• Re: audio books.. game ch

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 5 14:33:00 2021
    It would be as if the MPAA developed a DVD format that wore out after a certain number of plays.

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on
    certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't
    put that past them.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu May 6 07:27:13 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 05 2021 02:33 pm

    It would be as if the MPAA developed a DVD format that wore out after a certain number of plays.

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past them.


    do people even use dvds anymore?
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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Thu May 6 09:10:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past them.

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without
    consuming too much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)

    Long live the DVD!!!!

    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector. :-)

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to MRO on Thu May 6 10:29:33 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu May 06 2021 07:27 am

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    My father-in-law. He believes that the government is tracking him when he uses a Blu-Ray that connects to the internet. I told him to remove the wireless configuration from his Blu-Ray player; he did. Afterwards, he told me that the Blu-Ray disk reactivates the wireless adapter.

    I give up.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elf on Thu May 6 13:10:36 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 09:10 am

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without consuming too much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)


    i just download it and delete it.


    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector. :-)

    projector? wtf
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu May 6 16:09:00 2021
    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past them.


    do people even use dvds anymore?

    I do but if they keep this up I will be looking to start torrenting things
    I want copies of.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ELF on Thu May 6 16:51:00 2021
    do people even use dvds anymore?

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without consuming too much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)

    I am starting to notice that the price for some DVDs is now higher than
    their blu-ray counterparts. Most still are not, though.


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Thu May 6 20:14:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Elf <=-

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without consuming too much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)


    i just download it and delete it.

    Yeah, I like to keep most.


    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector. :-)

    projector? wtf

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/epson-home-cinema-880-1080p-3lcd-projector- white/6428460.p?skuId=6428460&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=945&ref=212&loc=1 &ds_rl=1262659&gclsrc=ds

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to Dumas Walker on Thu May 6 20:17:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to ELF <=-

    I am starting to notice that the price for some DVDs is now higher than their blu-ray counterparts. Most still are not, though.

    Yeah, but I would have to first shell out for an internal BluRay player
    for my PC so I could rip those . . . I wonder for how much longer they
    will continue to make DVDs and BluRays. Until they stop, I'll keep
    collecting from DVDs...maybe BluRay later, but trying to avoid that for
    now. :-)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu May 6 22:35:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Thursday 06.05.21 - 07:27, MRO wrote to Dumas Walker:

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    I do. I don't have streaming services as an option. DVDs
    (purchased or my own burned discs) are the only solution for me.

    DVDs are also a fine way to share material with other people. A
    friend was looking for a collection episodes from a TV show
    available on YT, and some TED Talks on particular subjects. The
    DVD provided the medium to do that.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elf on Fri May 7 08:52:01 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 08:14 pm

    projector? wtf

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/epson-home-cinema-880-1080p-3lcd-projector- white/6428460.p?skuId=6428460&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=945&ref=212&loc=1 &ds_rl=1262659&gclsrc=ds

    why dont you just buy a large display? for the price of the projector and the screen you would come out better
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Fri May 7 08:53:52 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds anymore?
    By: Ogg to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 10:35 pm

    DVDs are also a fine way to share material with other people. A
    friend was looking for a collection episodes from a TV show
    available on YT, and some TED Talks on particular subjects. The
    DVD provided the medium to do that.

    usb flash drive?
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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to MRO on Fri May 7 06:20:00 2021
    ** On Thursday 06.05.21 - 07:27, MRO wrote to Dumas Walker:

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    I do, and I still have plenty of blanks to record on.

    Sometimes I use them to make install disks with such as the newer versions of Windows/Linux/etc. Sometimes I use them to burn videos I've streamed from lectures so I can have a copy offline as well.

    They're media disks when you get right down to it. While they may not be able to carry the amount of data as the more modern USB thumb drives do they still have their place.

    I even still have cassettes of recorded radio shows I will never get rid of. They are master copies of broadcast history that will never get repeated...
    yet good luck finding a cassette player now.

    An interesting survey would be to inquire about the oldest sort of read/write medias people still have :) Ediphone wax/tubes? Open reel tape? 8-tracks?

    -Brian



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Brian Rogers on Fri May 7 11:00:10 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Brian Rogers to MRO on Fri May 07 2021 06:20 am

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    I do, and I still have plenty of blanks to record on.

    Sometimes I use them to make install disks with such as the newer versions of Windows/Linux/etc. Sometimes I use them to burn videos I've streamed from lectures so I can have a copy offline as well.

    They're media disks when you get right down to it. While they may not be able to carry the amount of data as the more modern USB thumb drives do they still have their place.


    or you can just save a lot of time and money and use a usb drive
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri May 7 11:17:45 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu May 06 2021 07:27 am

    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 05 2021 02:33 pm

    It would be as if the MPAA developed a DVD format that wore out after a certai
    number of plays.

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain
    equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past
    them.


    do people even use dvds anymore?

    Yes, they are a very cheap and practical way of storing digital content if you don t
    want to hand it to a streaming platform or outsourced storage :-)

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Elf on Fri May 7 11:24:33 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 09:10 am

    MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain
    equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past
    them.

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without consuming too much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)

    Long live the DVD!!!!

    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector.

    ... Th-th-th-that's all, folks.

    The difference between DVD resolution and Ultra High Resolution of Death is usually
    not appreciable unless you have a gigantic screen.

    I remember when 30-something inches was considered a big TV. I have never felt the
    need for bigger ones myself so that also means I have less of a need for high definition media.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri May 7 11:26:41 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to Elf on Thu May 06 2021 01:10 pm

    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 09:10 am

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without consuming t
    much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)


    i just download it and delete it.


    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector
    :-)

    projector? wtf

    Hahaha, such a first-worlder thing to say.

    It takes me ages to download anything meaningful. If I could get a film downloaded the
    same day I intend to watch it I might think differently, but when it takes half a
    month to get a file transfered you stop thinking of data as a disposable asset.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri May 7 11:36:27 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds anymore?
    By: MRO to Ogg on Fri May 07 2021 08:53 am

    Re: do people even use dvds anymore?
    By: Ogg to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 10:35 pm

    DVDs are also a fine way to share material with other people. A
    friend was looking for a collection episodes from a TV show
    available on YT, and some TED Talks on particular subjects. The
    DVD provided the medium to do that.

    usb flash drive?

    DVDs are still cheaper, plus they are less likely to act as vehicles for trojan horses
    and are more reliable in the long run if properly cared for.

    Flash drives are better when you intend to share many small files that change quite
    often, though.

    Now imagine if you want to store a library of software or rescue media in the office.
    A DVD library is cheaper than having piles of hard drives or flash drives and they
    also last longer under moderate use. They are also ready-to-go in case a computer gets
    toasted and you need to plug System CD Rescue into one.

    It is also easier to distribute DVDs and CDs alongside products when you don't expect
    the customer to have a good internet connection. This is the reason why distributing a
    printer with a DVD with drivers is better than distributing the printer and telling
    people to download the drivers from a website unless you are confident the customer is
    from a region where INternet usage is cheap and widespread.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Brian Rogers on Fri May 7 13:07:00 2021
    On 07 May 2021, Brian Rogers said the following...

    They're media disks when you get right down to it. While they may not be able to carry the amount of data as the more modern USB thumb drives do they still have their place.

    their place is copied to a more reliable media and then trashed lol.

    dvds are the worst.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Arelor on Fri May 7 13:11:00 2021
    On 07 May 2021, Arelor said the following...

    I remember when 30-something inches was considered a big TV. I have
    never felt t he
    need for bigger ones myself so that also means I have less of a need for high definition media.

    people will buy huge tvs and then adjust their living room to sit further away.. silly imo

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Fri May 7 12:34:43 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Arelor to MRO on Fri May 07 2021 11:26 am


    projector? wtf

    Hahaha, such a first-worlder thing to say.

    It takes me ages to download anything meaningful. If I could get a film downloaded the same day I intend to watch it I might think differently, but when it takes half a month to get a file transfered you stop thinking of data as a disposable asset.


    just move where you have decent internet. i couldnt live like that.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Fri May 7 12:37:02 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds anymore?
    By: Arelor to MRO on Fri May 07 2021 11:36 am

    usb flash drive?

    DVDs are still cheaper, plus they are less likely to act as vehicles for trojan horses and are more reliable in the long run if properly cared for.

    Flash drives are better when you intend to share many small files that

    why would there be a trojan horse on it?

    i've been around a long time. i've used floppies, cds, dvds.

    i dont know why you guys prefer dvds over flash drives.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fusion on Fri May 7 12:37:55 2021
    Re: Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: fusion to Brian Rogers on Fri May 07 2021 01:07 pm

    On 07 May 2021, Brian Rogers said the following...

    They're media disks when you get right down to it. While they may not be able to carry the amount of data as the more modern USB thumb drives do they still have their place.

    their place is copied to a more reliable media and then trashed lol.

    dvds are the worst.

    yeah you never know when you are going to have a bad cd or dvd. i've seen them both rot.

    they need to go.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fusion on Fri May 7 12:46:11 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: fusion to Arelor on Fri May 07 2021 01:11 pm

    On 07 May 2021, Arelor said the following...

    I remember when 30-something inches was considered a big TV. I have never felt t he
    need for bigger ones myself so that also means I have less of a need for high definition media.

    people will buy huge tvs and then adjust their living room to sit further away.. silly imo

    i lived in a tiny house with a girlfriend and she had to get the biggest tv and then later she just had to have a soundbar for it and the sound basically beat the shit out of us.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ELF on Fri May 7 11:26:00 2021
    Yeah, but I would have to first shell out for an internal BluRay player
    for my PC so I could rip those . . . I wonder for how much longer they
    will continue to make DVDs and BluRays. Until they stop, I'll keep
    collecting from DVDs...maybe BluRay later, but trying to avoid that for
    now. :-)

    Agreed.


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Fri May 7 15:18:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Elf <=-

    why dont you just buy a large display? for the price of the projector
    and the screen you would come out better ---

    My screen, which I got for free, is 100" diagonally. The only 98" TV at
    Best Buy that I see on their web site is $59,999.99. Hmmm....No
    thanks. LOL :-)

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tvs/85-inch-tvs/pcmcat1571250794220.c?id=pc mcat1571250794220&qp=child_tvscreensizeplus_facet%3DTV%20Screen%20Size~9 8%20inches

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Fri May 7 15:23:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to Elf <=-

    I remember when 30-something inches was considered a big TV. I have
    never felt the need for bigger ones myself so that also means I have
    less of a need for high definition media.

    Agreed. We have a 100" projector screen we use when we want the movie
    feel. The flat panel TV is 55" for regular family viewing. But, most of
    the time we find ourselves watching shows on computer screens or 10"
    tablets. I don't need super high definition content. I'm glad though
    since it also saves disk space. :-)

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to Brian Rogers on Fri May 7 16:04:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to MRO <=-

    I even still have cassettes of recorded radio shows I will never get
    rid of. They are master copies of broadcast history that will never get repeated... yet good luck finding a cassette player now.

    Won't those lose their quality over time?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elf on Fri May 7 17:57:53 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Fri May 07 2021 03:18 pm

    MRO wrote to Elf <=-

    why dont you just buy a large display? for the price of the projector and the screen you would come out better ---

    My screen, which I got for free, is 100" diagonally. The only 98" TV at
    Best Buy that I see on their web site is $59,999.99. Hmmm....No
    thanks. LOL :-)


    yeah but your resolution is still shit because it's projecting at 1080p
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elf on Fri May 7 17:58:45 2021
    Re: Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Elf to Brian Rogers on Fri May 07 2021 04:04 pm

    Brian Rogers wrote to MRO <=-

    I even still have cassettes of recorded radio shows I will never get rid of. They are master copies of broadcast history that will never get repeated... yet good luck finding a cassette player now.

    Won't those lose their quality over time?


    yep.
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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Fri May 7 19:42:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Elf <=-

    My screen, which I got for free, is 100" diagonally. The only 98" TV at
    Best Buy that I see on their web site is $59,999.99. Hmmm....No
    thanks. LOL :-)

    yeah but your resolution is still shit because it's projecting at 1080p

    Yeah, well, I'll stick with my "crappy" resolution before I shell out
    $60K for stupid TV. LOL

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Elf on Sat May 8 05:50:00 2021
    Hey Elf;

    Elf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Won't those lose their quality over time?

    They will however how much quality is lost depends on environment, grade
    of tape, and the player you're using. A DBX encoded cassette on an
    audiophile grade player won't lose as much as say a $25 portable player
    and low grade tape :) It's not that difficult to convert the audio to
    digital if you have the setup to do such.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Elf on Sat May 8 10:26:00 2021
    Hello Elf!

    ** On Friday 07.05.21 - 15:18, Elf wrote to MRO:

    My screen, which I got for free, is 100" diagonally. The
    only 98" TV at Best Buy that I see on their web site is
    $59,999.99. Hmmm....No thanks. LOL :-)

    Your the first Elf I've met that lives in a mansion. :D

    At 100", I'd have to back off to the other end of the house.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Elf on Sat May 8 13:45:10 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Thu May 06 2021 09:10 am

    Long live the DVD!!!!

    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc.

    Or even 1080?

    Even the DVD rips look great over a projector. :-)

    DVDs are 480 lines (SD, or Standard Def). I have a 1080p projector on a 108" screen and even 720p is noticeably degraded from 1080p on it. Even my kids are like - what the hell is this crap, Dad? when I project anything less than 720p on it.

    And yes, I have a 4K TV too, but I'm not eager to upgrade all the bits needed to support 4K everywhere.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat May 8 14:21:36 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to fusion on Fri May 07 2021 12:46 pm

    i lived in a tiny house with a girlfriend and she had to get the biggest tv and then later she just had to have a soundbar for it and the sound basically beat the shit out of us.

    You had to pay extra for a volume control?
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ogg on Sat May 8 14:24:42 2021
    Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Ogg to Elf on Sat May 08 2021 10:26 am

    At 100", I'd have to back off to the other end of the house.

    Nah, it's surprisingly awesome even within 10 ft. But you do need a darkened "theater room" for the right experience.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to fusion on Sat May 8 18:08:00 2021
    fusion wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    They're media disks when you get right down to it. While they may not be able to carry the amount of data as the more modern USB thumb drives do they still have their place.

    their place is copied to a more reliable media and then trashed
    lol.

    So, you think a USB drive is "more reliable" than a DVD?

    dvds are the worst.

    For what? The purpose is the most important part of a sweeping
    generality like that.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sat May 8 18:09:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

    DVDs are still cheaper, plus they are less likely to act as vehicles for trojan horses and are more reliable in the long run if properly cared for.

    Flash drives are better when you intend to share many small files that

    why would there be a trojan horse on it?

    i've been around a long time. i've used floppies, cds, dvds.

    i dont know why you guys prefer dvds over flash drives.

    Probably because you don't know nearly as much as you think (and claim)
    you do.

    Yup.



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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Gamgee on Sat May 8 20:36:00 2021
    On 08 May 2021, Gamgee said the following...

    So, you think a USB drive is "more reliable" than a DVD?

    i don't recall making a recommendation for something more reliable.

    dvds are the worst.
    For what? The purpose is the most important part of a sweeping generality like that.

    you take life a little to seriously i think lol

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Brian Rogers on Sat May 8 19:27:00 2021
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Saturday 08.05.21 - 05:50, Brian Rogers wrote to Elf:

    Won't those lose their quality over time?

    They will however how much quality is lost depends on
    environment, grade of tape, and the player you're using. A
    DBX encoded cassette on an audiophile grade player won't
    lose as much as say a $25 portable player and low grade
    tape :) It's not that difficult to convert the audio to
    digital if you have the setup to do such.

    I still play the occassional cassette that I've produced (circa
    mid-80's to mid 90's) from when I purchased LPs (to preserve
    them). I enjoy my collection of "themed" cassettes and/or full
    albums. They sound a bit different since I don't have the
    original cassette recorder anymore, but with little tweeks of
    treble and bass, they still sound pretty good.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat May 8 19:45:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Friday 07.05.21 - 11:00, MRO wrote to Brian Rogers:

    They're media disks when you get right down to it. While
    they may not be able to carry the amount of data as the more
    modern USB thumb drives do they still have their place.


    or you can just save a lot of time and money and use a usb
    drive

    I don't have unlimited highspeed internet at home.

    And, I don't have a tv that supports usb directly. I solved that
    problem with a separate media player that accepts usb or ssd
    cards. And the connection to the tv is by using composite
    video. The tv is also connected to a dvd player. I'll flip
    between the dvd and usb media player depending on what is most
    convenient.

    I don't have unlimited usb drives at the ready either. But I
    can always copy a bunch of .mp4 files that I want on a rw-dvd
    and take that home with me. When home, I copy the .mp4 to a usb
    drive that cooperates the best with my media player, and reuse
    the rw-dvd for more files another time.

    I rarely produce a playable dvd anymore; that was when usb
    drives were still rather expensive.

    I have a 64GB Phillips 3.0 thumbdrive and it's the worst!
    Sometimes the media player simply doesn't detect it.

    But loading up a rw-dvd and then later transferring the files I
    want to watch on a reliable usb (which I keep plugged in to the
    media player) is the best solution.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat May 8 20:32:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Friday 07.05.21 - 08:53, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    DVDs are also a fine way to share material with other
    people. A friend was looking for a collection episodes from
    a TV show available on YT, and some TED Talks on particular
    subjects. The DVD provided the medium to do that.

    usb flash drive?

    For sharing to other people, I don't care if I don't get the usb
    back, but I wouldn't be too happy if I had to keep buying
    replacement usb drives.

    The discs are also easier to file or mail in an envelop.


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to Brian Rogers on Sat May 8 18:38:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Elf <=-

    They will however how much quality is lost depends on environment,
    grade of tape, and the player you're using. A DBX encoded cassette on
    an audiophile grade player won't lose as much as say a $25 portable
    player and low grade tape :) It's not that difficult to convert the
    audio to digital if you have the setup to do such.

    Yeah, I converted all my tape cassettes - well, the few I had left - to digital in 2007. Man. Time flies.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to fusion on Sat May 8 22:01:00 2021
    fusion wrote to Gamgee <=-

    So, you think a USB drive is "more reliable" than a DVD?

    i don't recall making a recommendation for something more
    reliable.

    Well, I guess you didn't. What you did say (and snipped out) was that
    the only use for DVDs was to copy their contents to something more
    reliable. So, what media would you recommend copying to?

    dvds are the worst.

    For what? The purpose is the most important part of a sweeping
    generality like that.

    you take life a little to seriously i think lol

    It's hard to have a conversation with an illiterate.

    You didn't answer the question. Try again?



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Sat May 8 22:46:00 2021
    Hello Digital Man!

    ** On Saturday 08.05.21 - 13:45, Digital Man wrote to Elf:

    DVDs are 480 lines (SD, or Standard Def). I have a 1080p
    projector on a 108" screen and even 720p is noticeably
    degraded from 1080p on it. Even my kids are like - what the
    hell is this crap, Dad? when I project anything less than
    720p on it.

    That's funny (the kids, I mean). I guess no VHS films for them,
    eh?

    I've heard the some DVD players facilitate upscaling 480 output
    to 720p, 1080i, or 1080p.

    My modest 32" LCD tv allows for adjusting smoothness/sharpness
    which can help improving an otherwise obviously poor/older
    source of media.

    And yes, I have a 4K TV too, but I'm not eager to upgrade
    all the bits needed to support 4K everywhere. --

    Alternatively, you could always downgrade to a 32" tv. :D VHS
    and DVDs are practically indestinguishable from 720p material.

    Or.. cast the video to the kid's phones. Everything will look
    good enough. :)


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sun May 9 06:55:48 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds anymore?
    By: MRO to Arelor on Fri May 07 2021 12:37 pm

    DVDs are still cheaper, plus they are less likely to act as vehicles for trojan horses and are more reliable in the long run if properly cared for

    Flash drives are better when you intend to share many small files that

    why would there be a trojan horse on it?

    Back in my college days, it was common to share notes and college related executables using USB drives. Some person, often the professor, would prepare the drive and give it to a student, who would download the contents to his computer and then hand the drive to another student, and so on until everybody had a copy of everything.

    A big issue for Windows users was malware propagation. Malware that infected USB drives was common. If Alfonso had an infected computer, when he plugged the USB to download the files, the malware would replicate itself to the drive. When Alfonso passed the malware ridden drive to Manuel, Manuel's computer would get infected too. It used to be a big problem because for all the fanfarre going for them, anti-malware programs weren't that great at stopping this.

    E-learning platforms have mitigated this issue greatly. Now the professor can just upload the files and notes to an online platform and tell the students to fetch the stuff from there. Still it does not work well for big files because e-learning platforms usually have data quotas - you just cannot upload a 4 GB program to it, for example.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Elf on Sun May 9 06:59:19 2021
    Re: Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Elf to Brian Rogers on Fri May 07 2021 04:04 pm

    Brian Rogers wrote to MRO <=-

    I even still have cassettes of recorded radio shows I will never get rid of. They are master copies of broadcast history that will never get repeated... yet good luck finding a cassette player now.

    Won't those lose their quality over time?

    ... You aren't here forever, enjoy each day as a miracle.

    I think they lose their quality over _use_ rather than time.

    I have a bunch fo analog media at home. The way I use it is by digitizing it and keeping the analog copies in a safe place just in case I want to digitize them to a more modern format some years later. At this point you should consider quality analog copies as master copies that are to be treated with the upmost respect.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun May 9 08:45:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Friday 07.05.21 - 12:34, MRO wrote to Arelor:

    It takes me ages to download anything meaningful. If I could get a film
    downloaded the same day I intend to watch it I might think differently,
    but when it takes half a month to get a file transfered you stop
    thinking of data as a disposable asset.


    just move where you have decent internet. i couldnt live like that.

    We don't all live in a trailer home! <g>


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Sun May 9 08:16:00 2021
    Hello Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I still play the occassional cassette that I've produced (circa
    mid-80's to mid 90's) from when I purchased LPs (to preserve
    them). I enjoy my collection of "themed" cassettes and/or full
    albums. They sound a bit different since I don't have the
    original cassette recorder anymore, but with little tweeks of
    treble and bass, they still sound pretty good.

    Sometimes that's all you need to do so that you can enjoy the sounds of
    them still. Years ago I purchased an original Harris Criterion 1 from a broadcast supply warehouse. It came with the service manual to my very
    pleasant surprise! It was purchased by WLS in Chicago (the ABC powerhouse
    radio station!) and the engineer did a few mods to it and the notes were
    saved within. Using those I was able to build somewhat of an EQ inside one
    of the cans (that's how they made modular designs back then) and what was
    a muddy sounding deck sounded mint! Nice high end and good bottom end for
    a cart machine... if you know what those are. I still have it too. One of these days I should fire it up and cycle my carts.

    Cheers!

    -Brian

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Elf on Sun May 9 08:18:00 2021
    Hey Elf;

    Elf wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Yeah, I converted all my tape cassettes - well, the few I had left - to digital in 2007. Man. Time flies.

    That's still on my "to do" list. What I originally started to do in the mid
    90s was master audio on my HiFi VHS. Unfortunately now the belts in it are
    shot and I think I junked it. Man did that sound mint in it's day.

    -Brian

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sun May 9 12:08:00 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat May 08 2021 02:21 pm

    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to fusion on Fri May 07 2021 12:46 pm

    i lived in a tiny house with a girlfriend and she had to get the biggest tv and then later she just had to have a soundbar for it and the sound basically beat the shit out of us.

    You had to pay extra for a volume control?
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    The living room was so small that if you had the volume down low you couldnt really take advantage of the quality of the new sound system.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun May 9 12:11:55 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat May 08 2021 07:45 pm

    I don't have unlimited highspeed internet at home.


    what?!
    And, I don't have a tv that supports usb directly. I solved that

    what?!
    And the connection to the tv is by using composite
    video.

    what?!

    video. The tv is also connected to a dvd player. I'll flip

    what?!

    I don't have unlimited usb drives at the ready either. But I

    what?!

    and take that home with me. When home, I copy the .mp4 to a usb
    drive that cooperates the best with my media player, and reuse

    mp4? what?!

    But loading up a rw-dvd and then later transferring the files I
    want to watch on a reliable usb (which I keep plugged in to the
    media player) is the best solution.

    ok unabomber
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun May 9 13:14:29 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds anymore?
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 09 2021 06:55 am

    for trojan horses and are more reliable in the long run if properly cared for

    Flash drives are better when you intend to share many small files that

    why would there be a trojan horse on it?

    Back in my college days, it was common to share notes and college related executables using USB drives. Some person, often the professor, would prepare the drive and give it to a student, who would download the contents


    yeah, that's stupid.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun May 9 13:16:03 2021
    Re: just move where you have decent internet
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sun May 09 2021 08:45 am


    just move where you have decent internet. i couldnt live like that.

    We don't all live in a trailer home! <g>


    hey i actually lived in a trailer for a little while. i had the fastest, cheapest internet.

    it's one of the nicer areas i've lived. everyone was very friendly.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Sun May 9 07:30:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I
    wouldn't put that past them.

    If only they spent their time and energy making original content instead...


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dream Master on Sun May 9 08:45:00 2021
    Dream Master wrote to MRO <=-

    My father-in-law. He believes that the government is tracking him when
    he uses a Blu-Ray that connects to the internet. I told him to remove
    the wireless configuration from his Blu-Ray player; he did.
    Afterwards, he told me that the Blu-Ray disk reactivates the wireless adapter.

    I give up.

    Does he have a 4G phone in the vicinity when he turns on the BR player? That could explain it. :)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Elf on Sun May 9 08:46:00 2021
    Elf wrote to MRO <=-

    Yes! I do! It's the best way to get my movies on my computer without consuming too much disk space. And the cost overall is just better to
    buy the DVD and digitize it to the hard drive. :-)

    DVDs Don't Crash.

    Take care of them and they'll last a lot longer than a hard drive.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Sun May 9 08:52:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to ELF <=-

    I am starting to notice that the price for some DVDs is now higher than their blu-ray counterparts. Most still are not, though.

    It's the same reverse bell curve of commodity prices.

    Memory starts off expensive, then as the technology becomes mainstream the price drops along a curve. Once the new tech comes out, the price gradually increases until a steep curve when the new tech becomes mainstream. At the
    end of the curve, commodity becomes niche and all bets are off.

    Priced an MFM drive lately? PC-100 memory? :)

    There's a point where it's cheaper to get a generation previous to the top
    of the line, but wait too long and it gets expensive. I had an old computer that had more then enough CPU to spare, but not enough memory. I could buy a new barebones computer for the price of the memory.

    As it was, I could have paid $149 for 16 GB of (slower) memory for it, or
    pay $175 for an entire system with a faster processor, 16GB of RAM, USB3 instead of USB2, a 3TB HDD, and a DVD/RW drive.

    Instead of getting 12 years out of it, I think I'll get 2 years, then buy something new and hand this one down to my wife as her system is now too expensive to upgrade. :)




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Elf on Sun May 9 08:54:00 2021
    Elf wrote to MRO <=-

    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector. :-)

    projector? wtf

    I got a tiny little LED projector for Christmas last year. We just finished landscaping the garden and have a perfect patch of wall for having outdoor movies for the kids. Looking forward to it, but don't know how bright these new projectors are. We'll find out soon!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Elf on Sun May 9 08:55:00 2021
    Elf wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Yeah, but I would have to first shell out for an internal BluRay player for my PC so I could rip those

    I keep thinking I should upgrade for backup purposes. You can get, what,
    45GB on BR media?

    I could cut my collection of ratty, beat up CD binders down to one.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to fusion on Sun May 9 08:58:00 2021
    fusion wrote to Arelor <=-

    people will buy huge tvs and then adjust their living room to sit
    further away.. silly imo

    There will be a generation of kids with cranial matrix implants looking at their parents permanently hunched over from looking at their phones.

    They'll sit in VR pods to watch movies and wonder why their grandparents
    have such big living rooms and screens.






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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Elf on Sun May 9 09:01:00 2021
    Elf wrote to Arelor <=-

    Agreed. We have a 100" projector screen we use when we want the movie feel. The flat panel TV is 55" for regular family viewing. But, most of the time we find ourselves watching shows on computer screens or 10" tablets. I don't need super high definition content. I'm glad though
    since it also saves disk space. :-)

    Lately, going out at work to lunch, getting takeout, eating in my car and watching movies on my 6" phone mounted on the dash seems more the norm. I've somehow managed to keep my car clean this whole time.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Sun May 9 09:02:00 2021
    Digital Man wrote to Ogg <=-

    At 100", I'd have to back off to the other end of the house.

    Nah, it's surprisingly awesome even within 10 ft. But you do need a darkened "theater room" for the right experience. --

    Have you (or anyone here) read up on backlighting? It seemed like having the TV backlight the wall it was on was supposed to help improve the look of the picture.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Sun May 9 09:12:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I still play the occassional cassette that I've produced (circa
    mid-80's to mid 90's) from when I purchased LPs (to preserve
    them).

    I got rid of my cassette collection as I picked up CD or MP3 copies to
    replace them. The last one I replaced was a TDK MAR/90 tape from 1985 or so, the kind that had the metal frame and plastic faceplates screwed into it.

    http://realitycheckbbs.org/images/mar90.jpg

    Big old heavy hunka thing, it took a good push of the eject button in my car stereo to get it out. But, it sounded great 20+ years later.

    Vintage Check: Side 1 was Tear for Fears "The Hurting", side 2 Roxy Music, "Avalon".



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Sun May 9 09:14:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    I rarely produce a playable dvd anymore; that was when usb
    drives were still rather expensive.

    I went through a fun phase where I'd make playable DVDs. Making the top
    menu, including graphics and music was an enjoyable hobby. For the life of
    me, I can't think of what app I used - maybe that Roxio app that came with
    old DVD burners?


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sun May 9 09:17:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to MRO <=-

    Back in my college days, it was common to share notes and college
    related executables using USB drives. Some person, often the professor, would prepare the drive and give it to a student, who would download
    the contents to his computer and then hand the drive to another
    student, and so on until everybody had a copy of everything.

    Until that one crafty student changed all the answers before handing it
    off... :)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sun May 9 15:19:39 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu May 06 2021 07:27 am

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    I still like to buy movies on blu-ray & 4K blu-ray sometimes. Streaming services can be unreliable and can remove content at any time. Also, the quality on a physical disc is usually a lot better than on a streaming service.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 9 18:11:57 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Elf on Sun May 09 2021 08:46 am

    DVDs Don't Crash.

    Take care of them and they'll last a lot longer than a hard drive.


    HAH!!

    bullshit
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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 9 19:36:00 2021
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Elf <=-

    DVDs Don't Crash.

    Take care of them and they'll last a lot longer than a hard drive.

    Yeah, but DVDs don't play in my EMBY (like Plex) library, on my mobile
    device when away from home, etc.

    Hard drive crash? That's why God invented backups man. My entire
    library is backed up always. All my data is backed up.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 9 19:39:00 2021
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Elf <=-

    Lately, going out at work to lunch, getting takeout, eating in my car
    and watching movies on my 6" phone mounted on the dash seems more the norm. I've somehow managed to keep my car clean this whole time.

    Yep. We are watching movies (and other videos) all over the place now,
    not just in our home, definitely not just in a theatre. Although my
    family is now fully vaccinated, we still have not returned to the movie theatre. Not sure when we will - probably need a compelling reason to
    go back. For now, we are enjoying movie night at home.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun May 9 20:50:00 2021
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Elf <=-

    I got a tiny little LED projector for Christmas last year. We just finished landscaping the garden and have a perfect patch of wall for having outdoor movies for the kids. Looking forward to it, but don't
    know how bright these new projectors are. We'll find out soon!

    We got a small one too for Christmas last year. It was sent to us by
    mistake, but when we tried to contact the giver via Amazon, we got
    no reply. The only option Amazon offered was a refund. We just kept
    it and we like it. It does need to be nice and dark out, but it
    works well. My son-in-law has a bigger, brighter one and it is
    definitely better, but this little one is really good just the same.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 9 21:45:00 2021
    Hello poindexter FORTRAN!

    ** On Sunday 09.05.21 - 09:12, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg:

    I got rid of my cassette collection as I picked up CD or
    MP3 copies to replace them. The last one I replaced was a
    TDK MAR/90 tape from 1985 or so, the kind that had the
    metal frame and plastic faceplates screwed into it.

    http://realitycheckbbs.org/images/mar90.jpg

    Doesn't work: https://susepaste.org/29201634 :(


    Big old heavy hunka thing, it took a good push of the
    eject button in my car stereo to get it out. But, it
    sounded great 20+ years later.

    There was a time when I gradually replaced my favourite tunes
    found on cassette with MP3 versions out there. (My records
    were in boxes and in storage, it was rather inconvenient and
    almost impossible to dig out specific original LPs)

    But most of my tapes are my own mixes, so I'd rather play them
    direct from the casette as long as I can.

    Vintage Check: Side 1 was Tear for Fears "The Hurting",
    side 2 Roxy Music, "Avalon".

    Both excellent recordings. Like one might remember having sex
    for the 1st time, I remember the very first CD that I played:
    Avalon.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 9 21:56:00 2021
    Hello poindexter FORTRAN!

    ** On Sunday 09.05.21 - 09:14, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg:

    I rarely produce a playable dvd anymore; that was when
    usb drives were still rather expensive.

    I went through a fun phase where I'd make playable DVDs.
    Making the top menu, including graphics and music was an
    enjoyable hobby. For the life of me, I can't think of what
    app I used - maybe that Roxio app that came with old DVD
    burners?

    I didn't bother with menus too much if it was just one full-
    length film per disc. I used a handful of different ones over
    time: WinX DVD Author, Roxio, WinDVD. I eventually settled with
    Freemake; generates a simple menu automatically.

    I have a friend who wants me to help him convert his 500+
    collection of slides for viewing on TV. DVD seems to be the
    best media for that.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 10 09:04:08 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Sun May 09 2021 07:30 am

    Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past them.

    If only they spent their time and energy making original content instead...


    ... The plains of Leonis are burning.

    Original content? Heresy, I say!!!

    We only want sequels, prequels and remakes here!


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Sun May 9 20:43:00 2021
    Hey Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    We don't all live in a trailer home! <g>

    Please don't disrespect trailer homes... after all Vicky Bartelomo is
    quite babalicious <BEG>

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elf on Mon May 10 15:35:53 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 09 2021 07:39 pm

    Yep. We are watching movies (and other videos) all over the place now,
    not just in our home, definitely not just in a theatre. Although my
    family is now fully vaccinated, we still have not returned to the movie theatre. Not sure when we will - probably need a compelling reason to
    go back. For now, we are enjoying movie night at home.


    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i thought things were going to improve when they added alcohol and food but no... it was expensive alcohol and food.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon May 10 14:38:00 2021
    Someone has already figured out a way to prevent DVDs from playing on certain equipment, like PCs or drives that are capable of R/W. I wouldn't put that past them.

    If only they spent their time and energy making original content instead...

    Sadly, intimidating others probably requires less effort. :(


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon May 10 14:41:00 2021
    Priced an MFM drive lately? PC-100 memory? :)

    Do they still make those drives? I am guessing whoever sells them used is probably trying to sell them as "vintage" and using that reason to drive
    the price up more than anything.

    There's a point where it's cheaper to get a generation previous to the top
    of the line, but wait too long and it gets expensive. I had an old computer that had more then enough CPU to spare, but not enough memory. I could buy a new barebones computer for the price of the memory.

    In the case of blu-ray, I would not mind buying one expect (1) I have never really noticed a quality difference (but the price difference could nullify that), and (2) maybe I am wrong but I think blu-rays have more "protection"
    to make it more difficult for me to use my media as I desire.

    If I am wrong about that 2nd one, it could be time soon. :)

    Instead of getting 12 years out of it, I think I'll get 2 years, then buy something new and hand this one down to my wife as her system is now too expensive to upgrade. :)

    <GRIN> Sounds like a plan!


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Brian Rogers on Mon May 10 17:34:00 2021
    Hello Brian Rogers!

    ** On Sunday 09.05.21 - 20:43, Brian Rogers wrote to Ogg:

    We don't all live in a trailer home! <g>

    Please don't disrespect trailer homes...

    Not at all! MRO probably has a very nice one. ;)

    after all Vicky Bartelomo is quite babalicious <BEG>

    Ok.. I don't get the reference, but.. whatever.


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Mon May 10 20:14:00 2021
    Quoting Mro to Elf <=-

    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i thought things were going to improve when they added alcohol and food but no... it
    was expensive alcohol and food. -!-

    Agreed. Going out to the movies has become an expensive, with almost amusement-park-like fees. I mean . . . yeah, just too expensive.



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 10 22:10:44 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Sun May 09 2021 09:02 am

    Digital Man wrote to Ogg <=-

    At 100", I'd have to back off to the other end of the house.

    Nah, it's surprisingly awesome even within 10 ft. But you do need a darkened "theater room" for the right experience. --

    Have you (or anyone here) read up on backlighting? It seemed like having the TV backlight the wall it was on was supposed to help improve the look of the picture.

    I've heard of it (backlighting) for active screens, but not in the context of projection screens.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue May 11 07:04:00 2021
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 10.05.21 - 15:35, MRO wrote to Elf:

    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i
    thought things were going to improve when they added
    alcohol and food but no... it was expensive alcohol and
    food. -+-

    I did not realize that theatres had add booze. Is that
    throughout an entire chain? ..or is it in select states as
    well?


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Elf on Tue May 11 09:39:30 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Mon May 10 2021 08:14 pm

    Quoting Mro to Elf <=-

    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i thought things were going to improve when
    they added alcohol and food but no... it
    was expensive alcohol and food. -!-

    Agreed. Going out to the movies has become an expensive, with almost amusement-park-like fees. I mean
    . . yeah, just too expensive.



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    I thought the point of cinemas wasn t watching the movie, but making out with your girlfriend in the
    backrow :-P

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Tue May 11 07:27:00 2021
    Hey Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    after all Vicky Bartelomo is quite babalicious <BEG>
    Ok.. I don't get the reference, but.. whatever.

    You've never watched the show "America's Got Talent"? She was one of the
    comics and her theme was "Trailor nasty". If you search for her on YouTube you'll find some of her bits. Very funny - and even funnier live OFF of the
    TV cameras :)

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Tue May 11 07:43:00 2021
    Correction:
    Brian Rogers wrote to Ogg <=-

    Hey Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    after all Vicky Bartelomo is quite babalicious <BEG>
    Ok.. I don't get the reference, but.. whatever.

    You've never watched the show "America's Got Talent"? She was one of
    the comics and her theme was "Trailor nasty". If you search for her on YouTube you'll find some of her bits. Very funny - and even funnier
    live OFF of the TV cameras :)

    Vicky Barbolak is her name... my bad there.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Tue May 11 10:11:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to Elf <=-

    I thought the point of cinemas wasn t watching the movie, but making
    out with your girlfriend in the backrow :-P

    All the more reason not to spend tons of money on something you're not watching. ;-)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/TRMB to Brian Rogers on Tue May 11 09:47:02 2021
    You've never watched the show "America's Got Talent"? She was one of the comics and her theme was "Trailor nasty". If you search for her on YouTube you'll find some of her bits. Very funny - and even funnier live OFF of the TV cameras :)

    Vicky Barbolak is her name... my bad there.

    found and watched one where she gives an answer to simon when he asks "what would you do with a million dollars if you won (AGT)?" answer: i'd buy a trailer and move closer to you (simon)"

    yes.. the whole bit was very funny. will settle down with vickie and watch her stuff from 2018 shortly.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Tue May 11 14:16:48 2021
    Re: just move where you have
    By: Ogg to Brian Rogers on Mon May 10 2021 05:34 pm

    We don't all live in a trailer home! <g>

    Please don't disrespect trailer homes...

    Not at all! MRO probably has a very nice one. ;)


    remember when they had the 'tiny home' fad? i wondered why they
    didnt consider manufactured homes? they are cheap and effecient.

    my electric bill was the lowest it has ever been and in the winter i had the heat jacked up. the only problem is my pipes going out from the shower would freeze when it was real real real cold. but that's about it.
    to get my water to do down i would put some rocksalt in the drain and run water and in a minute it would clear.

    after all Vicky Bartelomo is quite babalicious <BEG>

    Ok.. I don't get the reference, but.. whatever.


    i dont either and i'm not gonna google it
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Elf on Tue May 11 14:17:42 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Elf to MRO on Mon May 10 2021 08:14 pm

    Quoting Mro to Elf <=-

    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i thought things were going to improve when they added alcohol and food but no... it
    was expensive alcohol and food. -!-

    Agreed. Going out to the movies has become an expensive, with almost amusement-park-like fees. I mean . . . yeah, just too expensive.


    and if i go there someone is on their phone in the middle of the movie or they stink like perfume or whatever. or they clear their throat every 30 seconds.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Tue May 11 14:18:17 2021
    Re: whole movie theater deal
    By: Ogg to MRO on Tue May 11 2021 07:04 am

    Hello MRO!

    ** On Monday 10.05.21 - 15:35, MRO wrote to Elf:

    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i
    thought things were going to improve when they added
    alcohol and food but no... it was expensive alcohol and
    food. -+-

    I did not realize that theatres had add booze. Is that
    throughout an entire chain? ..or is it in select states as
    well?

    it depends on if they can get a license i believe.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Tue May 11 14:19:40 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Arelor to Elf on Tue May 11 2021 09:39 am

    I thought the point of cinemas wasn t watching the movie, but making out with your girlfriend in the backrow :-P


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Ogg on Tue May 11 17:53:00 2021
    Hey Ogg;

    Ogg wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    found and watched one where she gives an answer to simon when he asks "what would you do with a million dollars if you won (AGT)?" answer:
    i'd buy a trailer and move closer to you (simon)"

    She flirted (without meaning) with Simon just because she knew she could work him into her schtick. I'm very surprised she didn't do as well as she did in the finals.

    yes.. the whole bit was very funny. will settle down with vickie and watch her stuff from 2018 shortly.

    Imagine her if she could say *anything* that would not get censored! 5 times funnier! Enjoy her stuff. :)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Tue May 11 09:25:00 2021
    MRO wrote to Elf <=-

    the whole movie theater deal is a bad business model. i thought things were going to improve when they added alcohol and food but no... it was expensive alcohol and food.

    For the right movie that benefits from a big screen, I'd see it in a movie theater. Interstellar, 1917, and Dunkirk come to mind.

    Having a beer or glass of wine is nice, rather then 64 oz. of ice and
    flavored water for 5 cents more than the 48 oz. cup.

    Listening to people talking about their day during the movie is the show- stopper for me. It got bad, before Covid.

    The movie theaters are going to find that unless they raise their game, they're going to have a harder time than before, since we all upgraded our
    TVs in 2020.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tue May 11 09:26:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-


    In the case of blu-ray, I would not mind buying one expect (1) I have never really noticed a quality difference (but the price difference
    could nullify that)

    I was thinking more of archival storage -being able to back up more files
    per disk than with DVD-R.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Tue May 11 09:39:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to MRO <=-

    I did not realize that theatres had add booze. Is that
    throughout an entire chain? ..or is it in select states as
    well?

    Some chains do.

    Way before it became a thing, there were moviehouses that served food and wine. Two of my favorites in the SF bay area were the Red Vic in San
    Francisco and the Parkway Theater in Oakland.

    The Parkway was an old theater from the 1930s and had a stage. They'd use
    that theater for live events.

    The orchestra pit was full of couches and coffee tables, and the rest of the theater was traditional seating. Get there early enough for a couch, order dinner and it'd be brought out during the movie.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 12 15:20:36 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Tue May 11 2021 09:25 am

    Having a beer or glass of wine is nice, rather then 64 oz. of ice and flavored water for 5 cents more than the 48 oz. cup.

    paying 5x the price is not nice.
    bring your own in.

    The movie theaters are going to find that unless they raise their game, they're going to have a harder time than before, since we all upgraded our TVs in 2020.

    they should do frequent private showing rentouts. that's what mine was doing.

    i just dont like the movie theater experience. it's changed for the worse. i dont care if the seats are more comfortable.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DIVARIN on Thu May 13 13:20:00 2021
    The RIAA is horrendous when it comes to licensing music. Google WKRP and

    WKRP? The only WKRP that comes to mind is that sitcom from the 80's, WKRP in Cincinnati.

    That is what he was talking about.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Fri May 14 11:30:00 2021
    Exactly. They had such a hard time releasing it for syndication, because they had to license every song playing in the background.

    are you sure about that because you can legally play x seconds of any video or
    ong on a tv show. especially with context of the show, it is arguable it's not
    eing used wrong.

    are you sure that's just not some made up internet myth? i've seen it in syndi
    tion just fine.

    I am sure about it. I think they must have gone over the x second
    threshold with a lot of the songs. There have been all sorts of versions in syndication over the years... the earliest run, in the late 1980s, still had most of the music still in place (unless the scene was cut entirely).
    Then, for a while, you got some really crappy versions... the episode where
    the Russian is attempting to stay in the US and has a crush on Bailey and
    the song "Tiny Dancer" was removed and all references to the line "Hold me close, Tiny Dancer" were mangled... The original, not-pirate-from-Canada
    first season DVD set had a lot of the music removed and substituted with sound-alikes.

    There is a full series DVD version out now that has most of the music
    restored, but not all of it. Pink Floyd's "Dogs" no longer plays as big a
    role in the Thanksgiving episode, for example. Ironic, because I believe it was present in an earlier syndicated version that had other music missing.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri May 14 21:20:58 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri May 14 2021 11:30 am

    There is a full series DVD version out now that has most of the music restored, but not all of it. Pink Floyd's "Dogs" no longer plays as big a role in the Thanksgiving episode, for example. Ironic, because I believe it was present in an earlier syndicated version that had other music missing.


    i dont even remember much music being played in that show.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat May 15 10:33:00 2021
    There is a full series DVD version out now that has most of the music restored, but not all of it. Pink Floyd's "Dogs" no longer plays as big a role in the Thanksgiving episode, for example. Ironic, because I believe i
    was present in an earlier syndicated version that had other music missing.


    i dont even remember much music being played in that show.

    You're kidding, right?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat May 15 14:42:08 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat May 15 2021 10:33 am

    i dont even remember much music being played in that show.

    You're kidding, right?

    i remember the bumper music being played when they'd walk into the dj room.

    i've seen the show a lot. it's a shitty show. it's not exactly recorded
    in my brain.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Sat May 15 14:49:31 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat May 15 2021 02:42 pm

    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat May 15 2021 10:33 am

    i dont even remember much music being played in that show.

    You're kidding, right?

    i remember the bumper music being played when they'd walk into the dj

    room.

    i've seen the show a lot. it's a shitty show. it's not exactly recorded

    okay i downloaded a show from season 3. it's basically what i described here. there was low playing music during their conversations in the dj booth.
    they showed a greatful dead album. fever was playign a stevie wonder song for a few seconds. there was a short time where they played
    the who. probably under 15 seconds. the plane was in the air with music playing, then it went to johnny fever playing the music then it stopped.


    really not chocked full of music. i think you guys are remembering it wrong.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to OGG on Fri May 14 08:39:00 2021
    OGG wrote to <=-

    do people even use dvds anymore?

    I do. I don't have streaming services as an option. DVDs
    (purchased or my own burned discs) are the only solution for me.

    DVDs are also a fine way to share material with other people. A
    friend was looking for a collection episodes from a TV show
    available on YT, and some TED Talks on particular subjects. The
    DVD provided the medium to do that.

    Not here... They still have their uses, yeah, but for movies I
    stream, and for data I use 'the cloud' or thumb drives...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to FUSION on Fri May 14 08:51:00 2021
    FUSION wrote to ARELOR <=-

    I remember when 30-something inches was considered a big TV. I have
    never felt t he
    need for bigger ones myself so that also means I have less of a need for high definition media.

    people will buy huge tvs and then adjust their living room to sit
    further away.. silly imo

    I watch on the iPad a lot... I knew I enjoyed it already, but had a doctor
    tell me he does the same thing, cause he wears glasses and if he holds the
    iPad a foot a way, it's the same 'size' as a huge television across the
    room, and much clearer. LOL




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri May 14 09:25:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to ELF <=-

    PS - I don't care about 4k-8k etc. Even the DVD rips look great over a projector. :-)

    projector? wtf

    I got a tiny little LED projector for Christmas last year. We just finished landscaping the garden and have a perfect patch of wall for having outdoor movies for the kids. Looking forward to it, but don't
    know how bright these new projectors are. We'll find out soon!

    Very cool! Be sure to let us know!!!



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri May 14 09:27:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to OGG <=-

    I rarely produce a playable dvd anymore; that was when usb
    drives were still rather expensive.

    I went through a fun phase where I'd make playable DVDs. Making the top menu, including graphics and music was an enjoyable hobby. For the life
    of me, I can't think of what app I used - maybe that Roxio app that
    came with old DVD burners?

    I used to use iDVD on Mac (I think that's what it was called) to do that.
    Was always a fun little 'project,' but nt something I'd want to do all
    day, every day. :-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ELF on Fri May 14 09:45:00 2021
    ELF wrote to <=-

    Agreed. Going out to the movies has become an expensive, with almost amusement-park-like fees. I mean . . . yeah, just too expensive.

    There are still things I plan to experience on the big screen, preferably opening night. :-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DIVARIN on Fri May 14 09:50:00 2021
    DIVARIN wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    The RIAA is horrendous when it comes to licensing music. Google WKRP and

    WKRP? The only WKRP that comes to mind is that sitcom from the 80's,
    WKRP in Cincinnati.

    Yep - that's what he is referring to... In the original broadcasts they
    used 'real' music, but they didn't have/buy the rights to perpetual
    streaming, or DVD's, which didn't exist at the time.

    So now if you stream them they don't have the original music.

    Quantum Leap is like that too...



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri May 14 09:51:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to <=-

    The movie theaters are going to find that unless they raise their game, they're going to have a harder time than before, since we all upgraded
    our TVs in 2020.

    And with services like HBO Max showing movies WHILE they are in the theater... That's a game changer too!





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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon May 17 08:39:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ELF <=-

    Agreed. Going out to the movies has become an expensive, with almost amusement-park-like fees. I mean . . . yeah, just too expensive.

    There are still things I plan to experience on the big screen,
    preferably opening night. :-)

    Agreed. For what I consider "blockbuster" movies, yeah. The theatre is
    fun. I am not ready to go back yet, but I think I will be by fall of
    this year depending on what the world looks like in relation to this
    pandemic.

    Our family has a long history of attending the theatre for big, fun
    family movies especially sci-fi movies or big Disney releases. I'm sure
    we'll want to get back to reliving those memories soon despite the high financial cost. :-)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon May 17 18:47:39 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DIVARIN on Fri May 14 2021 09:50 am

    Yep - that's what he is referring to... In the original broadcasts they
    used 'real' music, but they didn't have/buy the rights to perpetual streaming, or DVD's, which didn't exist at the time.

    that's not true. they actually did license the music. those licenses changed.

    So now if you stream them they don't have the original music.

    that's also not true. only true for the 1998 dvd set
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue May 18 07:26:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DIVARIN <=-

    So now if you stream them they don't have the original music.

    Hold me closer, Tony Danza...


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 19 10:08:00 2021
    On 05-14-21 09:51, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    And with services like HBO Max showing movies WHILE they are in the theater... That's a game changer too!

    Now that would be great to have here. My partner isn't one for cinema trips these days (long story), so we're effectively discriminated against by the media companies. Paying (even with a premium) to see something that's still in cinema release while at home would be a great option for us. And that's one area where I can understand if these releases were pay per view - that would make it just like going to the cinema, except for the actual trip, which would be fairer on the cinemas. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Thu May 20 07:13:00 2021
    Vk3jed wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Now that would be great to have here. My partner isn't one for cinema trips these days (long story), so we're effectively discriminated
    against by the media companies. Paying (even with a premium) to see something that's still in cinema release while at home would be a great option for us.

    I would love to be able to pay $100 or so to stream a new release at my
    home. You could make it play at a certain time, lock it down however, make
    it so it wouldn't rewind/pause like a movie theater, or do whatever to separate it from plain old pay-per-view, anything - but to be able to have a moviehouse-like experience with friends would be great.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 21 17:24:00 2021
    On 05-20-21 07:13, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I would love to be able to pay $100 or so to stream a new release at my home. You could make it play at a certain time, lock it down however,
    make it so it wouldn't rewind/pause like a movie theater, or do
    whatever to separate it from plain old pay-per-view, anything - but to
    be able to have a moviehouse-like experience with friends would be
    great.

    I wouldn't pay $100, but I would pay the price of a cinema ticket, and yes, have more restrictions on viewing it.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ELF on Fri May 21 09:10:00 2021
    ELF wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Agreed. Going out to the movies has become an expensive, with almost amusement-park-like fees. I mean . . . yeah, just too expensive.

    There are still things I plan to experience on the big screen,
    preferably opening night. :-)

    Agreed. For what I consider "blockbuster" movies, yeah. The theatre is fun. I am not ready to go back yet, but I think I will be by fall of
    this year depending on what the world looks like in relation to this pandemic.

    Our family has a long history of attending the theatre for big, fun
    family movies especially sci-fi movies or big Disney releases. I'm sure we'll want to get back to reliving those memories soon despite the high financial cost. :-)

    Well, you get what you pay for. :-) So if you're paying for the experience
    and it is worth what you pay, then there you go. :-)





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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ELF on Fri May 21 09:15:00 2021
    ELF wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    It also allows a certain amount of Quality Control.

    I know some people don't like that, but I have no problem with it.

    I ran all Apple gear from 2004 to 2015. It really is just one of the

    <snip snap>

    I totally get that! And there was a time I enjoyed tinkering and modding,
    but now I just want something that does what I want and need. :-)

    Their M1 chip is one development that would temp me back to a Mac,

    <snip snap>

    Yeah - I recently replaced my work MacBook Air with an M1 chip model -
    WOW! Better performance as far as the chip, but also on the battery!



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri May 21 09:59:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    So now if you stream them they don't have the original music.

    Hold me closer, Tony Danza...

    Yes - exactly! :-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to VK3JED on Fri May 21 10:03:00 2021
    VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    It has been their MO for sure. The EU is investigating them now for
    some of these practices.

    It also allows a certain amount of Quality Control.

    I know some people don't like that, but I have no problem with it.

    For a phone, I don't mind it. I want my phone to "just work", and
    Apple is really good at that. For a desktop or a laptop, I want more flexibility to be able to install software from wherever I want. Of course, if I choose to use that flexibility to shoot myself in the
    foot, that's my own stupid fault. :D

    Like I said to someone else, I get that, and there was a day I would
    have felt the same way, so more power to you. :-)



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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri May 21 20:45:00 2021
    Quoting Jimmy Anderson to Elf <=-

    Yeah - I recently replaced my work MacBook Air with an M1 chip model - WOW! Better performance as far as the chip, but also on the battery!

    Yeah. I'll probably just wait for the same type of tech to trickle down
    to the PC gear. :-) Apple. Everyone's RD department. ;-)


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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri May 21 20:47:00 2021
    Quoting Jimmy Anderson to Elf <=-

    Our family has a long history of attending the theatre for big, fun
    family movies especially sci-fi movies or big Disney releases. I'm sure we'll want to get back to reliving those memories soon despite the high financial cost. :-)

    Well, you get what you pay for. :-) So if you're paying for the
    experience and it is worth what you pay, then there you go. :-)

    Yeah, I told my family for my birthdays and holidays, I don't want
    "things" i want memories. So now they usually give gifts like movie gift
    cards, dining gift cards etc and then I use those to go out and have fun
    with the family. Best use of money. :-) I got enough "stuff".

    ~Elf

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat May 22 20:54:00 2021
    On 05-21-21 10:03, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

    For a phone, I don't mind it. I want my phone to "just work", and
    Apple is really good at that. For a desktop or a laptop, I want more flexibility to be able to install software from wherever I want. Of course, if I choose to use that flexibility to shoot myself in the
    foot, that's my own stupid fault. :D

    Like I said to someone else, I get that, and there was a day I would
    have felt the same way, so more power to you. :-)

    That said, I still find it useful to keep an old Android around for those cases where an app's not available for the Apple, but I like the Apple as the daily driver. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat May 22 07:05:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ELF <=-

    Yeah - I recently replaced my work MacBook Air with an M1 chip model - WOW! Better performance as far as the chip, but also on the battery!

    Back when I worked in a Mac shop, people complained about the MBA's lack of ports. Now, everyone's caught up. :)

    We may be kicking off a cross-platform desktop initiative at work - and by "We", I mean "I". Right now, we're all Windows but we have an opportunity
    to open things up to Linux, BSD and Mac. I need to get familiar with MacOS again, maybe I should use that to justify getting a Mac in the office this summer. :)


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  • From Lightman@VERT/PEDALION to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 23 19:10:00 2021
    We may be kicking off a cross-platform desktop initiative at work - and by "We", I mean "I". Right now, we're all Windows but we have an opportunity to open things up to Linux, BSD and Mac. I need to get familiar with MacOS


    It seems like you're a bit late to the party here... BUT, you may be right on time. When we first pushed non-windows in my corporation, the hipster mac
    guys (I use a mac, but don't tell anyone... oops)... all told everyone about their macs, but everyone of them needed `fusion` or something else to run the killer windows apps. So, at least for a few years, we were "no longer microsoft", but every alternative was running just as many microsoft apps.

    Today, with so much cloud-based SAAS, I can get away without fusion, vmware, etc... but I still ocassionally run into another killer app that needs me to fire up a copy of weendoze.

    lol

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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Brian Rogers on Sun May 23 11:29:21 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Brian Rogers to MRO on Fri May 07 2021 06:20:00

    An interesting survey would be to inquire about the oldest sort of read/write medias people still have :) Ediphone wax/tubes? Open reel tape? 8-tracks?

    The oldest I have are some 8-track tapes (even still have a player), then I have audio cassettes (and a player) as well regular audio CD's.

    As for DVD's, I use them because I can take them to work with me to watch them since I can no longer plug in my portable HD or a thumb drive to my computer at work.
    -+-

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Lightman on Mon May 24 04:07:10 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: Lightman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 23 2021 07:10 pm

    We may be kicking off a cross-platform desktop initiative at work - and "We", I mean "I". Right now, we're all Windows but we have an opportuni to open things up to Linux, BSD and Mac. I need to get familiar with Ma


    It seems like you're a bit late to the party here... BUT, you may be right o time. When we first pushed non-windows in my corporation, the hipster mac guys (I use a mac, but don't tell anyone... oops)... all told everyone about their macs, but everyone of them needed `fusion` or something else to run th killer windows apps. So, at least for a few years, we were "no longer microsoft", but every alternative was running just as many microsoft apps.

    Today, with so much cloud-based SAAS, I can get away without fusion, vmware, etc... but I still ocassionally run into another killer app that needs me to fire up a copy of weendoze.

    lol

    Yeah, it always burns me up when somebody migrates from Operating System A to Operating System B and then spends a lot of resources trying to run programs native to Operating System A on Operating System B, instead of Operating System B's native options.

    For example, people migrating from Windows to Linux and then complaining there is no Windows Media Player or Notepad+ or whatever. Or people migrating from Linux to OpenBSD and complaining OpenBSD has its own coreutils instead of GNU's.

    I am lucky in here and $boss really likes Unix-like systems. Actually, he has no clue about computers at all, but as far as he is concerned all those "Non-Window things" running here Just Work Indifinitely On Cheap Hardware With Minimal Investment. There are just two windows computers in premises, one for managing radiodiagnostics equipment that supports nothing else, and another for dealing with Government web programs that understand Internet Explorer only.


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  • From Lightman@VERT/PEDALION to Arelor on Mon May 24 12:45:00 2021
    Minimal Investment. There are just two windows computers in premises, one managing radiodiagnostics equipment that supports nothing else, and anothe dealing with Government web programs that understand Internet Explorer onl


    IE v8, no doubt.... lol

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Lupine Furmen on Mon May 24 09:01:00 2021
    Hello Lupine;

    Lupine Furmen wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    The oldest I have are some 8-track tapes (even still have a player),
    then I have audio cassettes (and a player) as well regular audio CD's.

    My mom still has an 8-track player/recorder! It must be at least 45 years old if not older!

    As for audio cassettes, I still have a few player/recorders. Not quite audiophile for their day but I have external DBX systems I use on them.

    As for DVD's, I use them because I can take them to work with me to
    watch them since I can no longer plug in my portable HD or a thumb
    drive to my computer at work.

    They do still serve some sort of a purpose :)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Lupine Furmen on Mon May 24 08:01:00 2021
    Hello Lupine Furmen!

    ** On Sunday 23.05.21 - 11:29, Lupine Furmen wrote to Brian Rogers:

    As for DVD's, I use them because I can take them to work
    with me to watch them since I can no longer plug in my
    portable HD or a thumb drive to my computer at work.

    You can watch movies at work?!? What AREN'T you doing when
    you're watching a movie? :D


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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Ogg on Tue May 25 10:17:58 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Ogg to Lupine Furmen on Mon May 24 2021 08:01:00

    You can watch movies at work?!? What AREN'T you doing when
    you're watching a movie? :D

    I'm a gate guard, so there is a lot of down time. Mostly spent watching YouTube, at least until I can get a new laptop so I can play my games while there. :)
    -+-

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Lupine Furmen on Tue May 25 20:18:00 2021
    Lupine Furmen wrote to Ogg <=-

    You can watch movies at work?!? What AREN'T you doing when
    you're watching a movie? :D

    I'm a gate guard, so there is a lot of down time. Mostly spent
    watching YouTube, at least until I can get a new laptop so I can
    play my games while there. :)

    But..... if you're doing that stuff, are you actually "guarding the
    gate"? Does the employer know of these activities, and allow it?



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Gamgee on Wed May 26 08:17:00 2021
    Hello Gamgee!

    ** On Tuesday 25.05.21 - 20:18, Gamgee wrote to Lupine Furmen:

    I'm a gate guard, so there is a lot of down time. Mostly
    spent watching YouTube, at least until I can get a new
    laptop so I can play my games while there. :)

    But..... if you're doing that stuff, are you actually
    "guarding the gate"? Does the employer know of these
    activities, and allow it?

    He's probably not the gun-toting variety. But even if so, I
    can imagine there's probably a lot more non-action going on
    than some steady stream of traffic. So.. if you all you can
    otherwise do is stare into space, why not have a tv or
    something.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Wed May 26 08:12:00 2021
    Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm a gate guard, so there is a lot of down time. Mostly
    spent watching YouTube, at least until I can get a new
    laptop so I can play my games while there. :)

    But..... if you're doing that stuff, are you actually
    "guarding the gate"? Does the employer know of these
    activities, and allow it?

    He's probably not the gun-toting variety. But even if so, I
    can imagine there's probably a lot more non-action going on
    than some steady stream of traffic. So.. if you all you can
    otherwise do is stare into space, why not have a tv or
    something.

    Well.... because if you're watching TV, you'll likely miss the person
    sneaking past the gate.

    If you're being paid to guard a gate, that's what you should be doing.



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  • From Zouf@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gamgee on Fri May 28 11:51:10 2021
    Re: Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Gamgee to Ogg on Wed May 26 2021 08:12 am

    Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm a gate guard, so there is a lot of down time. Mostly
    spent watching YouTube, at least until I can get a new
    laptop so I can play my games while there. :)

    But..... if you're doing that stuff, are you actually
    "guarding the gate"? Does the employer know of these
    activities, and allow it?

    He's probably not the gun-toting variety. But even if so, I
    can imagine there's probably a lot more non-action going on
    than some steady stream of traffic. So.. if you all you can
    otherwise do is stare into space, why not have a tv or
    something.

    Well.... because if you're watching TV, you'll likely miss the person sneaking past the gate.

    If you're being paid to guard a gate, that's what you should be doing.



    ... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.

    In the movies, gate guards are always sitting on their asses chilling while watching TV before they get snuck up on... I assume it's the same in real life.

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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Gamgee on Fri May 28 08:21:54 2021
    Re: Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Gamgee to Lupine Furmen on Tue May 25 2021 20:18:00

    But..... if you're doing that stuff, are you actually "guarding the gate"? Does the employer know of these activities, and allow it?

    Sure, pause video when I need to check someone in, and yes, the plant is the one that allowed access to youtube. :)
    The only times I have to actually do anything is when someone either comes in or leaves (and it be long periods between either of those events) and then in my last 1.5-2 hours of shift when I have to go out and change the safety numbers on 3 signs, and inventory the fire extinguishers (All the ones above ground floor as my partner is afraid of hights.)
    -+-

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  • From Lupine Furmen@VERT/FURFOL to Gamgee on Fri May 28 08:24:17 2021
    Re: Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Gamgee to Ogg on Wed May 26 2021 08:12:00

    Well.... because if you're watching TV, you'll likely miss the person sneaking past the gate.

    No foot traffic, only vehicles, and those are a LOT harder to sneak past me. :) Especially when I have to actually open the gate to let them in or out.
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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun May 30 12:17:00 2021
    I finally found a copy of the movie FM, which a lot of the characters in WKRP seem to be cribbed from. Great live performances in the movie, great 70s rock soundtrack, and the theme song by Donald Fagen.
    I want to watch more music related movies. I got the movie 24 hour party
    people about the music scene in Manchester UK (Happy Mondays/New Order)
    which was pretty good.
    I'll likely put a movie wish list of stuff i need to get physical or
    digital copies of.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MATTHEW MUNSON on Tue Jun 1 06:32:00 2021
    MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    I want to watch more music related movies. I got the movie 24 hour
    party people about the music scene in Manchester UK (Happy Mondays/New Order) which was pretty good.
    I'll likely put a movie wish list of stuff i need to get physical or digital copies of.

    Check out "Sound City - Real to reel" - a documentary about a sound studio
    in Los Angeles and the records that were made there.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ELF on Wed Jun 2 21:09:00 2021
    ELF wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Yeah - I recently replaced my work MacBook Air with an M1 chip model - WOW! Better performance as far as the chip, but also on the battery!

    Yeah. I'll probably just wait for the same type of tech to trickle down
    to the PC gear. :-) Apple. Everyone's RD department. ;-)

    LOL - yep!



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ELF on Wed Jun 2 21:12:00 2021
    ELF wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Our family has a long history of attending the theatre for big, fun
    family movies especially sci-fi movies or big Disney releases. I'm sure we'll want to get back to reliving those memories soon despite the high financial cost. :-)

    Well, you get what you pay for. :-) So if you're paying for the
    experience and it is worth what you pay, then there you go. :-)

    Yeah, I told my family for my birthdays and holidays, I don't want "things" i want memories. So now they usually give gifts like movie
    gift cards, dining gift cards etc and then I use those to go out and
    have fun with the family. Best use of money. :-) I got enough "stuff".

    YES! Love it!

    Now 'stuff' that also makes memories... We like to purchase and use
    firearms, I'm a big game player - those are still "stuff" things, but
    have memories tied to them. :-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Jun 2 21:18:00 2021
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-


    Back when I worked in a Mac shop, people complained about the MBA's
    lack of ports. Now, everyone's caught up. :)

    LOL - YES! I remember when people said - but, but... my CD drive! I
    told them they didn't need them. They insisted, so I got a few for
    each building. Didn't take long at all for them to say, "I never
    use it." LOL

    We may be kicking off a cross-platform desktop initiative at work - and
    by "We", I mean "I". Right now, we're all Windows but we have an opportunity to open things up to Linux, BSD and Mac. I need to get familiar with MacOS again, maybe I should use that to justify getting a Mac in the office this summer. :)

    I think you should! Tell them I said it's okay... ;-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ARELOR on Wed Jun 2 21:40:00 2021
    ARELOR wrote to LIGHTMAN <=-

    Cheap Hardware With Minimal Investment. There are just two windows computers in premises, one for managing radiodiagnostics equipment that supports nothing else, and another for dealing with Government web programs that understand Internet Explorer only.

    That's a big issue here too - coding for IE instead of universal
    or generic...




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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jun 3 16:58:00 2021
    Quoting Jimmy Anderson to Elf <=-

    Now 'stuff' that also makes memories... We like to purchase and use firearms, I'm a big game player - those are still "stuff" things, but
    have memories tied to them. :-)

    True! Yes, we do need some "stuff" to build memories with. Good example
    if your family likes to go shooting or hunting. We like to go camping
    and that requires a lot of "stuff" hahaha. :-)


    ~Elf

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jun 4 10:46:00 2021
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ARELOR <=-

    That's a big issue here too - coding for IE instead of universal
    or generic...

    I'd hoped those days were gone. We ended up rolling out VMWare Fusion, a remote desktop farm and excess Windows licenses because our home-brewed HR system relied on running on IE. This was 2011 or so, and by 2014 everything was browser-agnostic with a preference to Chrome and Safari.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jun 7 12:40:53 2021
    Re: Re: audio books.. game ch
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jun 04 2021 10:46 am

    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ARELOR <=-

    That's a big issue here too - coding for IE instead of universal
    or generic...

    I'd hoped those days were gone. We ended up rolling out VMWare Fusion, a remote desktop farm and excess Windows licenses because our home-brewed HR system relied on running on IE. This was 2011 or so, and by 2014 everything was browser-agnostic with a preference to Chrome and Safari.



    I don't think microsoft's browser is the problem anymore. those other guys are the ones creating bullshit once ina while.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Lupine Furmen on Mon Jun 7 22:47:06 2021
    Re: do people even use dvds a
    By: Lupine Furmen to Ogg on Tue May 25 2021 10:17 am

    Re: do people even use dvds a

    I buy DVD movies cheap then put them in MKV or MPEG4 and put them on my home server.
    I have close to 1000 movies I can watch on any TV in my home via home network streaming.

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  • From Elf@VERT/DMINE to DENN on Tue Jun 8 08:00:00 2021
    Quoting Denn to Lupine Furmen <=-

    Re: do people even use dvds a

    I buy DVD movies cheap then put them in MKV or MPEG4 and put them on
    my home server.
    I have close to 1000 movies I can watch on any TV in my home via home network streaming.

    That's how I do it too! Works great and I'll always have my movies
    without worrying about them being yanked from a streaming service or disappearing from my online purchases.


    ~Elf

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ELF on Wed Jun 30 00:32:00 2021
    ELF wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    @VIA: DMINE
    @MSGID: <60B95EE1.52718.dove-general@dmine.net>
    @REPLY: <60B922DC.119337.dove-gen@vert.synchro.net>
    Quoting Jimmy Anderson to Elf <=-

    Now 'stuff' that also makes memories... We like to purchase and use firearms, I'm a big game player - those are still "stuff" things, but
    have memories tied to them. :-)

    True! Yes, we do need some "stuff" to build memories with. Good example
    if your family likes to go shooting or hunting. We like to go camping
    and that requires a lot of "stuff" hahaha. :-)

    Oh man - we used to tent camp and made SO many memories with friends
    and family alike!!!




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