Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 27.01.21 - 08:14, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I already have my outfacing window plastered with the
international symbols for "no food or drink", "no toilet
paper", and "no public toilet". Perhaps I should add the one
for "no soliciting".

Don't forget to add "No loose change for the parkimeter"

No parking meters on our rural streets.

I don't mind helping people out if they are short of change for
a purchase (I keep about $10 of spare change to cover that).
I've paid the cab fair to send people home too.

I'm pretty sure I posted a picture in one of the echoes of the
signs on my neighbor's shop door. I'll get a fresh picture and
post that; there is NEW stuff since last time.


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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Jan 27 2021 11:44 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 27.01.21 - 08:14, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I already have my outfacing window plastered with the
international symbols for "no food or drink", "no toilet
paper", and "no public toilet". Perhaps I should add the one
for "no soliciting".

Don't forget to add "No loose change for the parkimeter"

No parking meters on our rural streets.

I don't mind helping people out if they are short of change for
a purchase (I keep about $10 of spare change to cover that).
I've paid the cab fair to send people home too.

I'm pretty sure I posted a picture in one of the echoes of the
signs on my neighbor's shop door. I'll get a fresh picture and
post that; there is NEW stuff since last time.

The problem here is that my business is the last open business in this street, and the area is loaded with parking meters. So
lots of people end up walking up to my shop because they want change.

A good percentage of them are actually trying to pass me counterfeit money.

Most of these people never end up making a purchase.

If it was only 1 or 2 I would not mind, since it is a lot of people I risk having my change depleted so it is a no-no.

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No parking meters on our rural streets.

There usually are not any on US rural streets, either, unless you are in a rural town.


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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Jan 27 2021 11:44 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 27.01.21 - 08:14, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

I already have my outfacing window plastered with the
international symbols for "no food or drink", "no toilet
paper", and "no public toilet". Perhaps I should add the one
for "no soliciting".

Don't forget to add "No loose change for the parkimeter"

No parking meters on our rural streets.

I don't mind helping people out if they are short of change for
a purchase (I keep about $10 of spare change to cover that).
I've paid the cab fair to send people home too.

I'm pretty sure I posted a picture in one of the echoes of the
signs on my neighbor's shop door. I'll get a fresh picture and
post that; there is NEW stuff since last time.

i help people out all the time. most of the time they pay me back. i even buy groceries for people and all kinds of shit you woudlnt believe.

but i can not STAND an able bodied person who is a beggar. it makes me angry. my mom was a single mom and i grew up with nothing and she made it. i went through some rough times during the recessions and i never had to beg for anything. i went without.

i usually go tell them to suck some dicks. when it gets warm out here kids with brand new iphones stand near the interstate exits with signs begging for money. i had one disgusting guy creep up behind me in a restaurant when i was on a date. "siiiRRRRR can i have some channnnnnge???" i told him walmart down the street is hiring [and they were, they cant get enough people to work there].

it was gross because we went up behind me like fucking joe biden
creeping up to sniff my hair or whisper sweet nothings in my ear. i'm getting chills thinking about it.
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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: Arelor to Ogg on Thu Jan 28 2021 05:27 am

Most of these people never end up making a purchase.

If it was only 1 or 2 I would not mind, since it is a lot of people I risk having my change depleted so it is a no-no.

do you guys have those smart meters yet that take credit cards? we just go them in my home city.
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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 28.01.21 - 05:27, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

The problem here is that my business is the last open
business in this street, and the area is loaded with parking
meters. Solots of people end up walking up to my shop
because they want change.

Sounds like a modern district then. I was picturing the quaint,
ancient, dark, narrow, foggy streets depicted in "The Shadow of
the Wind"

A good percentage of them are actually trying to pass me
counterfeit money.

If it's counterfeit, I hope you're not handing it back to them!
Here in Canada, we are to retain those bills and submit them to
authorities. But I can see the dilema and a potential scuffle
arising - unless I have my handy sycthe.

I can't seem to find pictures of Spanish bills. Have not your
country's bills been upgraded to the poly-version and multiple
colours and holograms?

I also get a fair share of people who hand over $50 or $100
bills and want smaller bills instead. That sort of pisses me off
- especially when there are 3 banks within walking distance.
Unless they are drug dealers or something, why are they in
possession of those large bills in the first place if they don't
want them?

Most of these people never end up making a purchase.

I think you have the right idea of "no coins for parking meters"
- UNLESS they make a minimum $5 purchase or something.

Do they grab a business card?

I hate it when people take by business cards as if it was free
notepaper.

I would get people popping in asking for directions or for "the
best place to eat". Directions are easy, but for places to eat
that was tricky because I never went to any of them! :D

I still get the odd person showing up with the urgent need to
use a bathroom - it's the SAME people - and they never buy
anything. On the way out, one of them asks me to use my phone
to make calls too. :/

If it was only 1 or 2 I would not mind, since it is a lot of
people I risk having my change depleted so it is a no-no.

I used to "sell" quarters and dimes to students in my university
residence. People would need extra dimes for the laundry
machines and extra quarters for the arcade machines on weekends
and evenings. I always tried to make sure I had plenty of rolls
of each. I'd try to garnish about 5% - 10%


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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: MRO to Arelor on Thu Jan 28 2021 05:01 pm

Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet┬╖paper"
By: Arelor to Ogg on Thu Jan 28 2021 05:27 am

Most of these people never end up making a purchase.

If it was only 1 or 2 I would not mind, since it is a lot of people I risk having my change depleted so it is a no-no.

do you guys have those smart meters yet that take credit cards? we just go them in my home city.

I refuse to pay for parking myself so I am not familiar with the machines themselves. It is a protection racket like everything
the town hall does, and they expand the parking-metered area every year. They'll get my parking money when they start using the
public's money for what it is intended instead of smoking it.

I know, however, that you can pay the parking with a mobile app nowadays.

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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Jan 28 2021 10:45 pm

The problem here is that my business is the last open
business in this street, and the area is loaded with parking
meters. Solots of people end up walking up to my shop
because they want change.

Sounds like a modern district then. I was picturing the quaint,
ancient, dark, narrow, foggy streets depicted in "The Shadow of
the Wind"

You are not wrong: it is an old neighbourhood, foggy and by the river.

It is just they are putting parking meters everywhere :-(

I have less of a counterfeit problem now that itinerant markets are banned due to covid. It was always the itinerant sales
people who were trying to pass me counterfeits. Also counterfeit perfume and soap. Then gypsies complain that everybody
associates them with counterfeits HAHAHAHAHAHA.

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On 01-29-21 03:37, Arelor wrote to MRO <=-

I know, however, that you can pay the parking with a mobile app
nowadays.

Here, you can pay for parking with coins, credit/debi card or phone app. Plenty of choices. )


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On 31 Jan 2021, Vk3jed said the following...

Here, you can pay for parking with coins, credit/debi card or phone app. P of choices. )

We just got paying with a phone app for parking meters here in my city. Then shortly after they were installed there was a "controversy" because the data for the app was bring processed/stored in the US.

https://bit.ly/3j2mmiq

I don't usually park anywhere that required me to pay & if I do I keep some spare change in my car for just such an occasion. It's usually cheaper to drop a couple of coins in the machine than paying with the app anyway.


Jay

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Hello Arelor!

** On Friday 29.01.21 - 04:23, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

Sounds like a modern district then. I was picturing the
quaint, ancient, dark, narrow, foggy streets depicted in
"The Shadow of the Wind"

You are not wrong: it is an old neighbourhood, foggy and by
the river.

I was going to visit your farmacia to check an address and maybe
see if I can get a google streetview, but I can't seem to reach
your site:

https://www.lagranparafarmacia.es
(Sunday, Jan 31 2021 2:25p EST)

It is just they are putting parking meters everywhere :-(

Is that a recent 2020-2021 activity? I guess covid thwarted the
advantage of doing all that.

I have less of a counterfeit problem now that itinerant
markets are banned due to covid. It was always the itinerant
sales people who were trying to pass me counterfeits. Also
counterfeit perfume and soap. Then gypsies complain that
everybody associates them with counterfeits HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Some groups have a reputation that they can't or won't ever seem
to avoid.

In the not too distant past, I would get street-salesmen come in
with samples of their wares. They would always be filled with
high hopes, energy and enthusiasm. Most of the time it would be
"junk" toys or gadgets. One time, someone was trying to peddle
books "that would be PERFECT for your shop!" they'd say. After,
checking the market for those titles, I could see that the
sales/interest ratings were low. In a way it was sad to see
their energy change after a rejection.

Apparently, I have to be careful with people passing me gov't
cheques that they want to cash. It is far harder to identify a
legitimate cheque than it is paper/poly currency.

I still get calls from people claiming to be the local police,
and asking me for my participation in a newsletter that they
circulate amongst their own kind. I'm thinking.. how would that
help ME if the newsletter is for THEM, and they probably don't
have time to read. I just brush them off by saying.."I'm sorry,
but [1] there is no way for me to confirm that I am speaking to
a legitimate officer", and [2] "I don't see how a small
circulation like your newsletter is a benefit to me." Then we
agree to hang up on each other. I'm thinking, "gypsies"?

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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Jan 31 2021 02:48 pm

circulate amongst their own kind. I'm thinking.. how would that
help ME if the newsletter is for THEM, and they probably don't
have time to read. I just brush them off by saying.."I'm sorry,
but [1] there is no way for me to confirm that I am speaking to
a legitimate officer", and [2] "I don't see how a small
circulation like your newsletter is a benefit to me." Then we
agree to hang up on each other. I'm thinking, "gypsies"?

i was a telemarketer and we thought we were fundraisers but as the months went on we saw that we were a company that people hired to make money for them. when they would donate they would get a bill and a packet. i dont know if my company did that or the one that hired us.

anyways, we werent calling for an association of firefighters or vietnam vets or some type of lost children organization.

best thing to do is be nice and ask to be taken off their list.
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On 01-31-21 16:20, Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-

We just got paying with a phone app for parking meters here in my city.
Then shortly after they were installed there was a "controversy"
because the data for the app was bring processed/stored in the US.

Hmm, OK.

I don't usually park anywhere that required me to pay & if I do I keep some spare change in my car for just such an occasion. It's usually cheaper to drop a couple of coins in the machine than paying with the
app anyway.

I know a few good spots with free parking around town, though one of them was converted to paid parking during the height of COVID restrictions. The local council also updated a lot of parking meters and expanded the coverage of app payments significantly.


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Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Jan 31 2021 02:48 pm

I was going to visit your farmacia to check an address and maybe
see if I can get a google streetview, but I can't seem to reach
your site:

https://www.lagranparafarmacia.es
(Sunday, Jan 31 2021 2:25p EST)

I have just checked the site and logs and everything looks fine.

I was doing some maintenance in the front end around that time (because let's be honest, I don't get orders Saturday or Sunday afternoon) so maybe you just happened to
hit it.

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Hello Mro!

** On Sunday 31.01.21 - 21:20, MRO wrote to Ogg:

best thing to do is be nice and ask to be taken off their
list.

I *try* to be nice, but I am also a little peeved that people
(if they are legit) make calls like that while we are in the
midst of this pandemic when many businesses are going into more
debt and there is no money to spend on silly localized
newsletters.

I got a call from the local golf course just one month ago
trying to sell me advertising space on their score sheets.

Give me a break!

Granted, some printing projects need to be planned in advance.
But in the midst of a lockdown and restricted public gatherings,
I really have to doubt that a friggin score sheet is going to
give me sales. Meanwhile, they are already scouting for money 6
months before the golfing season even starts. Sheeesh.

I can print a quality gift certificate on the fly from my laser
printer. A golf business should have no problem printing a score
sheet with my ad (should I choose to participate) minutes before
they need them. Scraping funds from struggling businesses 6
months in advance of a summer that will probably still have
heavy restrictions is pathetic.

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Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't usually park anywhere that required me to pay & if I do I keep some spare change in my car for just such an occasion. It's usually cheaper to drop a couple of coins in the machine than paying with the
app anyway.

Some of the apps here have a "convenience" fee, as well. Good reason to
carry a gum container full of change in your glove box.

I miss ash trays in cars - they could be a handy place to store change.


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Vk3jed wrote to Warpslide <=-

I know a few good spots with free parking around town, though one of
them was converted to paid parking during the height of COVID restrictions. The local council also updated a lot of parking meters
and expanded the coverage of app payments significantly.

Back in the first dot-com boom in 1999-2001, there was a block right under
the freeway, near the entrance to the Bay bridge. The entrance was through
one of the onramps to the bridge. It was probably the only block with
parking and no 2-hour residential permit parking OR parking meters. You had
to know where it was, otherwise you were in Oakland.

We could park all day long, every day, whereas other people were either parking in lots or feeding meters.


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Re: Re: "no food or drink", "no toilet·paper"
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Warpslide on Mon Feb 01 2021 06:50 am

with the app anyway.

Some of the apps here have a "convenience" fee, as well. Good reason to carry a gum container full of change in your glove box.

I miss ash trays in cars - they could be a handy place to store change.

all the cars i know have a change thing right by where your usb, aux and power hookups are. also i have one in my console on my right. it hangs above the deeper storage on a ledge.
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On 02-01-21 06:52, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Back in the first dot-com boom in 1999-2001, there was a block right
under the freeway, near the entrance to the Bay bridge. The entrance
was through one of the onramps to the bridge. It was probably the only block with parking and no 2-hour residential permit parking OR parking meters. You had to know where it was, otherwise you were in Oakland.

That's a clever hidden parking lot. :)


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On 01 Feb 2021, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

I don't usually park anywhere that required me to pay & if I do I kee some spare change in my car for just such an occasion. It's usually cheaper to drop a couple of coins in the machine than paying with the app anyway.

Some of the apps here have a "convenience" fee, as well. Good reason to carry a gum container full of change in your glove box.

Yeah, that's what I've noticed as well. Except here they don't show it as an added fee. Depending on where you park the price is different per hour (or per 30 minutes) - Where we parked last the price on the meter was $1 per hour but the price in the app was $1.50 per hour.


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Warpslide wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

as an added fee. Depending on where you park the price is different
per hour (or per 30 minutes) - Where we parked last the price on the
meter was $1 per hour but the price in the app was $1.50 per hour.

Let's talk about surge pricing - charging more as less spaces are available. San Francisco has tried that with their smart parking meters, I suppose they all talk to each other.


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