• Pick your own fruit

    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Thu Feb 9 00:47:06 2023
    On 02-08-23 05:31, Dave Drum <=-
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    Here's another sorbet I like to make when strawberries are "in" and I
    can pick my own.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
    Title: Strawberry Sorbet

    We never went for pick your own strawberries. The farm where we went
    for that sort of thing had them growing on the ground. Even 40 years
    ago our knees, legs and back would not have tolerated hardly any of such action.

    When you did do pick your own, how much went to the weigh station versus
    how much went to belly without being weighed?

    We stuck to picking black and red raspberries that they had trained onto
    eight foot tall trestles. Also blueberries where one held a bucket
    under the branch and just raked the berries off the branch into the
    bucket.


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    Title: Constructing The Perfect Crisp Part 1
    Categories: Fruit, Pies, Info
    Yield: 1 servings

    Apple crisp

    It takes just a little sophistication to make this rustic dessert
    sing

    My recipe for apple crisp is an award-winner, though the first-place
    honor was only earned in a Regal Cinemas-sponsored recipe contest.

    So this apple season, I decided to develop a new version that could
    compete in any baking arena, and in doing so create the very crisp I
    crave: one with a layer of sweet-tart apples that are tender but
    keep some body and a toothsome, crumbly topping that lives up to its
    name.

    Recipes included with this story: Sunday Evening Apple Crisp,
    Michelle Vernier's Apple Crisp, Apple-Huckleberry Crisp

    The task, however, required a more technical approach than I'd first
    imagined. "Crisps are one of those deceptively simple desserts.
    There's not much that goes into them, so everything really needs to
    be perfect," says Wildwood pastry chef Michelle Vernier. The secret,
    she says, is twofold: a tart mix of apples that will break down into
    juicy morsels without turning to mush, and a methodically measured
    and mixed topping.

    Different chefs have different philosophies. At Paley's Place,
    pastry chef Lauren Fortgang combines the fruit in her crisps with
    sugar and flour only, to let the flavor of the apples and berries
    shine. She puts the cinnamon in the topping. Fresh fruit is key to a
    good crisp, and not just any apple will do. To avoid making a base
    with an applesaucelike consistency, choose baking apples such as
    Pippins, Granny Smiths, Gravensteins and Golden Delicious. And don't
    rely just on one variety; Paley's Place pastry chef Lauren Fortgang
    finds that mixing different varieties together is key to creating
    layers of nuanced flavor in the base. (See the results of FOODday's
    apple tasting.) Vernier uses a squeeze of lemon juice and a dash of
    cinnamon to create a counterpoint to the sweet topping, though
    purists prefer to doctor the fruit's tart bite with only a shower of
    sugar. "Then, it can really be about the flavor of the apples,"
    Fortgang says. "There is so much cinnamon in the topping I make, so
    you really need to get that bite of the apples and see how great the
    apples taste."

    More important than the apple base is a memorable topping, one in
    which everyday pantry ingredients come together to create a
    streuselly, crunchy-tender texture, often spiked with spices,
    oatmeal or nuts. The precise ratio of butter, flour and sugar is
    what gives a topping its character. Vernier stands by one part sugar
    to one part flour to three-fourths part butter.

    Chefs also cut white sugar with dark brown sugar to give the crust
    the positive character traits of each: The white sugar helps the
    topping get crisp while brown sugar adds a touch of moisture and a
    deep, molasses flavor. While some cooks might be tempted to up the
    nutrition quotient a bit by using some whole-wheat flour with their
    white flour, Vernier cautions against the mix, as it will create too
    dense of a topping. Plus, white flour absorbs liquid better and has
    a more neutral flavor, Vernier says.

    A crisp is exquisitely simple. But the type of apples you choose,
    and the proportions of flour, sugar, butter and oatmeal you top them
    with, can mean the difference between an OK crisp and one that's
    incredible. Butter is the last key ingredient in the crust, and it
    must be chilled for it to perform properly. To add the chilled
    butter with ease, Fortgang uses a mixer fitted with a paddle
    attachment, while Vernier prefers pulsing the topping in a food
    processor for speed and consistency. She does, however, recommend
    mixing any additional ingredients, such as oatmeal or nuts, in
    afterward by hand so they don't lose their crunchy quality while
    she's cutting in the butter. It's important to avoid over-mixing the
    topping, which results in one that more closely resembles a solid
    mass of cookie dough than the desired crumbly jumble. "You want a
    little crumb and a little powder in the bowl," Fortgang says. "And,
    a couple of leftover butter chunks won't hurt because they'll melt
    into the crisp when you are baking it. It is better to under-mix it
    instead of over-mixing it."
    From: Slashfood.Com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Thu Feb 9 16:59:00 2023
    We never went for pick your own strawberries. The farm where we went
    for that sort of thing had them growing on the ground. Even 40 years
    ago our knees, legs and back would not have tolerated hardly any of such action.

    My grandfather grew stawberries and, IIRC, that is how they grew... close
    to the ground. I have never seen them grown tall enough, like
    blackberries do, that you didn't have to pick them from near the ground.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Fri Feb 10 02:13:06 2023
    On 02-09-23 16:59, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Pick your own fruit <=-


    We never went for pick your own strawberries. The farm where we went
    for that sort of thing had them growing on the ground. Even 40 years
    ago our knees, legs and back would not have tolerated hardly any of such action.

    My grandfather grew stawberries and, IIRC, that is how they grew...
    close to the ground. I have never seen them grown tall enough, like blackberries do, that you didn't have to pick them from near the
    ground.

    I have seen adverts for "strawberry barrels" in which cut outs in the
    sides of a barrel allow for planting strawberries up the side of the
    barrel. I have no idea if they really worked, and have serious doubts
    that it would be feasible in a commercial setting.



    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Black Beans And Rice
    Categories: D/g, Beans, Rice, Boat
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 c Rice, Uncle Ben, converted
    2 1/2 c Water
    2 cn Black beans (16 oz. each
    -can)
    1 cn Stewed tomatoes(14.5 oz),
    -or stewed tomatoes for
    -chili
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    1 cn Corn(11 oz) or 10 oz
    -package frozen corn
    2 tb Salsa
    3/4 ts Ground cumin; or to taste
    ds -ground black pepper, to
    -taste

    MMMMM---------------------------EXTRAS--------------------------------
    1 pk Muffin Mix, corn
    1 Egg
    1/2 c Milk; guessing

    20 minutes
    serves 4

    Bring water to boil in medium saucepan. Add rice, reduce
    heat, cover and simmer on low for 30 minutes or until rice is
    tender.

    Meanwhile, drain beans and put into another medium size
    saucepan. Add tomatoes, chilies, salsa, and cumin. Cook mixture
    over low heat about 10 minutes.

    To serve, spoon rice into deep bowls. Ladle on black beans
    and sauce. Leftovers can be thinned with broth, heated and served
    as a soup.
    == Courtesy of Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md. ==

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Fri Feb 10 16:08:00 2023
    My grandfather grew stawberries and, IIRC, that is how they grew... close to the ground. I have never seen them grown tall enough, like blackberries do, that you didn't have to pick them from near the
    ground.

    I have seen adverts for "strawberry barrels" in which cut outs in the
    sides of a barrel allow for planting strawberries up the side of the
    barrel. I have no idea if they really worked, and have serious doubts
    that it would be feasible in a commercial setting.

    Maybe not, but that is a pretty neat concept and would be good for someone
    who likes strawberries but that also has difficulty harvesting them from
    their ground-level habitat.

    Mike


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sat Feb 11 00:39:08 2023
    On 02-10-23 16:08, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Pick your own fruit <=-

    I have seen adverts for "strawberry barrels" in which cut outs in the
    sides of a barrel allow for planting strawberries up the side of the
    barrel. I have no idea if they really worked, and have serious doubts
    that it would be feasible in a commercial setting.

    Maybe not, but that is a pretty neat concept and would be good for
    someone who likes strawberries but that also has difficulty harvesting them from their ground-level habitat.

    True. If I wanted really fresh strawberries back then, I'd pick them
    from the counter at the pick-it-yourself farm:-}}


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Sweet Bastela (Creamy Layered Pastry)
    Categories: Ethiopian, Dessert
    Yield: 6 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------CUSTARD (SEE NOTE)--------------------------
    2 c Milk
    1/4 c Sugar
    4 lg Eggs
    1 ts Vanilla
    1 ts Cinnamon

    MMMMM---------------------------PASTRY--------------------------------
    10 ea Filo pastry sheets
    3 tb Butter, melted

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    2 tb Raspberry OR strawberry
    -conserve
    1/2 c Coarsely chopped almonds

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    Confectioners' sugar

    NOTE: It is easier to use Jello Brand Custard Mix found at your
    grocery store - works fine.

    To make custard:

    In a heavy saucepan, heat the milk and sugar to scalding. Whirl the
    eggs in a blender while slowly pouring in the hot milk. Add vanilla
    and cinnamon. If the custard does not thicken enoubh to coat a
    spoon, return it to the pan and reheat it gentlym, stirring
    constantly until it does thicken. Should the custard curdle slightly
    while thickening, simply blend it again. Refergriate

    Using a 7 or 8 inch plate as a guide, cut two circles from each sheet
    of the filo. On buttered paking pans, stack the filo sheets, four
    sheets to a stack, brussing every second sheet with melted butter.

    Bake in preheated 350 degree oven for about 20 minutes or until filo
    is golden brown.

    Assemble: Begin with one pair of filo circles. Spread all of the
    conserve evenly over the bottom layer of filo and sprinkle on a few
    of the chopped almonds. Add another pair of filo circles, some
    almonds and some of the egg custard. Continue to layer the filo,
    almonds and custard until all of the ingredients are used. End with
    a pair of filo circles.

    Sprinkle the pastry with confectioners' sugar and cut into six wedges.
    Serve immediately.

    Sundays at Moosewood

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Fri Feb 10 11:29:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    We never went for pick your own strawberries. The farm where we went
    for that sort of thing had them growing on the ground. Even 40 years
    ago our knees, legs and back would not have tolerated hardly any of such action.

    My grandfather grew stawberries and, IIRC, that is how they grew...
    close to the ground. I have never seen them grown tall enough, like blackberries do, that you didn't have to pick them from near the
    ground.

    I have seen adverts for "strawberry barrels" in which cut outs in the sides of a barrel allow for planting strawberries up the side of the barrel. I have no idea if they really worked, and have serious doubts that it would be feasible in a commercial setting.

    Probably work as well as those "potato barrel" deals that were all the
    rage a couple decades ago - sort of a good idea but not a big labour
    saver or convenience.

    https://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/how-to-make-a-potato-barrel/

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bacon Glazed Potatoes
    Categories: Pork, Potatoes, Poultry, Herbs, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 1/2 lb Potatoes; sweet or white
    4 c Chicken stock
    1 cl Garlic; peeled, mashed
    1 California bay leaf
    1 lg Tomato; chunked
    Thyme, salt & pepper
    8 oz Thick sliced bacon; in small
    - dice
    1 sm White onion; thin sliced

    Peel and boil potatoes in stock seasoned with garlic,
    bay leaf, thyme and tomato. Simmer until tender. Remove
    potatoes and strain the broth, removing solids.

    Cook the bacon and onion together, taking care not to
    burn the onion.

    Add the potatoes and 2 cups of the strained broth to the
    bacon. Reduce the liquid to a glaze, turning potatoes
    occasionally to coat.

    From: GFS Marketplace e-mail advertisement

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sat Feb 11 09:37:00 2023
    True. If I wanted really fresh strawberries back then, I'd pick them
    from the counter at the pick-it-yourself farm:-}}

    LOL, sounds like my kind of pick-it-yourself. There are some folks that
    prefer to pick things themselves, but I also think some of that is for entertainment, like for couples who have children who are still young
    enough to have fun doing that but that are also old enough to understand
    they have to be careful while doing it.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sat Feb 11 09:49:00 2023
    Probably work as well as those "potato barrel" deals that were all the
    rage a couple decades ago - sort of a good idea but not a big labour
    saver or convenience.

    https://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/how-to-make-a-potato-barrel/

    Are the hang-upside-down tomato planters still a thing? :)

    Mike


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sun Feb 12 00:06:04 2023
    On 02-11-23 09:37, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Pick your own fruit <=-


    True. If I wanted really fresh strawberries back then, I'd pick them
    from the counter at the pick-it-yourself farm:-}}

    LOL, sounds like my kind of pick-it-yourself. There are some folks
    that prefer to pick things themselves, but I also think some of that is for entertainment, like for couples who have children who are still
    young enough to have fun doing that but that are also old enough to understand they have to be careful while doing it.

    You are correct in your last statement. We did it when our kids were
    young, but it stopped when they got to be teenagers and had better
    things to do.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Quick Fruit Cobbler
    Categories: Ruth haffly, Picnic
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 c Sugar
    1 c Flour
    1 c Milk
    2 ts Baking powder
    pn Salt
    2 c Fruit
    (Fresh, frozen, or canned)

    MMMMM----------------------------HINT---------------------------------
    1/2 ts Cinnamon for blueberry
    1/2 ts Almond extract for cherry

    Preheat oven to 350

    In large bowl combine sugar, flour, milk, baking powder and salt.

    Pour into greased or sprayed a 9 x 9 pan, (used 7 x 11 pan) add fruit.
    (May be doubled for 13 x 9 pan)

    Bake 40 minutes.

    At the 2007 Picnic Ruth made a 9 x 13 version of this cobbler with
    fresh peaches. She peeled and sliced the peaches.

    2010 Virginia Beach Picnic Ruth brought 9 x 13 blueberry version
    which she made Dairy Free.

    Signature recipe of Ruth Haffly.
    Picnic 2007

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Feb 12 06:54:26 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Probably work as well as those "potato barrel" deals that were all the
    rage a couple decades ago - sort of a good idea but not a big labour
    saver or convenience.

    https://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/how-to-make-a-potato-barrel/

    Are the hang-upside-down tomato planters still a thing? :)

    I was not aware of the "updide down" variety. I have done, in past,
    hanging (from the porch eaves) tomatoes. Also window boxes.

    Went and looked via the Bing search engine and found a pretty good item
    on "The Spruce" about upside-down planters. Their recommendations to do
    small tomatoes make me wish I had read that before doing my own right-
    side-up hanging planters. Big tomatoes are *heavy* and will breaks vines
    that are unsupported. If I were to do it today I'd grow nothing bigger
    than cherry/grape tomatoes and Campari or Roma (plum) tomatoes.

    https://tinyurl.com/SPRUCEMATERS

    For my favoured types - beefsteak, Mortgage Lifter, etc. I use my wire
    trellis frames in the raised bed garden. A beefteak tomato can go to
    two or more pounds in a single berry. (Yes, tomatoes are berries).

    Best thing about growing your won 'maters is that they have *flavour*
    other than the soggy cardboard of most store bought varieties.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken w/Tomatoes & Capers
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs, Wine
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 Boned, skinned breasts or
    - thighs (about 2 1/4 lb)
    Salt & fresh ground white
    - pepper
    2 tb Olive oil
    2 tb Butter
    6 tb Fine chopped shallots
    2 ts Fine chopped garlic
    4 ts Fine chopped fresh tarragon
    +=OR=+
    2 ts Dried tarragon
    8 Rpe Campari tomatoes; in
    - small cubes
    +=OR=+
    28 oz Can diced tomatoes; drained
    1/4 c Red wine vinegar
    1/4 c Drained capers
    1 c Dry white wine or cider
    2 tb Tomato paste
    1/4 c Chopped fresh parsley leaves

    Sprinkle the chicken with salt and pepper. Heat the oil
    and butter in a heavy-bottom skillet. Add the chicken
    breasts and saute over medium-high heat, turning the
    pieces often until lightly browned, about 5 minutes.

    Add the shallots and garlic around the chicken. Cook
    briefly; add the tarragon, tomatoes, vinegar, capers,
    wine and tomato paste. Stir to dissolve the brown
    particles adhering to the bottom of the skillet.

    Blend well, bring to a boil, and then cover and simmer
    for 9 minutes. Sprinkle with parsley and serve.

    By: Pierre Franey

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sun Feb 12 09:54:00 2023
    Went and looked via the Bing search engine and found a pretty good item
    on "The Spruce" about upside-down planters. Their recommendations to do
    small tomatoes make me wish I had read that before doing my own right- side-up hanging planters. Big tomatoes are *heavy* and will breaks vines
    that are unsupported. If I were to do it today I'd grow nothing bigger
    than cherry/grape tomatoes and Campari or Roma (plum) tomatoes.

    I usually plant cherry tomatoes in pots and let them grow up a trellis. I
    use old shoe strings to tie the vines as they get taller, so the don't blow over and get crimped. Some of them get to be over 6' tall.

    Best thing about growing your won 'maters is that they have *flavour*
    other than the soggy cardboard of most store bought varieties.

    My favorite thing about cherry tomatoes is going out and picking a ripe one
    on a warm summer day, especially if it has just rained. Very tasty!

    Mike


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Mon Feb 13 00:42:02 2023
    On 02-12-23 06:54, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Mike Powell about Re: Pick your own fruit <=-

    right- side-up hanging planters. Big tomatoes are *heavy* and will
    breaks vines that are unsupported. If I were to do it today I'd grow nothing bigger than cherry/grape tomatoes and Campari or Roma (plum) tomatoes.

    I've not seen Campari seeds or plantings where we shop, but we would
    certainly buy any plantings if we could find them. Campari is the only
    tomato that we will buy. They do have flavor.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Tex Mex Chicken/Rice Casserole
    Categories: Leftovers, Tested
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1/2 c Chopped onion
    2 tb Olive oil
    6 7/8 oz Pkg chicken Fajita Rice-roni
    (See Note)
    Use spice packet in mix
    1 cn 14 oz chicken broth
    Plus
    2 oz Water
    2 c Chopped cooked chicken
    1 c Chopped tomatoes (2 med)
    1 cn Chopped chili peppers
    1 ts Dried basil
    1 1/2 ts Chili powder
    1/8 ts Ground cumin
    1/8 ts Black pepper
    1/2 c Shredded cheddar cheese
    (or more)

    Original recipe called for straight chicken flavored rice and
    vermiclli mix. I grabbed the wrong box from the shelf at the store -
    and just went with it.

    In medium saucepan cook onion in hot oil over medium heaat until
    tender. Stir in mix (includeing seasoning pkg) cook and stir for two
    minutes. Stire in broth and water. Bring up to boiling, reduce heat.
    Cover and simmer for 20 minutes. (Liquid will not be fully absorbed)

    Pour mixture into a large bowl. Stir in chicken, tomatoes, chili
    peppers, basil, chili powder, cumin and black pepper. Stir well.

    Place in a 2 quart casserole.

    Bake covered in a 425 oven for 25 minutes. Sprinkle with cheese -
    place back in oven and let stand for five minutes.

    Variation of recipe from BHG.com recipes.

    Tested 11/22/10. Something different to do with left over chicken or
    turkey. Microwaves okay for leftovers. Would do again.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Mon Feb 13 00:49:04 2023
    On 02-12-23 09:54, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Re: Pick your own fruit <=-

    I usually plant cherry tomatoes in pots and let them grow up a
    trellis. I use old shoe strings to tie the vines as they get taller,
    so the don't blow over and get crimped. Some of them get to be over 6' tall.
    Our appartment has a bay window that faces west and thus gets nice
    afternoon sun. We have planted things there for the past two summers
    with decent results. Last summer we did cherry tomatoes. I had stakes
    and tied the branches to them with strips of thin plastic (think like
    newspaper bags). It worked quite well -- they did grow to six feet,
    even though we tried to get them to bush out instead of going up.

    My favorite thing about cherry tomatoes is going out and picking a
    ripe one on a warm summer day, especially if it has just rained. Very tasty!

    You got that right!

    This is a recipe you might like. It has dehydrating instructions that
    we used to send to our vegetarian son when he was stationed with the
    Army in the middle east. Feel free to delete the part about
    dehydration.

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    Title: Black Chickpea Curry
    Categories: Crockpot, Indian, Testing, Dehydrating
    Yield: 7 Cups

    1 1/2 c Dried black chickpeas
    1/2 md Onion, diced
    1 md Tomato, diced
    1 ts Grated ginger (maybe more)
    3 ea Cloves garlic, pressed
    1 ea Serrano pepper, stem removed
    Seeded, diced
    1/2 tb Cumin seeds
    1/2 tb Turmeric powder
    1/2 ts Red Indian Chili Powder
    1/2 tb Salt
    3 1/2 c Water (SEE NOTE BELOW)
    1 t Dry cilantro (can use fresh)
    1 tb Lemon juice.

    Thoroughly clean and wash the chickpeas.

    Place the chickpeas in the slow cooker.

    Dice the onion, tomato, ginger, garlic and green
    chillis. Add this mixture into slow cooker.

    Add the spices and salt and the water to the slow cooker.

    NOTE: Along the way needed to add 2 cups of water to make sure
    chickpeas were covered and would not dry out.

    Cook on HIGH for 9 hours.

    Chickpeas get to a somewhat tender stage at the 7 hour mark. -then
    smash about 1/3 of them with large spoon or old fashion potato masher
    to break up. Cover crockpot and continue cooking another 2 hours.


    Add the cilantro and lemon juice at the very end.

    Serve warm with rice. Can be served plain and room temp or cold.

    Made three trays - placed on leather dehydrating trays.

    Dehydrated at 125 degrees for 11 - 12 hours. Chickepeas stayed whole
    and did not split.

    Final Results

    Made 3 packets of 10.80 oz each wet - 3.90 oz when dehydrated. Double
    bagged.

    Directions: Place bag contents in large (3 cup) bowl, add 3/4 cup of
    boiling water, cover and let rehydrate for about 20 to 30 minutes or
    until chickpeas are rehydrated. Add maybe add 1/4 cup (or more you
    have to judge) more boiling water if necessary.

    The finished chickpea is not crunchy, but a tad more chunchy than the
    canned chickpeas.

    This is a Black Chickpea - lots of protein - rustic earthy flavor.

    Good hot with rice, or serve warm or cold.


    Variation of: Recipe from The Indian Slow Cooker cookbook.

    Testing 5/17/11 Will experiment and then dehydrate to send to Bryan.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Mon Feb 13 05:58:00 2023
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    right- side-up hanging planters. Big tomatoes are *heavy* and will
    breaks vines that are unsupported. If I were to do it today I'd grow nothing bigger than cherry/grape tomatoes and Campari or Roma (plum) tomatoes.

    I've not seen Campari seeds or plantings where we shop, but we would certainly buy any plantings if we could find them. Campari is the only tomato that we will buy. They do have flavor.

    Most of those "tomato on the vine" offerings down the stupormarkup are
    Campari (if round) or Roma (if plum shaped). I found Campari seed on
    offer @ ETSY "50+ Seeds Campari Tomato\U$3.49". https://tinyurl.com/CAMPARI-SEED

    "The Campari is a hybrid, which means the seeds are commercially prepared
    to sell.

    If you save the seeds from a genuine Campari Tomato, odds are you will
    not get the same tomato as the one you used the seeds from.

    This is all about genetics and cross-pollination, so without going into
    the science of it, let’s just recognize the fact that if we want to grow true Camparis, we’ll need to buy but the specific seeds.

    But if you still want to try, there is a method to get close to Campari tomatoes from a fresh ripened tomato.

    Take one or few Campari Tomatoes and slice them evenly to make 4 discs.

    The tiny white spots in the jelly-like pulp are the seeds. The seeds
    are coated in a gel that prevents germination.

    Place the tomato slices on organic germination mix in a seed tray or a
    shallow well-draining pot.

    Cover them up with a few handfuls of the same mix so that a half an
    inch thick layer is above the slices."

    Cribbed from https://plantophiles.com/plant-care/campari-tomato-plant-care/

    You can get Roma seed (or plants) from good ol' Burpee.

    https://www.burpee.com/catalogsearch/result?q=Campari%20tomato

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    Title: Cavatelli Al Sugo Di Pollo
    Categories: Tv-food, Pasta, Poultry, Sauces, Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 lb Cavatelli
    3 1/2 lb Chicken; in 16 equal-sized
    - pieces
    3 tb Extra virgin olive oil
    Salt & pepper
    3 md Red onions; peeled, chopped
    pn Red chile flakes
    2 lb Very ripe fresh tomatoes;
    - passed through a food mill
    2 tb Tomato paste
    2 lg Pinches saffron
    21 Basil leaves; julienned *
    Fresh grated Pecorino
    - Romano

    * HUH? That's awf'ly precise - UDD

    Place the olive oil in a large heavy-bottomed pot over
    medium heat and saute the pieces of chicken until golden
    brown on all sides, about 12 minutes.

    Remove the chicken pieces with a slotted spoon. Add the
    onions to the pot, along with the red pepper flakes, and
    cook them for 10 minutes or until translucent. Add the
    tomato and the tomato paste, mixing well. Add the saffron
    and allow to simmer for 3 to 4 minutes.

    Add the chicken back to the pot, along with the basil, and
    lower the heat, allowing the sauce to simmer for 30
    minutes. Season with salt and pepper.

    While the chicken is simmering, cook the pasta, drain it,
    mix well with the sauce and serve with the grated Pecorino
    on the side.

    Yield: 8 servings - 4 servings at my house

    David Ruggerio

    SOURCE: Chef du Jour Cooking Show #DJ9505

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 28 December 1999

    FROM: Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Mon Feb 13 17:04:00 2023
    Our appartment has a bay window that faces west and thus gets nice
    afternoon sun. We have planted things there for the past two summers
    with decent results. Last summer we did cherry tomatoes. I had stakes
    and tied the branches to them with strips of thin plastic (think like newspaper bags). It worked quite well -- they did grow to six feet,
    even though we tried to get them to bush out instead of going up.

    I have not had much luck getting a cherry tomato plant to grow in any
    direction except up. :)

    This is a recipe you might like. It has dehydrating instructions that
    we used to send to our vegetarian son when he was stationed with the
    Army in the middle east. Feel free to delete the part about
    dehydration.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Black Chickpea Curry
    Categories: Crockpot, Indian, Testing, Dehydrating
    Yield: 7 Cups

    Indian, and Indian-inspired, foods are appealing to me. Some are better
    than others and the ones I seem to like the most are the ones with
    Chickpeas. I will be saving this one for sure!

    Thanks!
    Mike


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