• where am i????

    From Skullzofflam@VERT/CRAZYW to All on Sat Jan 30 15:29:35 2021
    where am i???????

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Skullzofflam on Sun Jan 31 12:55:58 2021
    Re: where am i????
    By: Skullzofflam to All on Sat Jan 30 2021 03:29 pm

    where am i???????

    You're in the underbelly of the beast.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Skullzofflam on Sun Jan 31 10:32:00 2021
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    where am i???????

    Here. Not there.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Skullzofflam on Mon Feb 1 14:46:40 2021
    Re: where am i????
    By: Skullzofflam to All on Sat Jan 30 2021 03:29 pm

    where am i???????

    Me too. ???? WTF??

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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to HusTler on Tue Feb 2 09:00:55 2021
    Re: where am i????
    By: Skullzofflam to All on Sat Jan 30 2021 03:29 pm

    where am i???????

    Me too. ???? WTF??

    I checked & you're both "There."

    To provide you some idea of scale, I'm "Here."

    Happy to help. . .
    Your friend,

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Cyberpope on Wed Feb 3 07:37:01 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to HusTler on Tue Feb 02 2021 09:00 am

    Re: where am i????
    By: Skullzofflam to All on Sat Jan 30 2021 03:29 pm

    where am i???????

    Me too. ???? WTF??

    I checked & you're both "There."

    To provide you some idea of scale, I'm "Here."

    Happy to help. . .
    Your friend,
    ShazPot

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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to HusTler on Wed Feb 10 08:44:33 2021
    ShazPot

    Why Shazpot?

    ... An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last.

    I call them rats.

    I don't believre in gender chauvenism, nor ethnic, but I expect people to be loyal to their primary group(nation, usually) & to work towards the success of all as able.

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Cyberpope on Thu Feb 11 06:21:00 2021
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    ShazPot

    Why Shazpot?

    ... An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last.

    I call them rats.

    I don't believre in gender chauvenism, nor ethnic, but I expect people
    to be loyal to their primary group(nation, usually) & to work towards
    the success of all as able.

    Your friend,

    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above their own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a bad characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Thu Feb 11 08:17:38 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Cyberpope on Thu Feb 11 2021 06:21 am

    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above their own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a bad characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    While I support my country, I also think it's important to support the prosperity of everyone around the world.

    I've also wondered about this if I were to marry someone who is originally from another country, and then move there with them. I'd miss my home, but I'd probably want to support the country I'm living in as well.

    Nightfox

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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Boraxman on Thu Feb 11 08:40:42 2021
    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above their own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a bad characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    & downright dangerous to the many. :(

    The huma race has learned, through trial & error, & many deaths, what's needed to ensure survival & efficacy of the species. Those who disregard the lessons potentially endanger us all, like the attackers at the US Capitol endangered their larger group(USA)

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 14:09:26 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Feb 11 2021 08:17 am

    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Cyberpope on Thu Feb 11 2021 06:21 am

    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above th own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a ba characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    While I support my country, I also think it's important to support the prosperity of everyone around the world.

    I've also wondered about this if I were to marry someone who is originally f another country, and then move there with them. I'd miss my home, but I'd probably want to support the country I'm living in as well.

    Nightfox


    You guys are overthinking it.

    One has to be loyal to the ones that are loyal to you.

    If you make a living working for French customers and the only thing you get from your country's society is crap, you may as well send your country to hell.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Thu Feb 11 13:35:14 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Feb 11 2021 08:17 am

    While I support my country, I also think it's important to support the prosperity of everyone around the world.

    I think it's every country's responsability to be independant and support their people, It's usually Government's or Religions that get us entangled in wars.
    I don't think the USA is obligated to support other countries, as humans we should all be for peace, I agree with you National pride is over rated, I don't think the people in charge in our government are any better than in most other countries, there are a few exceptions.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Fri Feb 12 02:36:00 2021
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    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Cyberpope on
    Thu Feb 11 2021 06:21 am

    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above their own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a bad characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    While I support my country, I also think it's important to support the prosperity of everyone around the world.

    I've also wondered about this if I were to marry someone who is
    originally from another country, and then move there with them. I'd
    miss my home, but I'd probably want to support the country I'm living
    in as well.

    The two goals aren't mutually exclusive, but I wonder whether white people still have the 19th century notion of "White Mans Burden" and feel it is their responsibility to life the rest of the world up.

    I think I could move to another country if I married someone, no problem. I feel more at home in some European cities than I do in the centre of my own city. The last time I was in the city centre, I felt like an outsider, being of European background myself. But its not me that has changed, its the city.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Cyberpope on Fri Feb 12 02:40:00 2021
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    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above their own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a bad characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    & downright dangerous to the many. :(

    The huma race has learned, through trial & error, & many deaths, what's needed to ensure survival & efficacy of the species. Those who
    disregard the lessons potentially endanger us all, like the attackers
    at the US Capitol endangered their larger group(USA)

    Your friend,

    Have we learned that? It seems we are now forgetting all the lessons we have learned from experience, and replacing that knowledge with whatever brainfarts are coming out of the corporate world, TED and critical theory/Political Correctness/Wokeism. That is to say, the cultural norms which encode centuries of trial and error are being thrown up to be replaced with those thought up by some 22 year old who lived a sheltered life and did gender studies and now works in HR.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Arelor on Fri Feb 12 02:41:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

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    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on
    Thu Feb 11 2021 08:17 am

    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Cyberpope on Thu Feb 11 2021 06:21 am

    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above th own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a ba characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    While I support my country, I also think it's important to support the prosperity of everyone around the world.

    I've also wondered about this if I were to marry someone who is originally f another country, and then move there with them. I'd miss my home, but I'd probably want to support the country I'm living in as well.

    Nightfox


    You guys are overthinking it.

    One has to be loyal to the ones that are loyal to you.

    If you make a living working for French customers and the only thing
    you get from your country's society is crap, you may as well send your country to hell.

    True, loyalty is a two way street.


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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 08:03:52 2021
    Cyberpope wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others above their own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it
    as
    a bad characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    & downright dangerous to the many. :(

    The huma race has learned, through trial & error, & many deaths,
    what's
    needed to ensure survival & efficacy of the species. Those who disregard the lessons potentially endanger us all, like the attackers at the US Capitol endangered their larger group(USA)

    Your friend,

    Have we learned that? It seems we are now forgetting all the lessons we have learned from experience, and replacing that knowledge with whatever brainfarts are coming out of the corporate world, TED and critical theory/Political Correctness/Wokeism. That is to say, the cultural norms which encode centuries of trial and error are being thrown up to be
    replaced
    with those thought up by some 22 year old who lived a sheltered life and
    did
    gender studies and now works in HR.

    I meant we know OF them (& we do) not necessarily that we understand the need to use them. :(

    The knowlee exists, but the majority's will does not.

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 08:06:54 2021
    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

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    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on
    Thu Feb 11 2021 08:17 am

    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Cyberpope on Thu Feb 11 2021 06:21 am

    I believe the same. I treat with great suspicion those who pride themselves on having no national loyalty, or in putting others
    above
    th own. They wear that attitude with a mark of pride, but I see it as a ba characteristic, one that that is socially pathological.

    While I support my country, I also think it's important to support the prosperity of everyone around the world.

    I've also wondered about this if I were to marry someone who is originally f another country, and then move there with them. I'd miss
    my
    home, but I'd probably want to support the country I'm living in as
    well.

    Nightfox


    You guys are overthinking it.

    One has to be loyal to the ones that are loyal to you.

    If you make a living working for French customers and the only thing you get from your country's society is crap, you may as well send
    your
    country to hell.

    True, loyalty is a two way street.

    For me, the default is loyalty, if my country does me wrong, I'm not going to betray my country, which would adversely affect the majority who did nothing
    to me, & I can't do that.

    If I had moved elsewhere, I'd be loyal to them, but not disloyal to Canada.

    If they & Canada went to war, I'd have to abstain & be a conscientious objector.

    Your friend,

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Cyberpope on Fri Feb 12 11:39:44 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 2021 08:06 am

    If they & Canada went to war, I'd have to abstain & be a conscientious objector.

    Without going into much detail, I was asked to relocate to Germany some years ago as part of a promotion / job opportunity. I considered giving up my US citizenship to claim German citizenship. There were some "gotchas" that involved my wife and children that caused me additional concerns.

    The one thing that I've considered is claiming Swiss Citizenship. As my father was born there, I am able to claim citizenship, and maintain dual citizenship. Hmmm, thoughts.

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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 13:57:34 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Fri Feb 12 2021 02:36 am

    I think I could move to another country if I married someone, no problem. I feel more at home in some European cities than I do in the centre of my own city. The last time I was in the city centre, I felt like an outsider, being of European background myself. But its not me that has changed, its the city.

    This is hallarious. You obviously haven't been to many European cities. The world is a melting pot my friend. You're not ubermenschlich.

    Bob Roberts


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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Dream Master on Fri Feb 12 14:03:04 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Dream Master to Cyberpope on Fri Feb 12 2021 11:39 am

    The one thing that I've considered is claiming Swiss Citizenship. As my father was born there, I am able to claim citizenship, and maintain dual citizenship. Hmmm, thoughts.

    Do it. It won't hurt, and it give you tons of options.

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the ketchup packets.

    But it is amazing landscape, beautiful cities.

    Bob Roberts

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dream Master on Fri Feb 12 19:28:00 2021
    Dream Master wrote to Cyberpope <=-

    Without going into much detail, I was asked to relocate to
    Germany some years ago as part of a promotion / job opportunity.
    I considered giving up my US citizenship to claim German
    citizenship. There were some "gotchas" that involved my wife and
    children that caused me additional concerns.

    The one thing that I've considered is claiming Swiss Citizenship.
    As my father was born there, I am able to claim citizenship, and
    maintain dual citizenship. Hmmm, thoughts.

    I recommend (for your own happiness, of course) that you do that. Renounce the

    terrible USA, and change your citizenship (and residence) to Switzerland. It's

    a utopian society where everything is free, and chocolate syrup comes out of the fire hydrants. I think you'd fit in fine there. Bon voyage!!!



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 19:32:00 2021
    Bob Roberts wrote to Dream Master <=-

    The one thing that I've considered is claiming Swiss Citizenship. As my father was born there, I am able to claim citizenship, and maintain dual citizenship. Hmmm, thoughts.

    Do it. It won't hurt, and it give you tons of options.

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different
    even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and
    Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more
    for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard
    resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around
    $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the
    ketchup packets.

    But, but, but.... EVERYTHING ELSE IS FREE!!! Healthcare, education, security and happiness. Having to pay extra for a Big Mac seems like a small price to pay for the PRIVILEGE of living in Euro-Commie-Utopia!!!



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 20:13:15 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Bob Roberts to Dream Master on Fri Feb 12 2021 02:03 pm

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the ketchup packets.

    But it is amazing landscape, beautiful cities.

    I visited Germany for a few weeks in 1998, and while there, we visited Switzerland for a few days. We stayed at a hostel in Vevey and also visited Zurich, Interlaken, Bern, and Lucerne. I thought it was a beautiful place. I don't remember what food cost there though.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Fri Feb 12 20:14:59 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Gamgee to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 2021 07:32 pm

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different
    even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and
    Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more
    for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard
    resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around
    $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the
    ketchup packets.

    But, but, but.... EVERYTHING ELSE IS FREE!!! Healthcare, education, security and happiness. Having to pay extra for a Big Mac seems like a small price to pay for the PRIVILEGE of living in Euro-Commie-Utopia!!!

    Do you say that from experience? Have you lived in Switzerland?

    Nightfox

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 23:01:01 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Bob Roberts to Dream Master on Fri Feb 12 2021 02:03 pm

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the ketchup packets.

    Whenever I'd go to Germany on business, I'd be requested to bring bottles of ketchup. I've never been to Switzerland but am aware of their prices. Germany can be pretty bad too depending on where you go.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 19:58:00 2021
    Hello Bob Roberts!

    ** On Friday 12.02.21 - 14:03, Bob Roberts wrote to Dream Master:

    ...I've never paid more for food then I have in
    Switzerland. ... But it is amazing landscape, beautiful
    cities.

    There you go.. you're paying for the ambiance. :D


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat Feb 13 07:15:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different
    even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and
    Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more
    for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard
    resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around
    $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the
    ketchup packets.

    But, but, but.... EVERYTHING ELSE IS FREE!!! Healthcare, education, security and happiness. Having to pay extra for a Big Mac seems like a small price to pay for the PRIVILEGE of living in Euro-Commie-Utopia!!!

    Do you say that from experience? Have you lived in Switzerland?

    Ummmmmm..... it was a joke. I think you missed the point.

    Although perhaps I thought I was in the DEBATE echo...



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Bob Roberts on Sat Feb 13 22:53:01 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Bob Roberts to Boraxman on Fri Feb 12 2021 01:57 pm

    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Fri Feb 12 2021 02:36 am

    I think I could move to another country if I married someone, no proble I feel more at home in some European cities than I do in the centre of own city. The last time I was in the city centre, I felt like an outsid being of European background myself. But its not me that has changed, i the city.

    This is hallarious. You obviously haven't been to many European cities. Th world is a melting pot my friend. You're not ubermenschlich.

    Bob Roberts


    Bob


    I have been to many, many cities. That is why I said *some*. The world is
    not a melting pot. You won't find much diversity in Japan, China, Nigeria. "Diversity" is specifically a Western thing.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dream Master on Sat Feb 13 07:20:00 2021
    Dream Master wrote to Cyberpope <=-

    The one thing that I've considered is claiming Swiss Citizenship. As
    my father was born there, I am able to claim citizenship, and maintain dual citizenship. Hmmm, thoughts.

    My wife is of British citizenship, and watching a UK real estate show
    thought about buying a cottage in a little village when we retire - health care and subsidized university tuition would make a big difference, as my youngest will be entering college when I retire!

    She's been here since her 20s, and has family and friends over there -it's about time for her to move back.

    <fingers crossed> if the real estate market holds up here, that is.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dream Master on Sat Feb 13 07:22:00 2021
    Dream Master wrote to Bob Roberts <=-

    Whenever I'd go to Germany on business, I'd be requested to bring
    bottles of ketchup. I've never been to Switzerland but am aware of
    their prices. Germany can be pretty bad too depending on where you go.

    I worked at a company that had offices in London, Paris, Hamburg San
    Francisco and Rome - and we met at least 3 times a year in each office. It
    was nice traveling on an expense account, but I have no idea how much things cost.

    Except for going to Chelsea on the last day of my last trip, going to a
    Johnny Rockets 50s nostaglia burger joint and paying the equivalent of $38
    for a milk shake, cheeseburger and fries. Ran into David Bowie in the
    office, and Sting on the street in Chelsea that last day, though, so there's that.




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Sat Feb 13 11:07:00 2021
    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different
    even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and
    Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more
    for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard
    resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around
    $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the
    ketchup packets.

    But, but, but.... EVERYTHING ELSE IS FREE!!! Healthcare, education, security and happiness. Having to pay extra for a Big Mac seems like a small price to pay for the PRIVILEGE of living in Euro-Commie-Utopia!!!

    Thanks. You nearly made me spit my Ski all over my keyboard. :) :D


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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Dream Master on Sat Feb 13 11:01:59 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Dream Master to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 2021 11:01 pm

    Whenever I'd go to Germany on business, I'd be requested to bring bottles of ketchup. I've never been to Switzerland but am aware of their prices. Germany can be pretty bad too depending on where you go.

    When we stayed in Switzerland, we would gorge on the hotel-provided breakfast because the other meals while out and about were so expensive. I'm afraid we didn't make a very good impression on the wait staff, ordering so many coffee refills and eating all the crossants (they had to go across the street to the bakery and get more).

    I don't remember an ketchup related issues in Germany. The food there seemed reasonable for Europe. Now I want a soft pretzel and beer.

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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Ogg on Sat Feb 13 11:09:13 2021
    Re: where am i????
    By: Ogg to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 2021 07:58 pm

    ...I've never paid more for food then I have in
    Switzerland. ... But it is amazing landscape, beautiful
    cities.

    There you go.. you're paying for the ambiance. :D

    We took the train from Salzburg to Zurich. Holyshit, it was amazing. 6-hour trip I think. But so beautiful. Then we drove from Zurich to Zermatt. The tunnels get longer and longer as you get closer to the Alps. The know how to do tunnels there.

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  • From Warpslide@VERT/NRBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Feb 13 18:09:00 2021
    On 13 Feb 2021, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    My wife is of British citizenship, and watching a UK real estate show thought about buying a cottage in a little village when we retire - health care and subsidized university tuition would make a big difference, as my youngest will be entering college when I retire!

    She's been here since her 20s, and has family and friends over there -it's about time for her to move back.

    <fingers crossed> if the real estate market holds up here, that is.

    When I was younger I was looking into colleges in various areas, I then remembered that 3 of 4 of my great-grandparents were all from the UK so looked into whether I could get citizenship there or if I'd have to go on a student visa. Long story short, my grandparents would qualify for citizenship even though they were born here in Canada and have never set foot in the UK.

    *If* one of them were to go through the process, then I could qualify but I wasn't about to have them go through that hassle & in the end it didn't matter as I just continued school in Canada. But it was an interesting read anyway about the commonwealth, British subjects & how there was no such thing as a Canadian citizen until January 1947.

    Maybe if this CANZUK thing takes off the result would be the same.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sat Feb 13 20:08:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    I've been to Zurich and Geneva. Amazing cities and so different
    even though they're both Swiss. Zurich is basically German, and
    Geneva is so worldly. So expensive thou! I've never paid more
    for food then I have in Switzerland. Good food, but a standard resturant plate of chicken breast, veggies and starch was around
    $38. A McDonalds meal for 2 was $30. And they charge for the
    ketchup packets.

    But, but, but.... EVERYTHING ELSE IS FREE!!! Healthcare, education,
    security
    and happiness. Having to pay extra for a Big Mac seems like a small price
    to
    pay for the PRIVILEGE of living in Euro-Commie-Utopia!!!

    Thanks. You nearly made me spit my Ski all over my keyboard. :)
    :D

    Hehe! Alright, well I'll keep trying. :-)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Sat Feb 13 10:42:34 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Dream Master to Bob Roberts on Fri Feb 12 2021 11:01 pm

    Whenever I'd go to Germany on business, I'd be requested to bring bottles of ketchup. I've never been to Switzerland but am aware of their prices. Germany can be pretty bad too depending on where you go.

    When I visited Germany in 1998, I was looking to buy some bottled water and it seemed all the stores in the area had carbonated water. When we visited Switzerland for a few days, we were excited to find a place selling non-carbonated bottled water.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Bob Roberts on Mon Feb 15 10:19:00 2021
    Bob Roberts wrote to Ogg <=-

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    Re: where am i????
    By: Ogg to Bob Roberts on
    Fri Feb 12 2021 07:58 pm

    ...I've never paid more for food then I have in
    Switzerland. ... But it is amazing landscape, beautiful
    cities.

    There you go.. you're paying for the ambiance. :D

    We took the train from Salzburg to Zurich. Holyshit, it was amazing. 6-hour trip I think. But so beautiful. Then we drove from Zurich to Zermatt. The tunnels get longer and longer as you get closer to the
    Alps. The know how to do tunnels there.

    I have very fond memories of train trips in Europe. That region around Salzburg is perhaps one of my favourite areas in the world.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Bob Roberts on Sun Feb 14 09:33:00 2021
    Bob Roberts wrote to Dream Master <=-


    When we stayed in Switzerland, we would gorge on the hotel-provided breakfast because the other meals while out and about were so
    expensive. I'm afraid we didn't make a very good impression on the
    wait staff, ordering so many coffee refills and eating all the
    crossants (they had to go across the street to the bakery and get
    more).

    In London, I stayed at the Chelsea Village hotel, right by the football
    field; in fact, we could watch games from some of the rooms.

    A "Full English" was 19 pounds, and service was slow. Luckily, most of the people in the meeting we were late for were there, so we started 30 minutes late.

    The next day, we went to a little Brazilian cafe on the way to the tube stop and had wonderful eggs, pastries and coffees for a couple of quid. We called everyone to make printouts and come to the cafe instead of the office, met there, paid the staff 40 pounds (2 hotel breakfasts) and they gave us a
    table in the back half of the cafe, brought us coffee, pastries and
    sandwiches throughout the day for 6 people and were wonderfully friendly and accomodating. A wonderful alternative to sitting in a bleak conference room.


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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Dream Master on Tue Feb 16 08:12:33 2021
    Without going into much detail, I was asked to relocate to Germany some years ago as part of a promotion / job opportunity. I considered giving up my US citizenship to claim German citizenship. There were some "gotchas" that involved my wife and children that caused me additional concerns.

    The one thing that I've considered is claiming Swiss Citizenship. As my father was born there, I am able to claim citizenship, and maintain dual citizenship. Hmmm, thoughts.

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only for new citizens?

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Cyberpope on Wed Feb 17 08:10:34 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Dream Master on Tue Feb 16 2021 08:12 am

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only for new citizens?

    I think we're allowed to have dual citizenship. Maybe only with certain countries. Years ago, I remember reading that dual citizenship with the US and Canada was possible.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Cyberpope on Wed Feb 17 08:30:57 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Dream Master on Tue Feb 16 2021 08:12 am

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only for new citizens?

    The United States only recognizes single citizenship, not dual. The advantage of having Swiss citizenship is the additional countries I may travel to and the ability to live in Switzerland if I ever choose.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Wed Feb 17 12:31:46 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Dream Master to Cyberpope on Wed Feb 17 2021 08:30 am

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only
    for new citizens?

    The United States only recognizes single citizenship, not dual. The

    I'm not sure that's true. As far as I can tell, the US does allow dual citizenship:
    https://www.boundless.com/immigration-resources/dual-citizenship/ https://bit.ly/2NwiZVo

    From the 2nd link:
    "U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship. However, persons who acquire a foreign nationality after age 18 by applying for it may relinquish their U.S. nationality if they wish to do so."

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Nightfox on Wed Feb 17 13:06:46 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Nightfox to Cyberpope on Wed Feb 17 2021 08:10 am

    I think we're allowed to have dual citizenship. Maybe only with certain countries. Years ago, I remember reading that dual citizenship with the US and Canada was possible.

    I stand corrected. Here's the specific statement from the US Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs:

    U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship. However, persons who acquire a foreign nationality after age 18 by applying for it may relinquish their U.S. nationality if they wish to do so. In order to relinquish U.S. nationality by virtue of naturalization as a citizen of a foreign state, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Intent may be shown by the person by the person's statements and conduct.

    Dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, and either country has the right to enforce its laws. It is important to note the problems attendant to dual nationality. Claims of other countries upon U.S. dual-nationals often place them in situations where their obligations to one country are in conflict with the laws of the other. In addition, their dual nationality may hamper efforts of the U.S. Government to provide consular protection to them when they are abroad, especially when they are in the country of their second nationality.

    (and my favorite...)

    U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport to travel to or from a country other than the United States is not inconsistent with U.S. law.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Wed Feb 17 17:38:56 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Nightfox to Cyberpope on Wed Feb 17 2021 08:10 am

    By: Cyberpope to Dream Master on Tue Feb 16 2021 08:12 am

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only for new citizens?

    usa doesnt care about other citizenships. i'm pretty sure steve-o has 3-4 citizenships
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Dream Master on Wed Feb 17 20:54:00 2021
    Hello Dream Master!

    ** On Wednesday 17.02.21 - 13:06, Dream Master wrote to Nightfox:

    (and my favorite...)

    U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S.
    passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual
    nationals may also be required by the foreign country to
    use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of
    the foreign passport to travel to or from a country other
    than the United States is not inconsistent with U.S. law.

    Yep.. more paperwork for the person who is travelling. Is it
    worth the hassle of having to carry two passports all the time?


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  • From matjam@VERT/STUPID to Dream Master on Thu Feb 18 16:54:19 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Wed Feb 17 2021 01:06 pm

    U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport to travel to or from a country other than the United States is not inconsistent with U.S. law.

    I'm an Australian/British dual citizan living in the US. I've applied for a green card and and will probably end up with 3 citizenships at some point as I'm not intending to leave the US unless it devolves into civil war between the right wing extremists and the left wing extremists. Or unless I get a life threatening condition that needs extensive care, then I'll fuck off back to Australia and my national healthcare system, thank you very much.

    I do the above; travel with all my passports and use the one for the country I am entering, as that's generally required by each country.

    Some implications; if I leave the USA after getting US citizenship, I will still need to file taxes. I don't need to do that for the UK or Australia right now; there's no requirement for me to do that when living abroad from those countries (though I'm racking up fines for not voting/filing, which will all get dismissed if/when I move back).

    I lived in Japan for a while and have a daughter with a Japanese national. They live in Australia; my daughter has dual citizenship for now but when she turns 18 she'll have to tell the Japanese government which one she's keeping. There's a workaround there though that is commonly used; people lie and keep both. :-)

    The benefits of having multiple citizenships is pretty clear, though with Brexit my British passport reduced in value quite a bit.

    C'est la vie.

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Ogg on Thu Feb 18 18:36:51 2021
    Re: where am i????
    By: Ogg to Dream Master on Wed Feb 17 2021 08:54 pm

    Yep.. more paperwork for the person who is travelling. Is it
    worth the hassle of having to carry two passports all the time?

    I filled a passport some years ago. The thought of carrying a second passport does not sound like a great idea. When border controls would look through my passport to find an empty page, they couldn't, would laugh, and find a tiny blank section to stamp. I would keep a small Post-It on the page in the event I got stopped. Never got stopped.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to matjam on Fri Feb 19 06:38:00 2021
    matjam wrote to Dream Master <=-

    I'm an Australian/British dual citizan living in the US. I've applied
    for a green card and and will probably end up with 3 citizenships at
    some point as I'm not intending to leave the US unless it devolves into civil war between the right wing extremists and the left wing
    extremists. Or unless I get a life threatening condition that needs extensive care, then I'll fuck off back to Australia and my national healthcare system, thank you very much.

    My wife is a British citizen, and for the same reasons above, we're strongly considering retiring to the English countryside - find a little village, buy
    a cheap old cottage, and pretend like it's last century.


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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Nightfox on Fri Feb 19 09:12:42 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Dream Master on Tue Feb 16 2021 08:12 am

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only for new citizens?

    I think we're allowed to have dual citizenship. Maybe only with certain countries. Years ago, I remember reading that dual citizenship with the
    US
    and Canada was possible.

    I know there was open immigration between the Commonwealth countries & the
    USA was signed into that agreement as a non-Commonwealth(Queen) but I believe after 9/11(or previously) they exited.

    Now the immigratoin process may be easier between two Commonewealth members (e.g. Aus & Canada), but I believe one still needs to go through the regular aplication/approval process. I looked into going to NZ 20 years ago, but I failed the points assessment. I believe being in Canada gave me some extra pointssd, but not enough to overcome my being single, disabled, & broke. So
    I sta here, freezing(subjective opinion, as <25C is below my comfort zone) 8 months a year

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Dream Master on Fri Feb 19 09:14:05 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Dream Master on Tue Feb 16 2021 08:12 am

    Doesn't USA require you to only have one citizenship? Or is that only for new citizens?

    The United States only recognizes single citizenship, not dual. The advantage of having Swiss citizenship is the additional countries I may travel to and the ability to live in Switzerland if I ever choose.

    Right. That's an advantage. I had a Japanese friend who retained her Japanese passport & citizenship, as she had decided she would go there to die with family, when the time came. Caused trouble crossing in & out of the USA, though.

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Sprite@VERT/TINTETBB to matjam on Fri Feb 19 12:07:47 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: matjam to Dream Master on Thu Feb 18 2021 16:54:19

    The benefits of having multiple citizenships is pretty clear, though with Brexit my British passport reduced in value quite a bit.

    As someone who has seriously considered becoming a US expat, has had to deal with fighting for the citizenship of a 3rd country US national born abroad, and other crapola along the same lines when I was still internationally mobile, I would just like you to know that I am sweating beads of envy here.
    If you leave the US again, like when that civil war that you mentioned finally breaks out, let me know if you feel like sponsoring somebody to a better locale. Damn economic hardship has been the only thing that's kept me bound in this country. :|

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Cyberpope on Fri Feb 19 14:42:31 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Nightfox on Fri Feb 19 2021 09:12 am

    Now the immigratoin process may be easier between two Commonewealth members (e.g. Aus & Canada), but I believe one still needs to go through the regular aplication/approval process. I looked into going to NZ 20 years ago, but I failed the points assessment. I believe being in Canada gave me some extra pointssd, but not enough to overcome my being single, disabled, & broke. So I sta here, freezing(subjective opinion, as <25C is below my comfort zone) 8 months a year

    I feel like 25C is getting a bit warm for me. I tend to be comfortable around 20-22C. :P

    Nightfox

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  • From matjam@VERT/STUPID to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 19 21:12:11 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to matjam on Fri Feb 19 2021 06:38 am

    My wife is a British citizen, and for the same reasons above, we're strongly considering retiring to the English countryside - find a little village, buy a cheap old cottage, and pretend like it's last century.

    Oh, that sounds grand.

    Further north you go, the better, IMHO.

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  • From matjam@VERT/STUPID to Sprite on Fri Feb 19 21:17:31 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Sprite to matjam on Fri Feb 19 2021 12:07 pm

    If you leave the US again, like when that civil war that you mentioned finally breaks out, let me know if you feel like sponsoring somebody to a better locale. Damn economic hardship has been the only thing that's kept me bound in this country. :|

    If you work in any kind of profession and have a 4 year degree, it's actually not super hard to apply for and get a work visa in Australia - which you can then turn into residency after some time. I think experience in your field also counts towards the points system they use there. There's certain professions, like nurses, that are in demand, and basically get immediately approved.

    Unfortunately, I can't sponsor people lol. Unless we got married. You'd have to buy me and the wife dinner, first, though.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Sprite on Sat Feb 20 07:08:00 2021
    Sprite wrote to matjam <=-

    As someone who has seriously considered becoming a US expat,
    has had to deal with fighting for the citizenship of a 3rd
    country US national born abroad, and other crapola along the same
    lines when I was still internationally mobile, I would just like
    you to know that I am sweating beads of envy here.
    If you leave the US again, like when that civil war that you
    mentioned finally breaks out, let me know if you feel like
    sponsoring somebody to a better locale. Damn economic hardship
    has been the only thing that's kept me bound in this country. :|

    Sounds like you should leave and go to the utopia known as Venezuela.

    Good riddance to bad trash.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Sat Feb 20 07:47:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Cyberpope <=-

    I feel like 25C is getting a bit warm for me. I tend to be comfortable around 20-22C. :P

    I could go colder, living on the California coast is training for living on the coast in northern Europe somewhere.


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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Gamgee on Sat Feb 20 17:39:35 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Gamgee to Sprite on Sat Feb 20 2021 07:08 am

    Sprite wrote to matjam <=-

    As someone who has seriously considered becoming a US expat,
    has had to deal with fighting for the citizenship of a 3rd
    country US national born abroad, and other crapola along the same
    lines when I was still internationally mobile, I would just like
    you to know that I am sweating beads of envy here.
    If you leave the US again, like when that civil war that you mentioned finally breaks out, let me know if you feel like
    sponsoring somebody to a better locale. Damn economic hardship
    has been the only thing that's kept me bound in this country. :|

    Sounds like you should leave and go to the utopia known as Venezuela.

    Good riddance to bad trash.

    Maybe he could try Communist Utah from the Dark Cyberpunk Future of 2020 as immagined in the book "Home of the Brave" as part of the Cyberpunk 2020 series.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Sat Feb 20 12:00:00 2021
    Nightfox wrote to Cyberpope <=-

    @MSGID: <60303ED7.57974.dove_dove-gen@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
    @REPLY: <602FF18A.4446.dove-general@trmb.synchro.net>
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Nightfox on
    Fri Feb 19 2021 09:12 am

    Now the immigratoin process may be easier between two Commonewealth members (e.g. Aus & Canada), but I believe one still needs to go through the regular aplication/approval process. I looked into going to NZ 20 years ago, but I failed the points assessment. I believe being in Canada gave me some extra pointssd, but not enough to overcome my being single, disabled, & broke. So I sta here, freezing(subjective opinion, as <25C is below my comfort zone) 8 months a year

    I feel like 25C is getting a bit warm for me. I tend to be comfortable around 20-22C. :P


    I remember some relatives come from England to Australia, and when we
    first met them, it was mid 20s. One of the younger ones said "Gee, I
    hope is not hot like this all the time in summer".

    I just had to laugh. Queenslanders call temperatures in the mid 20s
    "Jacket weather".



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Sat Feb 20 22:46:25 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Sat Feb 20 2021 12:00 pm

    I remember some relatives come from England to Australia, and when we first met them, it was mid 20s. One of the younger ones said "Gee, I
    hope is not hot like this all the time in summer".

    I just had to laugh. Queenslanders call temperatures in the mid 20s "Jacket weather".

    Try visiting the northern US or Canada in the winter and you'll see jacket weather.. ;)

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  • From Cyberpope@VERT/TRMB to Nightfox on Mon Feb 22 06:24:50 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Cyberpope to Nightfox on Fri Feb 19 2021 09:12 am

    Now the immigratoin process may be easier between two Commonewealth members (e.g. Aus & Canada), but I believe one still needs to go through the regular aplication/approval process. I looked into going to NZ 20 years ago, but I failed the points assessment. I believe being in Canada gave me some extra pointssd, but not enough to overcome my being single, disabled, & broke. So I sta here, freezing(subjective opinion, as <25C is below my comfort zone) 8 months a year

    I feel like 25C is getting a bit warm for me. I tend to be comfortable around 20-22C. :P

    I might be ableto BSAELY deal with thsat, depending on how bad winter was, but I prefer 25; my old bachelor pad had free heat & was 25C 24/7/365.

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Sprite@VERT/TINTETBB to matjam on Tue Feb 23 19:05:59 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: matjam to Sprite on Fri Feb 19 2021 21:17:31

    If you work in any kind of profession and have a 4 year degree, it's actuall not super hard to apply for and get a work visa in Australia - which you can then turn into residency after some time. I think experience in your field a counts towards the points system they use there. There's certain professions like nurses, that are in demand, and basically get immediately approved.

    Unfortunately, I can't sponsor people lol. Unless we got married. You'd have buy me and the wife dinner, first, though.

    Well hell, that's good to know. Thank you for the information. I guess when I was 'in the market' to make a move out of the country in order to try to keep my family together despite USCIS I was only looking at areas fairly close, relatively speaking. I certainly wasn't looking in other hemispheres...
    Very kind of you to consider me for sponsorship so far. *laugh*

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  • From Sprite@VERT/TINTETBB to Gamgee on Tue Feb 23 19:14:37 2021
    Re: Re: where am i????
    By: Gamgee to Sprite on Sat Feb 20 2021 07:08:00

    Sounds like you should leave and go to the utopia known as Venezuela.

    Good riddance to bad trash.

    Ah, the final argument of the closed minded...

    "If you don't like it, you can gyidddawht."

    A common technique used to divert attention from any debate about the current locale having any potential problems that could be addressed for improvement, instead focusing on blind patriotism handed down from different generations that were handling different circumstances.
    There's a reason South Park made fun of the ignorant types that fall back on that so much... How does it feel to be such a common caricature?

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