THIS sounds a lot like what some Linux distros can do already.
This sounds almost akin to the Freedom Phone approach (someone
buying a bunch of USB sticks, loading an alternative OS on it)
and "liberating" people from the typical Windows and Mac
offerings. And, this one seems to require a subscription to
continue using it after a year.
Apparently, $39.99 (down from $79.99) will give you 1yr of
using an alternative OS from a USB stick.
THIS sounds a lot like what some Linux distros can do already.
Hello All!
Anyone hear of this before?
StartMeStick Plug-in Operating System, Unlimited Use on
Unlimited PCs and Macs, 1 Year
https://www.staples.ca/products/2977682-en-startmestick- private-computing-device-for-unlimited-pcs-or-macs-1-year
https://tinyurl.com/yfnt9kdl
Apparently, $39.99 (down from $79.99) will give you 1yr of
using an alternative OS from a USB stick.
THIS sounds a lot like what some Linux distros can do already.
This sounds almost akin to the Freedom Phone approach (someone
buying a bunch of USB sticks, loading an alternative OS on it)
and "liberating" people from the typical Windows and Mac
offerings. And, this one seems to require a subscription to
continue using it after a year.
Apparently, $39.99 (down from $79.99) will give you 1yr of
using an alternative OS from a USB stick.
THIS sounds a lot like what some Linux distros can do already.
that is exactly what it does. BUT you have to pay a subscription.
it IS a linux distro. i'm not even sure if this is legal.
addresses this in its FAQ, where it makes the case that rather than collect data about you and sell it (as Facebook and others do), it can know nothing about you and collect the fees instead.
When put in that context, it's an understandable trade, but still a bit
that is exactly what it does. BUT you have to pay a subscription.
it IS a linux distro. i'm not even sure if this is legal.
Why would it be illegal? RedHat charges a subscription for support for thei Linux distro. I don't really see this as much different. As far as I know, there isn't a law against this..
that is exactly what it does. BUT you have to pay a subscription.
it IS a linux distro. i'm not even sure if this is legal.
Why would it be illegal? RedHat charges a subscription for support for their Linux distro. I don't really see this as much different. As far as I know, there isn't a law against this..
Nightfox wrote to Ogg <=-
Software subscriptions is something I'd rather move away from.
I've been a little worried Microsoft might do that with Windows,
so I've considered switching to Linux. I don't want to use an OS
that requires a subscription.. If I can't pay for some reason,
then I wouldn't be able to use my PC. I'd like to be able to use
what I bought & paid for with my own money..
Re: StartMeStick Plug-in Operating System
By: Nightfox
Slackware makes money via Patreon and merchandise, and Slackware Inc. is registered as a for profit firm.
Recommend you take the plunge to Linux. That way you'll always be able
to use your system, and pay *ZERO* of your own money for it. :-)
Oh, and also not have to worry about viruses.
Re: StartMeStick Plug-in Operating System
By: Nightfox
Slackware makes money via Patreon and merchandise, and Slackware Inc. is registered as a for profit firm.
I remember some controversy with the Slackware merch store. I was worried that Slack's days were numbered
I would love to see Slackware as a bootable USB,.
Re: StartMeStick Plug-in Operating System
By: Nightfox
Slackware makes money via Patreon and merchandise, and Slackware Inc. is registered as a for profit firm.
I remember some controversy with the Slackware merch store. I was worried t Slack's days were numbered
I would love to see Slackware as a bootable USB,.
Re: Re: StartMeStick Plug-in Operating System
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Sat Jul 31 2021 08:28 pm
Recommend you take the plunge to Linux. That way you'll always be able to use your system, and pay *ZERO* of your own money for it. :-)
Oh, and also not have to worry about viruses.
I'm not sure if the virus thing is really true.. I imagine Linux just has m fewer viruses because Windows tends to be targeted more because so many user use Windows. I doubt Linux is free of vulnerabilities.
Nightfox
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Recommend you take the plunge to Linux. That way you'll always be able
to use your system, and pay *ZERO* of your own money for it. :-)
Oh, and also not have to worry about viruses.
I'm not sure if the virus thing is really true.. I imagine Linux
just has much fewer viruses because Windows tends to be targeted
more because so many users use Windows. I doubt Linux is free of vulnerabilities.
I'm not sure if the virus thing is really true.. I imagine Linux just has much fewer viruses because Windows tends to be targeted more because so many users use Windows. I doubt Linux is free of vulnerabilities.
Linux has two huge advantages over Windows, though:
1) Not as much garbage from hardware vendors. The amount of malware
that ships with drivers and utility software on Windows is frightening. There have been cases of manufacturers (e.g., Lenovo) SHIPPING brand
new computers pre-loaded with malware. On Windows it's hard to get away from malware that comes straight from the manufacturer.
2) You almost always install software from the official repository on
most Linux distributions. How do you install software on Windows?
Do a Google search for it, click on the most legit-looking page, hope
it's actually legit, download an .exe/.msi and blindly run it? Yikes.
That process is practically DESIGNED to give you malware.
The "store" model (which, sadly, Canonical is trying out) doesn't seem
to be much better at keeping out malware. I've not seen any software distribution system that works in practice as well as a hand-curated repository.
Ksource wrote to Nightfox <=-
The "store" model (which, sadly, Canonical is trying out) doesn't seem
to be much better at keeping out malware. I've not seen any software distribution system that works in practice as well as a hand-curated repository.
Are there examples of Ubuntu's store delivering malware? The volunteer nature of Linux repositories does make me nervous at times (although
I've never stopped using them)
Are there examples of Ubuntu's store delivering malware? The volunteer nature of Linux repositories does make me nervous at times (although
I've never stopped using them)
Re: Re: StartMeStick Plug-in
By: Mr Ned to Ksource on Mon Aug 02 2021 07:26 pm
Are there examples of Ubuntu's store delivering malware? The volunteer nature of Linux repositories does make me nervous at times (although I've never stopped using them)
Years ago I had a job interview, and the interviewer asked me what I thought of Linux.. He then shared his opinion, and he said he thought that since Linux was open-source, anyone could go in and put malware into the code, so he didn't trust it. And on the other hand, he felt like since Windows is maintained by a smaller group of people who are there to make money from it, they would try to make Windows as good as possible.
As far as I know, there are reviewers who review the code submitted for Linux. It's not a free-for-all.. So I think there are safeguards in place to try to prevent malware from being submitted in the Linux code.
but they dont review the code. look at heartbleed and other shit
Re: Re: StartMeStick Plug-in
By: Mr Ned to Ksource on Mon Aug 02 2021 07:26 pm
Are there examples of Ubuntu's store delivering malware? The volunteer nature of Linux repositories does make me nervous at times (although I've never stopped using them)
Years ago I had a job interview, and the interviewer asked me what I thought Linux.. He then shared his opinion, and he said he thought that since Linux was open-source, anyone could go in and put malware into the code, so he did trust it. And on the other hand, he felt like since Windows is maintained b smaller group of people who are there to make money from it, they would try make Windows as good as possible.
As far as I know, there are reviewers who review the code submitted for Linu It's not a free-for-all.. So I think there are safeguards in place to try t prevent malware from being submitted in the Linux code.
Nightfox
As far as I know, there are reviewers who review the code submitted for Linux. It's not a free-for-all.. So I think there are safeguards in plac to try to prevent malware from being submitted in the Linux code.
but they dont review the code. look at heartbleed and other shit
Years ago I had a job interview, and the interviewer asked me what I
thought Linux.. He then shared his opinion, and he said he thought
that since Linux was open-source, anyone could go in and put malware
into the code, so he did trust it. And on the other hand, he felt
like since Windows is maintained b smaller group of people who are
there to make money from it, they would try make Windows as good as
possible.
I hate that sort of interviewer because they want employees that agree with them, not employees that know the trade.
Code sent into the Linux kernel is read by someone before it is merged with the main code tree. The kernel mailing lists are a verbal gorefest of developers criticising somebody else's code and approaches. The quality standards for things that are not "core" is a bit lax though. The reasoning is that if if a GPU vendor sends a module for their graphic cards and their module sucks, it is the GPU vendor's problem - after all, the crappy code only kicks in if you try to run their cards.
The real danger is in distribution's repositories, since each distribution has its set of policies and may or may not check for evil software sent in by volunteers. This is why I like the Slackbuilds approach, since they want you to send a build script that makes a package out of the official source code of whatever you are packaging. This makes it easy to audit.
Re: Re: StartMeStick Plug-in
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 03 2021 11:01 am
but they dont review the code. look at heartbleed and other shit
It's possible for people to do a code review and still miss something. People are human. And obscure bugs could be caused by a combination of factors and could be easy to miss.
But also if you believe conspiracies, I've heard some people say things like heartbleed where put in (or left in) on purpose..
Re: Re: StartMeStick Plug-in
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 03 2021 11:01 am
As far as I know, there are reviewers who review the code submitted for Linux. It's not a free-for-all.. So I think there are safeguards in plac to try to prevent malware from being submitted in the Linux code.
but they dont review the code. look at heartbleed and other shit
I think you mean they don't audit it properly, which is a fair concern for some components.
As far as I know, there are reviewers who review the code submitted for Linux. It's not a free-for-all.. So I think there are safeguards in place to try to prevent malware from being submitted in the Linux code.
but they dont review the code. look at heartbleed and other shit
Re: Re: StartMeStick Plug-in
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Aug 03 2021 11:01 am
As far as I know, there are reviewers who review the code submitted for Linux. It's not a free-for-all.. So I think there are safeguards in place to try to prevent malware from being submitted in the Linux code.
but they dont review the code. look at heartbleed and other shit
1. Heartbleed was a bug in OpenSSL, not Linux
2. OpenSSL has been contributed to and reviewed by *many* people and organizations after the bug was introduced into the code in December 2011. The bug wasn't noticed until April of 2014.
3. All software (of any significance) has flaws, including reviewed software --
Nightfox wrote to Mr Ned <=-
Years ago I had a job interview, and the interviewer asked me what I thought of Linux.. He then shared his opinion, and he said he thought that since Linux was open-source, anyone could go in and put malware
into the code, so he didn't trust it.
Sounds more like the corporate IT management I used to know who would parrot the FUD that their vendors repeated. Linux won't buy you tickets to the sports game or take you out to lunch at the fancy restaurant down the street from the office.
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