• Re: 5G

    From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wed Aug 5 16:06:00 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Tue Aug 04 2020 10:38 pm

    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Mon Aug 03 2020 06:24 pm


    but liek i said, i've been hearing this shit since i was 18. machines
    will replace us.

    It replaces the workers who were previously doing those jobs. As more things become automated, more jobs become obsolete. I do agree that globalisation has been much more of a killer to US manufacturing than automation.

    I don't agree with this notion that if it hasn't happened yet, it'll ne happen. Technology always marches forward.

    well if someone keeps saying it's going to happen next year and it doesnt ha

    we have been using technology to make jobs easier, faster, more effective an

    Machines haven't been fast or "intelligent" enough. facial and voice recognition are major advances towards producing machines that can interract with people at an administrative level.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Wed Aug 5 21:30:28 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Moondog to Andeddu on Tue Aug 04 2020 11:43 am

    let's say a high rise building is being made in Dubai. Crane operators may be remotely operating the cranes from Mexico, Brunei, Malaysia, or somewhere else it may be cheaper to hire crane operators. the operator in Mexico drives to his company's office in Mexico City, and he enters a virtual cockpit and receives and sends orders through a translation system.


    so i got crane simulator loaded up and i just had taco bell, and i have to take a monster shit.

    baby comes in the room and start pounding on my cherry mx keys and now 100 people die.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Andeddu on Thu Aug 6 13:28:00 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Andeddu to Moondog on Wed Aug 05 2020 04:16 pm

    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Moondog to Andeddu on Tue Aug 04 2020 11:36 am

    A few years ago I was working with a military contractor, and the engonee were dealing with teaching the vehicle to drive along a hillside. As you drive parallel to an incline, gravity wants to act against the vehicle an pull you off your path. Not only must the vehicle compensate for this, i must be aware of it's own center of gravity to avoid tipping over.

    I am sure AI has overcome such issues these days. Have you seen the dogs and bipedal robots from Boston Dynamics? Robotics sure have come a long way sinc Honda's ASIMO. Tech/aritficial intellience advancement will snowball now muc in line with Moore's Law in relation to computer power.

    The issue has been overcome, but it's something that doesn't immediately come to mind when developing a driving program. It's like the early AI programs trying to understand written text. Before reading, an basic understanding of the universe must occur. When Abraham Lincold went to Springfield, IL, so
    did his feet. Stuff that we don't think about has to factored in to developin g an AI.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Nightfox on Sat Aug 8 00:41:54 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Wed Aug 05 2020 02:24 pm

    I think Honda is still working on the Asimo. I've seen videos of some of Boston Dynamics stuff too. Interesting and weird stuff.

    I hadn't bothered much with the robotics scene for years but it looks like the engineers are pushing things forward by leaps and bounds, it'll be interesting whenver they combine these things with machine learning.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Andeddu on Sat Aug 8 09:02:00 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Sat Aug 08 2020 12:41 am

    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Wed Aug 05 2020 02:24 pm

    I think Honda is still working on the Asimo. I've seen videos of some of Boston Dynamics stuff too. Interesting and weird stuff.

    I hadn't bothered much with the robotics scene for years but it looks like t engineers are pushing things forward by leaps and bounds, it'll be interesti whenver they combine these things with machine learning.


    Asimo is more or less a puppet compared to Boston Dynamics products. It required an operator which was more like like an experienced puppeteer for it to do things such as walk up or down stairs. Ford Motor Company has a robot similar to the Boston Dynamics offerings that folds up when not in use, kind
    of like the battle Droids in Phantom Menace, and it is designed to ride in the
    back of a delivery truck. I can imagine the truck being automated, and through GPS and QRF bar codes it would know which packages to deliver to each home. Upon delivery it would send a text or email, then jump back into it's self-driving truck and head to the next customer.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Moondog on Sat Aug 8 22:52:24 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Moondog to Andeddu on Thu Aug 06 2020 01:28 pm

    The issue has been overcome, but it's something that doesn't immediately come to mind when developing a driving program. It's like the early AI programs trying to understand written text. Before reading, an basic understanding of the universe must occur. When Abraham Lincold went to Springfield, IL, so
    did his feet. Stuff that we don't think about has to factored in to developin g an AI.

    I think engineers are able to see the problems that need to be overcome in any scenario for an AI through trial and error. We have what's known as machine learning now where a machine will learn and improve from its own experience. I have seen examples of four legged machines losing a leg and, though self discovery, coming up with the optimal method of travelling on three legs without additional programming.

    This simultaneously evokes feelings of both hope and terror.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Moondog on Sun Aug 9 01:27:26 2020
    Re: Re: 5G
    By: Moondog to Andeddu on Sat Aug 08 2020 09:02 am

    Asimo is more or less a puppet compared to Boston Dynamics products. It required an operator which was more like like an experienced puppeteer for it to do things such as walk up or down stairs. Ford Motor Company has a robot similar to the Boston Dynamics offerings that folds up when not in use, kind
    of like the battle Droids in Phantom Menace, and it is designed to ride in the
    back of a delivery truck. I can imagine the truck being automated, and through GPS and QRF bar codes it would know which packages to deliver to each home. Upon delivery it would send a text or email, then jump back into it's self-driving truck and head to the next customer.

    I didn't know about Ford's own droid. I think it's a fairly rudimentary concept at the minute but given another 5-10 years to mature, I could definitely see self driving vehicles coupled with droids carrying out delivery runs. I can also see AI drones being used to deliver smaller parkages in populated cities.

    What a time to be alive... :P

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