• Re: lossy or FLAC or CD

    From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Thu Aug 6 20:56:00 2020
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Tuesday 04.08.20 - 01:05, nightfox wrote to Ogg:

    Re: Re: lossy or FLAC or CD
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Aug 03 2020 10:17 pm

    Today, depending on the recording, I can't tell much diff between
    192Kbps and 320Kbps versions when listening to them direct with
    modest speakers. But there is still a noticeable difference after
    they have been recorded onto CD.

    I'm not sure how burning them to CD would make a difference in how
    they sound. I assume you mean burn them as an audio CD?

    Yes, I was burning to AUDIO CD. At the time, I did not have the option to play MP3 version direct from USB or a device for the home hi-fi or the
    car.


    Whether you're playing the MP3s or burning them as an audio CD, either
    way, the PC would have to decompress the MP3, and either way, I'd
    think the data would be the same whether you're playing the MP3
    directly or burning its audio to a CD. I'd think the CD should sound
    the same as the MP3 (but not any better, naturally).

    Maybe the differences wouldn't be too noticeable on a cheap portable CD player. But the differences are glaring on a hi-fi system with floor speakers.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vk3jed on Thu Aug 13 01:22:00 2020
    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** On Monday 03.08.20 - 06:05, vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    Yes, for a hifi system, you want PCM or lossless compression like
    FLAC. I'm getting more sensitive to compression artifacts as time
    goes by too. MP3 sounds "OK", but it's nothing like lossless.

    That's funny. The sensitivity is supposed to diminish with age. It's like you're aging in reverse! LOL


    The backstory how mp3 was first developed and how (and why) it got into Og>> the hands of the masses is an interesting story.

    Now that I would be interested in! :)

    You can read a fairly long excerpt (Introduction and Chapter 1) here.

    https://www.edelweiss.plus/?sku=0143109340&g=4400

    The amazon version of Look-Inside is a bit longer into Chapter 2.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Thu Aug 13 20:14:00 2020
    On 08-13-20 01:22, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, for a hifi system, you want PCM or lossless compression like
    FLAC. I'm getting more sensitive to compression artifacts as time
    goes by too. MP3 sounds "OK", but it's nothing like lossless.

    That's funny. The sensitivity is supposed to diminish with age. It's
    like you're aging in reverse! LOL

    Haha, when one has a brain that accumulates data in a statistical way and refines the stats continuously, strange things happen, especially when it's been running for over 62 years! :D


    The backstory how mp3 was first developed and how (and why) it got into
    the hands of the masses is an interesting story.

    Now that I would be interested in! :)

    You can read a fairly long excerpt (Introduction and Chapter 1) here.

    https://www.edelweiss.plus/?sku=0143109340&g=4400

    I'll check it out. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Fri Aug 14 13:52:00 2020
    On 08-13-20 20:14, Vk3jed wrote to Ogg <=-

    Haha, when one has a brain that accumulates data in a statistical way
    and refines the stats continuously, strange things happen, especially
    when it's been running for over 62 years! :D

    Arrrgh typos - 52, not 62. :D


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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Fri Aug 14 00:25:00 2020
    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** On Thursday 13.08.20 - 23:52, vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    Haha, when one has a brain that accumulates data in a statistical way
    and refines the stats continuously, strange things happen, especially
    when it's been running for over 62 years! :D

    Arrrgh typos - 52, not 62. :D

    Ya.. I wondered about that. Or.. you decided to age 10 years in a few weeks. LOL

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Fri Aug 14 18:59:00 2020
    On 08-14-20 00:25, Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Arrrgh typos - 52, not 62. :D

    Ya.. I wondered about that. Or.. you decided to age 10 years in a few weeks. LOL

    It seems only my fingers have middle age spread. :D

    And are you replying via NNTP? I noticed your replay was address to "All". :)


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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 14 21:12:00 2020
    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** On Friday 14.08.20 - 04:59, vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    On 08-14-20 00:25, Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Arrrgh typos - 52, not 62. :D

    Ya.. I wondered about that. Or.. you decided to age 10 years in a few Og>> weeks. LOL

    It seems only my fingers have middle age spread. :D

    And are you replying via NNTP? I noticed your replay was address to "All". :)


    I am accessing dovenet via nntp, yes.

    I am not sure what triggered the "to All". Usually, that only happens
    when I create a brand new message. Does this one appear normal?

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 14 21:30:00 2020
    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** On Thursday 13.08.20 - 06:14, vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    The backstory how mp3 was first developed and how (and why) it got into Og>>> the hands of the masses is an interesting story.

    Now that I would be interested in! :)

    You can read a fairly long excerpt (Introduction and Chapter 1) here.

    https://www.edelweiss.plus/?sku=0143109340&g=4400

    I'll check it out. :)

    I liked the way the book interweaved between the pirate's POV, the researcher's POV, and the recording industry's POV. It practically read
    like a suspense story how the actions of one group affected the other.

    Chime in with your thoughts after you get a chance to read the whole
    story.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Fri Aug 14 21:46:57 2020
    Re: Re: lossy or FLAC or CD
    By: Ogg to Vk3jed on Fri Aug 14 2020 09:12 pm

    And are you replying via NNTP? I noticed your replay was address
    to "All". :)

    I am accessing dovenet via nntp, yes.

    I am not sure what triggered the "to All". Usually, that only happens when I create a brand new message. Does this one appear normal?

    I've noticed most of your messages are addressed to "All".. I've seen some of your messages written in reply to something I said, but addressed to "All", so they didn't come up in my new-to-me scan.

    Nightfox

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  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to Ogg on Sat Aug 15 11:46:00 2020
    On 08-14-20 21:12, Ogg mumbled to Vk3jed about Re: lossy or FLAC or CD.

    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** On Friday 14.08.20 - 04:59, vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    On 08-14-20 00:25, Ogg wrote to All <=-

    I am not sure what triggered the "to All". Usually, that only
    happens when I create a brand new message. Does this one appear
    normal?


    Yes, it does.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Sun Aug 16 19:32:00 2020
    On 08-14-20 21:12, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    And are you replying via NNTP? I noticed your replay was address to "All". :)


    I am accessing dovenet via nntp, yes.

    Ahh, OK

    I am not sure what triggered the "to All". Usually, that only happens when I create a brand new message. Does this one appear normal?

    Yeah this one's fine. The attribution mart of the NNTP server must have gone screwy.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Sun Aug 16 19:33:00 2020
    On 08-14-20 21:30, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I liked the way the book interweaved between the pirate's POV, the researcher's POV, and the recording industry's POV. It practically
    read like a suspense story how the actions of one group affected the other.

    Chime in with your thoughts after you get a chance to read the whole story.

    Will do, it is a hard book to put down. :)


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