(including water, juice, soda, beer, etc.), a small price is added to each container, and when you drop off your containers to a recycling center, you get that money back. It used to be 5 cents per container, but several years ago they raised it to 10 cents.
What I think is silly is that we've had curbside recycling for a long time now. It would be easier to just put the containers in our curbside recycling for the recyclers to come pick it up. We still could, but then we'd lose that money we paid per container. So they're adding an inconvenience for us to have to drop off the containers somewhere to get that money back.
Does the place you live have any stupid laws like that?
Nightfox wrote to All <=-
The state where I live (Oregon) has had a beverage bottle/can deposit
for a long time. It's supposed to encourage recycling.
The state where I live (Oregon) has had a beverage bottle/can
deposit for a long time. It's supposed to encourage recycling.
Now, it's a tax - not a deposit. It used to be that you returned the cans/bottles to the grocery store that collected the deposit and they refunded it. They were then compensated by the state.
Now, you have to go to one of the recycling centers, most of which are now closed. So, people end up paying the deposit, not getting paid back, and recycling through the weekly pickup.
Nightfox wrote to All <=-
The state where I live (Oregon) has had a beverage bottle/can deposit for a long time. It's supposed to encourage recycling.
Now, it's a tax - not a deposit. It used to be that you returned the cans/bottles to the grocery store that collected the deposit and they refunded it. They were then compensated by the state.
Now, you have to go to one of the recycling centers, most of which are now closed. So, people end up paying the deposit, not getting paid back, and recycling through the weekly pickup.
Nightfox wrote to All <=-
Does the place you live have any stupid laws like that?
The state where I live (Oregon) has had a beverage bottle/can deposit for a long time. It's
supposed to encourage recycling. What happens is, the law in the state of Oregon requires that
when buying any bottled beverages (including water, juice, soda, beer, etc.), a small price is
added to each container, and when you drop off your containers to a recycling center, you get th
money back. It used to be 5 cents per container, but several years ago they raised it to 10 cen
What I think is silly is that we've had curbside recycling for a long time now. It would be easi
to just put the containers in our curbside recycling for the recyclers to come pick it up. We
still could, but then we'd lose that money we paid per container. So they're adding an
inconvenience for us to have to drop off the containers somewhere to get that money back.
Does the place you live have any stupid laws like that?
Nightfox
I consider it a stupid law because it really doesn't address the issue. We used to have lots of PSAs about not littering (remember the indian crying?). You'd think with the tree huggers in power, we'd be seeing more of that, but no.
Subject: Re: Beverage container deposits
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Nightfox wrote to All <=-
The state where I live (Oregon) has had a beverage bottle/can deposit for a long time. It's supposed to encourage recycling.
Now, it's a tax - not a deposit. It used to be that you returned the cans/bottles to the grocery store that collected the deposit and they refunded it. They were then compensated by the state.
Now, you have to go to one of the recycling centers, most of which are now closed. So, people end up paying the deposit, not getting paid back, and recycling through the weekly pickup.
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Nightfox wrote to All <=-
Does the place you live have any stupid laws like that?
Oh, ya.
The intent is to make it worthwhile to pick up (or simply not drop) that can And I can see that. I don't see nearly as much container trash as I used to so I guess it works.
Whether it's worth it or not is a question I can't answer because I don't kn what the costs are to the stores to do this.
Maybe they could put a deposit on all those useless, discarded masks I keep seeing.
I consider it a stupid law because it really doesn't address the issue. We used to have lots of PSAs about not littering (remember the indian crying?). You'd think with the tree huggers in power, we'd be seeing more of that, but no.
In my area, it would be easier to just:
1. Add more trash cans in public areas. Make it as easy as possible to disp of that trash - not just bottles/cans.
2. Write more littering tickets. Which is cheaper, holding on to that empty for a few minutes, or risk getting a $100 fine?
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I have always wondered what happened to all of those PSAs. It used to be a law, I think, that radio and TV broadcasters had to run so many PSAs. Now it seems like all the PSAs are about keeping guns locked up and that is about it. No more crying indian or "give a hoot, don't pollute." It has been a long time since I have even seen a Smokey Bear PSA.
The Ad Council, which does a lot of the traditional PSAs seems to be forced to actually purchase ad time to get any kind of PSA on the air.
You don't see PSAs anymore For the same reason that news programs are now basic
lly profit-generating machines. FCC rules about television stations having to o
erate "in the public interest" have been relaxed and/or completely done away wi
h. IIRC, broadcast stations had a requirement to dedicate a certain amount of >heir broadcast day to public interest/awareness. Now stations have no such req
irement.
The Ad Council, which does a lot of the traditional PSAs seems to be forced to >ctually purchase ad time to get any kind of PSA on the air.
I am guessing that OTA stations/networks used cable as the reason to get out of the "in the public interest" rules, or that maybe it was in exchange for the E/I requirement.
Many of the bottle/can collections at grocery stores here have been closed on and off due to covid. There's a chain of bottle recyclers that are open though. But for them, you have to make an account with them, buy their special bags (and stickers to go on the bags to identify you), and they charge a fee of something like 8% for their service. And one might choose not to bother with all of that..
I am guessing that OTA stations/networks used cable as the reason to get out of the "in the public interest" rules, or that maybe it was in exchange for the E/I requirement.
I'm pretty sure it was a governmental push for "deregulation" that was the prim
ary catalyst, that probably didn't help either.
In N.Y. we used to have bottle and can machines that crushed your cans and bottles and spit out a reciept. You brought the receipt to a cashier and they paid you the amount on the receipt. Those machines are long gone so yeah, we all pay for "deposits" now. Nobody cares about recycling anymore.
I feel like broadcasters were more accountable before this deregulation happened, and we were all probably better off for it.
The state where I live (Oregon) has had a beverage bottle/can deposit
for a long time. It's supposed to encourage recycling. What happens
is, the law in the state of Oregon requires that when buying any
bottled beverages (including water, juice, soda, beer, etc.), a small price is added to each container, and when you drop off your containers
to a recycling center, you get that money back. It used to be 5 cents
per container, but several years ago they raised it to 10 cents.
What I think is silly is that we've had curbside recycling for a long
time now. It would be easier to just put the containers in our curbside recycling for the recyclers to come pick it up. We still could, but
then we'd lose that money we paid per container. So they're adding an inconvenience for us to have to drop off the containers somewhere to
get that money back.
Does the place you live have any stupid laws like that?
The two States I have lived in use to have a Deposit on Glass Soft
Drink Bottles and Glass Beer Bottles but that was long ago.
I thought what I paid him, I would get back at the Store but found
out the one Beer Bottle didn't get the same refund as all of the
Soft Drink Bottles do.
I got One Cent less for that Beer Bottle.
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Re: Beverage container deposi
By: Ed Vance to Nightfox on Tue Oct 05 2021 09:44 pm
The two States I have lived in use to have a Deposit on Glass Soft
Drink Bottles and Glass Beer Bottles but that was long ago.
Here it's not just glass soda & beer bottles - it's all beverage
bottles and cans, including soda, beer, water, juice, etc..
I thought what I paid him, I would get back at the Store but found
out the one Beer Bottle didn't get the same refund as all of the
Soft Drink Bottles do.
I got One Cent less for that Beer Bottle.
Weird.. The deposit here was 5 cents for a long time, and a couple
years ago, it was raised to 10 cents. It's the same for all bottles,
and there hasn't been a 1-cent difference for any of them.
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