• Gravy was: Crampers

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat May 13 05:16:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I like both the cider (hot or cold) and the doughnuts. (G)

    Perhaps it's because all of the cider doughnuts I have had are "cake" doughnuts .... which is not my favourite form of cruller. My
    preference is for what I call "old fashioned" - unglazed, glazed or
    glazed and then drizzled w/chocolate icing. Bv)=

    That'll work. I presume you're not a fan of Dunkin or Tim Horton's?
    Sounds like the NC native Krispy Kreme might fit your favorite
    category.

    I don't have much experience with the Canadian doughnut guys. But DD
    has some products I am very much in favour of. Like their apple fritters. Krispy Kreme used to have half a dozen locations here. They are currently
    down to just one .... and it's hanging on by a (fraying) thread. Our local "Mel-O-Cream" brand outperforms them in nearlyt every way.

    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B

    Funny you should mention that. An aquaintance harvested a deer with
    his SUV and has gifted me with a nice venison rump-roast. It's
    currently in the marinade getting ready to be weekend dinner. Bv)=

    The first time my mom made it, she used a venison roast she'd been
    given. Don't know what she did but it was really gamy and most of the family didn't like it. I don't recall her making it ever again. When
    Steve and I got married, she typed up a book of recipies I requested so
    I checked that one for sauerbraten when I couldn't get to my usual one. She said to marinade it in vinegar and water ratio 2:1, a couple of
    onions and a couple of bay leaves. Cooking instructions were just to
    cook it like pot roast, using the marinade for cooking liquid. No real flavor there except the vinegar.

    His comment to me was "When I bought that Isuzu I thought the "brush guard" front bumper was a bit much. But there's no damage to the
    little guy - so I believe I'll keep it."

    Sounds like a good idea to me. We just traded the tonnu cover for a cap
    on the back of the F-150. Gives us a lot more room for extra camper and radio gear.

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    TO MAKE GRAVY: Strain cooking juices, discarding onions
    and seasonings. Add enough reserved marinade to the
    cooking juices to measure 3 cups. Pour into a large
    saucepan; bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer until
    gravy is thickened. Slice roast and serve with gravy.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    I use the spices I named above, cook it in the marinade in a dutch
    oven. Used to do it in the crock pot but found we like it better done
    in the dutch oven. When done, take it out, defat the cooking liquid,
    put it back in the pot. Add crushed gingersnaps--about 10/12 cookies
    per cup of liquid, a bit (tablespoon or so) of sugar and simmer until thick. The meat will be falling apart tender, the gravy will make a
    great topper to noodles, potatoes or whatever starch you serve with the sauerbraten. I usually do noodles but did bow tie pasta this time. Red cabbage makes a good side to the meal also.

    Since I am not a fan of gingersnaps as a cookie I am not a fan of them
    in my gravy. I *do* have some German ancestry and have been served both
    ginger cookies and lebkuchen at various relatives.

    Here's my pan gravy recipe (such as it is). As Emeril says "First you
    make a roux". Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: E-Z Pan Gravy
    Categories: Five, Sauces
    Yield: 1 recipe

    Roast drippings
    A-P flour
    Water or broth

    Sorry there are no measurements for the gravy, it's
    one of those dishes you have to work with to get it
    right.

    Strain the dripping from the roast into a skillet and
    heat over medium heat. Add a few heaping spoonfuls (one
    at a time) of flour to the hot drippings; stirring to
    make paste/roux. You dont want this paste too dry or
    too wet.

    Add warm water, a cup at a time; stir. Keep adding
    additional water (and continue stirring) until your
    gravy is the consistency you like.

    At this time you add back any (or all) the "browned
    bits" you set aside when you strained the pan dripping.
    If you like them - it's not a requirement.

    Spoon gravy over slices of roast, mashed potatoes and/or
    biscuits.

    If your roast was well seasoned you won't need any
    other hrebs/spices beyond salt and pepper for your
    gravy.

    Recipe from watching my dad and grandmother make gravy
    for Sunday dinner.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat May 13 16:42:31 2023
    Hi Dave,

    preference is for what I call "old fashioned" - unglazed, glazed or
    glazed and then drizzled w/chocolate icing. Bv)=

    That'll work. I presume you're not a fan of Dunkin or Tim Horton's?
    Sounds like the NC native Krispy Kreme might fit your favorite
    category.

    I don't have much experience with the Canadian doughnut guys. But DD

    In way upstate NY (IIRC, outside of Malone) last year we stopped at a
    Tim Horton's on our way to VT. Both of us got a maple glazed
    doughnut--really good but not great. I'd probably go for it again or try
    a chocolate one.

    has some products I am very much in favour of. Like their apple DD>
    fritters. Krispy Kreme used to have half a dozen locations here. They
    are currently down to just one .... and it's hanging on by a
    (fraying) DD> thread. Our local "Mel-O-Cream" brand outperforms them in
    nearlyt DD> every way.

    Our local KK doesn't make them from scrach on site any more. We used to
    like to watch the process, then get a hot one to go.


    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B

    Funny you should mention that. An aquaintance harvested a deer with
    his SUV and has gifted me with a nice venison rump-roast. It's
    currently in the marinade getting ready to be weekend dinner. Bv)=

    The first time my mom made it, she used a venison roast she'd been
    given. Don't know what she did but it was really gamy and most of the family didn't like it. I don't recall her making it ever again. When
    Steve and I got married, she typed up a book of recipies I requested so
    I checked that one for sauerbraten when I couldn't get to my usual one. She said to marinade it in vinegar and water ratio 2:1, a couple of
    onions and a couple of bay leaves. Cooking instructions were just to
    cook it like pot roast, using the marinade for cooking liquid. No real flavor there except the vinegar.

    His comment to me was "When I bought that Isuzu I thought the "brush guard" front bumper was a bit much. But there's no damage to the
    little guy - so I believe I'll keep it."

    Sounds like a good idea to me. We just traded the tonnu cover for a cap
    on the back of the F-150. Gives us a lot more room for extra camper and radio gear.

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    thick. The meat will be falling apart tender, the gravy will make a
    great topper to noodles, potatoes or whatever starch you serve with the sauerbraten. I usually do noodles but did bow tie pasta this time. Red cabbage makes a good side to the meal also.

    Since I am not a fan of gingersnaps as a cookie I am not a fan of them
    in my gravy. I *do* have some German ancestry and have been served
    both ginger cookies and lebkuchen at various relatives.

    OTOH, I like a good gingersnap cookie. I've seen various recipies for
    them but they're usually a soft cookie, not the hard one of a real
    'snap. My mom used to call the soft ones "Mother Hubbard cookies", us
    kids would add "Old" to the beginning of the name. (G)


    Here's my pan gravy recipe (such as it is). As Emeril says "First you
    make a roux". Bv)=

    We do this one without a roux, just the pan juices, cookies and a bit of
    sugar.

    BTW,just a head's up; I don't want you to get concerned. I'll be "off
    air" starting next Saturday until June 1 or 2. Planned event, details to
    come later. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon May 15 04:46:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don't have much experience with the Canadian doughnut guys. But DD

    In way upstate NY (IIRC, outside of Malone) last year we stopped at a
    Tim Horton's on our way to VT. Both of us got a maple glazed doughnut--really good but not great. I'd probably go for it again or
    try a chocolate one.

    Tim's has been crossing the border for a while now. AFAICS they're just
    another doughnut shop - decent but not spectacular. My really farvorite expoerts from Canadia are poutine and some of their musicians. I'll miss
    miss Gordon Lightfoot nearly as much as Osacar Peterson..

    Our local KK doesn't make them from scrach on site any more. We used to like to watch the process, then get a hot one to go.

    Mel-O-Cream's main income is from supplying other doughnut shops, grocery stores and stupormarkups with mix, dough and batter to be finished in the
    local location. Even Hy-Vee uses (chain wide) the Mel-O-Cream product.

    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B

    thick. The meat will be falling apart tender, the gravy will make a
    great topper to noodles, potatoes or whatever starch you serve with the sauerbraten. I usually do noodles but did bow tie pasta this time. Red cabbage makes a good side to the meal also.

    Since I am not a fan of gingersnaps as a cookie I am not a fan of them
    in my gravy. I *do* have some German ancestry and have been served
    both ginger cookies and lebkuchen at various relatives.

    OTOH, I like a good gingersnap cookie. I've seen various recipies for
    them but they're usually a soft cookie, not the hard one of a real
    'snap. My mom used to call the soft ones "Mother Hubbard cookies", us
    kids would add "Old" to the beginning of the name. (G)

    I was offered a pizelle during the winter holiday season once. As I am
    not a fan of the trasaditional aniseused to flavour pizelles and these
    were tan rather than chocolate brown I asked if they had anise in them.

    Turns out - no anise but loads of ginger. FEH!

    Here's my pan gravy recipe (such as it is). As Emeril says "First you
    make a roux". Bv)=

    We do this one without a roux, just the pan juices, cookies and a bit
    of sugar.

    the cookies thincken the gravy just as the roux would.

    BTW,just a head's up; I don't want you to get concerned. I'll be "off
    air" starting next Saturday until June 1 or 2. Planned event, details
    to come later. (G)

    Thanks for letting us know. I saw onn Doc's the other day when I was
    checking message propagation a notice in his General Chatter echo

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm living
    with her and we have a rift ongoing. I might go to Maryland to visit a
    friend and will land somewhere down here when I get back. I can be
    reached at fidosysop@gmail.com"

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re-
    visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    I used to make these at holiday time. But not since I had to abandon
    the pizzele iron to the black mold in my former tin can. And my kitchen
    here is not very handy for baking cookiesa or cakes ... or pies for that matter.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Flavia's Pizzelle
    Categories: Cookies, Desserts, Snacks
    Yield: 36 servings

    MMMMM----------------------VANILLA PIZELLES---------------------------
    6 lg Eggs; room temp
    1 1/2 c Granulated sugar
    1 c Unsalted butter; melted,
    - cooled
    2 ts Vanilla or anise extract
    2 1/2 c All-purpose flour
    4 ts Baking powder

    MMMMM---------------------CHOCOLATE PIZELLES--------------------------
    3 lg Eggs; room temp
    1 c Granulated sugar
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    1/4 c Dutch-process cocoa powder
    2 ts Baking powder
    1 2/3 c All-purpose flour
    1/2 c Unsalted butter; melted,
    - cooled to room temp

    VANILLA PIZELLES: Heat the pizzelle iron according to
    manufacturer's instructions.

    In a mixing bowl, whisk the flour and baking powder
    together. Set aside.

    In the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle
    attachment, beat the eggs and sugar until well combined.
    Add in the melted, cooled butter and vanilla (or anise)
    extract. With the mixer on low speed, gradually add in
    the flour mixture and mix until it is just incorporated.
    Finish incorporating any flour by hand using a spatula
    to scrape the bottom of the bowl, taking care not to
    over-mix the batter. Let the batter rest for 5-10
    minutes to let it thicken.

    Drop spoonfuls of batter onto each mold-how much batter
    you place in each mold will depend on the size of your
    pizzelle iron molds. Cook the pizzelle according to the
    manufacturer's instructions. When the pizzelle are
    finished cooking, use a spatula to transfer them to a
    cooling rack and let them cool completely to allow them
    to crisp.

    CHOCOLATE PIZELLES: Heat the pizzelle iron according to
    manufacturer's instructions.

    In the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with the paddle
    attachment, beat the eggs, sugar, and vanilla extract
    until smooth.

    Add in the cocoa powder and baking powder and mix until
    combined.

    With the mixer on low speed, gradually add in the flour
    and mix until it is just incorporated. Finish
    incorporating any flour by hand using a spatula to
    scrape the bottom of the bowl, taking care not to
    over-mix the batter. Let the batter rest for 5-10
    minutes to let it thicken.

    Drop spoonfuls of batter onto each mold-how much batter
    you place in each mold will depend on the size of your
    pizzelle iron molds. Cook the pizzelle according to the

    manufacturer’s instructions. When the pizzelle are
    finished cooking, use a spatula to transfer them to a
    cooling rack and let them cool completely to allow them
    to crisp.

    Author: Flavia Scalzitti

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.flaviasflavors.com

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Mon May 15 13:24:46 2023
    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Didn't realize Single Ruth had left. As for Jim, the last email I got from
    him concerning the echo was that the echo had suddenly become beneath him because his sh*t suddenly didn't stink anymore. After that, I lost respect
    for him and think the echo is better off from that kind of attitude.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cat Poop Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Kids
    Yield: 1 servings

    MMMMM-------------------CHOCOLATE INGREDIENTS------------------------
    1/2 c Honey
    2/3 c Butter, margarine, or lard
    1 Egg
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    -OR- peppermint extract
    2 c Whole wheat flour
    1/3 c Cocoa powder
    Grape-nuts(tm) cereal

    MMMMM------------------GINGERBREAD INGREDIENTS-----------------------
    1/4 c Honey
    1/4 c Molasses
    2/3 c Butter or margarine, or lard
    1 Egg
    2 1/3 c Whole wheat flour
    Ginger, cinnamon, cloves
    - to taste
    -(maybe 1/2 tsp each)
    Grape-nuts(tm) cereal

    MMMMM--------------------------MIX-INS-------------------------------
    Coconut; (tapeworms)
    Chocolate chips
    Butterscotch chips
    Peanut butter chips
    Spagetti or ramen noodles
    - cooked - (roundworms)
    Corn
    Peanuts
    "puffy pastel things"; *
    -find at Chinese restaurants

    *NOTE: "puffy pastel things are to look like the cat ate styrofoam
    packing pellets-i haven't tried this

    to make: microwave the honey till it bubbles(about 1 minute). add the
    butter,(i've been told using lard makes for a more realistic texture
    and softer cookie) and the molasses, if any. add the egg, mix well,
    then mix in all the other stuff. add mix-ins of your choice to some
    or all of the batter.

    chill 1 hour in the freezer or several hours in the fridge. roll
    dough logs of random length and the diameter of cat poops. roll logs
    in grape- nuts and bake at 350 degrees till done(maybe 10 to 15
    minutes but with my flaky oven you never know).

    serve in a disposable cat litter box on a bed of grapenuts, with a cat
    litter scoop. i hear you get lovely effects by decorating the box and
    scoop with melted chocolate or pudding. i imagine brown sugar might
    work as a substitute for the new clumping litters, but i havent tried
    it. this recipe worked especially well at the halloween party where
    the table was already decorated with plastic flies.

    From: Anne P. Mitchell JD k

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Mon May 15 15:54:00 2023
    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re-
    visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    One of the Ruth's did create an account here the last time that Doc got irritated and (temporarily) pulled the plug.

    They are welcome to participate from here.

    Mike


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Mon May 15 19:10:56 2023
    Hello Mike,

    15 May 23 15:54, you wrote to DAVE DRUM:

    One of the Ruth's did create an account here the last time that Doc
    got irritated and (temporarily) pulled the plug.

    That's Single Ruth or Ruth Hanscheska (I hope I didn't slaughter her name). She and Jim only used Doc's because of WINServer's WWW interface. Jim's permanently gone but I'll send Single Ruth a message via Facebook to see what's up.

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Tue May 16 03:58:13 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Tim's has been crossing the border for a while now. AFAICS they're just another doughnut shop - decent but not spectacular. My really farvorite

    Agreed. Even though this might get be kicked out of Canada. I hate their coffee and won't drink it. Has no flavour what so ever.

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm

    He's a serial monogamist. LOL

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    That's a shame. I was hoping Weller would come back.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Sean Dennis on Tue May 16 05:02:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Didn't realize Single Ruth had left. As for Jim, the last email I got from him concerning the echo was that the echo had suddenly become
    beneath him because his sh*t suddenly didn't stink anymore. After
    that, I lost respect for him and think the echo is better off from that kind of attitude.

    In person he's a nice guy. I met him at the Canadian Caper Picnic that
    was held in Hemmingford, Quebec. But, on-line he exhibits this "I am
    the be all and the end all of culinary opinion. My Way Or The Highway." attitude. Ah, well, we'll survive.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Oogruk Flippers - The Eskimo Cookbook
    Categories: Five, Game, Exotic
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 sm Oogruk
    Fresh blubber

    Cut the flippers off from the oogruk. Put the flippers
    in fresh blubber. Let them stay there for about two
    weeks.

    Take the loose fur off the flipper.

    Cut flipper into small pieces and eat the meat.

    NOTES :From "The Eskimo Cookbook", prepared by students
    of Shishmaref Day School in Shishmaref, Alaska and
    published exclusively by The Easter Seal Society for
    Alaska Crippled Children and Adults (1952).

    Recipe By: Raymond Seetomana

    Obtained from: Caitlin Davis Carlson, Seaview, WA

    Posted by: Garry Howard, Cambridge, MA

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Tue May 16 05:09:00 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    One of the Ruth's did create an account here the last time that Doc got irritated and (temporarily) pulled the plug.

    They are welcome to participate from here.

    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man, Steve
    point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's my point."
    The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ruthie's Frozen Fruit Smoothie
    Categories: Live!, Beverages, Desserts
    Yield: 1 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------FRUIT--------------------------------
    Frozen strawberries
    +=OR=+
    Frozen 1/2" banana slices
    +=OR=+
    Frozen raspberries
    +=OR=+
    Frozen blueberries
    +=OR=+
    Frozen peach slices
    Sugar to taste

    MMMMM-------------------------FLAVOURING------------------------------
    1/2 ts Vanilla extract (per drink)
    +=OR=+
    2 tb Chocolate syrup (per drink)

    MMMMM---------------------------LIQUID--------------------------------
    Milk
    +=OR=+
    Orange juice
    +=OR=+
    Flavored yogurt; peach
    - vanilla, lemon, etc.

    In a blender combine the fruit with the sugar, the
    chosen flavouring and enough of the chosen liquid to
    barely cover the fruit.

    Blend until smooth.

    Taste to adjust seasoning.

    Garnish with a strawberry and a sprig of mint.

    From: Cooking Live Show #CLE076

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Tue May 16 05:28:00 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Tim's has been crossing the border for a while now. AFAICS they're
    just another doughnut shop - decent but not spectacular. My really farvorite

    Agreed. Even though this might get be kicked out of Canada. I hate
    their coffee and won't drink it. Has no flavour what so ever.

    I seldom drink coffee away from home. Doctor's suggestion that I limit
    my intake. So, I make a pot last two days and do ice water w/lemon at restaurants. I have had coffee at both Dunkin Doughnuts and at Mel-O-
    Cream and it's excellent. In fact Dunkies bags and sells their coffee.
    At a price-point that make my throat slam shut, though.

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm

    He's a serial monogamist. LOL

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    That's a shame. I was hoping Weller would come back.

    I dunno, with the attitude he'd been displaying and all the nit-picking
    and pedantry I remember thinking "It's a good thing it doesn't rain over
    much in Yellowknife. With his supercillious attitude his nose is so far
    in the air that he's drown in a decent thunderstorm.

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    Title: Oswald Rivera's Berliner/Paczki/Jelly Donuts
    Categories: Breads, Fruits
    Yield: 15 servings

    2 Envelopes active dry yeast
    1/2 c Warm water
    1 c Warm milk
    3/4 c Sugar
    1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    1/2 ts Salt
    4 c All-purpose flour; more for
    - dusting
    1/3 c Butter; softened
    5 c Oil for frying; more for
    - coating a bowl
    13 1/2 oz Jar strawberry or fruit jam
    Powdered sugar; for
    - finishing

    In a small bowl, dissolve the yeast in warm water and
    let it stand for about 5 minutes or until foamy.

    In a large bowl, combine the yeast mixture, milk, sugar,
    vanilla, salt, and flour. Mix the ingredients until
    smooth and soft but not sticky. If using a mixer, mix on
    low speed for a few minutes until a shaggy dough forms.
    Add the butter, increase speed to medium, and mix until
    dough is smooth.

    Grease another large bowel with oil. Form the dough into
    a ball. Place dough in the bowl, turning to coat with
    oil. Cover with plastic wrap or a damp towel. Set aside
    in a warm spot and let rise until doubled in size, about
    1 to 1 1/2 hours.

    Lightly flour a baking sheet or surface (a large wooden
    square block is perfect for this). Turn the dough onto
    the floured surface and, using a rolling pin, roll out
    until about 1/2" thick. Using a lightly floured 2" round
    biscuit cutter, cut out as many rounds as possible
    (should have 25 or more). Place on a lightly floured
    sheet or surface, spacing them apart. Again, loosely
    cover with plastic wrap or a damp towel, and let rise
    until doubled in size, about 20-30 minutes.

    Heat the oil in a deep-fryer, large skillet, or large
    pot to 350-#F/175-#C. Using a flat spatula, carefully
    slide the dough rounds into the hot oil and, working in
    batches to avoid overcrowding, fry until they rise to
    the surface, then turn over and fry until puffy and
    golden brown (2-3 minutes). Drain on paper towels.

    When the donuts have cooled, using a paring knife, cut a
    small slit in the side of the donut, and fill this
    center with jelly (about 1 tablespoon), using a pastry
    injector, syringe, piping bag, or small spoon. Sprinkle
    with powdered sugar and serve immediately.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.thedailymeal.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon May 15 12:19:08 2023
    Hi Dave,


    In way upstate NY (IIRC, outside of Malone) last year we stopped at a
    Tim Horton's on our way to VT. Both of us got a maple glazed doughnut--really good but not great. I'd probably go for it again or
    try a chocolate one.

    Tim's has been crossing the border for a while now. AFAICS they're

    I know; there's one in Brockport, NY near the Wegman's we visit fairly
    often while in western NY. Never stopped into TH before the trip last
    summer tho.

    just another doughnut shop - decent but not spectacular. My really farvorite expoerts from Canadia are poutine and some of their DD>
    musicians. I'll miss miss Gordon Lightfoot nearly as much as Osacar DD>
    Peterson..

    Agreed about Gordon Lightfoot; he was good. Don't know about Osacar
    Peterson tho.


    Our local KK doesn't make them from scrach on site any more. We used to like to watch the process, then get a hot one to go.

    Mel-O-Cream's main income is from supplying other doughnut shops,
    grocery stores and stupormarkups with mix, dough and batter to be
    finished in the local location. Even Hy-Vee uses (chain wide) the

    Our local Wegman's has dougnuts, don't know if they have their own mix
    or buy one. We've never bought doughnuts from them but have bought a lot
    of bagels and a number of kimmelwick rolls.
    Mel-O-Cream product.

    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B

    Since I am not a fan of gingersnaps as a cookie I am not a fan of them
    in my gravy. I *do* have some German ancestry and have been served
    both ginger cookies and lebkuchen at various relatives.

    OTOH, I like a good gingersnap cookie. I've seen various recipies for
    them but they're usually a soft cookie, not the hard one of a real
    'snap. My mom used to call the soft ones "Mother Hubbard cookies", us
    kids would add "Old" to the beginning of the name. (G)

    I was offered a pizelle during the winter holiday season once. As I am
    not a fan of the trasaditional aniseused to flavour pizelles and these were tan rather than chocolate brown I asked if they had anise in
    them.

    Turns out - no anise but loads of ginger. FEH!

    They come in all sorts of flavors, never heard of ginger ones however.
    Orange, chocolate, lemon and traditionally anise are the most common.

    Here's my pan gravy recipe (such as it is). As Emeril says "First you
    make a roux". Bv)=

    We do this one without a roux, just the pan juices, cookies and a bit
    of sugar.

    the cookies thincken the gravy just as the roux would.

    Exactly!


    BTW,just a head's up; I don't want you to get concerned. I'll be "off
    air" starting next Saturday until June 1 or 2. Planned event, details
    to come later. (G)

    Thanks for letting us know. I saw onn Doc's the other day when I was checking message propagation a notice in his General Chatter echo

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm
    living with her and we have a rift ongoing. I might go to Maryland to visit a
    friend and will land somewhere down here when I get back. I can be
    reached at fidosysop@gmail.com"

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to
    re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Sigh! Maybe they'll pick up some other source. Meanwhile, it's getting
    quieter and quieter around here.


    I used to make these at holiday time. But not since I had to abandon
    the pizzele iron to the black mold in my former tin can. And my
    kitchen here is not very handy for baking cookiesa or cakes ... or
    pies for that matter.


    Title: Flavia's Pizzelle
    Categories: Cookies, Desserts, Snacks
    Yield: 36 servings

    My MIL gave me a pizzelle iron for a wedding present. First time I was
    up at Steve's house to meet his family was on a break from the camp I
    was working at 50 years ago. Helped his mom make a batch of cookies
    while Steve was at work; she set aside a tin for me to take back to
    camp. The next day (Sunday) in the busy-ness of everything, I forgot it; Monday's mail call had the tin full of cookies for me.

    I used to mix up the batter, put it in the fridge until Steve got home.
    He'd then pull out the propane camp stove, set it on the table and grab
    a book to read while baking the cookies. More than one got a bit darker
    than they should have as he got absorbed in the book and would forget to
    flip the iron or take out a finished one. We now have an electric iron,
    does 3 (smaller) ones at once. Cooking goes a lot faster and there are
    fewer dark cookies.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Tue May 16 15:22:00 2023
    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man, Steve point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's my point."
    The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    I have always enjoyed that origin line. :)

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed May 17 06:38:42 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know; there's one in Brockport, NY near the Wegman's we visit fairly often while in western NY. Never stopped into TH before the trip last summer tho.

    just another doughnut shop - decent but not spectacular. My really farvorite expoerts from Canadia are poutine and some of their DD>
    musicians. I'll miss miss Gordon Lightfoot nearly as much as Osacar

    Peterson..

    Agreed about Gordon Lightfoot; he was good. Don't know about Osacar Peterson tho.

    Oscar was a piano picker of great talent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Peterson

    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B

    Since I am not a fan of gingersnaps as a cookie I am not a fan of them
    in my gravy. I *do* have some German ancestry and have been served
    both ginger cookies and lebkuchen at various relatives.

    OTOH, I like a good gingersnap cookie. I've seen various recipies for
    them but they're usually a soft cookie, not the hard one of a real
    'snap. My mom used to call the soft ones "Mother Hubbard cookies", us
    kids would add "Old" to the beginning of the name. (G)

    I was offered a pizelle during the winter holiday season once. As I am
    not a fan of the trasaditional aniseused to flavour pizelles and these were tan rather than chocolate brown I asked if they had anise in
    them.

    Turns out - no anise but loads of ginger. FEH!

    They come in all sorts of flavors, never heard of ginger ones however. Orange, chocolate, lemon and traditionally anise are the most common.

    Here's my pan gravy recipe (such as it is). As Emeril says "First you
    make a roux". Bv)=

    We do this one without a roux, just the pan juices, cookies and a bit
    of sugar.

    the cookies thincken the gravy just as the roux would.

    Exactly!


    BTW,just a head's up; I don't want you to get concerned. I'll be "off
    air" starting next Saturday until June 1 or 2. Planned event, details
    to come later. (G)

    Thanks for letting us know. I saw onn Doc's the other day when I was checking message propagation a notice in his General Chatter echo

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm
    living with her and we have a rift ongoing. I might go to Maryland to visit a
    friend and will land somewhere down here when I get back. I can be
    reached at fidosysop@gmail.com"

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to
    re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Sigh! Maybe they'll pick up some other source. Meanwhile, it's getting quieter and quieter around here.

    I may be absent myelf. I'm running a 102┬║ feverand having trouble
    breeathing. Gonna have my brother Uber me to Urget care .... first to
    see if its Co-Vid (even though I'm vaxxed (twice) and have had all the
    booster available. It may be somethingn else entirely - which is why I
    go to the pros.

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    Title: First Aid Lunch Kit
    Categories: Poulltry,
    Yield: 2 servingvegetables, Breads, Cheese, Grens

    12 1/2 oz Can chicken breast chunks
    - drained
    1 Celery rib; diced
    1 Green onion; thin sliced
    2 tb Mayonnaise; to taste
    1 (7") whole wheat tortilla
    4 Cheese squares; as needed
    Heart toothpicks
    2 Cheese squares w/heart
    - toothpicks
    1 tb Italian dressing
    Vial
    1/2 c Mixed salad greens
    1 Red bell pepper; cut in the
    - shape of a red cross
    1/3 lg Jicama; in matchsticks
    10 Round 7-grain crackers
    1/2 (6 oz) pkg fruit-flavored
    - gelatin snacks, in 1" cubes
    2 (3/4 oz) pca fruit snack roll
    2 tb Yellow candy-coated milk
    - chocolate candies
    Dinosaur-shaped magic grow
    - capsules

    Mix chicken, celery, green onion, and mayonnaise
    together in a bowl to make chicken salad.

    Slice tortilla into pieces that resemble bandages; place
    cheese squares over the middle of each bandage. Pour
    Italian dressing into a vial to represent peroxide.

    Lay salad greens over the bottom of a container that
    resembles a first aid kit. Lay the bell pepper red cross
    on top. Place chicken salad in its own compartment.
    Arrange bandages, cheese squares with heart toothpicks,
    peroxide, splints (jicama), eye patches (round
    crackers), swabs soaking in iodopovidone (gelatin
    cubes), and gauze (fruit rolls) in the container. Place
    aspirin (yellow candies) and magic grow capsules in mini
    silicone muffin cups; add to the kit.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Wed May 17 06:44:45 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man, Steve point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's my point." The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    I have always enjoyed that origin line. :)

    I am forced into having fun with mt e-mail addresses. And ragging telemarketers
    on the land lie phone.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Globe & Mail's Just Right Burger
    Categories: Five, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    375 g (12 oz) chuck; in 1" pcs
    375 g (12 oz) sirloin; in 1" pcs
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Fresh ground pepper

    This recipe requires you to grind the meat yourself.

    Place meat in a food processor and pulse about 10 times
    or until meat looks coarsely ground. Season with salt
    and pepper. Heat grill to high. Form into 4 (1" thick)
    patties and grill for 5 to 7 minutes per side or until
    desired degree of doneness.

    Serves 4.

    For the All Canadian Version, serve w/sliced red onion,
    sliced tomatoes, Dijon mustard, pickles and cole slaw.

    Onion rings & sauteed mushrooms are my favourite sides.

    Luci Waverman; The Globe and Mail, 17 May 2008

    From: http://www.theglobeandmail.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue May 16 12:00:14 2023
    Hi Dave,

    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    One of the Ruth's did create an account here the last time that Doc got irritated and (temporarily) pulled the plug.

    They are welcome to participate from here.

    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man,
    Steve point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's
    my point." The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    That's mine, Steve has a different point number and cut line. We've been pointing off of Marc Lewis for probably close to 20 years now. Started
    with Fido when we were in AZ in 1994, pointed locally and stayed with an
    AZ point until he shut down while we were in HI, about 10 years later.
    Switched to Marc, kept him thru the rest of our stay in HI, 2.5 years in
    GA and now 14 in NC.


    Title: Ruthie's Frozen Fruit Smoothie
    Categories: Live!, Beverages, Desserts
    Yield: 1 Servings

    Got to be a different Ruthie; anybody that tries to call me that gets
    swiftly and firmly corrected.

    Looks like this could be made with almost any fruit; I'd probably not
    use durian, however. (G)


    ---
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    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Thu May 18 06:58:00 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    One of the Ruth's did create an account here the last time that Doc got irritated and (temporarily) pulled the plug.

    They are welcome to participate from here.

    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man,
    Steve point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's
    my point." The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    That's mine, Steve has a different point number and cut line. We've
    been pointing off of Marc Lewis for probably close to 20 years now. Started with Fido when we were in AZ in 1994, pointed locally and
    stayed with an AZ point until he shut down while we were in HI, about
    10 years later. Switched to Marc, kept him thru the rest of our stay in HI, 2.5 years in GA and now 14 in NC.

    Steve posts in here so seldom I had not noticed.

    Title: Ruthie's Frozen Fruit Smoothie
    Categories: Live!, Beverages, Desserts
    Yield: 1 Servings

    Got to be a different Ruthie; anybody that tries to call me that gets swiftly and firmly corrected.

    Sorta like my youngest sibling. One of my grandmother's church ladies
    addressed him as "Bobby" one time and he puffed up and told her in on
    uncertain terms "My name is Robert!" Friends and family could call him
    "Rob" not absolutely no Bob or Bobby.

    I asked him how he got along in the Navy ... he said most Chiefs and
    Officers called him "Drum" which was also acceptable.

    Looks like this could be made with almost any fruit; I'd probably not
    use durian, however. (G)

    Lack of supply?

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    Title: Durian Ice Cream
    Categories: I scream, Exotic, Desserts
    Yield: 3 Servings

    6 Segments fresh durian; as
    - needed to make 4 oz (115g)
    - durian paste
    2 lg Egg yolks
    3 tb Granulated sugar; to taste
    1 ts Vanilla essence
    1 c Light cream
    1 c Whole milk

    While durian is not native to China, both China and Hong
    Kong are major import markets for this distinctive looking
    fruit. The sweet flavor and thick texture of durian makes it
    perfect for ice cream. Use fresh durian if possible.

    Remove the seeds from the durian. Use an electric mixer to
    mix the flesh into a paste. Press the paste through a fine
    sieve. You should have 4 ounces durian paste at this point.
    (If not, use more durian). Chill the durian paste until
    ready to use.

    In a medium bowl, whisk the eggs with the vanilla essence
    and sugar.

    Bring the milk and cream to a near boil over medium heat.
    Reduce the heat to low. Pour in the egg mixture, stirring
    constantly to thicken. Take care not to let the mixture
    boil, or the milk will curdle (if you see bubbles forming at
    the edge of the saucepan, take it off the stove element).

    Allow the custard to cool. Chill the custard in the freezer
    for 30 to 45 minutes, until it is just beginning to harden.
    Gradually stir in the durian paste, a tablespoon at a time.

    Either continue freezing, stirring several times throughout,
    or finish the ice cream in an ice cream maker.

    Recipe by: Rhonda Parkinson

    From: http://chinesefood.about.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Mike Powell on Wed May 17 15:43:53 2023
    Hi Mike,

    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man,
    Steve > point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's
    my point." > The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    I have always enjoyed that origin line. :)

    Thanks, I'm a seamstress for hire. We have an embroidery machine (Steve
    runs that, long story) so I had him do some sewing related motifs on a
    chambray shirt for me. Underneath the design of an antique machine, I
    have that line, as well as on my business cards. Besides the embroidery
    machine (Brother), I have a Baby Lock serger, a 2018 Pfaff (my workhorse machine), a Juki (about 2007, semi industrial), a Janomi (about 2006
    that rides in the camper), a Bernina (late 1990s, inherited from my
    aunt), a Brother (around 2015, goes to classes I don't take the Bernina
    to) and a late 1949 Singer Featherweight. That one does a beautiful
    straight stitch, good for hemming wedding gowns and such like.

    I also have a kitchen full of tools and suchlike, just used my Calphalon
    pasta cooker pot today to cook up some whole wheat penne pasta. That,
    combined with a meat sauce and a ricotta cheese mix went into 3
    casseroles. Two of them will go to a young couple in our church that
    just had twins, one is for our supper tonight.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed May 17 16:19:36 2023
    Hi Dave,

    musicians. I'll miss miss Gordon Lightfoot nearly as much as Osacar

    Peterson..

    Agreed about Gordon Lightfoot; he was good. Don't know about Osacar Peterson tho.

    Oscar was a piano picker of great talent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Peterson

    Something for me to check out in my free time. (G)


    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B


    BTW,just a head's up; I don't want you to get concerned. I'll be "off
    air" starting next Saturday until June 1 or 2. Planned event, details
    to come later. (G)

    Thanks for letting us know. I saw onn Doc's the other day when I was checking message propagation a notice in his General Chatter echo

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm
    living with her and we have a rift ongoing. I might go to Maryland to visit a
    friend and will land somewhere down here when I get back. I can be
    reached at fidosysop@gmail.com"

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to
    re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Sigh! Maybe they'll pick up some other source. Meanwhile, it's getting quieter and quieter around here.

    I may be absent myelf. I'm running a 102º feverand having trouble breeathing. Gonna have my brother Uber me to Urget care .... first to
    see if its Co-Vid (even though I'm vaxxed (twice) and have had all the booster available. It may be somethingn else entirely - which is why I
    go to the pros.

    OK, hope it's nothing serious and I'll see you back around here before I
    take off.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Thu May 18 18:16:00 2023
    I may be absent myelf. I'm running a 102. feverand having trouble breeathing. Gonna have my brother Uber me to Urget care .... first to
    see if its Co-Vid (even though I'm vaxxed (twice) and have had all the booster available. It may be somethingn else entirely - which is why I
    go to the pros.

    Hope you are doing better!

    Mike


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri May 19 05:32:04 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    musicians. I'll miss miss Gordon Lightfoot nearly as much as Osacar
    Peterson..

    Agreed about Gordon Lightfoot; he was good. Don't know about Osacar Peterson tho.

    Oscar was a piano picker of great talent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Peterson

    Something for me to check out in my free time. (G)

    Don't let them get you started listening to his music or you may not
    haave any free time available. Especially the stuff he did with Clark
    Terry.

    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B


    BTW,just a head's up; I don't want you to get concerned. I'll be "off
    air" starting next Saturday until June 1 or 2. Planned event, details
    to come later. (G)

    Thanks for letting us know. I saw onn Doc's the other day when I was checking message propagation a notice in his General Chatter echo

    "BBS GOING DOWN SOON - My latest love and i are splitting up. I'm
    living with her and we have a rift ongoing. I might go to Maryland to visit a
    friend and will land somewhere down here when I get back. I can be
    reached at fidosysop@gmail.com"

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to
    re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Sigh! Maybe they'll pick up some other source. Meanwhile, it's getting quieter and quieter around here.

    I may be absent myelf. I'm running a 102+| feverand having trouble breeathing. Gonna have my brother Uber me to Urget care .... first to
    see if its Co-Vid (even though I'm vaxxed (twice) and have had all the booster available. It may be somethingn else entirely - which is why I
    go to the pros.

    OK, hope it's nothing serious and I'll see you back around here before
    I take off.

    Well, It wassn't covid so we're going to present at Memorial Medical
    Centre so they can figure it out. I'm thinks a severe U.R.I. possibly pneumonia. Been coughing so much that all the muscles in my Thorax
    are sore. Not to mention the chest pains that come and go.

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    Title: Dave's Heart Attack on a Plate *
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Vegetables, Wine, Rice
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Toothpicks
    1 1/2 lb Beef; thin cut
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1/2 lb Bacon; chopped (easier to do
    - when still half-frozen)
    1 tb Olive oil
    1 c Red wine
    1/2 ts Minced garlic
    4 c Beef broth
    1 ts Liquid smoke
    Salt & pepper
    2 c Cooked rice

    * NOT, by any means UDD

    Pound the beef as thin as possible without creating
    holes. Cut into 3" x 3" pieces. Season with salt and
    pepper.

    Place a spoonful of onions and bacon on each piece of
    meat. Wrap each piece into a tight ball and secure
    with toothpicks.

    Heat olive oil in a medium sized sauce pan. Brown the
    meat in batches and set aside.

    Deglaze the sauce pan with the wine. Scrape all the
    brown bits off the bottom of the pan to get all the
    flavour.

    Add the garlic, beef broth, and liquid smoke to the
    sauce pan. Salt and pepper to taste.

    Return meat to the sauce pan and allow to simmer for
    at least 2 hours. The longer the better!

    Serve the meat over rice with some of the cooking
    juices.

    Servings: 4

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 19 10:11:20 2023
    Hi Dave,


    That was, most probably, Single Ruth. Married Ruth and her ol' man,
    Steve point off of a BBS somewhere. Their cut line says "Sew! that's
    my point." The address is FIDO 1:396/45.28

    That's mine, Steve has a different point number and cut line. We've
    been pointing off of Marc Lewis for probably close to 20 years now. Started with Fido when we were in AZ in 1994, pointed locally and
    stayed with an AZ point until he shut down while we were in HI, about
    10 years later. Switched to Marc, kept him thru the rest of our stay in HI, 2.5 years in GA and now 14 in NC.

    Steve posts in here so seldom I had not noticed.

    Ham radio takes up most of his time now, but not neccessarily time "on
    the air". Tinkering with equipment in one form or another is a big part
    of it. Plus, he also (just) built a "mezzinine" (shelving so he has a
    second layer of storage) for the back of the truck. A fellow ham has one
    of them, gave Steve the idea and name.

    Title: Ruthie's Frozen Fruit Smoothie DD> Categories: Live!,
    Beverages, Desserts DD> Yield: 1 Servings

    Got to be a different Ruthie; anybody that tries to call me that gets swiftly and firmly corrected.

    Sorta like my youngest sibling. One of my grandmother's church ladies addressed him as "Bobby" one time and he puffed up and told her in on uncertain terms "My name is Robert!" Friends and family could call him "Rob" not absolutely no Bob or Bobby.

    My parents didn't use it with my brothers William (he did get called
    Bill) or Donald--got shortened to Don--but no i,e, or y with any of us.
    We used the full Deborah with our younger daughter. When she was 4, we
    were part of a mother's co-operative pre school. The first day of
    school, one of the other mothers had a name tag for her--Debra. She
    (daughter) informed her that "my name is spelled D-E-B-O-R-A-H!!".
    Seventeen years later she corrected one of her drill instructors when he counted a cadence wrong; she'd been on the JROTC drill team for a couple
    of years so knew the correct count. (G)

    I asked him how he got along in the Navy ... he said most Chiefs
    and DD> Officers called him "Drum" which was also acceptable.

    That's standard military. We've a family in our church with the last
    name of Ragsdale. He served time in the Navy (subs), said that a lot of
    his fellow sailors called him "Rags", which he goes by, to this day,
    even by his wife. Some of the officers tried to get them to correct it
    but he said that it never stuck. Logical, with a name like that--and it
    fits his personality.


    Looks like this could be made with almost any fruit; I'd probably not
    use durian, however. (G)

    Lack of supply?

    As good a reason as any. We've seen it in some of the Asian stores
    around here but not yet picked one up.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Fri May 19 12:00:23 2023
    Hello Dave,

    Friday May 19 2023 05:32, you wrote to Ruth Haffly:

    Well, It wassn't covid so we're going to present at Memorial Medical Centre so they can figure it out. I'm thinks a severe U.R.I. possibly pneumonia. Been coughing so much that all the muscles in my Thorax
    are sore. Not to mention the chest pains that come and go.

    I hope you figure out what's going on. I am getting over bronchitis which came about after inhaling a good lungful of mold accidentally a few weeks ago. I'm still on antibiotics for another week or so. My coughing was so severe I was blacking out from the fits I was getting into. After a few days on the antibiotics, that calmed down but I am still having short fits of coughing (having that PE in my lungs isn't helping things either). At least it's not COVID...some small comfort in that.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Healthy Chicken Stock
    Categories: None
    Yield: 16 Servings

    2 lb Chicken bones, back and
    Neck
    Water -- to cover
    1 Celery stalk
    1 Onion -- quartered
    1 Bay leaf
    1 Carrot

    In a large stockpot combine chicken bones, back, and neck and the
    water. Add celery, onion, bay leaf, and carrot. Simmer over low heat
    1-1/2 hours. Strain.

    Makes 4 to 6 cups.

    Note: To remove fat, allow stock to chill for 2 hours. Fat will
    separate and rise to the top. Scoop fat off with spoon and discard.
    Remaining stock may be used in recipes calling for defatted chicken
    stock.

    Recipe By : the California Culinary Academy

    File
    ftp://ftp.idiscover.co.uk/pub/food/mealmaster/recipes/mmdja006.zip

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri May 19 14:49:16 2023
    Hi Dave,


    musicians. I'll miss miss Gordon Lightfoot nearly as much as Osacar
    Peterson..

    Agreed about Gordon Lightfoot; he was good. Don't know about Osacar Peterson tho.

    Oscar was a piano picker of great talent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Peterson

    Something for me to check out in my free time. (G)

    Don't let them get you started listening to his music or you may not
    haave any free time available. Especially the stuff he did with Clark Terry.

    Seeing as my free time is going to be rather limited for the next couple
    of weeks, not even taking a computer with me, I won't be checking him
    out any time soon. Closest thing to a computer will be my phone and my
    Nook.

    8<----- JUMP SHIFT ----->B

    Which means we'll lose Single Ruth and Weller if they ever deign to
    re- visit the cooking echo. Doc's was their single source BBS.

    Sigh! Maybe they'll pick up some other source. Meanwhile, it's getting quieter and quieter around here.

    I may be absent myelf. I'm running a 102+| feverand having trouble breeathing. Gonna have my brother Uber me to Urget care .... first to
    see if its Co-Vid (even though I'm vaxxed (twice) and have had all the booster available. It may be somethingn else entirely - which is why I
    go to the pros.

    OK, hope it's nothing serious and I'll see you back around here before
    I take off.

    Well, It wassn't covid so we're going to present at Memorial Medical Centre so they can figure it out. I'm thinks a severe U.R.I. possibly pneumonia. Been coughing so much that all the muscles in my Thorax
    are sore. Not to mention the chest pains that come and go.

    No fun, I've had my rounds with that or bronchitis too many times to
    recall. They've left me with a permanent chronic cough and I don't know
    how many (at least 7) broken ribs over the years.


    Title: Dave's Heart Attack on a Plate *
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Vegetables, Wine, Rice
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Toothpicks
    1 1/2 lb Beef; thin cut
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1/2 lb Bacon; chopped (easier to do
    - when still half-frozen)
    1 tb Olive oil
    1 c Red wine
    1/2 ts Minced garlic
    4 c Beef broth
    1 ts Liquid smoke
    Salt & pepper
    2 c Cooked rice

    * NOT, by any means UDD

    Stir fry some veggies to go with it and you have a pretty good meal. I
    might cut out or reduce the liquid smoke tho; that stuff is strong.

    ... America, where if you put mayo on a potato it becomes salad.

    Over in Europe if you put mayo on a potato, it's a pomme frite. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Sat May 20 06:34:13 2023
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    name of Ragsdale. He served time in the Navy (subs), said that a lot of his fellow sailors called him "Rags", which he goes by, to this day,
    even by his wife. Some of the officers tried to get them to correct it
    but he said that it never stuck. Logical, with a name like that--and it fits his personality.

    My great aunt met the love of her life in a border town. He was in the army from Texas and his real name was "Herbert". She didn't like the name and called
    him Tex. For the next 40 years he was "Tex". No one knew his real name. lol

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Tue May 23 05:29:00 2023
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Well, It wassn't covid so we're going to present at Memorial Medical Centre so they can figure it out. I'm thinks a severe U.R.I. possibly pneumonia. Been coughing so much that all the muscles in my Thorax
    are sore. Not to mention the chest pains that come and go.

    I hope you figure out what's going on. I am getting over bronchitis
    which came about after inhaling a good lungful of mold accidentally a
    few weeks ago. I'm still on antibiotics for another week or so. My coughing was so severe I was blacking out from the fits I was getting into. After a few days on the antibiotics, that calmed down but I am still having short fits of coughing (having that PE in my lungs isn't helping things either). At least it's not COVID...some small comfort
    in that.

    Twas pneumonia. Something I have been innoculated against (viral or
    bacterial) Currently I am recouping at home with anti-biotics and an
    oxygen concentrator. And hacking my lungs wrong-side out.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Soothing Lung Tea
    Categories: Five, Herbs, Beverages
    Yield: 1 serving

    1 ts mullein leaf
    1 ts marshmallow leaf or root
    1 ts fennel seed or peppermint
    1 ts plantain leaf (opt)
    16 oz Simmering water

    Steep your herbs in 16 to 32 ounces of hot water for 15
    minutes.

    If you use loose herbs, strain the tea through a piece
    of finely woven cloth or a coffee filter before drinking
    to remove all of mullein’s hairs.

    Drink 1 to 3 cups daily as needed.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.motherearthnews.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Tue May 23 21:59:02 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Twas pneumonia. Something I have been innoculated against (viral or bacterial) Currently I am recouping at home with anti-biotics and an oxygen concentrator. And hacking my lungs wrong-side out.

    I hope you're feeling better by now. Pneumonia is no joke. I'm doing
    better but this high pollen count is making me sick.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Vermont Cheddar and Maple Crackers
    Categories: Appetizers, Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 c Shredded sharp Cheddar
    2 1/2 oz Chopped pecan pieces
    1/3 c Mayonnaise
    1 tb Maple syrup
    1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    36 Whole-grain crackers

    MIX THE CHEESE, PECANS, mayonnaise, maple syrup and Worcestershire
    sauce together in a medium-sized bowl. Spread the mixture by rounded
    teaspoonfuls evenly on the crackers. Place the crackers on a flat pan
    or cookie sheet and run it under the broiler until the cheese is
    melted and bubbling. Transfer the crackers to a plate and serve at
    once. Makes 3 dozen puffs.

    JOANNA PRUESS - PRODIGY GUEST CHEFS COOKBOOK

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Wed May 24 04:40:15 2023
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Twas pneumonia. Something I have been innoculated against (viral or bacterial) Currently I am recouping at home with anti-biotics and an oxygen concentrator. And hacking my lungs wrong-side out.

    Ugh, I've had that more then once, and it doesn't get any easier. Lungs
    are so scarred from it now if I even get a cold or cough that lasts more
    then a couple days I need to see Doc for Antibiotics.

    Shawn


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Wed May 24 12:48:10 2023
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Ugh, I've had that more then once, and it doesn't get any easier.
    Lungs are so scarred from it now if I even get a cold or cough that
    lasts more then a couple days I need to see Doc for Antibiotics.

    I'm the same way. I'm finishing up antibiotics for this latest round of bronchitis. It's been years, thankfully, since I've had bronchitis but unfortunately I am prone to it and pneumonia. I last had pneumonia in 1991. Hope it stays that way.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Huevos De Muerte (Quiche of Death)
    Categories: Casserole
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 lb Hot country style sausage
    1/2 lb Mexican style pork chorizo
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1/2 c Red bell pepper; chopped
    10 Canned Jalepeno chiles;
    -chopped
    1 c Grated Cheddar cheese
    1 c Grated Jack cheese
    4 Eggs
    1 c Milk
    1 c Cilantro; washed and chopped
    Flour tortillas
    1 10-inch pie pan

    Fry sausage and chorizo together. Add onion and bell pepper and fry to
    wilt. Drain, but save, rendered fat. Beat eggs and milk together. Stir
    jalepenos and cilantro into egg/milk mixture. Using a basting brush,
    paint both sides of 3 to 4 flour tortillas with rendered fat and
    cover the bottom and sides of the pie pan, tearing the tortillas and
    overlaping as necessary to fill the gaps. Repeat, with another layer
    of tortillas painted with rendered fat as before. Spread sausage
    mixture over tortillas. Spread the cheddar and jack cheeses over
    sausage. Pour the egg mixture over the cheese. Bake in 375 degree
    oven until pie is set. Serve with salsa fresca and sliced canned
    jalepenos. Makes one 10 inch pie.

    Note: I think the original recipe called for 15 jalepenos, but when
    no one else would eat it I cut the recipe back to 10 chiles so others
    could add more heat if they desired to accommdate their own taste and
    tolerance for chile heat.

    Note: I've been feeling a little guilty about collecting all the great
    chile info and recipes from the Chile-Heads list without offering
    anything back. I posted the following recipe to FOODWINE just before
    Super Bowl 29 in reply to some anti-San Diego diatribes in the
    national news media (such as describing San Diego Charger fans as a
    bunch of undeserving, QUICHE eating, sun worshipping, wimpy surf
    bums). I thought "Chile-Heads" who don't subscribe to FOODWINE (I no
    longer do) might enjoy it. I found the recipe in a newspaper (the
    Orange County Register) about 15 to 20 years ago. I've altered it a
    bit over the years, but it's still pretty close to the original...so,
    with apologies to the original author...

    Rich McCormack (Poway, CA) aka rmccormack@aol.com

    CHILE-HEADS ARCHIVES

    From the Chile-Heads recipe list. Downloaded from Glen's MM Recipe
    Archive, http://www.erols.com/hosey.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Jun 2 13:19:01 2023
    Hi Shawn,


    name of Ragsdale. He served time in the Navy (subs), said that a lot of his fellow sailors called him "Rags", which he goes by, to this day,
    even by his wife. Some of the officers tried to get them to correct it
    but he said that it never stuck. Logical, with a name like that--and it fits his personality.

    My great aunt met the love of her life in a border town. He was in
    the army from Texas and his real name was "Herbert". She didn't like
    the name and called him Tex. For the next 40 years he was "Tex". No
    one knew his real name. lol

    Probably had to hunt down a marriage license or similar to find the real
    name. One of our pastors in HI was always called "Dub". Even his
    obituary just put his first two initials, then "Dub" so very few people
    knew his real name. He'd served in the state for, IIRC, 40 some years
    and quite well known--except for the real name. (G)

    We got back yesterday afternoon from an Alaska (and bit into Canada) cruise/tour. Saw a lot of snow, ice, bald eagles, water, whales, but
    only caught a glimpse of a moose. Food, for the most part was good, had
    a couple of meals on the ship I ended up not enjoying but did find a
    great strawberry/greens/feta/candied pecans/craisins salad with balsamic vinegarette dressing at our hotel in Fairbanks.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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