One
    of our favorite ways to do leaf lettuce in the spring.

    Wilted lettuce has long been a favourite .... from the same grandmother
    who fed us the spring tonic. Hot bacon dressing is a great goodness.

    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    If you have an ARBY'S near you I can reccomend, most heartily, their (probably limited time) pecan chicken salad sandwich. I got one the
    other night on the way home from work - did not need fries or anything else other than a drink for a hearty meal. You would probably make two meals from it. Or split it with Steve. Arby's put a plastic knife in
    my to-go bag for just that purpose. I fooled them and didn't use it.

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.

    I'm going to try this next spring ....

    Title: Deep-Fried Dandelions
    Categories: Vegetables, Curry, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'll pass, we don't like beer, either as a drink or an ingredient.

    I'm not a fan of beer as an ingredient. And only as a beverage on some
    social occasions. If I ever make the deep-fried dandy lions I'll likely
    use my (previously posted - several times) "Dirty Dave's Sort-Of Tempura Battter" which uses club soda for the liquid.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: "Y'all Come Back" Wilted Lettuce Dressing
    Categories: Pork, Salads, Dairy, Greens
    Yield: 3 Servings

    1 lb Greens
    4 sl Bacon
    3 tb Vinegar
    2 tb Sour cream
    1 ts Flour
    1 lg Egg
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 tb Sugar

    Wash and dry greens.

    Render the bacon until nicely crisped. Remove and
    reserve. And add the vinegar and sour cream to the
    bacon fat in the skillet. Mix one tsp flour and one
    egg together, and stir into bacon fat mixture. Add
    a 1/2 tsp salt and one tsp sugar. When this is hot
    pour it over greens and add crumbled bacon.

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jun 11 05:57:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.

    My new favorite chicken sandwich is Bojangle's grilled chicken. Easy
    to gum and quite tender and juicy. I admit to having a soft spot for Burger King's original chicken sandwich...

    I tried one of Burger Whop's "new" chicken sandwiches. I was *not* all
    that impressed. It's edible and that's abour it. I can't recall if I
    ever tried their original chicken sarnie. My favourite chicken sandwich
    is Popeyes blackened (no breading) chicken sandwich.

    Back in the 1970s when I was running the print-shop for the Illinois
    Department of Agriculture we would regularly work through our lunch
    hour on Fridays as we were publishing the "Market News" newsletter that
    had to be typeset, printed, bound and addressed in time for the Central Management Services mail-run at 16:00.

    Our usual lunch was one of the crew would visit either the mom & pop
    Italian joint nearby for Italian beef po' boys or Burger King for their original "Whaler" (fish) sandwich. Yuuuuuuummmmmm. The current BK fish
    sandwich is an (obscene) joke in comparison.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Whaler w/Ho-made Tartar Sauce
    Categories: Seafood, Cheese, Sauces, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 1 Sandwich

    MMMMM---------------------FRESH TARTAR SAUCE--------------------------
    1 c Real Mayonnaise
    1 c Fine chopped dill pickles
    1 tb Fresh dill; chopped
    1 ts Lemon juice
    1/2 ts Granulated garlic
    1/4 ts Worcestershire sauce
    1/2 ts Fresh ground black pepper

    MMMMM--------------------------SANDWICH-------------------------------
    6 oz Pollock fillet; battered,
    - deep fried
    1 (6")soft, seeded potato bun;
    - grilled or toasted
    1 sl Cheese; American or sharp
    - cheddar
    Shredded iceberg lettuce
    Tartar sauce

    Mix all the ingredients for the tartar sauce and place
    it in a mason jar store until ready to use.

    Deep fry the fish.

    Note: For the original taste deep fry the fish in oil,
    however, if you're counting calories bake it or air fry
    your fish.

    SANDWICH ASSEMBLY: Optional: Grill the bun, first.

    First place lettuce on one side, hot fish on the other
    half with cheese on top.

    Add a dollop of tartar sauce.

    Place the top and bottom together.

    Serve with fries.

    Yield: 1 sandwich

    Author: Claudia Lamascolo

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.whatscookinitalianstylecuisine.com

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 11 11:34:08 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Nothing wrong with fats food. If it's tasty and quick and bargain
    priced I'm all in favour of it. Hardee's biscuits or their Frisco breakfast sandwich are my #1, Wendy's has a decent breakfast and if I'm working the morning shift at the Zone there is a pair of McDucks on my usual route to work - so I'll get a pair of sausage-egg McMuffins and
    bang those down whilst en route. That generally carries me through
    until I can get a real lunch. Bv)= The main thing I like about Mickey
    D's is their use of real eggs, freshly cracked rather than the
    pre-mixed egg "batter" that Burger Whop, Hardee's, and Wendy's all use.

    I hate to break it to you (no pun intended) but except for the Egg McMuffin
    and the Sausage McMuffin with Egg, McDonald does indeed use the pre-mixed
    egg product. They use about 50-60 gallons of it a day when I used to work
    at McD's during breakfast. If you mean using real eggs on those sandwiches, yes, they wouldn't be the same with folded eggs!

    I love both the Sausage and the Sausage McMuffin with Egg but these days, I like Wendy's and Taco Bell's breakfasts if I actually get up early enough. Hardee's Frisco breakfast sandwich is great too but I do have a soft spot
    for BK's croissants. I like BK's breakfast sausage too. Taco Bell's
    breakfast is cheap, and for me, surprisingly good.

    I am one of those who loves breakfast any time of day so my opinions might
    be a bit biased. <G>

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Country Breakfast Casserole
    Categories: Breakfast, Casseroles
    Yield: 6 Servings

    12 oz Bulk pork sausage; mild or
    -spicy
    1/2 c Onions; finely chopped
    4 c Frozen hash browns; diced,
    -thawed
    1 1/2 c Colby/Monterey Jack cheese
    --shredded
    3 Eggs; beaten
    1 c Milk
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    Salsa

    Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. In a large skillet, cook the
    sausage and onions until no pink remains; drain. In an 8-inch square
    baking dish, layer the potatoes, half of the cheese, the
    sausage-onion mixture and the remaining cheese. In a bowl, combine
    the eggs, milk and pepper; pour over the cheese. At this point, the
    casserole may be covered and chilled overnight. Bake, covered, for
    50 to 55 minutes, or until a knife inserted near the center comes out
    clean. Transfer to a wire rack. Let stand for 10 minutes. Cut into
    squares. Pass the salsa. Recipe From: The Knollwood House bed and
    breakfast in River Falls, Wisconsin. Penny Halsey (ATBN65B). Posted
    to EAT-L Digest 14 Sep 96

    Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:10:57 -0500

    From: "hassell@eecs.tulane.edu" <hassell@EECS.TULANE.EDU>

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 11 11:40:10 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Our usual lunch was one of the crew would visit either the mom & pop Italian joint nearby for Italian beef po' boys or Burger King for their original "Whaler" (fish) sandwich. Yuuuuuuummmmmm. The current BK fish sandwich is an (obscene) joke in comparison.

    I remember the original Whaler (or whatever it was in the very early 80s)
    well. I agree that their current fish sandwich is a pale comparison even to their fish sandwich to a decade ago. Same with Arby's fish sandwich. Now
    BK's original sandwich is a semi-chopped fish patty but it is juicy and has somewhat of a decent texture and taste. I don't claim to be a bon vivant
    when it comes to food but I like to think I have somewhat of a decent tawte,
    if you will.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crunchy Brunch Egg Casserole
    Categories: Breakfast, Casseroles
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 c Seasoned croutons
    4 oz Cheddar cheese; shredded
    4 Eggs; slightly beaten
    2 c Milk
    1/2 ts Prepared mustard
    Bacon; crisp and crumbled

    In bottom of buttered Pyrex dish, combine croutons and cheese. Mix
    remaining ingredients, except bacon, and pour over crouton/cheese
    mixture. Sprinkle bacon crumbles on top. (May be prepared in advance
    or overnight.) Bake 1 hour at 325 degrees. 6 servings. Posted to
    MC-Recipe Digest V1 #985 by "M. Hicks" <nitro_ii@email.msn.com> on
    Jan 5, 1998

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jun 11 19:36:15 2023
    Hi Sean,


    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.

    My new favorite chicken sandwich is Bojangle's grilled chicken. Easy

    I prefer Chick-Fil-A, original--just the chicken, pickles, bun and a
    smear of mayo. The past few years tho, I've skipped the bun (gone for
    strips instead) and asked for a side of pickles. Most places are willing
    to give me a cup with (vaying amounts) of pickles, mostly free but occaisionally a minimal charge.


    to gum and quite tender and juicy. I admit to having a soft spot for Burger King's original chicken sandwich...

    I like them too, but they're few and far between these days.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jun 11 20:00:10 2023
    Hi Dave,


    Wendy's main claim to being "different" is "Fresh, never frozen" beef. Their secondary is the square hamburger patties. Of the fats food

    Yes, I remember watching them being assembled after we ordered when
    they first came out. IIRC, we had our first Wendy's meals in
    Jacksonville, NC around 1977. They never were our "go to" place for burgers; this was the first time in probably 10 or more years we'd had anything from them.

    They never were my "go-to" either. One thing I used to like was that I could get a baked potato instead of fries for my potato choice. Now
    the "baker" is priced with the large fries - so it's an "upcharge" in
    a
    combo meal. And it's definitely not finger food.

    The airport branch had a very limited menu so baked potatoes weren't an
    option for us. They had big signage for their strawberry frosty so we
    each got one of those--big mistake in hindsight. Yes, it was caffeine
    free but bright pink, very little strawberry flavor. Best that could be
    said about it was that it helped wash down the cheeseburger (no regular
    burgers available). If I go years without going to Wendy's again, I'll
    be happy.

    burgers they are #2 in my area (of those I have tried) with Mickey
    D's DD> and Burger Whop under them and Hardee's on top. We have several
    Sonic DD> stores but I have yet to inflict one of them on my taste
    buds. Too DD> much schtick and DD> gimmickry - to the point that my
    mind asks "What are they trying to DD> hide with all of this window
    dressing?"

    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.

    Never had Wendy's chicken. I sort of like/can live with Burger King's current chicken sandwich, and actively like Hardee's and Popeyes -
    which regularly wins "taste-off" comparisons. And they now have a "blackened" version which is with no breading and quite nice.

    I've not tried the Popeye's sandwich, tho it does look good. Most often
    we'll hit up CFA, tho did get some strips from Zaxby's the other day
    just for something easy do with protein.

    Mickey D's fancy chicken sandwich pertty well sucks rocks IMO. But,
    the McChicken (regular or spicy) is decent filler for the $$$.

    OK, but still not as good as CFA. When McDs came out with the McC, we
    were in Savannah. Older daughter called & said "if you aren't near a
    CFA, these are almost as good" (she was out west, nowhere near a CFA).
    Told her we were 5 minutes from CFA. (G)


    8<----- EDIT ----->B

    The leaves and crowns are loaded with vitamin A, vitamin K, and
    healthy doses of potassium, calcium, vitamin C, iron, vitamin B6 and magnesium.

    Spring tonic.

    My grandmother used to make a spring tonic based on cod liver oil,
    sulphur and molasses. If cleaning out your digestive tract is a
    "tonic" then it worked. Bv)=

    That would clean out the tract quite well.


    If your greens are too bitter you can compensate for this by soaking
    them in a couple of changes of cold water, or saute them with garlic
    or other aromatics. Or cook them with bacon.

    Do a hot bacon dressing, wilt them and serve over mashed potatoes. One
    of our favorite ways to do leaf lettuce in the spring.

    Wilted lettuce has long been a favourite .... from the same
    grandmother who fed us the spring tonic. Hot bacon dressing is a great goodness.

    Never had it until I met Steve, now it's a regular for spring greens.


    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.

    I'm going to try this next spring ....

    Title: Deep-Fried Dandelions
    Categories: Vegetables, Curry, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'll pass, we don't like beer, either as a drink or an ingredient.

    I'm not a fan of beer as an ingredient. And only as a beverage on some social occasions. If I ever make the deep-fried dandy lions I'll
    likely use my (previously posted - several times) "Dirty Dave's
    Sort-Of Tempura Battter" which uses club soda for the liquid.

    That'll work. We're not doing a lot, but doing some cooking now.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 12 21:15:10 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I prefer Chick-Fil-A, original--just the chicken, pickles, bun and a
    smear of mayo. The past few years tho, I've skipped the bun (gone for strips instead) and asked for a side of pickles. Most places are
    willing to give me a cup with (vaying amounts) of pickles, mostly free
    but occaisionally a minimal charge.

    I like Chick-Fil-A also but with no teeth, a grilled chicken piece is much easier to eat. Can't eat pickles well right now.

    Speaking of teeth, since I cannot get dental insurance with no teeth, my parents have graciously offered to co-sign a loan to help me get dentures.
    I'm calling our local Affordable Dentures office tomorrow to make an appointment to find out how much it'll be for the whole shebang. I hate
    going into debt but for this, I'll make an exception.

    I like them too, but they're few and far between these days.

    I don't have them often these days since without a working vehicle, the
    nearest BK is six miles down the road for me.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mcdonald's Big Mac Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Beef, Copycat
    Yield: 2 Cups

    1 c Miracle Whip
    1/3 c Sweet relish
    1/4 c French dressing (orange not
    -red)
    1 tb Sugar
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 ts Minced onion

    Mix ingredients well. Posted to MM-Recipes Digest V3 #282.

    Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:25:01 -0400

    From: BobbieB1@aol.com

    MMMMM

    -- Sean
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    Title: Mcdonald's Big Mac Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Beef, Copycat
    Yield: 2 Cups

    1 c Miracle Whip
    1/3 c Sweet relish
    1/4 c French dressing (orange not
    -red)
    1 tb Sugar
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 ts Minced onion

    Mix ingredients well. Posted to MM-Recipes Digest V3 #282.

    Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:25:01 -0400

    From: BobbieB1@aol.com

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jun 13 05:05:02 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Wendy's main claim to being "different" is "Fresh, never frozen" beef. Their secondary is the square hamburger patties. Of the fats food

    Yes, I remember watching them being assembled after we ordered when
    they first came out. IIRC, we had our first Wendy's meals in
    Jacksonville, NC around 1977. They never were our "go to" place for burgers; this was the first time in probably 10 or more years we'd had anything from them.

    They never were my "go-to" either. One thing I used to like was that I could get a baked potato instead of fries for my potato choice. Now
    the "baker" is priced with the large fries - so it's an "upcharge" in
    a combo meal. And it's definitely not finger food.

    The airport branch had a very limited menu so baked potatoes weren't an option for us. They had big signage for their strawberry frosty so we
    each got one of those--big mistake in hindsight. Yes, it was caffeine
    free but bright pink, very little strawberry flavor. Best that could be said about it was that it helped wash down the cheeseburger (no regular burgers available). If I go years without going to Wendy's again, I'll
    be happy.

    Those (airport kiosks) are necessarily "limited menu" kinds of places.
    The regular stand-alone Wendy's will have the baked potato option and
    they are decent plus.

    burgers they are #2 in my area (of those I have tried) with Mickey
    D's and Burger Whop under them and Hardee's on top. We have several
    Sonic stores but I have yet to inflict one of them on my taste
    buds. Too much schtick and gimmickry - to the point that my mind
    asks "What are they trying to hide with all of this window dressing?"

    I'll usually order a chicken sandwich over a burger. Last time I got a Wendy's chicken, it was thinner'n a sheet of paper and tasted on the
    fishy side.

    Never had Wendy's chicken. I sort of like/can live with Burger King's current chicken sandwich, and actively like Hardee's and Popeyes -
    which regularly wins "taste-off" comparisons. And they now have a "blackened" version which is with no breading and quite nice.

    I've not tried the Popeye's sandwich, tho it does look good. Most often we'll hit up CFA, tho did get some strips from Zaxby's the other day
    just for something easy do with protein.

    Do yourself a favour and give Popeye's a try. But not on a Tuesday when
    the Tuesday Special of 2 pieces of dark meat is on sale at a bargain. And,
    they are now offering "blackened" chicken sandwiches without the breading.

    Mickey D's fancy chicken sandwich pertty well sucks rocks IMO. But,
    the McChicken (regular or spicy) is decent filler for the $$$.

    OK, but still not as good as CFA. When McDs came out with the McC, we
    were in Savannah. Older daughter called & said "if you aren't near a
    CFA, these are almost as good" (she was out west, nowhere near a CFA). Told her we were 5 minutes from CFA. (G)

    I used to get Chick Filly when they were in the mall location. Every time
    I pass by their stand-alone shop (adjacent outlot to the same mall) the
    lines of cars for the double drive-thru are stupid long. The franchisee is coining money - but I'll be blowed if I'll wait on line that long for
    anyone's food.

    8<----- EDIT ----->B

    The leaves and crowns are loaded with vitamin A, vitamin K, and
    healthy doses of potassium, calcium, vitamin C, iron, vitamin B6 and magnesium.

    Spring tonic.

    My grandmother used to make a spring tonic based on cod liver oil,
    sulphur and molasses. If cleaning out your digestive tract is a
    "tonic" then it worked. Bv)=

    That would clean out the tract quite well.

    Oh, it did that.

    If your greens are too bitter you can compensate for this by soaking
    them in a couple of changes of cold water, or saute them with garlic
    or other aromatics. Or cook them with bacon.

    Do a hot bacon dressing, wilt them and serve over mashed potatoes. One
    of our favorite ways to do leaf lettuce in the spring.

    Wilted lettuce has long been a favourite .... from the same
    grandmother who fed us the spring tonic. Hot bacon dressing is a great goodness.

    Never had it until I met Steve, now it's a regular for spring greens.

    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.

    I'm going to try this next spring ....

    Title: Deep-Fried Dandelions
    Categories: Vegetables, Curry, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'll pass, we don't like beer, either as a drink or an ingredient.

    I'm not a fan of beer as an ingredient. And only as a beverage on some social occasions. If I ever make the deep-fried dandy lions I'll
    likely use my (previously posted - several times) "Dirty Dave's
    Sort-Of Tempura Battter" which uses club soda for the liquid.

    That'll work. We're not doing a lot, but doing some cooking now.

    If my house-mate ate on the same schedule as I do I'd do more elabourate cooking. As it is I do things like this ....

    I have found that by leaving the cheese off until the dogs are ready to
    go in the bun I can do these in the microwave and put the cheese on top
    and let it melt there. I do them two at a time.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hawg-N-Dogs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 10 Servings

    10 Hot dogs
    2 sl Pepper Jack cheese
    10 sl Thick-cut bacon
    4 c Oil for deep frying
    10 Split hot dog buns

    SPECIAL EQUIPMENT: 20 toothpicks

    Slice each hot dog 3/4 of the way through lengthwise.
    Cut each slice of cheese into 5 strips, and insert 1
    strip of cheese into each hot dog. Wrap bacon snugly
    around each hot dog, securing each end with a toothpick.

    Preheat oil in a saucepan to 350ºF/175ºC.

    Carefully drop the hot dogs in the hot oil, and fry for
    1 to 2 minutes, or until bacon is brown and crispy.
    Remove from oil, and drain on paper towels. Remove and
    discard toothpicks.

    Serve on buns with your favorite condiments.

    Recipe by: Jackie Marie

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jun 13 11:58:36 2023
    Hi sean,


    I prefer Chick-Fil-A, original--just the chicken, pickles, bun and a
    smear of mayo. The past few years tho, I've skipped the bun (gone for strips instead) and asked for a side of pickles. Most places are
    willing to give me a cup with (vaying amounts) of pickles, mostly free
    but occaisionally a minimal charge.

    I like Chick-Fil-A also but with no teeth, a grilled chicken piece is
    much easier to eat. Can't eat pickles well right now.

    I understand. Saw you were talking with Dave about the McD's Filet
    O'Fish. I liked the fish, but not the cheese. Then, years (decades) ago
    when I was a Girl Scout troop leader, our troop toured a McD's.
    Afterwards, at the Q&A session, I asked if there was any way I could get
    the sandwich without cheese. I was told "yes, and they'll have to make
    it fresh so it'll always be hot". We don't frequent McD's that often,
    havn't been in one (except for the McFlurries & Fruit & Yogurt parfaits)
    for years. Some years ago we were travelling, stopped in at one for
    lunch. I got the FoF--meh! We also stopped at one when picking up our
    new camper, got the McChicken. Not as good as CFA; Steve got the spicy
    but said it was rather wimpy.


    Speaking of teeth, since I cannot get dental insurance with no teeth,
    my parents have graciously offered to co-sign a loan to help me get dentures. I'm calling our local Affordable Dentures office tomorrow to make an
    appointment to find out how much it'll be for the whole shebang. I
    hate going into debt but for this, I'll make an exception.

    Sounds good. They should let you work out a reasonable payment plan.
    Making a list of what you want to eat? (G)

    I like them too, but they're few and far between these days.

    I don't have them often these days since without a working vehicle,
    the nearest BK is six miles down the road for me.

    Our nearest one is a probably 2 or 3 miles away but we don't usually
    head in that direction. I think the last time we had a BK meal was about
    3 years ago.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jun 16 16:56:14 2023
    Hi Dave,

    They never were my "go-to" either. One thing I used to like was that I could get a baked potato instead of fries for my potato choice. Now
    the "baker" is priced with the large fries - so it's an "upcharge" in
    a combo meal. And it's definitely not finger food.

    The airport branch had a very limited menu so baked potatoes weren't an option for us. They had big signage for their strawberry frosty so we
    each got one of those--big mistake in hindsight. Yes, it was caffeine
    free but bright pink, very little strawberry flavor. Best that could be said about it was that it helped wash down the cheeseburger (no regular burgers available). If I go years without going to Wendy's again, I'll
    be happy.

    Those (airport kiosks) are necessarily "limited menu" kinds of places.
    The regular stand-alone Wendy's will have the baked potato option and
    they are decent plus.

    I'll have to take your word for it as we'd not been inside one in years
    prior to that. Probably even more years before we do go back in.


    I've not tried the Popeye's sandwich, tho it does look good. Most often we'll hit up CFA, tho did get some strips from Zaxby's the other day
    just for something easy do with protein.

    Do yourself a favour and give Popeye's a try. But not on a Tuesday
    when the Tuesday Special of 2 pieces of dark meat is on sale at a
    bargain. And, they are now offering "blackened" chicken sandwiches
    without the breading.

    Nearest Popeye's to us is in Raleigh, and not convenient to where we're
    usually going. OTOH, if Steve needs a Harbor Freight fix around lunch
    time, it's right there. (G)

    Mickey D's fancy chicken sandwich pertty well sucks rocks IMO. But,
    the McChicken (regular or spicy) is decent filler for the $$$.

    OK, but still not as good as CFA. When McDs came out with the McC, we
    were in Savannah. Older daughter called & said "if you aren't near a
    CFA, these are almost as good" (she was out west, nowhere near a CFA). Told her we were 5 minutes from CFA. (G)

    I used to get Chick Filly when they were in the mall location. Every
    time I pass by their stand-alone shop (adjacent outlot to the same
    mall) the lines of cars for the double drive-thru are stupid long. The franchisee is coining money - but I'll be blowed if I'll wait on line
    that long for
    anyone's food.

    Do they have an order ahead app? We've not looked into that option for
    any place to eat so couldn't tell you if they do or not. Something to
    look into if you really want CFA. But yes, lines there are always super
    long at lunch time--and some stores are designed so that parking for
    walk in customers in almost impossible at that time.


    Title: Tomato Florentine Soup
    Categories: Soups, Herbs, Greens, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    That looks good. Steve and I both had a cup of tomato bisque as part of our last meal in Fairbanks. He went on to have a chicken cordon bleu sandwich with fries, no roll. I took a few of his fries and a small bit
    of the chicken & roll but the soup hit the spot!

    I think we're going to subsist on easy pickin's from the freezer and fridge for a few more days. Probably by the end of this week/beginning
    of next, I'll be back to proper cooking.

    I'm going to try this next spring ....

    Title: Deep-Fried Dandelions
    Categories: Vegetables, Curry, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    I'll pass, we don't like beer, either as a drink or an ingredient.

    I'm not a fan of beer as an ingredient. And only as a beverage on some social occasions. If I ever make the deep-fried dandy lions I'll
    likely use my (previously posted - several times) "Dirty Dave's
    Sort-Of Tempura Battter" which uses club soda for the liquid.

    That'll work. We're not doing a lot, but doing some cooking now.

    If my house-mate ate on the same schedule as I do I'd do more
    elabourate cooking. As it is I do things like this ....

    I have found that by leaving the cheese off until the dogs are
    ready DD> to


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jun 17 16:22:14 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've vague memories of my mom splitting dogs almost in half, stuffing
    the slit with left over mashed potatoes, adding some cheese and
    browning them in the oven. Very vague memories as she didn't do it when
    we got older--most of the time because there weren't any left over (or enough left over) mashed potatoes. She usually fixed just enough for
    the meal; if there was just a dab or so left over, it went to stretch
    the dog(s) supper.

    I've not tried that...sounds good.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gwendolyn's Tuna Cassarole
    Categories: Main dish, Noodles, Fish, Seandennis
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 16 ounce bag of wide egg
    Noodles
    8 oz Block of extra sharp Cheddar
    Cheese
    1/2 c Mexican blend shredded
    Cheese
    1 c Italian bread crumbs
    2 5 ounce cans chunk light
    Tuna in water
    2 10.5 ounce cans of cream of
    Mushroom soup
    1/2 t Garlic salt
    3 T Black pepper
    1/4 c Vegetable oil

    Boil egg noodles until tender with the oil, 1 tablespoon pepper, and
    the garlic salt. Drain the noodles. Mix the noodles, soup, tuna and
    1/2 cup of breadcrumbs with another tablespoon of pepper until fully
    combined.

    Slice Cheddar cheese into small slices. Top mixture with the rest of
    the bread crumbs and pepper. Layer the cheese slices to cover the
    top, then sprinkle the Mexican blend over top of that. Cover, put on
    low heat on stovetop for 25 minutes.

    Sean's note: I received this one evening from my friend, Gwendolyn,
    online when I asked her what she was making for dinner. This is one
    of her favorite "go to" recipes.

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 18 January 2017.

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jun 18 20:02:26 2023
    Hi Sean,


    I've vague memories of my mom splitting dogs almost in half, stuffing
    the slit with left over mashed potatoes, adding some cheese and
    browning them in the oven. Very vague memories as she didn't do it when
    we got older--most of the time because there weren't any left over (or enough left over) mashed potatoes. She usually fixed just enough for
    the meal; if there was just a dab or so left over, it went to stretch
    the dog(s) supper.

    I've not tried that...sounds good.

    It's a good meal on a budget, especially popular with kids. I'm
    thinking another reason we probably didn't have it as us kids grew up is
    that we'd probably want 2 dogs each, adding to the expense. Dad insisted
    on mashed potatoes (almost) every night for supper but I think having
    them for lunch also would have been a bit much. I never fixed it for my girls/Steve because we didn't do a lot of mashed potatoes. Most often if
    we have potatoes, they're baked, or maybe fried or boiled (in potato
    salad).


    Title: Gwendolyn's Tuna Cassarole
    Categories: Main dish, Noodles, Fish, Seandennis
    Yield: 6 Servings


    Sean's note: I received this one evening from my friend, Gwendolyn,
    online when I asked her what she was making for dinner. This is one
    of her favorite "go to" recipes.

    Looks quick and easy. I did a basic tuna and noodles a couple of months
    ago, first time in some years. Usually I add peas and mushrooms to the
    basic tuna, noodles and CoM soup--stretches it a bit and makes it a one
    dish meal.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jun 19 13:57:10 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    It's a good meal on a budget, especially popular with kids. I'm
    thinking another reason we probably didn't have it as us kids grew up
    is that we'd probably want 2 dogs each, adding to the expense. Dad insisted on mashed potatoes (almost) every night for supper but I think having them for lunch also would have been a bit much. I never fixed it for my girls/Steve because we didn't do a lot of mashed potatoes. Most often if we have potatoes, they're baked, or maybe fried or boiled (in potato salad).

    I usually will have potatoes with dinner with meat and a veggie. Only other time I have potatoes withbreakfast as hash browns. I pr3f3er all-beef hot
    dogs which are a bit spendy these days.

    Looks quick and easy. I did a basic tuna and noodles a couple of months ago, first time in some years. Usually I add peas and mushrooms to the basic tuna, noodles and CoM soup--stretches it a bit and makes it a one dish meal.

    It is tasty. Might make it tonight for dinner.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Houston's Canadian Cheese Soup
    Categories: Soups, Cake mix
    Yield: 1 Servings

    MMMMM-----------------------LANGE (MDTR71A----------------------------
    1/2 c Margarine
    1 c Carrots; 1/8" cube
    1/2 c Celery; 1/8" cube
    3 c Chicken broth
    3 c Half-and-half
    2 lb Velveeta cheese; sm. cubes
    1 tb Fresh parsley; chop fine
    Diced tomatoes; or
    Diced jalapeno chilies as;
    -garnish (opt)

    Melt the margarine in a Dutch oven. Add the carrots, onions and
    celery all at once and sautAc until soft but not brown. Add flour and
    stir to combine. Cook until mixture begins to turn a light-brown
    color. Over medium high heat, add the chicken broth a little at a
    time. Stir and continue to cook and stir with a whisk until a thick
    base if formed. Add half and half being careful not to let it boil.
    Add cheese, stirring until melted. Just before serving add parsley.
    Garnish with diced tomatoes and jalapenos, if desired. Source:
    Houston's Restaurant Posted to EAT-L Digest 26 Sep 96

    Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:52:28 -0400

    From: Lilia Prescod <lprescod@ITRC.UWATERLOO.CA>

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jun 20 12:44:00 2023
    Hi Sean,

    often if we have potatoes, they're baked, or maybe fried or boiled (in potato salad).

    I usually will have potatoes with dinner with meat and a veggie. Only

    That's what my dad liked, so that's what mom cooked. I'll do something
    like kasha, couscous or rice as an alternative to potatoes.

    other time I have potatoes withbreakfast as hash browns. I pr3f3er

    Breakfast is usually easy do for us. Steve will do a variety of
    things--cereal, eggs, pancakes, waffles, etc. I usually stick to a bagel (half), small cup of yogurt. bit of cheese and a cuppa tea. Subject to
    change but that's my usual breakfast at home.


    all-beef hot dogs which are a bit spendy these days.

    But so much better tasting and if they don't have filler, better for
    you.


    Looks quick and easy. I did a basic tuna and noodles a couple of months ago, first time in some years. Usually I add peas and mushrooms to the basic tuna, noodles and CoM soup--stretches it a bit and makes it a one dish meal.

    It is tasty. Might make it tonight for dinner.

    I just put a pot of (pasta) sauce on the stove--tomato paste & sauce,
    water, garlic powder. oregano, parsley, basil & S&P. Also added the
    remains of a bag of commercial meat balls. The sauce can be used for
    anything Italian--cook it down thick for pizza sauce, not quite as thick
    makes it good over any kind of pasta.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jun 22 02:13:06 2023
    On 06-20-23 12:44, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Sean Dennis about Travelling <=-

    Breakfast is usually easy do for us. Steve will do a variety of things--cereal, eggs, pancakes, waffles, etc. I usually stick to a
    bagel (half), small cup of yogurt. bit of cheese and a cuppa tea.
    Subject to change but that's my usual breakfast at home.

    Our usual breakfast at home is nothing (unless we are getting up extra
    early for some reason). We are late night people and don't go to bed
    before well after midnight and don't get up until afternoon.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Good Old Fashioned Pancakes
    Categories: Tested, Breakfast, Easy
    Yield: 10 Servings

    1 1/2 c All purpose flour
    3 1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 1/2 ts Sugar
    1 1/4 c Milk
    1 lg Egg
    3 tb Butter, melted

    Preheat electric griddle to 375 (Almost number 4 on my electric
    griddle)

    In large bowl, sift together flour, baking powder, salt and sugar.

    Make a well in the center of this mixture and pour in the milk, egg
    and melted butter, mix well until smooth. (Some little lumps are ok)

    Test griddle by sprinkling drops of water on surface until water
    "dances" across pan and dissapears.

    When griddle is ready, lightly spray with PAM - using 1/4 cup measure,
    scoop batter out of bowl and pour onto the griddle.

    When there are little bubbles forming along outside and in middle of
    pancake and bottom side is golden brown - flip and cook other side
    until golden brown - about 1 minute.

    Serve hot.

    Variation of recipe from Allrecipies.com

    Tested 3/08 - very good will do again.

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Thu Jun 22 06:57:04 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Breakfast is usually easy do for us. Steve will do a variety of things--cereal, eggs, pancakes, waffles, etc. I usually stick to a
    bagel (half), small cup of yogurt. bit of cheese and a cuppa tea.
    Subject to change but that's my usual breakfast at home.

    Our usual breakfast at home is nothing (unless we are getting up extra early for some reason). We are late night people and don't go to bed before well after midnight and don't get up until afternoon.

    But breakfast is an "anytime" meal as you are breaking your fast. I can
    eat breakfast dishes at any time of the day or night ... depending on my
    hunger and cravings.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Breakfast 'shoe
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Eggs, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 (5" to 6" dia) buttermilk
    - biscuit; split *
    2 lg Eggs; cooked any style
    2 Sausage patties; cooked **
    2 c Hashed brown, American fried
    - cottage fried or French
    - fried potatoes
    Sausage gravy to cover all
    Shredded yellow cheese; opt

    MMMMM---------------------------GRAVY--------------------------------
    1 lb Bulk pork sausage; sage
    2 tb Onion; fine chopped
    6 tb Flour
    1 qt Milk
    1/2 ts Poultry seasoning
    1/2 ts Nutmeg; ground
    1/4 ts Salt
    pn Worcestershire powder
    pn Cayenne

    Crumble sausage into a large saucepan. Cook over medium-
    low heat. Add onion; cook and stir until transparent.
    Drain, reserving all but 2 tb of drippings. Add the two
    tablespoons of fat back to the meat, stir in flour and
    cook over medium-low heat for about 6 minutes or until
    the mixture bubbles and turns golden.

    Stir in milk. Add seasonings; cook, stirring, until
    thickened. Set aside and keep warm.

    This is *much more* gravy than is needed. The unused
    portion keeps well in the ice box for up to a week.

    Split the biscuit and place on a large oval platter.

    Place the fried pork patties on the biscuit halves.

    Cook the eggs as you like them and slide them onto
    the top of the pork patties.

    Add your potatoes over the eggs, and ladle on the
    sausage gravy, stopping before it runs off the edges
    of the plate.

    Sprinkle shredded yellow cheese over the top, if you
    like.

    Serves 1 if you are hungry. Serves 2 if you're a wuss.

    * can substitute toast if you must.

    ** Pick your meat. I prefer sausage. Others may like
    ham, bacon, beef, etc.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Thu Jun 22 13:42:24 2023
    Hi Dale,


    Breakfast is usually easy do for us. Steve will do a variety of things--cereal, eggs, pancakes, waffles, etc. I usually stick to a
    bagel (half), small cup of yogurt. bit of cheese and a cuppa tea.
    Subject to change but that's my usual breakfast at home.

    Our usual breakfast at home is nothing (unless we are getting up extra early for some reason). We are late night people and don't go to bed before well after midnight and don't get up until afternoon.

    I used to be more of a night owl, especially in college. Breakfast at
    the dining hall only went to 8 am so most of the time I had a cuppa tea
    or glass of Tang in my room instead. Sometimes a munchie to go with it, sometimes not. Steve got me into eating a regular breakfast after we got married; it usually wasn't much more than the college version until I
    was expecting our first. Then it was tea and toast before getting out of
    bed, then later on in the day, after my stomach settled down, a bit more
    of something.

    My mom always served just cereal (cold in summer--after school got out
    in June, hot in winter--from Labor Day on), bread and jelly, juice and
    milk for breakfast. Things like pancakes, eggs, etc were for lunch or
    Sunday night meals. My parents always made us take a piece of bread for breakfast under the "reasoning" that "you'll never know when you'll eat
    again". Thing is, most often we did as school lunch was a set time,
    weekends and holidays, Mom served lunch at a fairly standard 12:15 (or
    within a few minutes of it).


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Good Old Fashioned Pancakes
    Categories: Tested, Breakfast, Easy
    Yield: 10 Servings

    1 1/2 c All purpose flour
    3 1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 1/2 ts Sugar
    1 1/4 c Milk
    1 lg Egg
    3 tb Butter, melted

    Preheat electric griddle to 375 (Almost number 4 on my electric
    griddle)

    In large bowl, sift together flour, baking powder, salt and sugar.

    Make a well in the center of this mixture and pour in the milk, egg
    and melted butter, mix well until smooth. (Some little lumps are
    ok)

    Test griddle by sprinkling drops of water on surface until water
    "dances" across pan and dissapears.

    When griddle is ready, lightly spray with PAM - using 1/4 cup
    measure, scoop batter out of bowl and pour onto the griddle.

    When there are little bubbles forming along outside and in middle of
    pancake and bottom side is golden brown - flip and cook other side
    until golden brown - about 1 minute.

    Serve hot.

    Variation of recipe from Allrecipies.com

    Tested 3/08 - very good will do again.

    MMMMM


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