• Qwik Serve

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Nov 9 06:06:04 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Depends on where you live. Some places where we've lived the only
    Italian available was a chain, others had no chains but mom and pop places. We have both locally, usually go to the mom and pop place.

    Some of the "Mom & Pop" places get pretty elabourate ... beyond the small(ish) cafe with the red gingham table sloths (or just Formica).

    This one is small, maybe a dozen tables, rather closely packed but no
    red gingham table cloths or Chianti bottle candles. Just good food, and ample servings.

    Bianco's (the place I referenced below) was a bit bigger. 16 or so 4 tops
    and one big round table for families in the middle. But not cramped. No
    wicker wrapped chianti bottles w/candles there.

    We had one here that was a favourite of mine. Grandma ran the kitchen.
    Son Dominic was the maitre d and his wife was the cashier. Chirrun and cousins were the wait staff, etc. After a couple visits my standard
    order was "Whatever grandma is making". Never was disappointed.

    I think it is one we would have liked also. (G)

    My current favourite is a place called "Papa Frank's" on the far west
    side of town. It has both indoor and outdoor dining and great grub. www.papafranksspringfield.com

    8<----- EDIT ----->B

    When Steak & Skake went from waitress/table service to Biglari's
    "quick serve" format they lost me as a customer. I had in a S&S an

    They used to put fliers with coupons in the paper when we first moved here. That stopped some years ago, leaving me to wonder if the one in Raleigh is still going. Guess we'll have to swing by sometime and check
    it out.

    They quit with the coupons/newspaper inserts when the formats changed.
    I note that my local franchisee has begun doing their own flyers with
    the franchise name (Stuller's) more prominent that the Steak 'n Shake
    logo. So, the split back to the "real world" may be coming sooner rather
    than later. I hope.

    average of six meals per week (usually lunch). I've not set foot in
    one since my second visit under the new regime. The food is as good -
    but the experience sucks rocks. I hear rumours that my local (and
    Steak & Shake's *oldest*
    franchisee) is going to drop the franchise, change their name to
    something that won't get them sued, and go back to "dancing with who
    brung them". If that becomes a reality I'll gladly go back.

    Sounds like a good idea.

    And maybe they'll go back to breakfast - which corporate also put the
    kibosh on.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Breakfast 'shoe
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Eggs, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 (5" to 6" dia) buttermilk
    - biscuit; split *
    2 lg Eggs; cooked any style
    2 Sausage patties; cooked **
    2 c Hashed brown, American fried
    - cottage fried or French
    - fried potatoes
    Sausage gravy to cover all
    Shredded yellow cheese; opt

    MMMMM---------------------------GRAVY--------------------------------
    1 lb Bulk pork sausage; sage
    2 tb Onion; fine chopped
    6 tb Flour
    1 qt Milk
    1/2 ts Poultry seasoning
    1/2 ts Nutmeg; ground
    1/4 ts Salt
    pn Worcestershire powder
    pn Cayenne

    Crumble sausage into a large saucepan. Cook over medium-
    low heat. Add onion; cook and stir until transparent.
    Drain, reserving all but 2 tb of drippings. Add the two
    tablespoons of fat back to the meat, stir in flour and
    cook over medium-low heat for about 6 minutes or until
    the mixture bubbles and turns golden.

    Stir in milk. Add seasonings; cook, stirring, until
    thickened. Set aside and keep warm.

    This is *much more* gravy than is needed. The unused
    portion keeps well in the ice box for up to a week.

    Split the biscuit and place on a large oval platter.

    Place the fried pork patties on the biscuit halves.

    Cook the eggs as you like them and slide them onto
    the top of the pork patties.

    Add your potatoes over the eggs, and ladle on the
    sausage gravy, stopping before it runs off the edges
    of the plate.

    Sprinkle shredded yellow cheese over the top, if you
    like.

    Serves 1 if you are hungry. Serves 2 if you're a wuss.

    * can substitute toast if you must.

    ** Pick your meat. I prefer sausage. Others may like
    ham, bacon, beef, etc.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 9 16:36:13 2022
    Hi Dave,

    Some of the "Mom & Pop" places get pretty elabourate ... beyond the small(ish) cafe with the red gingham table sloths (or just Formica).

    This one is small, maybe a dozen tables, rather closely packed but no
    red gingham table cloths or Chianti bottle candles. Just good food, and ample servings.

    Bianco's (the place I referenced below) was a bit bigger. 16 or so 4
    tops and one big round table for families in the middle. But not
    cramped. No wicker wrapped chianti bottles w/candles there.

    That seems to be less of the thing to do than it was back in the 60s and
    70s. Mom and Pop have gotten a bit more sophisticated I guess. (G)

    We had one here that was a favourite of mine. Grandma ran the kitchen.
    Son Dominic was the maitre d and his wife was the cashier. Chirrun and cousins were the wait staff, etc. After a couple visits my standard
    order was "Whatever grandma is making". Never was disappointed.

    I think it is one we would have liked also. (G)

    My current favourite is a place called "Papa Frank's" on the far west
    side of town. It has both indoor and outdoor dining and great grub. www.papafranksspringfield.com

    Our place has a couple of tables out on the deck but we've always gone
    inside. My main complaint about it is that they serve pepsi, not Coke
    products.


    When Steak & Skake went from waitress/table service to Biglari's
    "quick serve" format they lost me as a customer. I had in a S&S an

    They used to put fliers with coupons in the paper when we first moved here. That stopped some years ago, leaving me to wonder if the one in Raleigh is still going. Guess we'll have to swing by sometime and check
    it out.

    They quit with the coupons/newspaper inserts when the formats changed.

    OK, that's why I stopped seeing them.


    I note that my local franchisee has begun doing their own flyers with
    the franchise name (Stuller's) more prominent that the Steak 'n Shake logo. So, the split back to the "real world" may be coming sooner
    rather than later. I hope.

    I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on it tho.


    average of six meals per week (usually lunch). I've not set foot in
    one since my second visit under the new regime. The food is as good -
    but the experience sucks rocks. I hear rumours that my local (and
    Steak & Shake's *oldest*
    franchisee) is going to drop the franchise, change their name to
    something that won't get them sued, and go back to "dancing with who
    brung them". If that becomes a reality I'll gladly go back.

    Sounds like a good idea.

    And maybe they'll go back to breakfast - which corporate also put the kibosh on.

    Not enough of a money maker for them? I wish some of these fast food
    places that do breakfast would do something other than what they usually
    offer. Rubbery eggs, plastic cheese and overly salty "bacon" or ham on
    an overgrown white biscuit or croissant is not my idea of a breakfast.
    OTOH, cut down the size of the biscuit, make it whole wheat and slap on
    some real meat, served with fruit and/or yogurt and you've got a decent breakfast.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Nov 11 06:09:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Some of the "Mom & Pop" places get pretty elabourate ... beyond the small(ish) cafe with the red gingham table sloths (or just Formica).

    This one is small, maybe a dozen tables, rather closely packed but no
    red gingham table cloths or Chianti bottle candles. Just good food, and ample servings.

    Bianco's (the place I referenced below) was a bit bigger. 16 or so 4
    tops and one big round table for families in the middle. But not
    cramped. No wicker wrapped chianti bottles w/candles there.

    That seems to be less of the thing to do than it was back in the 60s
    and 70s. Mom and Pop have gotten a bit more sophisticated I guess. (G)

    The basket weave bottles were never a thing here AFAIK even in the 50s.
    I did see a few in beatnik "coffee houses" in the late 50s and early 60s
    but those ran their course quickly. I've not seen the wicker wrapped wine bottles in the liquor aisles of my grocery stores or at my friend Jerry's liquor store in ages. I took a look in my Bing search engine and found
    "some of the Chianti wines that are bottled for local drinking are still wrapped in such baskets. These wines, which are never shipped outside
    of Tuscany, are intentionally made to be as fruity and fresh and possible."

    We had one here that was a favourite of mine. Grandma ran the kitchen.

    8<----- CHOP ----->B

    When Steak & Skake went from waitress/table service to Biglari's
    "quick serve" format they lost me as a customer. I had in a S&S an

    They used to put fliers with coupons in the paper when we first moved here. That stopped some years ago, leaving me to wonder if the one in Raleigh is still going. Guess we'll have to swing by sometime and check
    it out.

    They quit with the coupons/newspaper inserts when the formats changed.

    OK, that's why I stopped seeing them.

    No doubt

    I note that my local franchisee has begun doing their own flyers with
    the franchise name (Stuller's) more prominent that the Steak 'n Shake logo. So, the split back to the "real world" may be coming sooner
    rather than later. I hope.

    I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on it tho.

    Oh, I'm not holding me breath. But it sill likely happen sooner, rather
    than later.

    average of six meals per week (usually lunch). I've not set foot in
    one since my second visit under the new regime. The food is as good -
    but the experience sucks rocks. I hear rumours that my local (and
    Steak & Shake's *oldest* franchisee) is going to drop the franchise, change their name to something that won't get them sued, and go back
    to "dancing with who brung them". If that becomes a reality I'll
    gladly go back.

    Sounds like a good idea.

    There is a S & S like place on the north end of my town which does a
    very nice business. Called Krekel's Custard https://www.krekelscustard.com/ although they do precious little I scream business. the location here
    came about after Bill Krekel lost the Decatur mini-chain to his ex-wife
    in an acrimonious divorce. I am told that this one is more successful
    than any of those in Decatur. It has been voted "Best Hamburger" many
    times in the reader polls of both of our news papers.

    And maybe they'll go back to breakfast - which corporate also put the kibosh on.

    Not enough of a money maker for them? I wish some of these fast food places that do breakfast would do something other than what they
    usually offer. Rubbery eggs, plastic cheese and overly salty "bacon" or ham on an overgrown white biscuit or croissant is not my idea of a breakfast. OTOH, cut down the size of the biscuit, make it whole wheat
    and slap on some real meat, served with fruit and/or yogurt and you've
    got a decent breakfast.

    If the eggs are rubbery or the meat is overly salty then they re not douing
    it right. Sound like your experiences have been at Burger King not Hardee's
    or McDonalds ..... both of whom have pretty decent (if expensive these days) breakfast sarnies.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    4 tb Softened butte; divided uses
    4 English muffins
    1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    +=OR=+
    4 Bob Evans' sausage patties
    1/2 c Water
    4 sl American cheese

    Divide sausage into four patties. Press out patties
    fairly thin. Cook sausage patties over medium heat in a
    skillet for 3 to 4 minutes on each side, drain on paper
    towels.

    Split open English Muffins and place them into a
    toaster, toast the English Muffins.

    Remove the English muffins from the toaster and spread
    softened butter on both halves.

    Place the 1 slice of cooked sausage on each English
    muffin bottom.

    Add about 1 tablespoon of butter to the same skillet
    where you cooked the sausage.

    Place the quart-sized canning lids screw side up (or you
    can use an egg ring) into the skillet.

    Spray the canning lid with non-stick spray. Crack an egg
    into each of the rings.

    Break the yolk with a folk. Pour about 1/2 cup of water
    into the skillet, and place a lid on top. Cook until the
    eggs are set, it should take about two minutes.

    Gently remove the eggs from the rings, and place one egg
    on each piece of cooked sausage.

    Top each egg with one slice of American cheese, top
    cheese with the top of the English muffin.

    Wrap each egg McMuffin with foil or parchment paper.
    Wait about 30 seconds before serving.

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Nov 12 15:57:04 2022
    Hi Dave,

    Bianco's (the place I referenced below) was a bit bigger. 16 or so 4
    tops and one big round table for families in the middle. But not
    cramped. No wicker wrapped chianti bottles w/candles there.

    That seems to be less of the thing to do than it was back in the 60s
    and 70s. Mom and Pop have gotten a bit more sophisticated I guess. (G)

    The basket weave bottles were never a thing here AFAIK even in the

    I've seen them in some places (IIRC, the Italian place my folks took us
    to from time to time in the 60s had them.) but not recently.

    50s. I did see a few in beatnik "coffee houses" in the late 50s and
    early 60s but those ran their course quickly. I've not seen the wicker wrapped wine bottles in the liquor aisles of my grocery stores or at
    my friend Jerry's liquor store in ages. I took a look in my Bing

    Since I don't frequent such stores, I couldn't say yes or no as to if
    they're around here. (G)

    search engine and found
    "some of the Chianti wines that are bottled for local drinking are
    still wrapped in such baskets. These wines, which are never shipped outside
    of Tuscany, are intentionally made to be as fruity and fresh and possible."

    Sounds logical.

    8<----- CHOP ----->B

    When Steak & Skake went from waitress/table service to Biglari's
    "quick serve" format they lost me as a customer. I had in a S&S an

    They used to put fliers with coupons in the paper when we first moved here. That stopped some years ago, leaving me to wonder if the one in Raleigh is still going. Guess we'll have to swing by sometime and check
    it out.

    They quit with the coupons/newspaper inserts when the formats changed.

    OK, that's why I stopped seeing them.

    No doubt

    I note that my local franchisee has begun doing their own flyers with
    the franchise name (Stuller's) more prominent that the Steak 'n Shake logo. So, the split back to the "real world" may be coming sooner
    rather than later. I hope.

    I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on it tho.

    Oh, I'm not holding me breath. But it sill likely happen sooner,
    rather than later.

    Enjoy it when it does.

    There is a S & S like place on the north end of my town which does a
    very nice business. Called Krekel's Custard https://www.krekelscustard.com/ although they do precious little I
    scream business. the location here
    came about after Bill Krekel lost the Decatur mini-chain to his
    ex-wife in an acrimonious divorce. I am told that this one is more successful
    than any of those in Decatur. It has been voted "Best Hamburger" many times in the reader polls of both of our news papers.

    Sounds like he's got a good thin going.

    And maybe they'll go back to breakfast - which corporate also put the kibosh on.

    Not enough of a money maker for them? I wish some of these fast food places that do breakfast would do something other than what they
    usually offer. Rubbery eggs, plastic cheese and overly salty "bacon" or ham on an overgrown white biscuit or croissant is not my idea of a breakfast. OTOH, cut down the size of the biscuit, make it whole wheat
    and slap on some real meat, served with fruit and/or yogurt and you've
    got a decent breakfast.

    If the eggs are rubbery or the meat is overly salty then they re not douing it right. Sound like your experiences have been at Burger King
    not Hardee's or McDonalds ..... both of whom have pretty decent (if expensive these days) breakfast sarnies.

    I've had plenty of McD's breakfasts--when we were in AZ, the post
    hospital ran a weekly bus (usually a van) up to Fort Bliss hospital, a
    much bigger facility. The bus stopped in Lordsburg, NM for breakfast at
    McD's. I had 2 wrist surgeries plus follow up on them and misc. other appointments at Bliss so rode the bus a good number of times. Never was
    a big McD's fan; breakfast was not their strong suit. I've also had
    Hardee's sausage biscuits for breakfast, overall, better than expected
    but not overly great. Of the various places, if I can, I'll take a C-F-A chicken biscuit any day, but not too often even there.


    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    4 tb Softened butte; divided uses
    4 English muffins
    1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    +=OR=+
    4 Bob Evans' sausage patties
    1/2 c Water
    4 sl American cheese

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss
    cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be whole
    wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good
    eating.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 14 00:02:00 2022
    On 11-12-22 15:57, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Qwik Serve <=-

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    4 sl American cheese

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    I'm not sure that I have ever met anyone who would not prefer cheddar or
    swiss cheese to American cheese product:-}} Or Mozz, or any other real
    cheese, depending on the usage.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Minn Chicken Divan
    Categories: Casserole, Leftovers, Tested
    Yield: 4 Servings

    16 oz Pkg frozen broccoli, or
    - use fresh (Used less)
    Cooked aldente, drained
    2 c Cubed chicken breast
    - or sliced
    (I used 3/4 rotisserie ckn
    Breast sliced)
    1 tb Toasted slivered almonds
    (used regular almomds, diced
    1 cn 10 3/4 oz condensed cream
    Of chicken soup, undiluted
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1 ts Lemon juiice
    1/2 c Shredded cheddar cheese
    6 tb Panko crumbs/
    2 tb Melted butter

    Preheat oven to 350

    Cook brococoli place into a greased 7 x 11 inch glass baking dish.

    Layer chicken over broccoli. Sprinkle with almomnds.

    In a med bowl mix soup, mayo amd lemom juice, spoon over almonds
    coverinmg all surface of chicken.

    Sprinkle with cheese.

    Melt butter, mix with panko crumbs, sprinkle over sauce.

    Bake in preheated oven for 35 minutes.

    Tested 2/22/17

    Refreshing flavor, will make again.

    Next time will undercook broccoli. Will add more chicken.

    From Minn Hot Dish Cookbook

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 14 05:00:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-


    If the eggs are rubbery or the meat is overly salty then they re not douing it right. Sound like your experiences have been at Burger King
    not Hardee's or McDonalds ..... both of whom have pretty decent (if expensive these days) breakfast sarnies.

    I've had plenty of McD's breakfasts--when we were in AZ, the post
    hospital ran a weekly bus (usually a van) up to Fort Bliss hospital, a much bigger facility. The bus stopped in Lordsburg, NM for breakfast at McD's. I had 2 wrist surgeries plus follow up on them and misc. other appointments at Bliss so rode the bus a good number of times. Never was
    a big McD's fan; breakfast was not their strong suit. I've also had Hardee's sausage biscuits for breakfast, overall, better than expected
    but not overly great. Of the various places, if I can, I'll take a
    C-F-A chicken biscuit any day, but not too often even there.

    I've had Chick Filly's chicken biscuits. I was not impressed - especially
    not by the biscuit.

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    4 tb Softened butte; divided uses
    4 English muffins
    1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    +=OR=+
    4 Bob Evans' sausage patties
    1/2 c Water
    4 sl American cheese

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    Then it wouldn't be a McMuffin if you use a biscuit. American cheese IS
    a form of Cheddar. It began life as a blend of Cheddar and Colby (both
    tasty cheeses). Since blended cheeses are no longer (by gummint fiat)
    used, it cannot be legally called "cheese" and has to be labelled as "processed cheese".

    So. What's in it?

    Milk: Milk is... milk.

    Whey: Whey is the liquid that's left over after butter-churning or milk-making; it's very high in protein

    Table salt.

    Cheese Culture: A bacterial culture that's added to all cheese during
    the first stages of the cheesemaking process.

    Enzymes: Another necessary ingredient in all cheesemaking, enzymes like
    rennet cause the milk to coagulate.

    All of these are the essential ingredients used to make real cheese.

    What else is added?

    Milk Fat: The fat in milk. Butter, basically.

    Calcium Phosphate: This is the calcium that's found in dairy, the stuff
    that does a body good.

    Sodium Citrate: This is an emulsifier that holds the cheese together;
    it's also used in everything from sausage to ice cream.

    Sodium Phosphate: Another emulsifier; it's also used as a leavening
    agent in some baked goods.

    Sorbic Acid: A naturally-occurring preservative.

    Annatto Extract: A natural yellow-orange food coloring.

    Vitamin D3: Added as a nutritional supplement.

    American cheese has a couple additional ingredients to help it congeal
    nicely and melt in that perfectly melty way, but in reality, it's not
    too different from plain old cheese.

    Cribbed from: https://www.thedailymeal.com/

    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to
    realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Blue Cheese Crusted Strip Steak
    Categories: Beef, Cheese, Grains, Dairy, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/2 c Millville Quick Oats
    2 Black Angus strip steaks
    Stonemill iodized salt and
    - ground black pepper
    1 tb Carlini 100% Pure olive oil
    1 tb Countryside Creamery
    - unsalted butter
    1 lg Onion; sliced
    1 tb Balsamic vinegar
    5 oz Happy Farms Preferred blue
    - cheese crumbles
    2 tb Countryside Creamery heavy
    - whipping cream

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    On a small baking sheet, roast the oats for 5-7 minutes,
    stirring after 4 minutes. Reserve.

    Preheat grill or grill pan to high heat. Season steaks
    with salt and pepper on both sides. Grill on each side
    for 3 minutes or until grill marks form. Place steaks on
    a baking sheet and cook until internal temperature
    reaches 125°F/52°C (for a medium steak) or 135°F/57°C
    (for a well done steak).

    In a medium pan, heat olive oil and butter over medium
    high heat. Add onions and sauté for 3-5 minutes. Add
    balsamic vinegar and simmer, covered, for 2 minutes.
    Reserve.

    In a food processor, combine the oats, blue cheese and
    heavy cream. Pulse to break up the cheese and until the
    mixture comes together.

    Once steaks reach an internal temperature of 125°-135°,
    divide the oat mixture between the steaks and pat it
    evenly over the top. Adjust oven to broil setting.

    Broil the steaks for 3-5 minutes, or until the crust
    becomes golden brown.

    Divide the onions among two plates, top with steaks and
    serve immediately.

    Recipe Courtesy of Chef Stacey, ALDI Test Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.aldi.us

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Mon Nov 14 12:18:16 2022
    Hi Dale,

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    4 sl American cheese

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    I'm not sure that I have ever met anyone who would not prefer cheddar
    or swiss cheese to American cheese product:-}} Or Mozz, or any other
    real cheese, depending on the usage.

    Doesn't take much. IMO, American cheese is a (small) step above
    Velveeta, which we call "plastic cheese". My mom bought the American
    slices for sandwiches (just cheese and white bread with margerine or
    yellow mustard) but the real stuff for mac & cheese. Dad also insisted
    on a hunk of cheddar with his apple pie (us kids had the option also);
    that's where I learned to appreciate real cheese.

    Title: Minn Chicken Divan
    Categories: Casserole, Leftovers, Tested
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Looks good, and now that we're finally moving into colder weather, it's something to consider. We bought a new (upright) freezer last week; in transferring the contents of the old (chest) freezer to the new, we
    found that we're well stocked on meat. This winter I'll be buying a lot
    of fruits and vegetables, not much meat. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Nov 14 13:23:12 2022
    Hi Dave,

    appointments at Bliss so rode the bus a good number of times. Never was
    a big McD's fan; breakfast was not their strong suit. I've also had Hardee's sausage biscuits for breakfast, overall, better than expected
    but not overly great. Of the various places, if I can, I'll take a
    C-F-A chicken biscuit any day, but not too often even there.

    I've had Chick Filly's chicken biscuits. I was not impressed -
    especially not by the biscuit.

    The Raleigh newspaper just did a biscuit taste off from different
    places, don't know if they were all fast food or not. Each round was
    published on line but I never bothered to log in to see who all was
    competing. Anyway, the winner was Bojangles. I've had biscuits from
    them; ok but nothing I'd pick as a winner.

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    4 tb Softened butte; divided uses
    4 English muffins
    1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    +=OR=+
    4 Bob Evans' sausage patties
    1/2 c Water
    4 sl American cheese

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    Then it wouldn't be a McMuffin if you use a biscuit. American cheese

    OK, sub in an English muffin for the biscuit. (G)


    IS a form of Cheddar. It began life as a blend of Cheddar and Colby
    (both
    tasty cheeses). Since blended cheeses are no longer (by gummint fiat) used, it cannot be legally called "cheese" and has to be labelled as "processed cheese".

    So. What's in it?

    My mom bought it for cheese sandwiches. It made a fair toasted cheese
    but most of the time she just put a slice between a couple of pieces of
    white bread & added margerine or yellow mustard. I survived them but
    never bought any white bread or American cheese after leaving home.


    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar and Jarlsburg swiss.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Nov 16 00:20:00 2022
    On 11-14-22 12:18, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Qwik Serve <=-

    I'm not sure that I have ever met anyone who would not prefer cheddar
    or swiss cheese to American cheese product:-}} Or Mozz, or any other
    real cheese, depending on the usage.

    Doesn't take much. IMO, American cheese is a (small) step above
    Velveeta, which we call "plastic cheese". My mom bought the American

    Agreed. Then there is also Cheese Whiz, which occupies its own special
    niche. Actually, we like it for using on Philly steak subs because of
    its flavor and low melting point. One of the two places who claim to
    have invented the Philly steak sub uses only Whiz. The other uses only provolone.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Broken Pasta with Onions and Peas
    Categories: Easy, Quick, Cathy
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/4 c Olive oil
    1 lg Onion
    2 lg Eggs
    1/2 c Baby peas, defrosted
    OR drained canned peas
    1/2 c Grated Parmesean cheese
    1/2 lb Linquine (broken)
    ds Salt to taste
    ds Pepper to taste

    Here is a recipe that I have been making a lot. I found the recipe
    in a local newspaper. It has taken some experimenting, because the
    original recipe calls for WAY TOO MANY peas, it was overwhelming. So
    here is my version. Give it a try sometime.

    Slice the onion thinly in strips and saute it in a large skillet with
    the olive oil until the onions are slightly brown (about 10 minutes).
    Add peas and a little salt and pepper and cook over medium heat for
    about two minutes. Remove from the heat.

    While you are cooking the onions break the pasta into smaller pieces.
    Bring a large pot of water to a boil and cook the linquine until done.
    Drain (reserve some of the cooking water just in case the end product
    is a little dry - I personally have never had to use the extra water,
    but it sounds like a good idea).

    Add the drained hot pasta to the skillet with the onions and mix well.

    Combine the two eggs and the cheese in a small bowl, pour the egg
    mixture over the pasta.

    Return the pan back to the stove. Heat on low just until the egg
    sets.

    Add additional salt/pepper to taste if you want - thats it.

    Submitted by Cathy Shipp 7/15/97

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Nov 16 06:40:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    appointments at Bliss so rode the bus a good number of times. Never was
    a big McD's fan; breakfast was not their strong suit. I've also had Hardee's sausage biscuits for breakfast, overall, better than expected
    but not overly great. Of the various places, if I can, I'll take a
    C-F-A chicken biscuit any day, but not too often even there.

    I've had Chick Filly's chicken biscuits. I was not impressed -
    especially not by the biscuit.

    The Raleigh newspaper just did a biscuit taste off from different
    places, don't know if they were all fast food or not. Each round was published on line but I never bothered to log in to see who all was competing. Anyway, the winner was Bojangles. I've had biscuits from
    them; ok but nothing I'd pick as a winner.

    We don't gots Bojangles here. And https://www.bojangles.com/locations/
    tells me there are none in my state. We are getting a Raising Cane's on
    the site of a really good (and authentic) Mexican place. They have
    bulldozed the former building(s) and are erecting a new structure on
    the site. Once they have opened and things have had a chance to calm
    down I'll try them out. They are located *very* close to the re-appeared Chick-Fil-A location. On purpose? If they turn out to be a bust I still
    have two Popeyes locations.

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    4 tb Softened butte; divided uses
    4 English muffins
    1/2 lb Breakfast sausage
    +=OR=+
    4 Bob Evans' sausage patties
    1/2 c Water
    4 sl American cheese

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    Then it wouldn't be a McMuffin if you use a biscuit. American cheese

    OK, sub in an English muffin for the biscuit. (G)

    There y'go.

    IS a form of Cheddar. It began life as a blend of Cheddar and Colby
    (both tasty cheeses). Since blended cheeses are no longer (by gummint fiat) used, it cannot be legally called "cheese" and has to be
    labelled as "processed cheese".

    So. What's in it?

    My mom bought it for cheese sandwiches. It made a fair toasted cheese
    but most of the time she just put a slice between a couple of pieces of white bread & added margerine or yellow mustard. I survived them but
    never bought any white bread or American cheese after leaving home.

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack, "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in
    the "small type" as 'processed cheese product'.

    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar
    and Jarlsburg swiss.

    Jarlsburg is excellent but it's Norwegian, not Swiss. And Havarti, a
    similar cheese is of Danish origin. The most common Swiss variety -
    Ementhal (or Emmenthaler) has a somewhat nutty flavour whic seems to
    not be there in the processed "singles". There are over 450 varieties
    of cheese made in Switzerland. Other than the Ementhal style Shabziger
    and Vacherin are the most popular.

    Here's a tasty looking thing to do with turnips and cheese. Our new
    member, Ben, will probably like this one as well as it has no meat.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Turnip Gratin w/Potatoes
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 tb Unsalted butter
    4 md Turnips (1 lb), peeled,
    - coarse grated
    2 Boiling potatoes (1/2 lb),
    - peeled, coarse grated
    1 tb Snipped fresh dill
    1/4 ts Fresh grated nutmeg
    Salt & white pepper
    1/2 c Heavy cream
    1/2 c Chicken stock
    1/2 c Fresh bread crumbs
    1/2 c Freshly grated Gruyere,
    - Ementhal or or Jarlsberg
    - cheese

    In a heavy skillet, melt butter over moderately low heat.
    When foam subsides, add turnips and ptatoes and cook,
    stirring occasionally, 10 minutes. Add dill, nutmeg, salt
    and pepper to taste and mix well. Heat briefly.

    Butter a 15" X 2 1/2" oval gratin dish. Transfer turnip
    mixture to gratin dish and smooth surface with a spatula.
    (Gratin can be prepared 24 hours ahead to this point and
    refrigerated.)

    In a small bowl, whisk together heavy cream and stock and
    pour it over turnip mixture in gratin dish. Sprinkle top
    with bread crumbs and Gruyere cheese. Bake @ 425ºF/220ºC
    for 20 to 25 minutes, or until top is golden.

    Serve from gratin dish.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Wed Nov 16 14:11:35 2022
    Hi Dale,

    I'm not sure that I have ever met anyone who would not prefer cheddar
    or swiss cheese to American cheese product:-}} Or Mozz, or any other
    real cheese, depending on the usage.

    Doesn't take much. IMO, American cheese is a (small) step above
    Velveeta, which we call "plastic cheese". My mom bought the American

    Agreed. Then there is also Cheese Whiz, which occupies its own
    special niche. Actually, we like it for using on Philly steak subs because of
    its flavor and low melting point. One of the two places who claim to
    have invented the Philly steak sub uses only Whiz. The other uses
    only provolone.

    There's also the "cheese spreads" from places like The Swiss Colony. My
    parents often got a box of assorted spreads from one of Mom's sisters
    for Christmas. That meant that one Sunday night's supper in January
    would usually be "cheese" and crackers. The spreads were in small,
    triangular packages; in order that all 7 of us could have a taste of
    each spread, we had to spread the stuff rather thinly on the cracker.
    Crackers were usually white saltine type so we got a lot of carbs and
    sodium in that meal, with just a light hint of flavored cheese.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 16 14:18:33 2022
    Hi Dave,

    I've had Chick Filly's chicken biscuits. I was not impressed -
    especially not by the biscuit.

    The Raleigh newspaper just did a biscuit taste off from different
    places, don't know if they were all fast food or not. Each round was published on line but I never bothered to log in to see who all was competing. Anyway, the winner was Bojangles. I've had biscuits from
    them; ok but nothing I'd pick as a winner.

    We don't gots Bojangles here. And https://www.bojangles.com/locations/

    It's a southern thing, like C-F-A used to be. (G)

    tells me there are none in my state. We are getting a Raising Cane's
    on the site of a really good (and authentic) Mexican place. They have bulldozed the former building(s) and are erecting a new structure on
    the site. Once they have opened and things have had a chance to calm
    down I'll try them out. They are located *very* close to the

    I've only heard of them from you, never seen one in all our travels.
    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.


    re-appeared Chick-Fil-A location. On purpose? If they turn out to be a bust I still have two Popeyes locations.

    Closest one to us is down in Raleigh.


    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    Then it wouldn't be a McMuffin if you use a biscuit. American cheese

    OK, sub in an English muffin for the biscuit. (G)

    There y'go.

    Steve made some biscuits for breakfast today, fried up some pepper bacon
    to go in them. Got enough for several more meals of biscuits, have to
    figure out what else to do since the chicken carcasse that would have
    been good chicken & gravy over biscuits got turned into chicken soup
    instead.


    IS a form of Cheddar. It began life as a blend of Cheddar and Colby
    (both tasty cheeses). Since blended cheeses are no longer (by gummint fiat) used, it cannot be legally called "cheese" and has to be
    labelled as "processed cheese".

    So. What's in it?

    My mom bought it for cheese sandwiches. It made a fair toasted cheese
    but most of the time she just put a slice between a couple of pieces of white bread & added margerine or yellow mustard. I survived them but
    never bought any white bread or American cheese after leaving home.

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,
    "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in the "small type" as 'processed cheese
    product'.

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar
    and Jarlsburg swiss.

    Jarlsburg is excellent but it's Norwegian, not Swiss. And Havarti, a similar cheese is of Danish origin. The most common Swiss variety -

    Somehow they got lumped into the generic swiss category--close enough in
    taste and texture did it, most likely.


    Ementhal (or Emmenthaler) has a somewhat nutty flavour whic seems to
    not be there in the processed "singles". There are over 450 varieties
    of cheese made in Switzerland. Other than the Ementhal style Shabziger
    and Vacherin are the most popular.

    It would have been fun to go thru a cheese production facility when we
    were there--but never had the chance. Did tour a cow bell foundery tho.
    (G)


    Here's a tasty looking thing to do with turnips and cheese. Our new member, Ben, will probably like this one as well as it has no meat.

    Title: Turnip Gratin w/Potatoes
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 tb Unsalted butter
    4 md Turnips (1 lb), peeled,
    - coarse grated
    2 Boiling potatoes (1/2 lb),
    - peeled, coarse grated
    1 tb Snipped fresh dill
    1/4 ts Fresh grated nutmeg
    Salt & white pepper
    1/2 c Heavy cream
    1/2 c Chicken stock
    1/2 c Fresh bread crumbs
    1/2 c Freshly grated Gruyere,
    - Ementhal or or Jarlsberg
    - cheese

    I'd probably cut the dill a bit, finding out that a little bit goes a
    long way in flavoring. We were at Costco the other day; they've resumed
    handing out food samples. One small turnover type thing had dill as an ingredient; I took one bite and the dill was an overpowering flavor.
    Told Steve that we'd not be getting any.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Nov 18 05:21:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've had Chick Filly's chicken biscuits. I was not impressed -
    especially not by the biscuit.

    The Raleigh newspaper just did a biscuit taste off from different
    places, don't know if they were all fast food or not. Each round was published on line but I never bothered to log in to see who all was competing. Anyway, the winner was Bojangles. I've had biscuits from
    them; ok but nothing I'd pick as a winner.

    We don't gots Bojangles here. And https://www.bojangles.com/locations/

    It's a southern thing, like C-F-A used to be. (G)

    Actually they're nationwide and international. There seems to be only
    two stores in your state. One with the jar-heads at Camp Lejeune and the
    other in Greeneville.

    tells me there are none in my state. We are getting a Raising Cane's
    on the site of a really good (and authentic) Mexican place. They have bulldozed the former building(s) and are erecting a new structure on
    the site. Once they have opened and things have had a chance to calm
    down I'll try them out. They are located *very* close to the

    I've only heard of them from you, never seen one in all our travels.

    There are 30+ locations in Aridzona. They are also moving into the middleeasten region (Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates)

    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid
    white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.

    Good on them. I hope they make a go of it.

    re-appeared Chick-Fil-A location. On purpose? If they turn out to be a bust I still have two Popeyes locations.

    Closest one to us is down in Raleigh.

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    Then it wouldn't be a McMuffin if you use a biscuit. American cheese

    OK, sub in an English muffin for the biscuit. (G)

    There y'go.

    Steve made some biscuits for breakfast today, fried up some pepper
    bacon to go in them. Got enough for several more meals of biscuits,
    have to figure out what else to do since the chicken carcasse that
    would have been good chicken & gravy over biscuits got turned into
    chicken soup instead.

    I've attached a recipe of mine for Sausage gravy. I normally use a local
    (to me) mreakfast sausage. But I've used national brands (Jimmy Dean and
    Bob Evans, etc) as well as Italian sausage (for serving as a dinner dish)

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,
    "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in the "small type" as 'processed cheese
    product'.

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola, Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar
    and Jarlsburg swiss.

    Jarlsburg is excellent but it's Norwegian, not Swiss. And Havarti, a similar cheese is of Danish origin. The most common Swiss variety -

    Somehow they got lumped into the generic swiss category--close enough
    in taste and texture did it, most likely.

    Jarlsburg is much "creamier" and has much smaller holes than the more
    usual Ementhaler "Swiss".

    Ementhal (or Emmenthaler) has a somewhat nutty flavour whic seems to
    not be there in the processed "singles". There are over 450 varieties
    of cheese made in Switzerland. Other than the Ementhal style Shabziger
    and Vacherin are the most popular.

    It would have been fun to go thru a cheese production facility when we were there--but never had the chance. Did tour a cow bell foundery tho. (G)

    Here's a tasty looking thing to do with turnips and cheese. Our new member, Ben, will probably like this one as well as it has no meat.

    Title: Turnip Gratin w/Potatoes
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3 tb Unsalted butter
    4 md Turnips (1 lb), peeled,
    - coarse grated
    2 Boiling potatoes (1/2 lb),
    - peeled, coarse grated
    1 tb Snipped fresh dill
    1/4 ts Fresh grated nutmeg
    Salt & white pepper
    1/2 c Heavy cream
    1/2 c Chicken stock
    1/2 c Fresh bread crumbs
    1/2 c Freshly grated Gruyere,
    - Ementhal or or Jarlsberg
    - cheese

    I'd probably cut the dill a bit, finding out that a little bit goes a
    long way in flavoring. We were at Costco the other day; they've resumed handing out food samples. One small turnover type thing had dill as an ingredient; I took one bite and the dill was an overpowering flavor.
    Told Steve that we'd not be getting any.

    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH .....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 1/2 lb Sausage
    2 c Flour
    4 c Milk
    2 c Water
    Salt & coarse ground pepper

    Brown sausage in Dutch oven. Add milk and while milk is
    still cool, mix flour and water thoroughly and add to
    milk. Stir constantly as it thickens to desired texture.
    Salt and pepper. Serve over biscuits.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Nov 19 19:58:49 2022
    Hi Dave,


    The Raleigh newspaper just did a biscuit taste off from different
    places, don't know if they were all fast food or not. Each round was published on line but I never bothered to log in to see who all was competing. Anyway, the winner was Bojangles. I've had biscuits from
    them; ok but nothing I'd pick as a winner.

    We don't gots Bojangles here. And https://www.bojangles.com/locations/

    It's a southern thing, like C-F-A used to be. (G)

    Actually they're nationwide and international. There seems to be only
    two stores in your state. One with the jar-heads at Camp Lejeune and
    the other in Greeneville.

    If you're talking Bojangles, your source is hopelessly outdated. There
    are 2 here in WF, and have been that many at least as long as we've been
    here. According to their web site, NC has 340 locations. Other states
    with them are AL 31, AK 2, FL 10, GA 104, IL 2, KY 9, MD 5, MS 1, PA 2,
    LA 1, SC 142, TN 71, VA 70 and WV 1. That's as of this year.

    tells me there are none in my state. We are getting a Raising Cane's
    on the site of a really good (and authentic) Mexican place. They have bulldozed the former building(s) and are erecting a new structure on
    the site. Once they have opened and things have had a chance to calm
    down I'll try them out. They are located *very* close to the

    I've only heard of them from you, never seen one in all our travels.

    There are 30+ locations in Aridzona. They are also moving into the middleeasten region (Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab
    Emirates)

    Guess we'll probably see them when we head west again, probably next
    year.


    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid
    white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.

    Good on them. I hope they make a go of it.

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the
    worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white)
    rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    re-appeared Chick-Fil-A location. On purpose? If they turn out to be a bust I still have two Popeyes locations.

    Closest one to us is down in Raleigh.

    Title: McDonald's Sausage Egg McMuffin
    Categories: Five, Pork, Breads, Cheese
    Yield: 4 McMuffins

    I like it better as separate components, with a good cheddar or swiss cheese instead of the American cheese. Also, if the biscuit can be
    whole wheat with a smear of strawberry jam..................that's good eating.

    Then it wouldn't be a McMuffin if you use a biscuit. American cheese

    OK, sub in an English muffin for the biscuit. (G)

    There y'go.

    Steve made some biscuits for breakfast today, fried up some pepper
    bacon to go in them. Got enough for several more meals of biscuits,
    have to figure out what else to do since the chicken carcasse that
    would have been good chicken & gravy over biscuits got turned into
    chicken soup instead.

    I've attached a recipe of mine for Sausage gravy. I normally use a
    local (to me) mreakfast sausage. But I've used national brands (Jimmy
    Dean and Bob Evans, etc) as well as Italian sausage (for serving as a dinner dish)

    Sounds good, especially if the biscuits are home made whole wheat or
    sourdough whole wheat.

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,
    "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in the "small type" as 'processed cheese
    product'.

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold in
    them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar
    and Jarlsburg swiss.

    Jarlsburg is excellent but it's Norwegian, not Swiss. And Havarti, a similar cheese is of Danish origin. The most common Swiss variety -

    Somehow they got lumped into the generic swiss category--close enough
    in taste and texture did it, most likely.

    Jarlsburg is much "creamier" and has much smaller holes than the more usual Ementhaler "Swiss".

    It's good, no matter what it's called. (G)

    Ementhal (or Emmenthaler) has a somewhat nutty flavour whic seems to
    not be there in the processed "singles". There are over 450 varieties
    of cheese made in Switzerland. Other than the Ementhal style Shabziger
    and Vacherin are the most popular.

    It would have been fun to go thru a cheese production facility when we were there--but never had the chance. Did tour a cow bell foundery tho. (G)

    Here's a tasty looking thing to do with turnips and cheese. Our new member, Ben, will probably like this one as well as it has no meat.

    Title: Turnip Gratin w/Potatoes
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 4 Servings


    I'd probably cut the dill a bit, finding out that a little bit goes a
    long way in flavoring. We were at Costco the other day; they've resumed handing out food samples. One small turnover type thing had dill as an ingredient; I took one bite and the dill was an overpowering flavor.


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Nov 19 20:16:34 2022
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    Told Steve that we'd not be getting any.

    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH
    .....

    Personal choice; we both like it in small quantities but not
    overpowering.


    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    That, OTOH, is a keeper. Depending on how the sausage is seasoned, a
    dash of poultry seasoning or sage would go good in the gravy.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 21 00:09:00 2022
    On 11-19-22 19:58, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Qwik Serve <=-

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white) rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    We went to a Caribbean restaurant a long time ago. Our opinion is about
    the same as yours -- plentiful good food. The one we went to was quite a
    drive from our Columbia house or we would have made repeat visits.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold
    in them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do
    make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    We use one of those regularly for cheeses and sandwich meats. The one we
    had sort of gave up the ghost a while back. It could barely reseal one
    bag before its charge gave out. The new one we bought claims to be able
    to do sixty bags on a charge.

    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar
    and Jarlsburg swiss.

    Same here. We also like a "cheese food" spread that has a pretty good
    cheddar flavor.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Salsa Potatoes
    Categories: Pot luck, Side dish, Easy, Tested
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 c 8 oz cheddar cheese shredded
    1 c Thick/Chunky Salsa
    1 cn Diced Green peppers
    -undrained
    2 tb Dried onion flakes
    1/2 c Sour cream
    1 cn 10 3/4 Cheddar Cheese Soup
    -undiluted
    32 oz Frozen cubed hash browns
    -defrosted
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1/2 c Cornflake crumbs (or more)

    Preheat oven to 350 degrees.

    Spray 13 x 9 x 2 inch baking dish (or 3 quarts).

    In large bowl combine cheese, salsa, onion, sour cream, diced
    peppers, cheese soup and pepper. Mix well. Add potatoes. Mix well.

    Spread in pan.

    Bake at 350 degrees for 45 to 60 minutes OR until cheese is melted and
    potatoes are tender and topping is golden brown and crisp.

    Leftovers reheat in microwave but topping will become soft.

    Would be a good dish to take to pot luck.

    Quick/Easy Bake Off

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 21 05:32:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We don't gots Bojangles here. And https://www.bojangles.com/locations/

    It's a southern thing, like C-F-A used to be. (G)

    Actually they're nationwide and international. There seems to be only
    two stores in your state. One with the jar-heads at Camp Lejeune and
    the other in Greeneville.

    If you're talking Bojangles, your source is hopelessly outdated. There
    are 2 here in WF, and have been that many at least as long as we've
    been here. According to their web site, NC has 340 locations. Other
    states with them are AL 31, AK 2, FL 10, GA 104, IL 2, KY 9, MD 5, MS
    1, PA 2, LA 1, SC 142, TN 71, VA 70 and WV 1. That's as of this year.

    In that instance I was talking about Raising Cane's. Sorry if I wasn't
    clear. I sometimes get my tongue over my eye teeth and can't see what
    I'm saying. Bv)=

    tells me there are none in my state. We are getting a Raising Cane's
    on the site of a really good (and authentic) Mexican place. They have bulldozed the former building(s) and are erecting a new structure on
    the site. Once they have opened and things have had a chance to calm
    down I'll try them out. They are located *very* close to the

    I've only heard of them from you, never seen one in all our travels.

    There are 30+ locations in Aridzona. They are also moving into the middleeasten region (Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab
    Emirates)

    Guess we'll probably see them when we head west again, probably next
    year.

    No doubt. My friend Les and I had lunch at the re-opened Casa Real (in
    an old Quaker Steak & Lube building). I preferred the decor/atmosphere
    in their old location. But the food/service was quite good (as expected).

    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid
    white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.

    Good on them. I hope they make a go of it.

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white) rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    Pizza Hut has gone to delivery/drive through only nationwide. <SHRUG> I
    have many better places for sit-down pizza available to me as well as a
    local mini-chain that is delivery/pick-up only which consistently wins
    the "Best of" polls put on by each of my local papers.

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,
    "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in the "small type" as 'processed cheese
    product'.

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold in them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    I'm paying them for the convenience factor. And I understand that.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Double Down
    Categories: Poultry, Pork, Cheese
    Yield: 2 Servings

    4 (4 oz ea) chicken breast
    - cutlets, 1/4" thick
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon; crisp
    - cooked
    2 lg Eggs; beaten
    1 c Flour
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    Garlic granules
    pn Onion granules; opt
    1 c Italian bread crumbs
    1/4 c Grated Parmesan
    4 sl Pepper jack cheese *

    * or your favourite sandwich cheese.

    Combine the flour, salt and pepper on a plate. Add the eggs
    to another plate and combine with about 1 Tablespoon of
    water. Combine the bread crumbs and the parmesan on a third
    plate.

    Dredge the chicken breasts in the flour mixture first, then
    the egg wash, and finally with the bread crumbs & Parmesan.

    Fry or deep-fry the breaded breasts until the coating is
    nicely crispy. Drain the excess oil on newspaper or paper
    towels. Place a slice of cheese on each breast after you
    have turned it over to let the back side drain - and while
    the chicken puck is still hot.

    Place two strips of the precooked bacon on top of two of
    the cheese covered patties. Top with remaining two breasts
    and chow down.

    Serves two normal people. Or one Dirty Dave

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 21 05:40:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    Told Steve that we'd not be getting any.

    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH
    .....

    Personal choice; we both like it in small quantities but not
    overpowering.


    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    That, OTOH, is a keeper. Depending on how the sausage is seasoned, a
    dash of poultry seasoning or sage would go good in the gravy.

    If you are using breakfast sauage there should be plenty of sage in the
    mix. I know that both Jimmy Dean and Bob Evans have noticable sage as a
    part of their flavour profile.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dad's Sausage
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 2 Pounds

    2 lb Ground pork
    1/2 ts Ground ginger
    1/2 ts Nutmeg
    1/2 ts Coriander
    1 ts Sage
    1/2 ts Thyme
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1 1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 tb Crushed red chilies

    Mix all together, add a little water if necessary. Fry in
    patties, or loose. Gets more flavourful as it sits.

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Mon Nov 21 16:15:20 2022
    Hi Dale,

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white) rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    We went to a Caribbean restaurant a long time ago. Our opinion is
    about the same as yours -- plentiful good food. The one we went to
    was quite a drive from our Columbia house or we would have made repeat visits.

    There was another one in WF when we first moved here, don't know if it's
    still going or not. We usually got take out there; it was good, but the
    last time we stopped in, everything was rather high carb (in my early
    days of diagnosed diabetes) so we went elsewhere. This new place had a
    small menu with enough choices that I had no worrys about carbs. I took
    my fruit home, as well as about half of the picadillo and rice, had it
    for supper last night. (G)

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold
    in them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do
    make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    We use one of those regularly for cheeses and sandwich meats. The one
    we had sort of gave up the ghost a while back. It could barely reseal
    one bag before its charge gave out. The new one we bought claims to
    be able to do sixty bags on a charge.

    Ours is plug in so we don't have to worry about keeping a charge. I
    picked up an older "Cooks Illustrated" magazine earlier this afternoon,
    they suggest keeping cheese wrapped in wax or parchment paper with a
    loose over wrap of foil. We've used just the vaccuum bags successfully
    before.


    My personal preference in cheese leans toward the strongly flavoured
    and aromatic cheese .... mostly of the blue veined varieties. Got to realise that cheese, at its heart, is just rotted milk. Bv)-

    I'll take them in small amounts; my favorite are a well aged cheddar
    and Jarlsburg swiss.

    Same here. We also like a "cheese food" spread that has a pretty good cheddar flavor.

    I'd rather go for just cheese, nuke it a few seconds in the microwave if
    I want it soft. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Nov 21 16:24:45 2022
    Hi Dave,

    We don't gots Bojangles here. And https://www.bojangles.com/locations/

    It's a southern thing, like C-F-A used to be. (G)

    Actually they're nationwide and international. There seems to be only
    two stores in your state. One with the jar-heads at Camp Lejeune and
    the other in Greeneville.

    If you're talking Bojangles, your source is hopelessly outdated. There
    are 2 here in WF, and have been that many at least as long as we've
    been here. According to their web site, NC has 340 locations. Other
    states with them are AL 31, AK 2, FL 10, GA 104, IL 2, KY 9, MD 5, MS
    1, PA 2, LA 1, SC 142, TN 71, VA 70 and WV 1. That's as of this year.

    In that instance I was talking about Raising Cane's. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I sometimes get my tongue over my eye teeth and can't see what
    I'm saying. Bv)=


    OK, all clear now. Have to head down to Camp Lejeune some time to check
    it out. Actually, we used to live in Swansboro, still have friends
    there. We got up to Jacksonville quite often, on base, not as often.

    tells me there are none in my state. We are getting a Raising Cane's
    on the site of a really good (and authentic) Mexican place. They have bulldozed the former building(s) and are erecting a new structure on
    the site. Once they have opened and things have had a chance to calm
    down I'll try them out. They are located *very* close to the

    I've only heard of them from you, never seen one in all our travels.

    There are 30+ locations in Aridzona. They are also moving into the middleeasten region (Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab
    Emirates)

    We head out to AZ quite often so we may see one next time we're out that
    way. Doubt we'll be travelling to the middle east any time soon. (G)


    Guess we'll probably see them when we head west again, probably next
    year.

    No doubt. My friend Les and I had lunch at the re-opened Casa Real (in
    an old Quaker Steak & Lube building). I preferred the decor/atmosphere
    in their old location. But the food/service was quite good (as
    expected).

    And in the end, good food and good company are what's really important.


    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid
    white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.

    Good on them. I hope they make a go of it.

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white) rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    Pizza Hut has gone to delivery/drive through only nationwide. <SHRUG>
    I have many better places for sit-down pizza available to me as well
    as a local mini-chain that is delivery/pick-up only which consistently wins
    the "Best of" polls put on by each of my local papers.

    Our favorite pizza is still our home made. (G)


    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,
    "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in the "small type" as 'processed cheese
    product'.

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold in them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    I'm paying them for the convenience factor. And I understand that.

    Your money, your choice. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Nov 21 16:31:37 2022
    Hi Dave,


    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH
    .....

    Personal choice; we both like it in small quantities but not
    overpowering.


    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    That, OTOH, is a keeper. Depending on how the sausage is seasoned, a
    dash of poultry seasoning or sage would go good in the gravy.

    If you are using breakfast sauage there should be plenty of sage in
    the mix. I know that both Jimmy Dean and Bob Evans have noticable sage
    as a part of their flavour profile.

    OK, we usually don't buy breakfast sausage. Guess a taste test is needed
    before adjusting seasonings.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Nov 23 06:17:17 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And in the end, good food and good company are what's really important.

    Meals out are *always* a social occasion for me. Even if it's just the interaction with the wait staff.

    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid
    white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.

    Good on them. I hope they make a go of it.

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white) rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    Pizza Hut has gone to delivery/drive through only nationwide. <SHRUG>
    I have many better places for sit-down pizza available to me as well
    as a local mini-chain that is delivery/pick-up only which consistently wins
    the "Best of" polls put on by each of my local papers.

    Our favorite pizza is still our home made. (G)

    I've attempted ho-made pizza a few times but never got it "right". So,
    store bought is best for me. The closest I came to ho-made is to buy a
    Papa Murphy's "Take & Bake" pie and tart it up with extra ingredients.

    8<----- SLICE ----->B

    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,
    "Swiss" (it's not really and should be labelled as ersatz in some way beyond just being noted in the "small type" as 'processed cheese
    product'.

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold in them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    I'm paying them for the convenience factor. And I understand that.

    Your money, your choice. (G)

    In-zackly. The small premium to not have to muck about with getting out
    the sucky-bag machine, etc. is well worth it to me.

    RE: Sage

    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH
    .....

    Personal choice; we both like it in small quantities but not
    overpowering.

    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    That, OTOH, is a keeper. Depending on how the sausage is seasoned, a
    dash of poultry seasoning or sage would go good in the gravy.

    If you are using breakfast sauage there should be plenty of sage in
    the mix. I know that both Jimmy Dean and Bob Evans have noticeable
    sage as a part of their flavour profile.

    OK, we usually don't buy breakfast sausage. Guess a taste test is
    needed before adjusting seasonings.

    What type of sausage do you use? I have made B&G w/Italian (both sweet
    and hot) sausage. But, since I look on biscuits n' gravy as a breakfast
    thing I generally use breakfast sausage. Mostly Morrison's - a local & well-regarded brand.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Breakfast Sausage
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 10 Pounds

    10 lb Boneless pork
    5 tb Salt
    1 tb Ground white pepper
    2 tb Rubbed sage; to taste
    1 ts Ginger
    1 tb Nutmeg
    1 tb Ground red pepper; optional
    1 pt Ice water

    Cool meat to 32┬║F-35┬║F. Grind through a 3/16" plate
    and place in a mixing bowl.

    Add all ingredients and mix well. (water too).

    Stuff in 28-30mm hog casings. Place in refrigerator
    as soon as possible. Chill well, and package as
    desired.

    NOTES: Keep meats as cold as possible.

    UDD NOTES: Since I prefer my breakfast sausage as
    patties rather than links I use my patty press and
    ten to the pound (ish) patties. Or keep it in bulk
    fur use in biscuits & gravy or making meatballs.

    For casings and other sausage supplies:

    The Sausage Maker
    177 Military Road
    Buffalo, NY 14207
    716-876-5521

    Recipe By: The Sausage Maker

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... Bottom Line: Chocolate is good.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 23 13:43:21 2022
    Hi Dave,

    And in the end, good food and good company are what's really important.

    Meals out are *always* a social occasion for me. Even if it's just the interaction with the wait staff.

    Most of the time I have company for a meal out, usually Steve but
    sometimes others as well, or instead.

    BTW, had an appointment in Raleigh yesterday, GPS directed us by the
    Steak and Shake location. Looked over, saw a big repainted (solid
    white) building advertising "Sean's Shakes" so it seems the S&S folded.

    Good on them. I hope they make a go of it.

    Same here. Our local Pizza Hut downsized into a drive thru during the worst of the pandemic, building stood empty for a while. A few months
    ago a Carribean influenced place moved in; we checked them out for
    supper tonight. My picadillo was very good, could have used a bit of
    heat. Steve's chicken & dumplings would have done an Amish grandma
    proud. Both of us had enough leftovers for another meal--I had (white) rice and a fruit cup with mine; Steve had fried plantains and black
    beans. We will be making at least one, if not more, return visits to
    that place.

    Pizza Hut has gone to delivery/drive through only nationwide. <SHRUG>
    I have many better places for sit-down pizza available to me as well
    as a local mini-chain that is delivery/pick-up only which consistently wins
    the "Best of" polls put on by each of my local papers.

    Our favorite pizza is still our home made. (G)

    I've attempted ho-made pizza a few times but never got it "right". So, store bought is best for me. The closest I came to ho-made is to buy a Papa Murphy's "Take & Bake" pie and tart it up with extra ingredients.

    I'll have to post our recipe later. Right now I'm running on low battery
    & don't want to run out 1/2 way thru.


    I find that any cheese sold individually wrapped as "singles" is *officially* "process(ed) cheese" .... whether it be pepper-jack,

    It's not worth the money you have to shell out for it.

    Depends on your usage. The individual wrapping extends the shelf life tremendously. I'm tired of having cheese go mouldy on me. If I'm going
    to eat mouldy cheese I want it to be a planned mold - Gorgonzola,
    Bleu, Stilton, etc.

    Wrap it in a seal-a-meal type bag; we found that cheese doesn't mold in them. Of course you need to reseal it after every use but they do make resealable (with a hand held unit) bags.

    I'm paying them for the convenience factor. And I understand that.

    Your money, your choice. (G)


    out the sucky-bag machine, etc. is well worth it to me.

    Ours is out on a regular basis. Yesterday we put up 2 pkgs (pound and
    half each) of lamb, 5 pkgs of a squash/apple casserole. Also set a
    serving aside of the latter for tomorrow, plus some lamb.

    RE: Sage

    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH

    Personal choice; we both like it in small quantities but not
    overpowering.

    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    That, OTOH, is a keeper. Depending on how the sausage is seasoned, a
    dash of poultry seasoning or sage would go good in the gravy.

    If you are using breakfast sauage there should be plenty of sage in
    the mix. I know that both Jimmy Dean and Bob Evans have noticeable
    sage as a part of their flavour profile.

    OK, we usually don't buy breakfast sausage. Guess a taste test is
    needed before adjusting seasonings.

    What type of sausage do you use? I have made B&G w/Italian (both sweet
    and hot) sausage. But, since I look on biscuits n' gravy as a
    breakfast thing I generally use breakfast sausage. Mostly Morrison's -
    a local & well-regarded brand.

    Biscuits are an any meal thing for us. Supper is sometimes chicken &
    gravy over biscuit; lunch can be soup with a biscuit; breakfast--ham or
    sausage biscuit or sometimes just cheese melted on one; etc.

    Title: Breakfast Sausage
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 10 Pounds

    For casings and other sausage supplies:

    The Sausage Maker
    177 Military Road
    Buffalo, NY 14207
    716-876-5521

    Hmmmmmmm, wonder if they took over from the place Dad used to get
    sausages (usually various summer types) years ago.


    ... Bottom Line: Chocolate is always good.

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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Nov 25 04:52:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Our favorite pizza is still our home made. (G)

    I've attempted ho-made pizza a few times but never got it "right". So, store bought is best for me. The closest I came to ho-made is to buy a Papa Murphy's "Take & Bake" pie and tart it up with extra ingredients.

    I'll have to post our recipe later. Right now I'm running on low
    battery & don't want to run out 1/2 way thru.

    I have my specialities and favourites to make. Pizza isn't one of them.

    RE: Sage

    One tablespoon of fresh is *not* a lot. A tablespoon of dry, OTOH

    Personal choice; we both like it in small quantities but not
    overpowering.

    Title: Dutch Oven Sausage Gravy
    Categories: Five, Pork, Dairy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    That, OTOH, is a keeper. Depending on how the sausage is seasoned, a
    dash of poultry seasoning or sage would go good in the gravy.

    If you are using breakfast sauage there should be plenty of sage in
    the mix. I know that both Jimmy Dean and Bob Evans have noticeable
    sage as a part of their flavour profile.

    OK, we usually don't buy breakfast sausage. Guess a taste test is
    needed before adjusting seasonings.

    What type of sausage do you use? I have made B&G w/Italian (both sweet
    and hot) sausage. But, since I look on biscuits n' gravy as a
    breakfast thing I generally use breakfast sausage. Mostly Morrison's -
    a local & well-regarded brand.

    Biscuits are an any meal thing for us. Supper is sometimes chicken &
    gravy over biscuit; lunch can be soup with a biscuit; breakfast--ham or sausage biscuit or sometimes just cheese melted on one; etc.

    Certainly biscuirts are an "anytime" thing. But, you're changing direction
    on me. Biscuits & Gravy is most definitely a breakfast dish. Even if
    you're having it in the evening. Breakfast does *not* have to be at the
    crack of yawn.

    Title: Breakfast Sausage
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 10 Pounds

    For casings and other sausage supplies:

    The Sausage Maker
    177 Military Road
    Buffalo, NY 14207
    716-876-5521

    Hmmmmmmm, wonder if they took over from the place Dad used to get
    sausages (usually various summer types) years ago.

    After they dig out from the six (or more) feet of snow you might ask?

    ... Bottom Line: Chocolate is always good.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chocolate Biscuits
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Chocolate
    Yield: 25 biscuits

    250 g Butter; softened
    350 g Light soft brown sugar
    2 lg Eggs
    350 g Self-raising flour
    100 g Cocoa powder
    200 g Chocolate chips or chopped
    - chocolate chunks
    +=OR=+
    400 g Chocolate chips or chopped
    - chocolate chunks for opt'l
    - dipping (choose your
    - favourite type)

    Beat the butter and sugar together with an optional
    pinch of sea salt in a bowl until light and fluffy, then
    beat in the eggs one at a time. Sift over the flour and
    cocoa powder and beat into the butter mix, then fold
    through the chocolate chips. The mix can be made up to 2
    days ahead and chilled or frozen for a month, or used
    straight away.

    To bake, set oven @ 190ºC/375ºF (170ºC/340ºF fan) gas 5.
    If the mix is at room temperature, place evenly spaced
    spoonfuls on parchment-lined baking sheets, allowing 2
    tbsp for each cookie. If the mix is fridge cold, you can
    roll it into 40g balls before baking. The balls can be
    frozen and the biscuits baked from frozen, but they’ll
    need a few minutes more. Bake for 12-15 mins until
    spread out and crusty around the outside. Leave to cool
    slightly and enjoy warm, or leave to cool completely and
    eat cold. The biscuits will keep in a tin for three
    days.

    As an optional extra, the biscuits can be dipped in
    chocolate. To do this, melt your chosen type of
    chocolate in a bowl over a pan of simmering water or in
    the microwave. Leave to cool a little, then dip half of
    each biscuit in the chocolate and leave them on
    parchment-lined trays somewhere cool to set. Again, the
    dipped biscuits will keep for up to three days in a tin
    or lidded plastic container.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Nov 25 10:05:02 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Biscuits are an any meal thing for us. Supper is sometimes chicken &
    gravy over biscuit; lunch can be soup with a biscuit; breakfast--ham or sausage biscuit or sometimes just cheese melted on one; etc.

    Tonight will be leftover hamburger "steak" and mushroom gravy from the freezer and I'll whip up a quick 4 biscuit mix. I freeze the buttermilk in handy portions for that. ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Nov 25 23:50:00 2022
    On 11-25-22 10:05, Shawn Highfield <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Qwik Serve <=-

    Biscuits are an any meal thing for us. Supper is sometimes chicken &
    gravy over biscuit; lunch can be soup with a biscuit; breakfast--ham or sausage biscuit or sometimes just cheese melted on one; etc.

    Tonight will be leftover hamburger "steak" and mushroom gravy from the freezer and I'll whip up a quick 4 biscuit mix. I freeze the
    buttermilk in handy portions for that. ;)

    We like a gravy made from the Golden Mushroom condensed soup. Add some seasonings of your choice and dilute according to your taste.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Beef Stroganoff
    Categories: Beef, D/g, Boat
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 lb Round steak, cut in thin
    -strips
    1/4 c Flour
    -Dash Pepper
    1/4 c Butter or margarine
    4 oz Can sliced mushrooms
    -drained (or fresh
    -sliced)
    1/2 c Chopped onion
    1 sm Clove garlic, chopped or
    -pressed
    10 1/2 oz Can condensed beef broth or
    -consomme
    1 c Sour cream
    -Noodles or Rice

    Dust meat with flour and pepper. In Skillet, brown meat in
    butter.

    Add mushrooms, onion, garlic, brown lightly.

    Stir in soup, cover cook over low heat - slight simmer one hour
    or until meat is tender. Stir often.

    Check to make sure meat and sauce are not sticking to pan, and
    add a little water at a time to prevent sticking.

    When meat is tender, gradually blend in sour cream, cook slowly
    for 5 minutes.

    Serve over rice or noodles.

    Serves 2 - 3 depending on appetite and salads, etc.

    == Courtesy of Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md. ===

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Nov 25 19:15:43 2022
    Hi Dave,

    Our favorite pizza is still our home made. (G)

    I've attempted ho-made pizza a few times but never got it "right". So, store bought is best for me. The closest I came to ho-made is to buy a Papa Murphy's "Take & Bake" pie and tart it up with extra ingredients.

    I'll have to post our recipe later. Right now I'm running on low
    battery & don't want to run out 1/2 way thru.

    I have my specialities and favourites to make. Pizza isn't one of
    them.

    Don't we all? (G) We have a Papa Murphy's in town but we've never gone
    over there. A friend, that did when they first opened, said they didn't
    do whole wheat crusts. Our favorite is a simple crust, makes up in about
    5-10 minutes, rises while other ingredients are being prepped and bakes
    15-20 minutes. Start to finish, you can be eating your pizza in less
    than an hour if you keep toppings simple.

    RE: Sage

    If you are using breakfast sauage there should be plenty of sage in
    the mix. I know that both Jimmy Dean and Bob Evans have noticeable
    sage as a part of their flavour profile.

    OK, we usually don't buy breakfast sausage. Guess a taste test is
    needed before adjusting seasonings.

    What type of sausage do you use? I have made B&G w/Italian (both sweet
    and hot) sausage. But, since I look on biscuits n' gravy as a
    breakfast thing I generally use breakfast sausage. Mostly Morrison's -
    a local & well-regarded brand.

    Most often, sweet (sometimes hot) Italian sausage is the one in our
    fridge or freezer. We do have some beef chorizo (locally made) on hand
    from time to time, bought down at the local farmer's market.


    Biscuits are an any meal thing for us. Supper is sometimes chicken &
    gravy over biscuit; lunch can be soup with a biscuit; breakfast--ham or sausage biscuit or sometimes just cheese melted on one; etc.

    Certainly biscuirts are an "anytime" thing. But, you're changing
    direction on me. Biscuits & Gravy is most definitely a breakfast
    dish. Even if
    you're having it in the evening. Breakfast does *not* have to be at
    the crack of yawn.

    For me, breakfast is most often in the 8:30-9:30 range, when my eyes are
    open enough to see what I'm doing. I always start by brewing up a cuppa
    British Blend tea.

    Title: Breakfast Sausage
    Categories: Pork, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 10 Pounds

    For casings and other sausage supplies:

    The Sausage Maker
    177 Military Road
    Buffalo, NY 14207
    716-876-5521

    Hmmmmmmm, wonder if they took over from the place Dad used to get
    sausages (usually various summer types) years ago.

    After they dig out from the six (or more) feet of snow you might ask?

    Might do a quick on line search; usually not weather dependant.


    ... Bottom Line: Chocolate is always good.


    Title: Chocolate Biscuits
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Chocolate
    Yield: 25 biscuits

    250 g Butter; softened
    350 g Light soft brown sugar
    2 lg Eggs
    350 g Self-raising flour
    100 g Cocoa powder
    200 g Chocolate chips or chopped
    - chocolate chunks
    +=OR=+
    400 g Chocolate chips or chopped
    - chocolate chunks for opt'l
    - dipping (choose your
    - favourite type)

    Something to consider when there's no ready to eat chocolate in the
    house.

    With tongue planted firmly in cheek. Always. Life ain't in now ways serious.

    ... "England and America are two countries separated by a common
    language"

    A couple of weeks ago somebody said "good morning" to me, then realised
    it was afternoon so then said "good afternoon". It wasn't that far after
    noon so I said that "you could always say 'g'day' like our Austrailian
    friends do". That brought a laugh and "you're right".

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Nov 27 05:26:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I have my specialities and favourites to make. Pizza isn't one of
    them.

    Don't we all? (G) We have a Papa Murphy's in town but we've never gone over there. A friend, that did when they first opened, said they didn't
    do whole wheat crusts. Our favorite is a simple crust, makes up in
    about 5-10 minutes, rises while other ingredients are being prepped and bakes 15-20 minutes. Start to finish, you can be eating your pizza in
    less than an hour if you keep toppings simple.

    Whole wheat is definitely *not* a traditional pizza crust. My personal favourite is a thin crust with lots of toppings. Especially meaty
    toppings. My most non-traditional pizza was one had in St. Pie, Quebec.

    The place was run bu Greeks, so I was an American in a Greek restaurant
    dining on an Italian dish made with Gyros meat in a French-speaking part
    of Canadia.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->B

    Certainly biscuirts are an "anytime" thing. But, you're changing
    direction on me. Biscuits & Gravy is most definitely a breakfast
    dish. Even if you're having it in the evening. Breakfast does *not*
    have to be at the crack of yawn.

    For me, breakfast is most often in the 8:30-9:30 range, when my eyes
    are open enough to see what I'm doing. I always start by brewing up a cuppa British Blend tea.

    I've an automatic coffee brewer which the timer activates @ 04:00 (my
    usual rising time) Breakfast generally follows the second cup of black
    and bitter.

    8<----- AGAIN ----->B

    Something to consider when there's no ready to eat chocolate in the
    house.

    With tongue planted firmly in cheek. Always. Life ain't in now ways serious.

    ... "England and America are two countries separated by a common
    language"

    A couple of weeks ago somebody said "good morning" to me, then realised
    it was afternoon so then said "good afternoon". It wasn't that far
    after noon so I said that "you could always say 'g'day' like our Austrailian friends do". That brought a laugh and "you're right".

    My usual greeting is some form of "What's up?" Or "How are you doing?"

    Made this in the big crockpot the other day for supper:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Welcome Home Pot
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes, Beans, Grains
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 3/4 c Beef broth
    4 lb Beef short ribs
    2 Onions; chopped
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    3 Red potatoes; quartered
    4 Carrots; in 1" chunks
    32 oz (2 cans) vegetarian baked
    - beans
    1/3 c Pearled barley

    In a 6 quart soup pot, combine broth, short ribs,
    onions, salt, and pepper; bring to a boil over high
    heat. Reduce heat to low, cover, and simmer 1-1/2 hours.
    Stir in remaining ingredients, cover, and simmer 40 to
    45 minutes, or until meat and vegetables are
    fork-tender.

    Skim off fat; serve immediately.

    UDD Note: Bush's Baked Beans (regular) worked well in
    this. Not a lot to save so the dogs got the bones, etc.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Nov 26 16:28:20 2022
    Hi Shawn,

    Biscuits are an any meal thing for us. Supper is sometimes chicken &
    gravy over biscuit; lunch can be soup with a biscuit; breakfast--ham or sausage biscuit or sometimes just cheese melted on one; etc.

    Tonight will be leftover hamburger "steak" and mushroom gravy from the freezer and I'll whip up a quick 4 biscuit mix. I freeze the
    buttermilk in handy portions for that. ;)

    Sounds good--and I like the idea of freezing the buttermilk in portions.
    I'll have to remember it next time we buy some as we don't use it that
    fast. Most of the time the smallest size we can get is a quart and need
    just a cup.

    We just had our Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday. Since it was just
    Steve and me this year, we did a non traditional meal--a lamb ragu' done
    in the (not brand name) Instant Pot over whole wheat rigatoni, an apple
    and butternut squash casserole, pumpkin bars and apple crisp. The latter
    called for just apples but I put in both raisins and chopped walnuts
    also. It was the first, but not the last time for that tweak. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 28 09:20:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Sounds good--and I like the idea of freezing the buttermilk in
    portions. I'll have to remember it next time we buy some as we don't
    use it that fast. Most of the time the smallest size we can get is a
    quart and need just a cup.

    That's why I do it that way, I don't drink it and can't eat enough
    baked goods to finish before it goes bad. I keep it in the portions
    for 4 biscuits and if I need more I use two bags.

    We just had our Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday. Since it was just walnuts also. It was the first, but not the last time for that tweak.
    (G)

    Sounds good! We did thanksgiving yesterday I cooked the traditional meal started at 8am and didn't stop until we ate at 5:30pm. lol Now I'm tired
    and need a day off. hahaha

    Shawn

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Nov 27 20:11:28 2022
    Hi Dave,

    I have my specialities and favourites to make. Pizza isn't one of

    Don't we all? (G) We have a Papa Murphy's in town but we've never gone over there. A friend, that did when they first opened, said they didn't
    do whole wheat crusts. Our favorite is a simple crust, makes up in
    about 5-10 minutes, rises while other ingredients are being prepped and bakes 15-20 minutes. Start to finish, you can be eating your pizza in
    less than an hour if you keep toppings simple.

    Whole wheat is definitely *not* a traditional pizza crust. My personal

    It's the standard for us. We don't keep white flour in the house. When
    we first got married, we used commercial hot roll mix fro pizza crust.
    Over the next few years we switched to all whole wheat flour for everything--using hard winter wheat for bread making, a soft, spring
    wheat for quick breads, pastries, etc. The pizza crust is made with the
    winter wheat. Sometimes I'll mix in a bit of other flours but most of
    them are lower in gluten and we like a nice thick crust.

    favourite is a thin crust with lots of toppings. Especially meaty toppings. My most non-traditional pizza was one had in St. Pie,
    Quebec.

    The place was run bu Greeks, so I was an American in a Greek
    restaurant dining on an Italian dish made with Gyros meat in a French-speaking part of Canadia.

    Sounds interesting but the problem with thin crust pizza is keeping all
    of the toppings on without the curst collapsing. No problem of that with
    a thicker crust. (G)

    8<----- XXXXX ----->B

    Certainly biscuirts are an "anytime" thing. But, you're changing
    direction on me. Biscuits & Gravy is most definitely a breakfast
    dish. Even if you're having it in the evening. Breakfast does *not*
    have to be at the crack of yawn.

    For me, breakfast is most often in the 8:30-9:30 range, when my eyes
    are open enough to see what I'm doing. I always start by brewing up a cuppa British Blend tea.

    I've an automatic coffee brewer which the timer activates @ 04:00 (my usual rising time) Breakfast generally follows the second cup of black
    and bitter.

    Since I'm self employed, I don't have to get up as early. Main project
    this week (besides routine work) is shortening a couple of pairs of
    trousers for a friend. That should be about one afternoon's work.


    Something to consider when there's no ready to eat chocolate in the
    house.

    With tongue planted firmly in cheek. Always. Life ain't in now ways serious.

    ... "England and America are two countries separated by a common
    language"

    A couple of weeks ago somebody said "good morning" to me, then realised
    it was afternoon so then said "good afternoon". It wasn't that far
    after noon so I said that "you could always say 'g'day' like our Austrailian friends do". That brought a laugh and "you're right".

    My usual greeting is some form of "What's up?" Or "How are you doing?"

    I usually say "hey", typical southern. (G)

    Made this in the big crockpot the other day for supper:

    Title: Welcome Home Pot
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes, Beans, Grains
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks like it would have been a good stomach filler, esspecially on a
    cold, wet day. Today was the 48th anniversary of when Steve proposed to
    me and then took me out for seafood so after church we went to our
    favorite seafood place in Raleigh for lunch. He had shrimp diavalo over
    penne pasta; I had shrimp and grits, lunchtime portions were ample for
    us. Blueberry cobbler a la mode for both of us for dessert rounded out
    an enjoyable meal.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From August Abolins@4:920/1.58 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Nov 28 11:23:03 2022
    Sounds interesting but the problem with thin crust pizza is keeping all
    of the toppings on without the curst collapsing. No problem of that with
    a thicker crust. (G)

    there's no shame in using a knife and fork


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Nov 29 06:10:00 2022
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    favourite is a thin crust with lots of toppings. Especially meaty toppings. My most non-traditional pizza was one had in St. Pie,
    Quebec.

    The place was run bu Greeks, so I was an American in a Greek
    restaurant dining on an Italian dish made with Gyros meat in a French-speaking part of Canadia.

    Sounds interesting but the problem with thin crust pizza is keeping all
    of the toppings on without the curst collapsing. No problem of that
    with a thicker crust. (G)

    I'm pretty sure you have silverware available. And plates. Bv)=

    8<----- XXXXX ----->B

    Certainly biscuirts are an "anytime" thing. But, you're changing
    direction on me. Biscuits & Gravy is most definitely a breakfast
    dish. Even if you're having it in the evening. Breakfast does *not*
    have to be at the crack of yawn.

    For me, breakfast is most often in the 8:30-9:30 range, when my eyes
    are open enough to see what I'm doing. I always start by brewing up a cuppa British Blend tea.

    I've an automatic coffee brewer which the timer activates @ 04:00 (my usual rising time) Breakfast generally follows the second cup of black
    and bitter.

    Since I'm self employed, I don't have to get up as early. Main project this week (besides routine work) is shortening a couple of pairs of trousers for a friend. That should be about one afternoon's work.

    I'm up at 04:00 most days because that's when my body moves and my mind switches on. Since I won't be able to go back to sleep I might as well
    be up and doing. And sometimes for supper I'll have a nice bowl of (a
    big latte cup, really) of oatmeal or bacon 'n eggs ... which most think
    is breakfast fare.

    Made this in the big crockpot the other day for supper:

    Title: Welcome Home Pot
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes, Beans, Grains
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks like it would have been a good stomach filler, esspecially on a cold, wet day.

    It was tasty on any sort of day.

    This is a breakfast favourite which can be done for any meal and for
    one or two by adjusting the quantities. Doubles well for largers groups
    if necessary.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chorizo Fritatta
    Categories: Five, Pork, Eggs, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Bulk chorizo
    1 lg Onion; peeled, diced
    1 lg Bell pepper; seeded, diced
    8 lg Eggs; well beaten
    1 lb Bag cubed potatoes for hash
    - browns

    Using an oven-proof skillet render the chorizo until done
    to your liking. Reserve to the side, leaving the oil
    behind in the pan.

    Add the potatoes, diced onion and bell pepper and saute
    in the chorizo grease until the potatoes are cooked to
    your liking.

    Beat the eggs well and add the chorizo and beaten eggs
    to the potatoes and vegetables in the skillet. Pop into
    a 350-|F/175-|C oven just until the eggs are set.

    Garnish the top of the fritatta with shredded cheese if
    desired. Serve with fresh salsa cruda or pico di gallo.

    Serves 4 generously

    An Uncle Dirty Dave Special

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to August Abolins on Tue Nov 29 06:18:00 2022
    August Abolins wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Sounds interesting but the problem with thin crust pizza is keeping all
    of the toppings on without the curst collapsing. No problem of that with
    a thicker crust. (G)

    there's no shame in using a knife and fork

    Or plates, even. As I told her. Bv)= Or baking the crust past al dente
    stage to crispy (but not burned).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mini Ham & Swiss Frittatas
    Categories: Five, Pork, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 8 Servings

    6 sl Ementhal cheese; fine chop'd
    6 sl Deli ham; fine chopped
    8 lg Eggs
    1/2 ts (ea) onion & garlic powder
    1/4 ts Fresh ground black pepper

    SPECIAL EQUIPMENT: Mini-muffin tin

    Set oven @ 375-|F/190-|C.

    Prepare mini-muffin pan with cooking spray.

    Toss cheese and ham together in a bowl; distribute
    evenly between the 24 prepared muffin cups.

    Beat eggs, onion powder, garlic powder, and pepper
    together with a whisk in a bowl; pour in equal amounts
    over ham and cheese in muffin cups.

    Bake until tops turn light golden brown, about 12
    minutes. Remove frittatas from cups with a spoon.

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 30 00:08:00 2022
    On 11-29-22 06:10, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Re: Biscuits <=-

    Since I'm self employed, I don't have to get up as early. Main project this week (besides routine work) is shortening a couple of pairs of trousers for a friend. That should be about one afternoon's work.

    I'm up at 04:00 most days because that's when my body moves and my
    mind switches on. Since I won't be able to go back to sleep I might as well be up and doing. And sometimes for supper I'll have a nice bowl of
    (a big latte cup, really) of oatmeal or bacon 'n eggs ... which most
    think is breakfast fare.

    OTOH, I am often just going to bed after 4:00 am :-}}

    How would this be for a breakfast food for you?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Cheese Stuffed Mild Peppers
    Categories: D/g, Mexican, Vegetable, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings

    6 md Sized green mild peppers
    -(Anaheim or similar)*
    1 c Shredded monterey jack
    -cheese
    1/2 c Sharp cheddar
    1 Beaten egg
    1/2 c Cooked rice (if you have it
    -on hand)

    *I would now use poblano peppers for their deeper flavor and slightly
    higher heat level.

    Split peppers in a "T" fashion starting top of T 1/2 inch from
    stem. Split bottom of T down length of pepper. Scrape out
    seeds, leave stem in place.

    Mix cheeses, egg, and rice in bowl.

    Stuff mixture in peppers.

    Place in oven proof dish, bake for 25 minutes at 400.

    == Courtesy of Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md. ===

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Wed Nov 30 05:18:00 2022
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Since I'm self employed, I don't have to get up as early. Main project this week (besides routine work) is shortening a couple of pairs of trousers for a friend. That should be about one afternoon's work.

    I'm up at 04:00 most days because that's when my body moves and my
    mind switches on. Since I won't be able to go back to sleep I might as well be up and doing. And sometimes for supper I'll have a nice bowl of
    (a big latte cup, really) of oatmeal or bacon 'n eggs ... which most
    think is breakfast fare.

    OTOH, I am often just going to bed after 4:00 am :-}}

    Everyone's body clock is in a different time zone. When I wore a younger
    man's clothes I couldn't understand how my Dad and Granddad could hit
    the shucks so early and arise at sparrow-fart. Now I seem to have turned
    into my own grandpa.

    How would this be for a breakfast food for you?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Cheese Stuffed Mild Peppers
    Categories: D/g, Mexican, Vegetable, Cheese
    Yield: 4 servings

    As a side with eggs and meat - sure. Or with any other meal. I'm with
    you on the poblano chilies.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Rice w/Fried Egg & Chorizo
    Categories: Five, Pork, Rice, Eggs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 tb Oil
    2 c Cooked rice (leftover or
    - purpose cooked)
    1 tb Minced garlic; or more
    4 lg Eggs
    6 oz Chorizo; crumbled

    Heat the oil in large frying pan or skillet over
    medium-high heat. Add the garlic and saute until fragrant.
    Add cooked rice. Stir-fry until rice is coated with oil
    and is beginning to brown. Set aside.

    Place a separate frying pan over medium heat, remove
    chorizo from casing and cook - stirring often until
    browned and cooked thorough (about 5 minutes).

    Fry eggs to your liking. When done, top each serving of
    garlic fried rice with chorizo and a fried egg.

    Note from Mr Breakfast: The breakfast lover who sent us
    this recipe didn't submit quantities for the ingredients.
    So until I hear back from them, the above quantities are
    an educated approximation. To make 2 cups of rice, bring 1
    and 1/2 cups water to a boil. Stir in 3/4 cup uncooked
    white rice. Cover. Cut heat to low and simmer for 20
    minutes. There will be a little bit of rice left over.

    Makes 2 servings

    This flavorful combination of garlic rice, fried eggs and
    spicy sausage is somewhat popular for breakfast in the
    Philippines.

    UDD NOTE: I like to fry/scramble the chorizo with the
    eggs. And use left-over short-grain (sticky) rice. For a
    single serving decrease the rice to a single cup and the
    eggs to just two leave everything else (garlic, chorizo)
    as is.

    From: http://www.mrbreakfast.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Nov 29 15:24:07 2022
    Hi Shawn,

    Sounds good--and I like the idea of freezing the buttermilk in
    portions. I'll have to remember it next time we buy some as we don't
    use it that fast. Most of the time the smallest size we can get is a
    quart and need just a cup.

    That's why I do it that way, I don't drink it and can't eat enough
    baked goods to finish before it goes bad. I keep it in the portions
    for 4 biscuits and if I need more I use two bags.

    Don't know if I'd use bags (can lay them flat) or little containers
    (less likely to puncture). Guess I'll decide once I have some
    buttermilk. (G)


    We just had our Thanksgiving holiday on Thursday. Since it was just walnuts also. It was the first, but not the last time for that tweak.
    (G)

    Sounds good! We did thanksgiving yesterday I cooked the traditional
    meal started at 8am and didn't stop until we ate at 5:30pm. lol Now
    I'm tired and need a day off. hahaha

    You must have done quite a good sized meal. Steve found an organic (no hormones, injections, other not so good stuff) at Lidl yesterday.
    Original price was $60. and change, he got it for $20. something. It's
    in our freezer now. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to August Abolins on Tue Nov 29 15:28:28 2022
    Hi August,

    Sounds interesting but the problem with thin crust pizza is keeping all
    of the toppings on without the curst collapsing. No problem of that with
    a thicker crust. (G)

    there's no shame in using a knife and fork

    No, no problem there. I'd most likely eat it that way, after asking for
    the knife and fork. After all, I use a fork in an Asian place instead of chopsticks; my wrists just don't co-operate that well with the latter.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Nov 29 15:30:59 2022
    Hi Dave,

    Sounds interesting but the problem with thin crust pizza is keeping all
    of the toppings on without the curst collapsing. No problem of that
    with a thicker crust. (G)

    I'm pretty sure you have silverware available. And plates. Bv)=

    I've used flatware many times when neccessary.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->B

    Certainly biscuirts are an "anytime" thing. But, you're changing
    dish. Even if you're having it in the evening. Breakfast does *not*
    have to be at the crack of yawn.

    For me, breakfast is most often in the 8:30-9:30 range, when my eyes
    are open enough to see what I'm doing. I always start by brewing up a cuppa British Blend tea.

    I've an automatic coffee brewer which the timer activates @ 04:00 (my usual rising time) Breakfast generally follows the second cup of black
    and bitter.

    Since I'm self employed, I don't have to get up as early. Main project this week (besides routine work) is shortening a couple of pairs of trousers for a friend. That should be about one afternoon's work.

    I'm up at 04:00 most days because that's when my body moves and my
    mind switches on. Since I won't be able to go back to sleep I might as

    Makes the most sense. Some nights I've not even gotten to sleep by
    04:00, even tho I've been trying since about 11:00 or so the day before.

    well
    be up and doing. And sometimes for supper I'll have a nice bowl of (a
    big latte cup, really) of oatmeal or bacon 'n eggs ... which most
    think is breakfast fare.

    I grew up with just cereal for breakfast. Bacon & eggs, pancakes, etc
    were lunch time or Sunday night supper food.

    Made this in the big crockpot the other day for supper:

    Title: Welcome Home Pot
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Potatoes, Beans, Grains
    Yield: 4 servings

    Looks like it would have been a good stomach filler, esspecially on a cold, wet day.

    It was tasty on any sort of day.

    Definatly!

    This is a breakfast favourite which can be done for any meal and for
    one or two by adjusting the quantities. Doubles well for largers
    groups if necessary.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chorizo Fritatta
    Categories: Five, Pork, Eggs, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    I'd tweak it a bit to serve just Steve and me but it does look good.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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