Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it
anti-vaxxers?
(For the record, I've been fully vaccinated since April)

I did take the vaccine, but we should still have the right to question
science. Science is about questioning.


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Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it
anti-vaxxers?
(For the record, I've been fully vaccinated since April)

I did take the vaccine, but we should still have the right to question science. Science is about questioning.

If you're not qualified in the particular field of science, then what
ever questioning you do is at best worthless, at worst dangerous.

The problem today is too many people are asserting their uneducated
opinions as fact, people believe it because either it agrees with their
own feelings and beliefs, or it's said by someone they trust.

I don't think calling people who are questioning the covid vaccine
anti-vaxxers or dumb and proud of it is helpful though, because it's a different kind of vaccine, it's new, and there's a lot of misinformation
out there.

Also there is a huge distrust of authority, especially when the guy you
voted against got in and you're already angry at that. So when it's
polititions promoting the vaccine, it's easy for many to distrust it and
look for data that fits their position.

Andrew

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 2021 03:29 pm

Also there is a huge distrust of authority, especially when the guy you voted against got in and you're already angry at that. So when it's polititions promoting the vaccine, it's easy for many to distrust it and look for data that fits their position.

I think it is unfair to imply it is a matter of distrusting the shots because they are being enforced for an administration you voted against. I know of a good bunch of people who voted for administrations that are deffinitively pro-vaccine and either distrust the vaccine or distrust the meassures proposed for enforcing the shots.

In fact I think the problem is how the shots are being enforced rather than the shots themselves. Not that I place much faith in these shots either.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 2021 03:29 pm

Also there is a huge distrust of authority, especially when the guy you voted against got in and you're already angry at that. So when it's polititions promoting the vaccine, it's easy for many to distrust it and look for data that fits their position.

i dont think that's why.

i think it's because we've been lied to multiple times and told everything under the sun. i maybe considered uneducated by people that love the vaccine, but god damn i sure am right about this whole situation more than vaccine promoters are.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Arelor to apam on Fri Oct 29 2021 02:54 am

Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 2021 03:29 pm

Also there is a huge distrust of authority, especially when the guy you voted against got in and you're already angry at that. So when it's polititions promoting the vaccine, it's easy for many to distrust it and look for data that fits their position.

I think it is unfair to imply it is a matter of distrusting the shots because they are being enforced for an administration you voted against. I

also the democrats did exactly the same thing with trump.
then when trump was out, they flip flopped.
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I think it is unfair to imply it is a matter of distrusting the shots because
they are being enforced for an administration you voted against. I
know of a
good bunch of people who voted for administrations that are
deffinitively
pro-vaccine and either distrust the vaccine or distrust the meassures proposed
for enforcing the shots.

That's true, but I don't think it's an either-or situation, I don't think
it's unfair to say that many people are anti-anything that is pushed by
the people they didn't want to win. I didn't say all people.

In fact I think the problem is how the shots are being enforced rather
than the
shots themselves. Not that I place much faith in these shots either.

I guess this varies from country to country. I don't know how they are
being enforced in your country, but in mine, they are not enforced.
However you are likely to lose a lot of privileges, possibly your job, by refusing to get a vaccine. Some might say, that is the same as enfocing
them, and maybe it is.

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i dont think that's why.

i think it's because we've been lied to multiple times and told
everything under the sun. i maybe considered uneducated by people
that love the vaccine, but god damn i sure am right about this whole situation more than vaccine promoters are.

lied to by who? I'm not from the USA so I don't know what you've been
told by your various governments. Also, how do you know you were lied to?
And that the information that is suggesting you were lied to is not a lie itself?

From what I understand the vaccine seems to work in that it will reduce
the effects of covid should you catch it and so reducing the pressure on hospital emergency rooms. I got the vaccine because I know that if I did
catch covid, I would most likely be very sick and hospitalized without it.

Maybe I still will, I haven't caught covid yet so I can't say - but I
probably will after our state opens up later this year.

As for your education, I assume many of the people who promote vaccines
are similarly educated and just as likely to be parroting misinformation
as those who are against it.

I think what it comes down to is the us vs them, left vs right mentality
that has become so prevelant the last 20 years or so, makes people dig
their heels in and refuse to change their mind when new information comes
to light.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 2021 03:29 pm

I did take the vaccine, but we should still have the right to question science. Science is about questioning.

The problem today is too many people are asserting their uneducated
opinions as fact, people believe it because either it agrees with their
own feelings and beliefs, or it's said by someone they trust.

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and everyone thinks the other ones stink.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 07:43 pm

I guess this varies from country to country. I don't know how they are
being enforced in your country, but in mine, they are not enforced.
However you are likely to lose a lot of privileges, possibly your job, by refusing to get a vaccine. Some might say, that is the same as enfocing them, and maybe it is.

It works this way: if society at large encourages employers from firing people who doesn't do X action, what society means is that people who doesn't do X does not have the right of making a living. This means, society is sending the message that people not complying does not deserve to live.

If it is done with government aproval it is outright enforcing. The fact they put it in a pink gift wrap with a ribbon and present it as something else does not change this.

It starts by saying that you are taking privileges away from people when you are actually taking their rights.

This is specially shocking because governments have been discouraging employers from asking employees questions regarding things that actually impact their ability to work, to the point of making it a felony. If government says that you can't ask me about my Hepatitis vaccination status but that they can use COVID-shot status as a criteria for deciding whether to hire me or not then government is just passively-agressively enforcing the shots.

Funny enough lots of places where they enforce have high vaccine acceptance rates, which puts into question what the heck's going on. Why do you set up an oppression machine for enforcing vaccination in a place with a 98% acceptance rate of the shot?

THIS is what I find scary. They are setting enforcement systems in place with the excuse of solving things that are non-problems and people is cheering. Once the enforcement system is accepted and everybody is used to it it will be trivial to keep adding to it. "Look, you didn't do X or Y so you don't have the right to work either, no go away and starve."

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to MRO on Fri Oct 29 2021 20:01:00

lied to by who? I'm not from the USA so I don't know what you've been
told by your various governments. Also, how do you know you were lied to? And that the information that is suggesting you were lied to is not a lie itself?

I think that is exactly his point. So much misinformation has been thrown around that people don't know what what/who to trust for reliable information. I feel like if someone could make a case either way and in a way that jives with logic and common sense, then most people might not be so defensive.

Just my 2 cents.


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 07:43 pm

I guess this varies from country to country. I don't know how they are
being enforced in your country, but in mine, they are not enforced.
However you are likely to lose a lot of privileges, possibly your job, by refusing to get a vaccine. Some might say, that is the same as enfocing them, and maybe it is.

that's how you get the people to revolt. once they grow some balls.

you can tell australian people have no fucking balls. i saw a woman being assaulted and her dress was pulled up to her waist for all the public to see. just because she didnt have her papers. a bunch of men can tackle a weak woman and assault her and show everyone her cunt because of some stupid papers for a vaccine that doesn't work.

even a worm will turn. i hope these people wake up.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to MRO on Fri Oct 29 2021 08:01 pm

i think it's because we've been lied to multiple times and told everything under the sun. i maybe considered uneducated by people
that love the vaccine, but god damn i sure am right about this whole situation more than vaccine promoters are.

lied to by who? I'm not from the USA so I don't know what you've been

sorry you have been under a rock for over a fucking year, so
check out a search engine like google.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Arelor to apam on Fri Oct 29 2021 08:57 am

Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 07:43 pm

I guess this varies from country to country. I don't know how they are being enforced in your country, but in mine, they are not enforced. However you are likely to lose a lot of privileges, possibly your job, by refusing to get a vaccine. Some might say, that is the same as enfocing them, and maybe it is.

It works this way: if society at large encourages employers from firing people who doesn't do X action, what society means is that people who doesn't do X does not have the right of making a living. This means, society

in the usa nobody wants to fucking work. i started a new job today just so i could be on first shift again. they are fucking begging me the first day to not quit. a guy came to see me twice today. just on my first day.
people are walking out during new hire orientations. this is watching videos and getting paid.

they arent gonna fire anybody.
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lied to by who? I'm not from the USA so I don't know what you've been
told by your various governments. Also, how do you know you were lied to?
And that the information that is suggesting you were lied to is not a lie itself?

I got the shot.

That said, a lot of Americans can remember Joe Biden being asked during his campaign whether or not he would support vaccine mandates. His stated
position at the time was that he would not *and* he didn't think that such mandates were legal.

IIRC, this came up again shortly after he was elected and he said the same thing... no and likely not legal.

A few months go, he completely flip-flopped and said he not only supported
them but encouraged business to do enforce mandates.

He never said he thought they were legal. There is apparently some
precedent in the USA as far as enforcing vaccinations go. That precedent
is approx. 100 years old. However, there are also laws on the books, since at least the 1990's, that make it illegal to ask most medical questions of employees.

As someone else pointed out, I am not sure how it is legal to ask whether
or not you have a COVID vaccine when there are so many other health things (including other vax statuses) that they are not allowed to ask.

In my government-run office, they won't even TELL us whether or not we might have been exposed to COVID because they are afraid of breaking the law.
All they will tell us is that "you don't have to come into the building tomorrow if you don't want to," and, if you were working in the office on
the day someone else was there that tested positive and voluntarily
divulged this to management, they might also include "...and you might want
to get tested."

So I can see where people are wondering how they can ask about COVID shots
but cannot ask us much of anything else about our health. And, if they
cannot legally ask, they cannot legally enforce a mandate.

As an aside, our employer found a slick way to find out if we were vaxed or not. Employees who had proof of vaccination could send in a copy and get
extra vacation leave days. That was voluntary, so it didn't break the law,
but you had to do it to get your reward.

Personally, I believe that people should do their own research, with the
bulk of the weight of said research being to ask their family doctor. I suspect that most people who think it is bad for them have not had that discussion, have had that discussion but discounted what was said, or they actually have a medical condition that would cause their doctor to be
cautious about them receiving the shot.


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 17:13:24

in the usa nobody wants to fucking work. i started a new job today just so i could be on first shift again. they are fucking begging me the first day to not quit. a
guy came to see me twice today. just on my first day.
people are walking out during new hire orientations. this is watching videos and getting paid.

they arent gonna fire anybody.

I heard an advertisement on the radio for the local Coca-Cola plant. They will give a free six pack of Coca-Cola to everyone that completes their interview process.

They don't even have to be hied to get it. You can show up in your PJ's, prop your feet on the interviewers desk, and stil walk out of there with more than you had when you got there. Fascinating!

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Sys64738 to apam on Fri Oct 29 2021 08:46 am

I think that is exactly his point. So much misinformation has been thrown around that people don't know what what/who to trust for reliable information. I feel like if someone could make a case either way and in a way that jives with logic and common sense, then most people might not be so defensive.

the fox is guarding the hen house.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dumas Walker to APAM on Fri Oct 29 2021 04:24 pm

told by your various governments. Also, how do you know you were lied to? And that the information that is suggesting you were lied to is not a lie itself?

I got the shot.

That said, a lot of Americans can remember Joe Biden being asked during his campaign whether or not he would support vaccine mandates. His stated position at the time was that he would not *and* he didn't think that such mandates were legal.

IIRC, this came up again shortly after he was elected and he said the same thing... no and likely not legal.

at my current job if you get covid they fire you if you weren't vaccinated. if you were vaccinated they give you a bunch of paid time off. if you got the shot and feel sick they give you a bunch of time off too. people just take advantage of it.

i dont give a shit, i'll get another job.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Sys64738 to MRO on Fri Oct 29 2021 07:54 pm

Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Oct 29 2021 17:13:24

in the usa nobody wants to fucking work. i started a new job today just so i could be on first shift again. they are fucking begging me the first day to not quit. a guy came to see me twice today. just on my first day.
people are walking out during new hire orientations. this is watching videos and getting paid.

they arent gonna fire anybody.

I heard an advertisement on the radio for the local Coca-Cola plant. They will give a free six pack of Coca-Cola to everyone that completes their interview process.

They don't even have to be hied to get it. You can show up in your PJ's,

that is just pennies to them.

the coke factory near me increased their wages +6 /hr
i was up for a job and i stopped them and told them nevermind when it was only 14 bucks an hour. nobody can live on that. is that like 200/wk or something?
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Sys64738 to MRO on Fri Oct 29 2021 07:54 pm

I heard an advertisement on the radio for the local Coca-Cola plant. They will give a free six pack of Coca-Cola to everyone that completes their interview process.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: The Lizard Master to Sys64738 on Sat Oct 30 2021 07:47 am

My son got the C64 mini and I had to run sys 64738 the other day.

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at my current job if you get covid they fire you if you weren't vaccinated. if
ou were vaccinated they give you a bunch of paid time off. if you got the sho
and feel sick they give you a bunch of time off too. people just take advanta
of it.

They were giving us up to 2 weeks off (but only once!) from when the
pandemic first broke out until shortly after Trump was no longer in office.
Now we have to use our existing leave if we catch the COVID.

IMHO, people took advantage of the 2 weeks at first, too. Lot's of people
felt bad and took it immediately. Some of them really were sick, some I am
not sure about. If they got it for real later, they had to take their own
time off.

I guess they are the smart ones, though... that was 2 free weeks we won't get now even if we get COVID. Also, I cannot begrudge them if they took
advantage as most of them are in positions where they cannot work from
home, so they were stuck in the building while many of us could WFH and
stay away from people if we wanted. They might as well get something out of being required to stay.

Because we are a government office, and they are not taking any steps to
punish people for not getting the shot, I suspect that this whole idea of a "mandate" is not legal. Otherwise, I think they'd be doing it.


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they arent gonna fire anybody.

IMHO, it could be an excuse for some companies who lost money during the pandemic (because of, or just because) to get rid of people and make it
look like they are "in the right."

I don't agree with them doing that, but apparently some are.


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Oct 30 2021 10:37 am

they arent gonna fire anybody.

IMHO, it could be an excuse for some companies who lost money during the pandemic (because of, or just because) to get rid of people and make it
look like they are "in the right."

I don't agree with them doing that, but apparently some are.

well everyone needs workers i'm pretty sure.
my former company cut the fat during covid. they put people in the offices at home and then eventually they found out that these people don't do shit period. they were hiding in the herd at work and when they were at home they werent producing or they were just not needed. so THAT may have happened all over for a period of time.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: apam to Matthew Munson on Fri Oct 29 2021 03:29 pm

Also there is a huge distrust of authority, especially when the guy you voted against got in and you're already angry at that. So when it's polititions promoting the vaccine, it's easy for many to distrust it and look for data that fits their position.

i dont think that's why.

i think it's because we've been lied to multiple times and told
everything under the sun. i maybe considered uneducated by people that love the vaccine, but god damn i sure am right about this whole
situation more than vaccine promoters are. ---

I have found that it is the "conspiracy theorists" who have been able to tell me most accurately what is going to happen as a result of this pandemic.

This is the problem, when the government who is following "the science" can't get it right, but the "conspiracy theorists" seem to be able to tell you what will happen with more confidence, and more accuracy, then why wouldn't you conclude they might be right about other matters too, like the vaccine.

The government in Australia, in particular the Victorian state government have been wrong time and time again. Wrong about flattening the curve, wrong about target zero, wrong about vaccine mandates, wrong about vaccine apartheid, wrong about boosters, just to name a few.



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Also there is a huge distrust of authority, especially when the guy
you
voted against got in and you're already angry at that. So when it's polititions promoting the vaccine, it's easy for many to distrust it
and
look for data that fits their position.

Before the 2020 American election, the other party was a bit pissy about
the RNA vaccines as well. It flipped. I did take them, but I am refusing
to get any boosters. I will take the religious exemption that the vaccine makers lied about the fetal cells during development and I sincerly would consider the Tobacco/Plant based vaccine when they become mainstream in
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Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it anti-vaxxers?

If you're not qualified in the particular field of science, then what
ever questioning you do is at best worthless, at worst dangerous.

The problem today is too many people are asserting their uneducated opinions as fact, people believe it because either it agrees with their own feelings and beliefs, or it's said by someone they trust.

Hear, Hear apam. How could we ever replicate the research of a billion dollar lab staffed with more PhD's than I have Raspberry PIs.

Reading /r/hermancainaward is so saddening. Many deniers regretting their choices on their death beds.

Time for all this to end.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Sys64738 on Sat Oct 30 2021 04:55 am

Re: So who's refusing to get

I think that is exactly his point. So much misinformation has been
thrown around that people don't know what what/who to trust for

the fox is guarding the hen house.
the people in charge of information and handling this situation are the ones that probably helped to cause this pandemic

I work at a large Company, the People who are unvaccinated wear mask's all day, Vaccinated people are not required to wear masks we don't have a big covid problem.
If someone gets symtoms they have to get the PRN testing and if posative have to quarantine for I think it's 10 days.
I coughed the other day to clear my throat and my Boss imeadiatly asked if I was ok.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Oct 30 2021 10:28 am

I guess they are the smart ones, though... that was 2 free weeks we won't get now even if we get COVID. Also, I cannot begrudge them if they took advantage as most of them are in positions where they cannot work from home, so they were stuck in the building while many of us could WFH and stay away from people if we wanted. They might as well get something out of being required to stay.

Because we are a government office, and they are not taking any steps to punish people for not getting the shot, I suspect that this whole idea of a "mandate" is not legal. Otherwise, I think they'd be doing it.

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from foriegn powers.


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Sat Oct 30 2021 09:36 pm

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like he d his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from foriegn power

A disease that wipes out millions IS a foriegn power.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Renagademaster to apam on Sat Oct 30 2021 09:21 pm

The problem today is too many people are asserting their uneducated opinions as fact, people believe it because either it agrees with their own feelings and beliefs, or it's said by someone they trust.

Hear, Hear apam. How could we ever replicate the research of a billion dollar lab staffed with more PhD's than I have Raspberry PIs.

funny how they are wrong all the time. they are only human and that means they are lazy and stupid and liars.

Reading /r/hermancainaward is so saddening. Many deniers regretting their

ah, you like reddit. that makes sense.

the vaccine doesnt stop you from getting any more sick than you would if you didn't have it. they have no proof of that. what people regret is getting sick and eventually dying. when they are towards the end maybe they wish they took the vaccine because now they think they had nothing to lose.

the guy that gave me covid had the vaccine and he still got sick. much sicker than i did. he also was younger and in much better shape.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Sat Oct 30 2021 09:26 pm

I work at a large Company, the People who are unvaccinated wear mask's all day, Vaccinated people are not required to wear masks we don't have a big covid problem.
If someone gets symtoms they have to get the PRN testing and if posative

people that have covid feel fine and are super contagious for the first week.

a lot of people have no symptoms. your workplace should test every one once or twice a week if they want to accomplish anything.

there's no escaping covid. everyone will get it. i was at the store and a douchebag coughed in my face. didnt cover his mouth, had no mask on and we were all packed in the store like sardines.

there is no way for the human race to combat this virus with our methods that we think up. people as a whole are idiots and we have to interact with eachother.

we're lucky covid isnt more deadly. we'd all be dead.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Sat Oct 30 2021 09:36 pm

Because we are a government office, and they are not taking any steps to punish people for not getting the shot, I suspect that this whole idea of a "mandate" is not legal. Otherwise, I think they'd be doing it.

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from foriegn powers.

it's only illegal if you get caught. democrats break the laws all the time to suit their needs. my home city just made national news for their election fraud. our governor defended them. any opposers to what they did were branded unprofessional.
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The problem today is too many people are asserting their uneducated opinions as fact, people believe it because either it agrees with their own feelings and beliefs, or it's said by someone they trust.

Or because social networks are echo chambers that magnify potentially dangerous lines of thinking in order to maximize the number of people polarized on their sites, which increases membership and revenues?



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HusTler wrote to Denn <=-

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like he d his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from foriegn power

A disease that wipes out millions IS a foriegn power.

No, it isn't.



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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Sun Oct 31 2021 09:01 am

I work at a large Company, the People who are unvaccinated wear mask's
all day, Vaccinated people are not required to wear masks we don't
have a big covid problem.
If someone gets symtoms they have to get the PRN testing and if
posative

people that have covid feel fine and are super contagious for the first week.

a lot of people have no symptoms. your workplace should test every one once or twice a week if they want to accomplish anything.

Maybe so many have already had it, I don't know if I had it or not early on, Had slight flu symtoms about 1 month before covid hit hard in my state, wife also had slight flu symtoms, could've been Covid could've just been the flu.

there's no escaping covid. everyone will get it. i was at the store and a douchebag coughed in my face. didnt cover his mouth, had no mask on and we were all packed in the store like sardines.

Or we may all get the next deadlier virus made in china that could wipe out 1/3 to 1/2 of the population.



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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Sun Oct 31 2021 09:08 am

Because we are a government office, and they are not taking any
steps to punish people for not getting the shot, I suspect that
this whole idea of a "mandate" is not legal. Otherwise, I think
they'd be doing it.

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like
he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from
foriegn powers.

it's only illegal if you get caught. democrats break the laws all the time to suit their needs. my home city just made national news for their electi

Republcans talk tough but most of them are scared of the loud mouth Democrats like Pelosi, Schummer etc..

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to HusTler on Sun Oct 31 2021 09:18 pm

and we were all packed in the store like sardines.

Or we may all get the next deadlier virus made in china that could wipe out 1/3 to 1/2 of the population.

maybe that's the one that they are working on with the dogs.
cutting their vocal cords to keep them quiet and making them feel pain more by burning the brain with acid. sounds nice
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Mon Nov 01 2021 05:10 am

Or we may all get the next deadlier virus made in china that could
wipe out 1/3 to 1/2 of the population.

maybe that's the one that they are working on with the dogs.
cutting their vocal cords to keep them quiet and making them feel pain more by burning the brain with acid. sounds nice

Yeah I saw that disturbing photo.

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George Burdell wrote to All <=-

Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it
anti-vaxxers?

(For the record, I've been fully vaccinated since April)

Well, I've been Vacinated since June and just got over a pretty good bout of it. Kept me in bed for 3 days and still having some symptoms, after 10 days now, like shortness of breath, tired easy, sense of taste and smell are there but have changed a lot. Not fun. Now I'm back to work and everyone in the office is avoiding me. They're not happy I'm back as I have some sinus issues and cough. Boss said I had to though.....




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Denn wrote to George Burdell <=-

Re: So who's refusing to get vaccinated?
By: George Burdell to All on Wed Oct 27 2021 03:42 pm

Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it anti-vaxxers?

(For the record, I've been fully vaccinated since April)

Actually it's non of your business who is or isn't.
There are many people out there that had covid and have 13% or more antibodies than the vaxxed.
The vaccine niether prevents you from getting covid or spreading it.

Exactly. I have just got over a bout even though fully vacinated....



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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Thumper to George Burdell on Mon Nov 01 2021 08:57 am

George Burdell wrote to All <=-

Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it anti-vaxxers?

(For the record, I've been fully vaccinated since April)

Well, I've been Vacinated since June and just got over a pretty good bout of it. Kept me in bed for 3 days and still having some symptoms, after 10 days now, like shortness of breath, tired easy, sense of taste and smell are there but have changed a lot. Not fun. Now I'm back to work and everyone in the office is avoiding me. They're not happy I'm back as I have some sinus issues and cough. Boss said I had to though.....

sounds like you had regular covid and your vaccine didnt do anything.

get the nose spray with the steriod in it. walgreens has it
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Denn wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like
he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from foriegn powers.

You'd think the Republican party would jump at a chance to file articles of impeachment, if that were the case.


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Thumper wrote to Denn <=-

Exactly. I have just got over a bout even though fully vacinated....

My understanding is that the vaccine is not 100%, but somewhere in the
90% effective. But also that it will help keep you out of the hospital
and alive. So, even though we can still get it, the expectation is that
we won't be hospitalized or die from it. Sucks that you got it at all
though. Sorry to hear that.


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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Sun Oct 31 2021 07:44 am

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order
like he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and
defence from foriegn powers.

You'd think the Republican party would jump at a chance to file articles of impeachment, if that were the case.

Particularly since some republicans seem to think Biden stole the election. But then again, some republicans thought Obama wans't born in the US and thus wasn't qualified to be the US president, and he wasn't removed from office..

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Thumper to Denn on Mon Nov 01 2021 08:59 am

Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it
anti-vaxxers?

My point here is the Dumb Ass GB that's calling people out who don't want the vaccine calling them anti-science dumb and proud of it anti-vaxxers.
GB has n clue what the science is.

The vaccine niether prevents you from getting covid or spreading it.

Exactly. I have just got over a bout even though fully vacinated....

Sorry to hear you got it, Hope you're doing ok.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Sun Oct 31 2021 07:44 am

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order
like he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and
defence from foriegn powers.

You'd think the Republican party would jump at a chance to file articles of impeachment, if that were the case.

You'd think, but Democrats have majority in congress and several anti Trumper Republicans that would vote against it.
There are however many lawsuits filed against the mandates by Governors and some Republicans.
Impeachment is not the way to go, Article 25 would be a far better option.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Sun Oct 31 2021 07:44 am

Denn wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

It's not within Joe Bidens power to issue such an executive order like he did, his emergency powers are for natural disaters and defence from foriegn powers.

You'd think the Republican party would jump at a chance to file articles of impeachment, if that were the case.

i think they're letting him fuck over himself and the democratic party as much as possible.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 01 2021 07:02 pm

Particularly since some republicans seem to think Biden stole the election. But then again, some republicans thought Obama wans't born in the US and thus wasn't qualified to be the US president, and he wasn't removed from office..

they did get his birth cert and it was like an assembled document. you could edit some of the document's features and move them around. it wasnt a scan.
it wasnt 'rasterized'.

i dont think biden himself 'stole' the election but there has been rampant cheating that was caught. we're supposed to 'move on' from that.
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Denn wrote to Thumper <=-

Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Thumper to Denn on Mon Nov 01 2021 08:59 am

Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it
anti-vaxxers?

My point here is the Dumb Ass GB that's calling people out who don't
want the vaccine calling them anti-science dumb and proud of it anti-vaxxers.
GB has n clue what the science is.

The vaccine niether prevents you from getting covid or spreading it.

Exactly. I have just got over a bout even though fully vacinated....

Sorry to hear you got it, Hope you're doing ok.

Doing better now. I hear what you're saying. I got the vaccine but think it's up to each individual to decide whether to get it or not. My main reason was age and then helping both mine and my wife's aging parents. Now it appears I'd have to anyways due to the size of our company and the new mandates coming
own.


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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Nov 02 2021 04:59 am

Particularly since some republicans seem to think Biden stole the
election. But then again, some republicans thought Obama wans't born
in the US and thus wasn't qualified to be the US president, and he
wasn't removed from office..

they did get his birth cert and it was like an assembled document. you could edit some of the document's features and move them around. it wasnt a scan. it wasnt 'rasterized'.

Hillary's Campaign started the birther rumors and one of her top advisors was fired over that rumor, Awhile later Trump revived it.

i dont think biden himself 'stole' the election but there has been rampant cheating that was caught. we're supposed to 'move on' from that.

There was really bad things going on in the key states and counties, Most Republicans rolled over and played dead.
So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Thumper to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 07:44 am

Just checking who are the anti-science dumb and proud of it
anti-vaxxers?

My point here is the Dumb Ass GB that's calling people out who

Doing better now. I hear what you're saying. I got the vaccine but think it's up to each individual to decide whether to get it or not. My main reason was age and then helping both mine and my wife's aging parents. Now it appears I'd have to anyways due to the size of our company and the new mandates coming own.

I also got the vaccine due to age, I agree it should be a persons preference weather or not to get the shot.
GB is a typical leftist trying to shame everyone.
He uses "the Science" as a sheild, He does not understand the Science of Covid antibodies being better than the shots, or the monoclonal antibody treatments that are helping thousands of people to recover fully from Covid.
GB is a propagandist.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Thumper to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 07:44 am

it appears I'd have to anyways due to the size of our company and the new mandates coming
own.

the govt cant get their shit together enough for the 'mandates'.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Tue Nov 02 2021 11:13 am

wasnt a scan. it wasnt 'rasterized'.

Hillary's Campaign started the birther rumors and one of her top advisors was fired over that rumor, Awhile later Trump revived it.

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

There was really bad things going on in the key states and counties, Most Republicans rolled over and played dead.
So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

they should have been prepared beforehand. the just werent. i'm not sure how they would be prepared.
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office is avoiding me. They're not happy I'm back as I have some sinus issues
and cough. Boss said I had to though.....

Then the boss should get the rancor. lol


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to Thumper on Tue Nov 02 2021 11:25 am

I also got the vaccine due to age, I agree it should be a persons preference weather or not to get the shot.
GB is a typical leftist trying to shame everyone.
He uses "the Science" as a sheild, He does not understand the Science of Covid antibodies being better than the shots, or the monoclonal antibody treatments that are helping thousands of people to recover fully from Covid.
GB is a propagandist.

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months. So that's great.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 06:42 pm

Hillary's Campaign started the birther rumors and one of her top
advisors was fired over that rumor, Awhile later Trump revived it.

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

I don't think Obama's citizenship was ever the issue..? The issue people were making a fuss about was whether Obama was born in the US.

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Denn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Impeachment is not the way to go, Article 25 would be a far better
option.

The bar for 25 is pretty high now.

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure disease. He thought
we had planes that were invisible, and he ate hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.



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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 06:42 pm

wasnt a scan. it wasnt 'rasterized'.

Hillary's Campaign started the birther rumors and one of her top
advisors was fired over that rumor, Awhile later Trump revived it.

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

They did find one from Hawaii who knows if it was real or not?
Hillary would've done almost anything to be the 1st Woman President.

There was really bad things going on in the key states and counties,
Most Republicans rolled over and played dead.
So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

they should have been prepared beforehand. the just werent. i'm not sure how they would be prepared.

Most Republicans hate confronting Democrats, sure they will make tough sounding speeches against what democrats do, but that is just a show.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: The Lizard Master to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 07:18 pm

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months. So that's great.

No from what I've read you never lose your covid antibodies after having covid.
If 100% of people were vaccinated they could still get and spread covid.
I am going to get the booster as my company announced today that Medical insurance for the unvaccinated would cost an extra $50 a month, and to keep from being charged the extra $50 we need the booster, I wasn't going to get the booster until they said that.


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Denn wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

No from what I've read you never lose your covid antibodies after
having covid.

That's partly because, like the flu, you are always getting, and fighting off COVID.

That's the beauty of natural immunity. Your body responds with "I've seen something like that before and I know how to handle it."

That's opposed to the not-vaccine which is tailored to 1 variant and is pretty much useless for anything else.


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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Tue Nov 02 2021 11:13 am

So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

They stormed the White House. That's not fighting?

Let's Go Brandon!

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to The Lizard Master on Tue Nov 02 2021 11:02 pm

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months. So that's great.

No from what I've read you never lose your covid antibodies after having covid.
If 100% of people were vaccinated they could still get and spread covid.
I am going to get the booster as my company announced today that Medical insurance for the unvaccinated would cost an extra $50 a month, and to keep from being charged the extra $50 we need the booster, I wasn't going to get the booster until they said that.

What was the source on that? I've had several friends get Covid twice. In one case the second time was much worse. I know thats anecdotal, but I haven't read you never lose you antibodies anywhere either.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 08:12 am

Impeachment is not the way to go, Article 25 would be a far better
option.

The bar for 25 is pretty high now.

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure disease. He thought we had planes that were invisible, and he ate hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out of context by CNN and other fake media outlets.


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dr. What to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 07:48 am

No from what I've read you never lose your covid antibodies after
having covid.

That's partly because, like the flu, you are always getting, and fighting off COVID.

That's the beauty of natural immunity. Your body responds with "I've seen something like that before and I know how to handle it."

That's opposed to the not-vaccine which is tailored to 1 variant and is pretty much useless for anything else.

Not sure what studies he was reading, I personally have not seen that one. Everything I've read shows natuaral Imunities are 13% or higher better than the covid shots.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: HusTler to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 07:15 am

So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

They stormed the White House. That's not fighting?

That was a few nutjobs that did that, I'm talking about non violent fighting as in standing up for themselves and Us.



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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Nov 03 2021 09:58 am

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered
if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure
disease. He thought we had planes that were invisible, and he ate
hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put
alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out of context by CNN and other fake media outlets.

We might need plenty of covfefe to drink while working on that.

Nightfox

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: The Lizard Master to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 07:18 pm

Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to Thumper on Tue Nov 02 2021 11:25 am

I also got the vaccine due to age, I agree it should be a persons preference weather or not to get the shot.
GB is a typical leftist trying to shame everyone.
He uses "the Science" as a sheild, He does not understand the Science of Covid antibodies being better than the shots, or the monoclonal antibody treatments that are helping thousands of people to recover fully from Cov
GB is a propagandist.

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months. So that's great.

---TLM

It is funny you mnention that, because I have been reading in mainstream articles, for months, the opposite - that natural antibodies are an order of magnitude better than the others.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Nov 02 2021 06:44 pm

I don't think Obama's citizenship was ever the issue..? The issue people were making a fuss about was whether Obama was born in the US.

dude those are one and the same.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Tue Nov 02 2021 08:12 am

The bar for 25 is pretty high now.

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure disease.

our own body produces disinfectants. our body creates the same chemicals in bleach.

He thought
we had planes that were invisible,

we do have planes that are pretty much invisible. to the naked eye and radar.

and he ate hamberders.

so now you have a guy who eats mushy food with his dentures out and likes icecream. then he shits his pants when he meets the pope.

He wanted to shoot
nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

sounds like a great guy. hope he gets elected again.

how is your president poopy pants doing? i see you cant stop thinking about trump.

so do you even wipe the human shit off your shoes when you walk through your neighborhood to use your coffee house's wifi or do you just leave it there because it's pointless?

build back better, poindexter
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Tue Nov 02 2021 10:46 pm

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

They did find one from Hawaii who knows if it was real or not?
Hillary would've done almost anything to be the 1st Woman President.

the white house put it up for download and people were moving the elements around. it was a manufactured document until they 'fixed' it.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: The Lizard Master to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 07:32 am

What was the source on that? I've had several friends get Covid twice. In one case the second time was much worse. I know thats anecdotal, but I haven't read you never lose you antibodies anywhere either.

they probably think they had it twice but had the flu once or thought it up. there's different strains of covid, also.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:09 pm

I don't think Obama's citizenship was ever the issue..? The issue
people were making a fuss about was whether Obama was born in the US.

dude those are one and the same.

No, they're not the same thing. A person can be a US citizen whether or not they're born in the US. A person can be a US citizen if they're born in the US or born to US citizens. But someone born outside the US can become a US citizen through the naturalization process. So someone born outside the US can still become a US citizen..

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Nov 02 2021 06:44 pm

I don't think Obama's citizenship was ever the issue..? The issue people were making a fuss about was whether Obama was born in the US.

dude those are one and the same.

A baby can be born overseas to two parents who are both natural birth Americans & it is a natural born American, too. . .

So there you have citizenship without being born in the USA.

The relevant department in Hawaii has produced Obama's Hawaiian birth cert9ficate, proving hwe was born there on the date his parents claim.

You don't think Trump might have been a little biased & agenda-focused in his attacks on Obama?

Or do you believe EVERY person working in that department from the date of his birth til 2006 AND every newspaper reporter & editor in America AND every television news director/producer AND everyone else remotely connected to the secret were successfully, with no weak links, conspiring to lie about it?

Wghere were those, in on the conspiracy, sneaking off to sell their blabbing to Trump for big money?

Where were those members who just want 15 minutes of fame?

I find it hard to believe hundreds of people, a certain percentage who believe lying will net them eternity in hellfire, could maintain such a lie for so long, against insurmountable temptations.

Like I say; if you have evidence, post it here for all to see.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Nov 03 2021 04:59 pm

Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:09 pm

I don't think Obama's citizenship was ever the issue..? The issue
people were making a fuss about was whether Obama was born in the US.

dude those are one and the same.

No, they're not the same thing. A person can be a US citizen whether or not they're born in the US. A person can be a US citizen if they're born in the US or born to US citizens. But someone born outside the US can become a US

they were saying obama was not born in the usa, did not have a birth cert in the usa and was not a united states citizen.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Wed Nov 03 2021 05:38 pm

dude those are one and the same.

A baby can be born overseas to two parents who are both natural birth Americans & it is a natural born American, too. . .

So there you have citizenship without being born in the USA.

The relevant department in Hawaii has produced Obama's Hawaiian birth cert9ficate, proving hwe was born there on the date his parents claim.

You don't think Trump might have been a little biased & agenda-focused in his attacks on Obama?

i dont give a shit what the situation was. he was president and he no longer is president. all i'm saying is i saw a person on tv manipulate the document that anybody could download. if it was a true scan you couldnt manipulate it.
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I am going to get the booster as my company announced today that
Medical
insurance for the unvaccinated would cost an extra $50 a month, and to
keep
from being charged the extra $50 we need the booster, I wasn't going
to get the
booster until they said that.

companies should be liable for vaccine injuries with mandates such as
this.


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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 09:35 am

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered
if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure
disease. He thought we had planes that were invisible, and he ate
hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put
alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out of
context by CNN and other fake media outlets.

We might need plenty of covfefe to drink while working on that.

I'll get a bowl of TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE and get back to you.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Arelor to The Lizard Master on Wed Nov 03 2021 03:24 pm

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than
the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months.
So that's great.

Ok what study?

It is funny you mnention that, because I have been reading in mainstream articles, for months, the opposite - that natural antibodies are an order of magnitude better than the others.

same here, funny he didn't remember to link to that study so we could read it. Or is it another "Follow the Science" as a shield to keep people from questioning it.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:12 pm

The bar for 25 is pretty high now.

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered if
you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure disease.

our own body produces disinfectants. our body creates the same chemicals in bleach.

He thought
we had planes that were invisible,

We have planes that are invisible to enemy radar.

how is your president poopy pants doing? i see you cant stop thinking about trump.

Trump Lives in their heads.
BTW did Joe ever wake up from his nap at the Climate confrence?

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:13 pm

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i
think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled
all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

They did find one from Hawaii who knows if it was real or not?
Hillary would've done almost anything to be the 1st Woman President.

the white house put it up for download and people were moving the elements around. it was a manufactured document until they 'fixed' it.

Maybe we should ask to see Kamala's Birth cert.
she could have been born in Jamaca or India.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Matthew Munson to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 09:26 pm

I am going to get the booster as my company announced today that
Medical
insurance for the unvaccinated would cost an extra $50 a month, and to keep
from being charged the extra $50 we need the booster, I wasn't going
to get the
booster until they said that.

companies should be liable for vaccine injuries with mandates such as
this.

And even without them.

If you make a car and the car explodes because of design failure, you are gonna pay through your nose.

I have mentioned elsewhere that it used to be the case, at least in Spain, that if a vaccine proved itself less effective than advertised it would mean trouble for the lab.

By this I mean if you vaccinated a dog and the dog died of whatever he had been vaccinated against, there would be a fuss and the lab may end up paying for the messup.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to Arelor on Wed Nov 03 2021 10:55 pm

Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Arelor to The Lizard Master on Wed Nov 03 2021 03:24 pm

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than
the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months.
So that's great.

Ok what study?

It is funny you mnention that, because I have been reading in mainstrea articles, for months, the opposite - that natural antibodies are an ord of magnitude better than the others.

same here, funny he didn't remember to link to that study so we could read Or is it another "Follow the Science" as a shield to keep people from questioning it.

... "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes."

I have posted it twice already.

So I am gonna post a new article because I am bored of posting the same thing every single time:

https://science.thewire.in/health/natural-immunity-covid-19-greater-protection- delta-variant-vaccines-israel-study/

Sample of 16 000 vaccinated people compared to a sample of 16 000 unvaccinated people.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Arelor to The Lizard Master on Wed Nov 03 2021 03:24 pm

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months. So that's great.

---TLM

It is funny you mnention that, because I have been reading in mainstream articles, for months, the opposite - that natural antibodies are an order of magnitude better than the others.

I think you might be talking about the memory cells, and that's just a guess at this point - https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/01/what-works-better-vaccines-or-natural-immunity/

---TLM

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to The Lizard Master on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:15 pm

What was the source on that? I've had several friends get Covid twice. In one case the second time was much worse. I know thats anecdotal, but I haven't read you never lose you antibodies anywhere either.

they probably think they had it twice but had the flu once or thought it up. there's different strains of covid, also.

I know alot of people that "thought" they had it, but in this case my friend works with me and is in a work testing program. It's probable with was different strains though.

---TLM

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Denn wrote to Dr. What <=-

Not sure what studies he was reading, I personally have not seen that one. Everything I've read shows natuaral Imunities are 13% or higher better than the covid shots.

He was probably reading "studies" by Leftie "experts" (i.e. Propaganda produced by leftie shills).

The studies that I've seen have natural immunity at 3 times better than the COVID shots. Especially now that we know that the not-vax is pretty much useless after 7 months (hence the need for "boosters").

But regardless of the number, natural immunity is always better than a vaccine and we've known this for decades now. So the push to get everyone the shot has no scienfitic basis.

But seeing that's the case, we have to ask: Why push to have everyone get the shot?

And that's a question that the Leftie Elite can't (or don't want to) answer.


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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: The Lizard Master to Sys64738 on Sat Oct 30 2021 07:47:04

My son got the C64 mini and I had to run sys 64738 the other day.

lol...I haven't had a legit C=64 in decades, but I will never forget that command. I think it's permanenty seared into my brain. Ha!

SYS64738

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Denn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure disease. He thought we had planes that were invisible, and he ate hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out of
context by CNN and other fake media outlets.

I find it tragic, not funny. And, we all heard these comments, IN CONTEXT.


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HusTler wrote to Denn <=-

Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Tue Nov 02 2021 11:13 am

So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

They stormed the White House. That's not fighting?

That was a friendly tourist group, if you ask the republican lawmakers
hiding behind the capital security forces, not a group of insurrectionists trying to disrupt the election process.

Let's Go Brandon!

Stay Classy.




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Nightfox wrote to Denn <=-

We might need plenty of covfefe to drink while working on that.

I've had to switch to decovfefe since 1/6.


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Arelor wrote to Matthew Munson <=-

If you make a car and the car explodes because of design failure, you
are gonna pay through your nose.

In the USA, we had an issue in the 1970s with the Ford Pinto. Because of design flaws in the gas tank filler, the filler could separate and the car explode in a rear-end collision.

Ford could recall all of the cars, bringing down media scrutiny and
affecting their brand reputation. Or, they could leave the defective cars in place, pay the victims and include a no-disparagement, non-disclosure clause in the settlement.

Ford, faced with two options chose the latter, less-costly approach.

It did come back to bite them in the end, but they survive and continue to make money. it's all about creating increasing shareholder value, in any for-profit enterprise.






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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Matthew Munson to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 09:26 pm

I am going to get the booster as my company announced today that
Medical
insurance for the unvaccinated would cost an extra $50 a month, and to keep
from being charged the extra $50 we need the booster, I wasn't going
to get the
booster until they said that.

companies should be liable for vaccine injuries with mandates such as
this.

yeah but it's all in the fine print that they are not.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Nov 03 2021 10:49 pm

Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 09:35 am

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered
if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure
disease. He thought we had planes that were invisible, and he ate
hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put
alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out of
context by CNN and other fake media outlets.

We might need plenty of covfefe to drink while working on that.

I'll get a bowl of TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE and get back to you.

... Life is like... an analogy.

i like this one video of his flubs and his sign language guy just has this look like he's given up.https://i.imgur.com/tPtzw5R.png
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: The Lizard Master to MRO on Thu Nov 04 2021 08:12 am

they probably think they had it twice but had the flu once or thought it up. there's different strains of covid, also.

I know alot of people that "thought" they had it, but in this case my friend works with me and is in a work testing program. It's probable with was different strains though.

is this what he says or is there actual proof?
i'm not sure they have had many cases where someone got covid twice.
testing hasnt been available for that long. with testing being used in the public sector and that's even less time
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Thu Nov 04 2021 07:07 am

In the USA, we had an issue in the 1970s with the Ford Pinto. Because of design flaws in the gas tank filler, the filler could separate and the car explode in a rear-end collision.

Ford could recall all of the cars, bringing down media scrutiny and

boy you really have no original thoughts, do you? i have heard liberals repeat this shit for decades.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dr. What to Denn on Thu Nov 04 2021 08:12 am

Not sure what studies he was reading, I personally have not seen
that one. Everything I've read shows natuaral Imunities are 13% or
higher better than the covid shots.

He was probably reading "studies" by Leftie "experts" (i.e. Propaganda produced by leftie shills).

Probably from the Fauci papers.

The studies that I've seen have natural immunity at 3 times better than the COVID shots. Especially now that we know that the not-vax is pretty much useless after 7 months (hence the need for "boosters").

Florida and Texas have opened up without restrictions or mask mandates or vaccine mandates and both states are trending down signifacantly in covid deaths and cases.

But regardless of the number, natural immunity is always better than a vaccine and we've known this for decades now. So the push to get everyone the shot has no scienfitic basis.

This is true, but the left keeps pushing the vaccines, how many politiians hold stock in covid vaccine companies? haow many get campaign donations from vaccine companies?

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Thu Nov 04 2021 06:59 am

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who wondered
if you could inject disinfectants into the human body to cure
disease. He thought we had planes that were invisible, and he ate
hamberders. He wanted to shoot nuclear missiles at hurricanes, put
alligators in a moat, and buy Greenland.

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out of
context by CNN and other fake media outlets.

I find it tragic, not funny. And, we all heard these comments, IN CONTEXT.

Many things said were taken out of context and you would know it if you didn't get your news from sources like CNN, MSNBC and others.
the trick is to NOT use the whole video or audio clip, conveniently cutting parts out to make a false narrative, I could do that all day long with Joe Biden.


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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Thu Nov 04 2021 07:02 am

So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

They stormed the White House. That's not fighting?

That was a friendly tourist group, if you ask the republican lawmakers hiding behind the capital security forces, not a group of insurrectionists trying to disrupt the election process.

OK so let's just forget about all the BLM and ANTIFA riots the killed many, Injured many many more, burnt buildings, destroyed Businesses.
Funny how you jackasses never mention that but you're fixated on one day in Jan.
BTW the capitol police officer that shot an unarmed woman and got off scott free, if it would've been a group of Democrats on jan 6th that officer would've probably been convicted of murder.
the people on Jan 6th should be prosecuted, but so should all the rioters across America during the so called "Summer of Love".

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Thu Nov 04 2021 05:59 pm

We once had a president who wasn't removed from office who
wondered if you could inject disinfectants into the human body

Haha funny, One could write a book out of things taken way out
of context by CNN and other fake media outlets.

We might need plenty of covfefe to drink while working on that.

I'll get a bowl of TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE and get back to you.

... Life is like... an analogy.

i like this one video of his flubs and his sign language guy just has this look like he's given up.https://i.imgur.com/tPtzw5R.png

Most of us have given up on FJB, he lies non stop when he is coherent.
Or he falls asleep everywhere he goes, I wonder why there is no one there to catch him when he's at the podium?
Let's GO Brandon - TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to The Lizard Master on Thu Nov 04 2021 08:22 pm

they probably think they had it twice but had the flu once or
thought it up. there's different strains of covid, also.

I know alot of people that "thought" they had it, but in this case my
friend works with me and is in a work testing program. It's probable
with was different strains though.

is this what he says or is there actual proof?
i'm not sure they have had many cases where someone got covid twice. testing hasnt been available for that long. with testing being used in the public sector and that's even less time

The PRN testing they're doing to test for Covid is highly inaccurate with many false posatives, that's why late this year or early next year it's being replaced by a more accurate test.

... It is bad luck to be superstitious.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 04 2021 08:24 pm

In the USA, we had an issue in the 1970s with the Ford Pinto. Because
of design flaws in the gas tank filler, the filler could separate and
the car explode in a rear-end collision.

Ford could recall all of the cars, bringing down media scrutiny and

boy you really have no original thoughts, do you? i have heard liberals repeat this shit for decades.

Hey the brite side of the ford Pinto issues was I once bought a decent Pinto for $50

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Hello The Lizard Master!

** On Tuesday 02.11.21 - 19:18, The Lizard Master wrote to Denn:

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months. So that's great.

Sounds opposite of what I've been hearing from credible Drs for
decades.

What study? Gotta link for it?


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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 04 2021 11:23 pm

Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Thu Nov 04 2021 07:02 am

So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

They stormed the White House. That's not fighting?

That was a friendly tourist group, if you ask the republican lawmakers hiding behind the capital security forces, not a group of insurrectionists trying to disrupt the election process.

OK so let's just forget about all the BLM and ANTIFA riots the killed many, Injured many many more, burnt buildings, destroyed Businesses.
Funny how you jackasses never mention that but you're fixated on one day in Jan.
BTW the capitol police officer that shot an unarmed woman and got off scott

they were pretty much a friendly tourist group in compairson to the blm riots. they even walked within the ropes. they didn't attack the police.

poindexter is so full of shit his eyes are brown.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Thu Nov 04 2021 11:38 pm

i'm not sure they have had many cases where someone got covid twice. testing hasnt been available for that long. with testing being used in the public sector and that's even less time

The PRN testing they're doing to test for Covid is highly inaccurate with many false posatives, that's why late this year or early next year it's being replaced by a more accurate test.

yeah i remember the early tests were all coming back positive. even the people who didn't show up for the tests tested positive. :D
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to MRO on Thu Nov 04 2021 11:43 pm

Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 04 2021 08:24 pm

In the USA, we had an issue in the 1970s with the Ford Pinto. Because
of design flaws in the gas tank filler, the filler could separate and
the car explode in a rear-end collision.

Ford could recall all of the cars, bringing down media scrutiny and

boy you really have no original thoughts, do you? i have heard liberals repeat this shit for decades.

Hey the brite side of the ford Pinto issues was I once bought a decent Pinto for $50

there's a guy explaining this to a young michael moore. he said the people pretty much knew they were buying a cheap fucking car. they shouldn't have expected a high safety rating for a car of that design.

i knew people that collected pintos and their car never exploded.
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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Ogg to The Lizard Master on Fri Nov 05 2021 08:33 am

Hello The Lizard Master!

** On Tuesday 02.11.21 - 19:18, The Lizard Master wrote to Denn:

I just read a study today that showed the shot is slightly better than the covid antibodies and they both kinda run out around six months.
So that's great.

Sounds opposite of what I've been hearing from credible Drs for
decades.

there's no way that what the body actually makes could perform less than a man made shot.

What study? Gotta link for it?

it's the one made up in his head.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Wed Nov 03 2021 05:38 pm

dude those are one and the same.

A baby can be born overseas to two parents who are both natural birth Americans & it is a natural born American, too. . .

So there you have citizenship without being born in the USA.

The relevant department in Hawaii has produced Obama's Hawaiian birth cert9ficate, proving hwe was born there on the date his parents claim.

You don't think Trump might have been a little biased & agenda-focused in his attacks on Obama?

i dont give a shit what the situation was. he was president and he no longer is president. all i'm saying is i saw a person on tv manipulate the document that anybody could download. if it was a true scan you couldnt manipulate it.

Of course you could. I'm no graphics desiugner -- no training of any kind; only use tools I googled up & I can manipulate any document you give me! I can even redate it to the original creation date!

Proves nothing one way or the other.

For me, it leaves us at:
-it COULD be a manipulated image we've all seen
-it could NOT be such

Which puts us back to zero as in where it all began - no birth certificate.

I would need to be given the aithority of the highest level of government auditor, & go into thsat Honolulu hospital's database & look it up myself, using my own methodology (not the normal/expected one), before I could weigh in honesdtly one way or the other. . .

So since thart's not going to happenm; it's a non-issue for me.

I well understand that fact & truth now is whatever people can be convinced it is.

Even in the little things like the word "literally" which has always had a meaning consistent with its etymology, but now is most commonly used the exact opposite way. Don't evebn try to point it out, becaiuse nobody will accept it & they'll turm on YOU for being an idiot.

Your friend,

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Fri Nov 05 2021 10:39 am

i dont give a shit what the situation was. he was president and he no longer is president. all i'm saying is i saw a person on tv manipulate the document that anybody could download. if it was a true scan you couldnt manipulate it.

Of course you could. I'm no graphics desiugner -- no training of any kind; only use tools I googled up & I can manipulate any document you give me! I can even redate it to the original creation date!

you didn't read what i said.

in the document first released, you could lift up the elements and move them around and see behind them because they werent rasterized
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 04 2021 23:23:16

OK so let's just forget about all the BLM and ANTIFA riots the killed many, Injured many many more, burnt buildings, destroyed Businesses.
Funny how you jackasses never mention that but you're fixated on one day in Jan.

Over in the fido politics forum, the difference is usually explained by "the summer riots didn't target the capital or federal buildings." When you point out that the rioters in the Pacific NW often targeted a federal building, it is again defended by "but they didn't manage to get in."

So it is more OK if you want to storm a federal building but don't actually make it in I guess.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dumas Walker to Denn on Fri Nov 05 2021 04:04 pm

Over in the fido politics forum, the difference is usually explained by "the summer riots didn't target the capital or federal buildings." When you point out that the rioters in the Pacific NW often targeted a federal building, it is again defended by "but they didn't manage to get in."

So it is more OK if you want to storm a federal building but don't actually make it in I guess.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Fri Nov 05 2021 11:45 am

So if the Election was stolen I blame Republicans for not fighting.

They stormed the White House. That's not fighting?

That was a friendly tourist group, if you ask the republican
lawmakers hiding behind the capital security forces, not a group
of insurrectionists trying to disrupt the election process.

OK so let's just forget about all the BLM and ANTIFA riots the killed
many, Injured many many more, burnt buildings, destroyed Businesses.
Funny how you jackasses never mention that but you're fixated on one
day in Jan.
BTW the capitol police officer that shot an unarmed woman and got off
scott

they were pretty much a friendly tourist group in compairson to the blm riots. they even walked within the ropes. they didn't attack the police.

That is true.

poindexter is so full of shit his eyes are brown.

and his breath stinks to i'll bet lol.

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Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Fri Nov 05 2021 11:46 am

The PRN testing they're doing to test for Covid is highly inaccurate
with many false posatives, that's why late this year or early next
year it's being replaced by a more accurate test.

yeah i remember the early tests were all coming back positive. even the people who didn't show up for the tests tested positive. :D

Yep, and many deaths according to the CDC website listed as Covid were heart attacks, strokes and other types of deaths.

... People will buy anything that's one to a customer.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Fri Nov 05 2021 11:49 am

In the USA, we had an issue in the 1970s with the Ford Pinto.
Because of design flaws in the gas tank filler, the filler could
separate and the car explode in a rear-end collision.

Ford could recall all of the cars, bringing down media scrutiny and

boy you really have no original thoughts, do you? i have heard
liberals repeat this shit for decades.

Hey the brite side of the ford Pinto issues was I once bought a decent
Pinto for $50

there's a guy explaining this to a young michael moore. he said the people pretty much knew they were buying a cheap fucking car. they shouldn't have expected a high safety rating for a car of that design.

i knew people that collected pintos and their car never exploded.

They were good running cars, great on gas to.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Dumas Walker to Denn on Fri Nov 05 2021 04:04 pm

OK so let's just forget about all the BLM and ANTIFA riots the killed
many, Injured many many more, burnt buildings, destroyed Businesses.
Funny how you jackasses never mention that but you're fixated on one
day in Jan.

Over in the fido politics forum, the difference is usually explained by "the summer riots didn't target the capital or federal buildings." When you point out that the rioters in the Pacific NW often targeted a federal building, it is again defended by "but they didn't manage to get in."

6 Times they asked for enhanced security, 6 times they were denied.

So it is more OK if you want to storm a federal building but don't actually make it in I guess.

It's that double elitist standard of the left.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Fri Nov 05 2021 10:39 am

i dont give a shit what the situation was. he was president and he no longer is president. all i'm saying is i saw a person on tv manipulate the document that anybody could download. if it was a true scan you couldnt manipulate it.

Of course you could. I'm no graphics desiugner -- no training of any kind; only use tools I googled up & I can manipulate any document you give me! I can even redate it to the original creation date!

you didn't read what i said.

in the document first released, you could lift up the elements and move them around and see behind them because they werent rasterized

You were seeing a COPY of the original. I have no idea what scanning the original in did to the elements recognized by the scanner software, but it's not unreasonable to consider this.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Wed Nov 03 2021 05:38 pm

dude those are one and the same.

A baby can be born overseas to two parents who are both natural birth Americans & it is a natural born American, too. . .

So there you have citizenship without being born in the USA.

The relevant department in Hawaii has produced Obama's Hawaiian birth cert9ficate, proving hwe was born there on the date his parents claim.

You don't think Trump might have been a little biased & agenda-focused in his attacks on Obama?

i dont give a shit what the situation was. he was president and he no longer is president. all i'm saying is i saw a person on tv manipulate the document that anybody could download. if it was a true scan you couldnt manipulate it.

I could take a true scan & make a copy with manipulation-possible elemenmts, then go on tv & discredit an actual true copy. You know we're in the 22nd century, right?

You've still not made referehnce to any fact that discredits the vaccines.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Sun Nov 07 2021 12:25 pm

in the document first released, you could lift up the elements and move them around and see behind them because they werent rasterized

You were seeing a COPY of the original. I have no idea what scanning the

NO.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: Cyberpope to MRO on Sun Nov 07 2021 12:42 pm

the document that anybody could download. if it was a true scan you couldnt manipulate it.

I could take a true scan & make a copy with manipulation-possible elemenmts, then go on tv & discredit an actual true copy. You know we're in the 22nd century, right?

you're talking out your ass.

You've still not made referehnce to any fact that discredits the vaccines.

thats another subject, not related to this.
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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:13 pm

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

They did find one from Hawaii who knows if it was real or not?
Hillary would've done almost anything to be the 1st Woman President.

And she should have been. Who knows when we'll see a Woman Prez Now? I can't think of anyone I'd vote for. Oh yea.. Nancy is the top contender for the job. Gag! Spew..Barf! omg nooooooo

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Nov 09 2021 09:47 pm

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert.
i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who
traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the
timeframe.

They did find one from Hawaii who knows if it was real or not?
Hillary would've done almost anything to be the 1st Woman President.

And she should have been. Who knows when we'll see a Woman Prez Now? I can't think of anyone I'd vote for. Oh yea.. Nancy is the top contender for the job. Gag! Spew..Barf! omg nooooooo

Nancy Pelosi seems Drunk 99.9% of the time, her mind must be pickeled, her new nickname is Pickleosi.

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Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Nov 09 2021 09:47 pm

Re: Re: So who's refusing to get
By: MRO to Denn on Wed Nov 03 2021 06:13 pm

i dont care if obama was a citizen. he should have a birth cert. i think what the issue was is his mother was a flake who traveled all over and didn't get him a birth cert in the timeframe.

They did find one from Hawaii who knows if it was real or not?
Hillary would've done almost anything to be the 1st Woman President.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOT ME

And she should have been. Who knows when we'll see a Woman Prez Now? I can't think of anyone I'd vote for. Oh yea.. Nancy is the top contender for the job. Gag! Spew..Barf! omg nooooooo

|07 HusTler

you really need to pay attention.
you do this all the time.

you quote other people's shit and reply to the wrong person.

figure it out already.
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