• Re: Gardening was: Spicy

    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Fri Feb 24 01:48:02 2023
    On 02-23-23 05:46, Dave Drum <=-
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    We have a bay window which has a
    shelf at about the three foot level. It gets pretty decent after noon sun. Using pots, we've successfully grown several spice plants and
    last year a cherry tomato plant.

    Sort of like your deck in Columbia, then?

    Slightly. Both used pots to grow things. Both got only afternoon soil.
    But current is inside and thus not subject to cold weather.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Open Face Hamburgers
    Categories: Beef, D/g, Boat
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 lb Beef,GROUND ROUND
    (or 90%)
    8 Buns
    1 lg Onion, spanish; sliced
    pn Salt; to taste
    pn Pepper; to taste

    Do not butter buns. Split buns and toast buns under broiler - watch
    carefully. Remove buns from oven when nicely toasted and let
    cool. Thinly spread raw meat over entire top of bun Be sure to
    cover edges of bun. Place under broiler. Watch carefully.
    Cook to desired doneness.

    Top with raw onion slices.

    Since this is using the oven, plan stove top extras. Good with potato
    salad, pasta salad, etc.

    == Courtesy of Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md. ==

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Dale Shipp on Fri Feb 24 09:53:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We have a bay window which has a
    shelf at about the three foot level. It gets pretty decent after noon sun. Using pots, we've successfully grown several spice plants and
    last year a cherry tomato plant.

    Sort of like your deck in Columbia, then?

    Slightly. Both used pots to grow things. Both got only afternoon
    soil. But current is inside and thus not subject to cold weather.

    Which extends the growing season. Bv)= And makes sure the plants get
    whater when they need it rather than only when some important outdoor
    activity is planned. Bv))=

    I remeber fondly the rigani you had in the pot last Echo picnic I
    attended. I've had no luck growing some from seed so I'm going to
    spend the $$$ and have Burpee's send me plants. Then pray they seed
    themselves for subsequent generations.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cottage Fried Spuds
    Categories: Potatoes, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Russet potatoes; peeled, in
    - small (1/4") cubes
    Oil to deep fry

    MMMMM--------------------GARLIC-BUTTER SAUCE-------------------------
    1/2 c Butter
    1 ts Garlic powder
    1/4 tb Dried basil
    2 ts Dried Greek oregano (rigani)

    PREPARE THE POTATOES: Wash and peel the spuds. Cut them
    into 1/4" batons (using your French-fry cutter) then
    cut the batons into 1/4" cubes. Blanch them in your deep
    fryer then allow to drain cool. While they are cooling -

    MAKE THE GARLIC BUTTER SAUCE: In a small saucepan melt
    butter, add garlic and saute until cooked. Add dried
    oregano and dried basil and stir until heated through.

    Once the sauce is prepared set it aside but keep it
    warm while you drop the potatoes back into the fryer
    to finish cooking and browning.

    When the cubes are done to your liking drain them and
    portion out. Pour the garlic butter sauce over and
    serve alongside your eggs and meat.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sat Feb 25 01:45:02 2023
    On 02-24-23 09:53, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Gardening was: Spicy <=-

    Slightly. Both used pots to grow things. Both got only afternoon
    soil. But current is inside and thus not subject to cold weather.

    EDIT: sun, not soil.

    Which extends the growing season. Bv)= And makes sure the plants get whater when they need it rather than only when some important outdoor activity is planned. Bv))=

    I remeber fondly the rigani you had in the pot last Echo picnic I attended. I've had no luck growing some from seed so I'm going to
    spend the $$$ and have Burpee's send me plants. Then pray they seed themselves for subsequent generations.

    We never tried to start anything from seed before. I'll have to
    research when and how to plant those campari tomato seeds you pointed us
    to. They came in the US mail today.

    The spicy origani we bought as seedling plants two years ago. They grew
    here quite well two years ago, and then made it through the winter
    thanks to being inside. We still have a pretty decent supply of fresh
    and *LOTS* of dried. Do you have any nurseries within reach -- rather
    than trying mail order?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Creole Black Beans
    Categories: Crockpot, Easy, Testing
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Cajun style sausage
    2 ea 15 oz can black beans
    -drained
    1 c Chopped onions
    1 c Chopped green peppers
    1 c Chopped celery
    4 ea Garlic cloves - minced
    1 ts Dried oregano
    1 1/4 ts Dried thyme
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    1/2 ts White pepper
    1 ea Chicken bouilon cube
    2 ea Bay leaves
    1 cn 14.5 oz stewed tomatoes

    NOTE FIRST TRY: Used Johnsonville Hot Beef Smoked Sausage. This was
    too spicy a sausage for this dish - the end result was just HOT but
    no real qualities. Try smoked sausage and add some creole seasoning
    along with other spices.

    Slice sausage into 1/2 inch sliced and brown in fry pan.

    Combine all ingredients in slow cooker.

    Cover - cook on low for 8 hours or on high for 4 hours.

    Remove bay leaves.

    Serve over rice.

    Cooked 4 hours in 4 quart crockpot.

    Tested 4/2/06 - see NOTE above.

    From: Fix it and forget it Recipes for Entertaining.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Sat Feb 25 05:20:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I remeber fondly the rigani you had in the pot last Echo picnic I attended. I've had no luck growing some from seed so I'm going to
    spend the $$$ and have Burpee's send me plants. Then pray they seed themselves for subsequent generations.

    We never tried to start anything from seed before. I'll have to
    research when and how to plant those campari tomato seeds you pointed
    us to. They came in the US mail today.

    Here's a link to a very good page on starting tomatoes from seed. I note
    that the author uses old styro (plastic) egg cartons as I used to do
    rather than buying "starting pans" from the garden department down the
    K-Mart.

    https://tinyurl.com/GROW-TOE-MATERS

    The spicy origani we bought as seedling plants two years ago. They
    grew here quite well two years ago, and then made it through the winter thanks to being inside. We still have a pretty decent supply of fresh
    and *LOTS* of dried. Do you have any nurseries within reach -- rather than trying mail order?

    We have a number as well as my favourite family owned grocery store, Humphrey's, from whom I have bought tomato and pepper seedling from in
    past years. I'll ask Hope next time I'm in about herb starts.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Menemen (Turkish Scrambled Eggs w/Tomato)
    Categories: Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies, Breads
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    1 md White onion; peeled, diced
    1/2 ts Dried oregano; more as
    - needed
    1/4 ts Aleppo pepper; more as
    - needed
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1 Mild but flavorful long
    - green chile; Turkish
    - carliston, Hungarian
    - banana or Anaheim, stemmed
    - halved lengthwise, seeded,
    - then diced
    1 c Peeled, chopped fresh
    - heirloom tomato; or canned
    - diced San Marzano tomatoes
    - w/their juices
    4 lg Eggs
    1/4 c Chopped fresh parsley; + 2
    tb For garnish
    1 tb Unsalted butter (opt)
    Flatbread; toasted or
    - untoasted, for serving

    Heat the oil in a nonstick medium skillet over
    medium-high. Add the onion, oregano and Aleppo pepper,
    season with salt and pepper, and cook, stirring
    occasionally, until onion is translucent, 7 to 9
    minutes. Stir in the green pepper and cook until soft, 5
    to 7 minutes.

    While the onions and peppers are cooking, purée half the
    tomatoes in a food processor or blender. Once the onions
    and peppers are soft, add the remaining chopped tomatoes
    to the onions and peppers. Crack the eggs into a medium
    bowl, add the puréed tomatoes and whisk until foamy.

    Once the mixture in the skillet comes to a simmer, stir
    in the 1/4 cup parsley and the butter, if using. Reduce
    heat to low, add the egg mixture on top and cook,
    stirring occasionally, until the eggs are set but still
    soft, 3 to 4 minutes. Taste, adding a little more salt,
    oregano or Aleppo pepper, if needed. Sprinkle with
    remaining parsley and serve directly from the skillet,
    with flatbread alongside.

    by Joan Nathan

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sun Feb 26 02:10:00 2023
    On 02-25-23 05:20, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Gardening was: Spicy <=-

    Here's a link to a very good page on starting tomatoes from seed. I
    note that the author uses old styro (plastic) egg cartons as I used to
    do rather than buying "starting pans" from the garden department down
    the K-Mart.

    https://tinyurl.com/GROW-TOE-MATERS

    Thanks. I have read and bookmarked that web site for future study. It
    does say things that I think not 100% relevant to my situation. It
    talks about grow lights, and time tables for planting. I will not be
    using grow lights, and because I will be planting indoors the time
    tables are not completely relevant.

    One problem is that I got 50 seeds, and only will want two or three
    plants. I guess I'll save the excess seeds for next spring and hope
    that they will still be viable a year from now.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Blackeye Pea And Pork Gumbo(Revised)
    Categories: Cajun, Gumbo, Pork
    Yield: 2 servings

    MMMMM------------------------FOR THE ROUX-----------------------------
    1/4 c Flour
    1/4 c Oil
    1/2 c Diced onion
    1/4 c Diced green pepper
    1/4 c Diced celery
    1/2 tb Chopped garlic
    1 qt Pork or chicken stock

    MMMMM-----------------------SPICE MIXTURE----------------------------
    1 t File
    1/2 t Thyme
    1/2 t Chile powder
    1/2 t Paprika
    1/2 t White pepper
    1 t Black pepper
    1/2 t Cayenne pepper
    1 Bay leaves

    MMMMM-----------------------COLLARD GREENS----------------------------
    1 c Greens, cut into small
    -strips
    1 T Cider vinegar
    1 T Sugar
    1 t Crystal's hot sauce
    ds Salt & pepper
    5 sl Bacon
    -peanut oil to cover pan

    MMMMM----------------------BLACK EYED PEAS---------------------------
    1/3 c Dried black eyed peas
    (Makes 1 cup cooked peas)
    1 1/2 c Water
    1 Chicken bouillon cube

    MMMMM--------------------VEGETABLES AND MEAT-------------------------
    4 oz Okra (optional)
    1 c Cooked blackeyed peas
    1/2 c Bacon braised greens
    6 oz Pork butt (raw weight)
    -smoked and chopped

    Slice okra crosswise 1/2 inch wide and sear in oil until lightly
    browned. Set aside.

    Cover dried peas with water. Bring to a boil for 2 minutes. Turn off
    and let sit for one hour. Drain. Cover with 1 1/2 cup water, add
    chicken bouillon cube. Bring to boil and then turn down to simmer for
    15 minutes. Drain, saving liquid and peas in separate containers to
    add to gumbo at end.

    Cook collards or mustards in bacon and onions with sugar, vinegar, hot
    sauce and salt and pepper. We used pre-cooked bacon, cut into 1/2
    inch squares -- plus peanut oil.

    Cut smoked pork into 1/2 inch cubes. Ham should also work.

    Make a dark roux using the oil and flour. (Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana
    Kitchen has some good roux techniques, advice and gumbo recipes)

    As soon roux is the right color (just past red and turning back to
    brown but not scorched or smelling really burnt) add the diced
    vegetables and garlic. Stir to mix vegetables and roux. Deglaze pan
    with some of the stock. Add the spice mixture and mix in well.

    Add the stock and stirring very frequently bring up to a simmer.
    Simmer for about 1 hour stirring lots. Skim all of the fat that
    separates out.

    Taste the gumbo. It should not taste pasty and like the roux
    anymore. If it does you may need to add more stock. This is
    different every time depending on the exact measurement of flour,
    strength of starch in the flour, degree of cooking of the roux among
    other things so add the stock in stages and let it cook and come
    together before adding more.

    When the gumbo is the right consistency add the okra, blackeyed peas,
    reserved juice from cooking the black eyed peas, greens, and pork.
    Allow to return to a simmer and adjust the seasoning. Serve with
    steamed rice or potato salad

    Recipe from http://www.cochonrestaurant.com/html/recipes.html

    Tested 2/10/11

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Dale Shipp on Sun Feb 26 06:23:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Here's a link to a very good page on starting tomatoes from seed. I
    note that the author uses old styro (plastic) egg cartons as I used to
    do rather than buying "starting pans" from the garden department down
    the K-Mart.

    https://tinyurl.com/GROW-TOE-MATERS

    Thanks. I have read and bookmarked that web site for future study. It does say things that I think not 100% relevant to my situation. It
    talks about grow lights, and time tables for planting. I will not be using grow lights, and because I will be planting indoors the time
    tables are not completely relevant.

    One problem is that I got 50 seeds, and only will want two or three plants. I guess I'll save the excess seeds for next spring and hope
    that they will still be viable a year from now.

    When saving seeds I used pill bottles and put a silica gel packet in
    the container with the seeds the help prevent accidental germination.
    The seeds should remain viable for quite some time.

    From National Geographic:

    The oldest plant ever to be regenerated has been grown from 32,000-year-
    old seedsrCobeating the previous recordholder by some 30,000 years.
    (Related: "'Methuselah' Tree Grew From 2,000-Year-Old Seed.")

    A Russian team discovered a seed cache of Silene stenophylla, a flowering plant native to Siberia, that had been buried by an Ice Age squirrel near
    the banks of the Kolyma River (map). Radiocarbon dating confirmed that
    the seeds were 32,000 years old.

    -+-

    I save seeds from plants that I wish to grow again ... like Mexi-bells
    and/or other chilies.

    I have made this recipe with Italian sausage or Chorizo more times than
    with the beef called out in the ingredients listing. Bv)=

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    Title: Baked Stuffed Mexi-Bell Peppers
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Chilies, Rice, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 tb Oil
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    1 lb Ground Beef
    1 1/2 c Canned diced tomatoes
    - w/chilies
    1 1/2 ts Dried basil
    1 ts Dried oregano
    2 tb Mexene chilli spice mix
    Salt & pepper
    2 c Cooked rice; brown or white
    1 c Cooked black beans
    1/2 c Shoepeg corn or niblets *
    1 2/3 c Sharp cheddar; shredded,
    - divided
    4 lg Mexi-bell peppers; tops cut
    - off, cored

    Set oven @ 350-|F/175-|C.

    Heat oil in a large skillet, add onion and cook over
    medium heat until soft.

    Add garlic and beef, cook beef until no longer pink,
    breaking up meat with a spoon.

    Add tomatoes, basil, oregano, chilli mix, salt and
    pepper, reduce heat and simmer 10 minutes.

    In a large bowl, combine rice, beans and corn.

    Add meat mixture and 1 cup of cheese, mix to combine.

    Spoon stuffing into peppers and place in a baking dish.

    Add 1/4 cup water to the bottom of the dish, cover with
    foil and bake 30-40 minutes or until peppers are tender.

    Remove foil, top with remaining cheese and bake until
    cheese is melted.

    * NOTES: I used a small can of Green Giant Mexi-Corn to
    good effect. I also used a fairly spicy jarred red
    enchilada sauce instead of the traditional "red gravy"
    (marinara). - UDD

    From: http://www.food.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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