Over the past several years, I keep hearing about how Intel is struggling in the market now. Since 2020 or so, it seems AMD has had a steady advantage with their processors over Intel. I remember seeing some benchmarks in 2020 showing AMD's flagship desktop processor was beating Intel's flagship desktop processor in many areas. Not to say Intel is making bad stuff, but it seems AMD has been fairly steadily popular with a lot of PC builders for several years.

I worked at Intel from 2011 to the end of 2019, and while I was there, I started to hear about Intel's chip manufacturing struggling and falling behind around 2018-2019 or so. TSMC's chip manufacturing process had surpassed Intel's, allowing AMD and other chip makers to make smaller transistors for their chips, and Intel struggled with that. Although Intel has tended to manufacture its own chips, I've heard Intel has now outsourced some of their chips to TSMC to make use of their process technology.

Also, while I was at Intel, I saw some changes in leadership at some fairly high levels. A couple of business group leaders left for other companies. The CEO also changed when I was there. Brian Krzanich was the CEO when I started, but eventually he was kicked out due to a supposed relationship with a subordinate - but I heard from others that people were unhappy with his leadership, as he was supposedly expected to help boost Intel's manufacturing, as Brian Krzanich was an engineer before becoming CEO. They had an interim CEO (Bob Swan) for a little while (who was in accounting) who eventually decided to become permanent CEO, but he didn't last long. They then brought in Pat Gelsinger, who was there for just a few years before resigning in 2024 (his plan to turn Intel around was apparently not working well enough).

At any rate, I've heard a lot of news about Intel recently that makes it sound like they're just not doing very well. For a while now, I've had a feeling they've had bad management, and sometimes it seems like Intel doesn't know where they want to go. Like many tech companies, they've had a lot of layoffs as they ramp up projects and then decide to cancel them, buy other companies & sell them, etc..

As Intel has been a behemoth in the computer industry for so long, it feels a bit surreal to me to see them seemingly fading away, particularly since I worked there for about 8 years..

Eric
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Over the past several years, I keep hearing about how Intel is struggling the market now. Since 2020 or so, it seems AMD has had a steady advantage with their processors over Intel. I remember seeing some benchmarks in 202 showing AMD's flagship desktop processor was beating Intel's flagship desk processor in many areas. Not to say Intel is making bad stuff, but it seem AMD has been fairly steadily popular with a lot of PC builders for several years.

It will be very weird if Intel falls, indeed. Seeing PC manufacturers like Dell and even Microsoft releasing computers with Snapdragon processors is surreal. I'm 44. Like the IBM PC, we both were introduced in 1981 LOL. My whole life being into computers, Intel has been one of the constants in an industry always changing. It was weird when IBM quit making PCs, and it will be weird if Intel shifts to something else and x86 is no longer the dominant processor for PCs/Windows machines.

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Re: Re: Intel: Once mighty, now falling?
By: Bo Holt to Eric Oulashin on Sun May 11 2025 10:25 am

PS - I just noticed this message may be in the wrong message area. Apologies!

My apologies too. I must have accidentally posted my message here.

Eric
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My apologies too. I must have accidentally posted my message here.

It was interesting anyway ... 8-)

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My apologies too. I must have accidentally posted my message here.

It was interesting anyway ... 8-)

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Just glad message boards on ole Fido are alive and well ;)

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on *6/28/2025* at *5:46:38* You wrote in area *10TH_AMD*
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My apologies too. I must have accidentally posted my message here.

It was interesting anyway ... 8-)

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Just glad message boards on ole Fido are alive and well ;)

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Some of them deserve to die...this one maybe?

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