What I found most interesting though.. is that many of thoseHow do you know they're not fully vacinated?
strangers were not wearing masks. I did not mind that myself;
legally I cannot extricate/remove someone if they choose to not
wear a mask, and still want to browse or purchase something.
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
Hello All,
Today marked "day 1" of the beginning of the lifting of the
"stay at home" order in Ontario. Being in a tourist town that
serves as a gateway to cottage destinations, *and* being a
Friday, my town was jam-packed with vehicles pouring through
all day.
I operate a small bookshop along the main street. After
several months of just languishing at the shop and just waiting
for closing time in the months prior, today seemed like the
first day I had to actually do any work, such as being civil to
strangers.
What I found most interesting though.. is that many of those
strangers were not wearing masks. I did not mind that myself;
legally I cannot extricate/remove someone if they choose to not
wear a mask, and still want to browse or purchase something.
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
What I found most interesting though.. is that many of those
strangers were not wearing masks. I did not mind that myself;
How do you know they're not fully vacinated?
When the Government claimed emergency powers, everybody
pissed their pants and started being extra careful. When
the government gave emergency powers up, everybody started
flooding the streets, just as if the state of emergency and
the pandemic ere the same thing, and the government giving
up was the signal to start having wildnight parties again.
Today marked "day 1" of the beginning of the lifting of the
"stay at home" order in Ontario. Being in a tourist town that
serves as a gateway to cottage destinations, *and* being a
Friday, my town was jam-packed with vehicles pouring through
all day.
What I found most interesting though.. is that many of those
strangers were not wearing masks. I did not mind that myself;
legally I cannot extricate/remove someone if they choose to not
wear a mask, and still want to browse or purchase something.
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
How do you know they're not fully vacinated?
John Guillory
I haven't heard of wildnight parties yet.. but stories of such
should surface in the media after this weekend is over, for
sure - if only to still stir the fears that "gatherings" (of
healthy people), and to be happy are a bad behaviour.
Ogg wrote to All <=-
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
Ogg wrote to All <=-
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
That doesn't bode well for COVID-21.
Re: covid go away day
By: Ogg to All on Fri Jun 11 2021 08:46 pm
What I found most interesting though.. is that many of thoseHow do you know they're not fully vacinated?
strangers were not wearing masks. I did not mind that myself;
legally I cannot extricate/remove someone if they choose to not
wear a mask, and still want to browse or purchase something.
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
enjoy it while it lasts. you will have another lock down probably.
and it wont do any good like all the others.
What I found most interesting though.. is that many of those
strangers were not wearing masks. I did not mind that myself;
legally I cannot extricate/remove someone if they choose to not
wear a mask, and still want to browse or purchase something.
But it is interesting that most people are treating this "day
1" as a kind of "covid days are over" thing and there is a
general sense of freedom regained.
what i find interesting is people think these masks and bandanas and gaitors actually work. they do not work. you can still smell through them, right? then that means they dont work. covid can get in there. also you can touch something with covid on it and touch your eye or whatever and there you are exposed.
masks were established to make people feel like they have control.
It appears as though "Freedom Day" in the UK has been delayed by 4 weeks or possibly outright cancelled. I have a feeling that the goverment will circumvent this by imposing a 'Health Passport' solution to allow those who have been vaccinated unrestricted movement.
what i find interesting is people think these masks and bandanas and gaitors actually work. they do not work. you can still smell through them, right? then that means they dont work. covid can get in there. also you
can touch something with covid on it and touch your eye or whatever and there you are exposed.
masks were established to make people feel like they have control.
Masks/gaitors/bandanas are meant to prevent water droplets from spreading out into the air from your respiratory system and/or your big mouth. There are loads of scientific studies performed over many years that show such things work.
Do they work as well as surgical masks? fuck no. but they do work better than nothing at all. Had everyone worn a mask any time they were out of their house that was at least 70% effective, our death rate would have been 10-25% of what it is now.
While yes, that's true, it turns out it's not the primary way Covid-19 is spread and it's far less likely to happen than was originally thought.
Also, how do you think that item got the coronavirus on it? That's right, someone not wearing a mask coughed, sneezed, or had a loud fucking phone conversation near it.
masks were established to make people feel like they have control.
Come on man, You're too smart to buy into the conspiracy theory bullshit. People create conspiracy theories like this because THEY want to feel like they have some kind of control.
my mom who religiously got the flu vaccine and got sick every year regardless died of covid despite wearing gloves and a mask. she even wore it in the house.
she died on her birthday christmas week.
[...]Today marked "day 1" of the beginning of the lifting of the
Friday, my town was jam-packed with vehicles pouring through
all day.
enjoy it while it lasts. you will have another lock down probably.
and it wont do any good like all the others.
what i find interesting is people think these masks and bandanas and gaitors actually work. they do not work. you can still smell through them, right? then that means they dont work. covid can get in there.
also you can touch something with covid on it and touch your eye or whatever and there you are exposed.
masks were established to make people feel like they have control.
I recall that news. Wearing the mask in one's own house seems
strange though. Maybe it goes to show how fear was successfully
cast upon some of the public. Perhaps the added stress of the
"bug on the lose" and "if you get it you will die" narrative
triggers the stress that actually contributes to poor health.
something from those people poking around your body and
infecting the internals. Likewise.. the covid mask wearer is
just helping to reduce the likely-hood of spreading the
contents of a cough or sneeze. Normal breathing does not
transmit that "thing".
It appears as though "Freedom Day" in the UK has been delayed by 4 weeks or possibly outright cancelled. I have a feeling that the goverment will circumvent this by imposing a 'Health Passport' solution to allow those who have been vaccinated unrestricted movement.
even a health passport wont do any good. they need to do a test on people right there whenever they touch ground. travel is our biggest enemy and what spreads shit over the world so quick.
things are not the same all over. there are bacterias and viruses here in the usa that respond well to treatment. there are variants overseas that have the opposite effect.
if we had some type of cheap instantaneous travel system we would all be wiped out in 10 years. the bugs would run rampant.
Re: covid go away day
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sun Jun 13 2021 06:46 pm
It appears as though "Freedom Day" in the UK has been delayed by 4 weeks or possibly outri
cancelled. I have a feeling that the goverment will circumvent this by imposing a 'Health
Passport' solution to allow those who have been vaccinated unrestricted movement.
even a health passport wont do any good. they need to do a test on people right there wheneve
they touch ground. travel is our biggest enemy and what spreads shit over the world so quic
things are not the same all over. there are bacterias and viruses here in the usa that respo
well to treatment. there are variants overseas that have the opposite effect.
if we had some type of cheap instantaneous travel system we would all be wiped out in 10 year
the bugs would run rampant.
Well if that's the case we just have to get on with living our lives. The elderly, along with
people who have serious pre-existing health conditions, should take extra precautions but everyo
else should eat healthy, exercise and make sure they have strong immune systems.
things are not the same all over. there are bacterias and viruses here in the usa that respond well to treatment. there are variants overseas that have the opposite effect.
if we had some type of cheap instantaneous travel system we would all be wiped out in 10 years. the bugs would run rampant.
Well if that's the case we just have to get on with living our lives. The elderly, along with people who have serious pre-existing health conditions, should take extra precautions but everyone else should eat healthy, exercise and make sure they have strong immune systems.
have so many bees and they chase the most favorable plantations for their bees. If in a given month the best sort of flower for the bees is X, they will move to a plantation where such flower is plentiful. Three months later that flower's season will be over, so they will cross the country looking for the next good flower in season. The end result is that the same set of hives ends up being loaded in a truck and travelling through the country multiple times per year.
This leads to itinerant hives getting parasytes and diseases that they end up passing to local bee populations, and vice versa.
yeah that's a great example. our bees are being 'farmed' excessively and we are
all paying the price. it's not natural.
if we had some type of cheap instantaneous travel system we would all be wiped out in 10 years. the bugs would run rampant.
Well if that's the case we just have to get on with living our lives. The elderly, along with people who have serious pre-existing health conditions, should take extra precautions but everyone else should eat healthy, exercise and make sure they have strong immune systems.
you're missing the point.
travel=bad
MRO brings a valid point. One of the reasons bees are so screwed up nowadays is precisely that we
humans are moving them around a whole lot. For more references, watch the documentary More than
Honey.
The issue is that apicultors need to keep their hives moving because they have so many bees and
they chase the most favorable plantations for their bees. If in a given month the best sort of
flower for the bees is X, they will move to a plantation where such flower is plentiful. Three
months later that flower's season will be over, so they will cross the country looking for the next
good flower in season. The end result is that the same set of hives ends up being loaded in a truck
and travelling through the country multiple times per year.
This leads to itinerant hives getting parasytes and diseases that they end up passing to local bee
populations, and vice versa.
travel=bad
I don't think you're giving the human immune system enough credit here. People have been travelling cross-continent for centuries and although we have seen various plagues we have never come across something that could threaten our entire existence as a species. As humans catch virusus and infections, our immune systems evolve and the species becomes stronger and more resistant to different strains and mutations.
Quoting Andeddu to Arelor <=-
Humans are also a problem to the bee population due to modern
pesticides which are very harmful along with GMO crops. It has been reported that CCD (colony collapse disorder) may be caused by
genetically engineered crops and plant-produced pesticides. It is also known in the US that honey bee colonies are being fed GE corn syrups
and genetically engineered food residues which are at least partly responsible for killing honeybees.
And assuming all the above is true, this should be a warning that
*maybe* genetically modifying our food is not a good idea. We need to do more to live with nature instead of bending and manipulating it to our
will. Having said that, I also feel it's too late. You can't take my computer(s) away from me and whatever deadly process we used to make
them. LOL :-)
~Elf
[...] GMO crops and powerful pesticides have played havok
with the eco-system. There is also the problem with GMO
seeds, which are patented, causing cross-pollincation with
other natural plants resulting in fines for organic crop
farmers.
The majority of our crops are contolled by very few
companies now and the last thing anyone should wish for is
a food monopoly/duopoly.
Farmers who purchase GMO seeds sign an agreemnt to purchase
new seed each year and MUST NOT save seeds from their crops
to plant the following year. It's quite unnatural and I am
against it as the corporations are in control rather than
the farmers themselves.
Wrt fines, the process of law should have protected the organic
grower, not the companies that plant their invasive gmo'd
variety next to the unassuming farmer's crops. I'm astonished
that the courts seem to side with the likes of Monsanto and
don't look at the issue of cross-pollination as an uncontrolled
consequence that cannot be pinned on the organic farmer.
I think there has been a growing awareness of the problem, and
more and more farmers are turning down contracts with the gmo
producers.
I think the reason to not use (or save) the seeds is that those
seeds are not necessarily as robust (full spec) as the
initially treated ones.
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