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  • BBS Client on an old iMac running OS9

    From Knightbbs@VERT/ENSEMBLE to All on Sat Apr 10 00:45:56 2021
    Hey everyone, not sure if this message goes here but, i'm new to BBS'ing. Currently i'm using Syncterm on a Raspberry Pi, but I would like to get even more retro in my BBS experience by actually doing it on a retro computer. I have a fully restored iMac G4 sitting in my office running OS9. I can hook it up to the network and get online and was wondering if you know of any good BBS Clients for that system ? Again sorry if I'm in the wrong part of this sub, please point me to the right board if I am.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Knightbbs on Sat Apr 10 01:47:43 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac running OS9
    By: Knightbbs to All on Sat Apr 10 2021 12:45 am

    Hey everyone, not sure if this message goes here but, i'm new to BBS'ing. Currently i'm using Syncterm on a Raspberry Pi, but I would like to get even more retro in my BBS experience by actually doing it on a retro computer. I have a fully restored iMac G4 sitting in my office running OS9. I can hook it up to the network and get online and was wondering if you know of any good BBS Clients for that system ? Again sorry if I'm in the wrong part of this sub, please point me to the right board if I am.

    Probably SyncTERM on the mac also. I have never used it myself, or a mac at all but there is a mac version of SyncTERM also.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    ... Computers run on faith, not electrons.

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Knightbbs on Sat Apr 10 17:31:07 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac running OS9
    By: Knightbbs to All on Sat Apr 10 2021 12:45 am

    have a fully restored iMac G4 sitting in my office running OS9. I can hook it up to the network and get online and was wondering if you know of any good BBS Clients for that system ? Again sorry if I'm in the wrong part of this sub, please point me to the right board if I am.

    In all honesty, just access Terminal and SSH outbound. If you need to access a telnet based system, you shouldn't have any issues. I don't believe OS9 has the latest OpenSSL libraries so you may have issues with SSH.

    Good luck.

    Brian Klauss <-> Dream Master
    Caught in a Dream | caughtinadream.com a Synchronet BBS

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Dream Master on Sun Apr 11 00:12:00 2021
    On 10 Apr 2021, Dream Master said the following...

    In all honesty, just access Terminal and SSH outbound. If you need to access a telnet based system, you shouldn't have any issues. I don't believe OS9 has the latest OpenSSL libraries so you may have issues with SSH.

    if your term is utf-8 and the bbs doesn't detect it you can do this too:

    telnet bbs.com | iconv -f cp437

    ... assuming you have iconv installed of course :)

    that said i can almost guarantee there's a really nice OS9 term with zmodem and the works.. but it probably originally did (or does) cost money.. and it's probably so burried under modern mac stuff you'd never find it in google without knowing it's name.. lol

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  • From Knightbbs@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dream Master on Sun Apr 11 08:39:57 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac running OS9
    By: Dream Master to Knightbbs on Sat Apr 10 2021 05:31 pm

    In all honesty, just access Terminal and SSH outbound. If you need to access a telnet based system, you shouldn't have any issues. I don't believe OS9 has the latest OpenSSL libraries so you may have issues with SSH.

    You are correct. OS9 Or the latest supported version of OSX on the G4 no longer have the supported ssh libraries :( This makes connecting out via ssh not an option, so only bbs's that still support Telnet remain. Bit of a shame but it is what it is. I was thinking of using my old G3 iMac in the office to get that full retro feel again so I might have a go at Telnet'ing into a BBS instead of SSH.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Knightbbs on Sun Apr 11 19:53:30 2021
    On 4/11/2021 6:39 AM, Knightbbs wrote:
    In all honesty, just access Terminal and SSH outbound. If you need
    to access a telnet based system, you shouldn't have any issues. I
    don't believe OS9 has the latest OpenSSL libraries so you may have
    issues with SSH.

    You are correct. OS9 Or the latest supported version of OSX on the G4
    no longer have the supported ssh libraries :( This makes connecting
    out via ssh not an option, so only bbs's that still support Telnet
    remain. Bit of a shame but it is what it is. I was thinking of using
    my old G3 iMac in the office to get that full retro feel again so I
    might have a go at Telnet'ing into a BBS instead of SSH.

    Was going to suggest Linux... looks like 32bit PPC is effectively a
    dead/old platform without recent support for Debian/Ubuntu at least.

    Some recent/active options:

    https://voidlinux.org/
    http://mintppc.nl/
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    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Al on Sun Apr 11 20:50:00 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac
    By: Al to Knightbbs on Sat Apr 10 2021 01:47 am

    Probably SyncTERM on the mac also. I have never used it myself, or a mac at

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    I use SyncTERM on a modern Mac and it works great



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  • From Knightbbs@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Tracker1 on Mon Apr 12 00:55:24 2021
    Re: Re: BBS Client on an old iMac running OS9
    By: Tracker1 to Knightbbs on Sun Apr 11 2021 07:53 pm

    https://voidlinux.org/
    http://mintppc.nl/

    I'll give those a try. I have an old iMac (intel) in the attic running Raspbian OS (Linux runs fine on these machines). Its been a while since I ran a PPC Linux version so i'll see what mintppc looks like. Thank you for the suggestion.

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Knightbbs on Fri Apr 16 09:00:00 2021
    Knightbbs wrote to All <=-

    Hey everyone, not sure if this message goes here but, i'm new to
    BBS'ing. Currently i'm using Syncterm on a Raspberry Pi, but I would
    like to get even more retro in my BBS experience by actually doing it
    on a retro computer. I have a fully restored iMac G4 sitting in my
    office running OS9. I can hook it up to the network and get online and
    was wondering if you know of any good BBS Clients for that system ?
    Again sorry if I'm in the wrong part of this sub, please point me to
    the right board if I am.

    BBS's don't actually use "clients." You connect to them via a "terminal emulation program." Anything that would support telnet, rlogin or ssh protocols should work. Telnet is the least secure, rlogin and ssh are better. Telnet is probably the most commonly available and supported protocol. As with PCs the choice of terminal software with Macs will largely be a matter of personal preference. Google is probably your best friend in your search.

    -==*>Weatherman<*==-


    ... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 19960
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  • From lynx769@VERT/BTTMLSS to Weatherman on Sat Apr 17 06:34:00 2021
    BBS's don't actually use "clients." You connect to them via a "terminal emulation program." Anything that would support telnet, rlogin or ssh protocols should work. Telnet is the least secure, rlogin and ssh are bet Telnet is probably the most commonly available and supported protocol. As

    Sorry, but "terminal emulation programs" are clients if you are using telnet, rlogin, or ssh to access a BBS. It's also correct to say that the BBS is the server. The Internet is built on the client/server model.

    Lachlan

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Weatherman on Sat Apr 17 08:27:32 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac
    By: Weatherman to Knightbbs on Fri Apr 16 2021 09:00 am

    BBS's don't actually use "clients." You connect to them via a "terminal emulation program." Anything that would support telnet, rlogin or ssh protocols should work. Telnet is the least secure, rlogin and ssh are better. Telnet is probably the most commonly available and supported


    you mean a telnet client or rlogin or ssh client?
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  • From Otto Reverse@VERT to Knightbbs on Fri May 7 10:00:00 2021
    Knightbbs wrote to All <=-

    Hey everyone, not sure if this message goes here but, i'm new to
    BBS'ing. Currently i'm using Syncterm on a Raspberry Pi, but I would
    like to get even more retro in my BBS experience by actually doing it
    on a retro computer. I have a fully restored iMac G4 sitting in my
    office running OS9. I can hook it up to the network and get online and
    was wondering if you know of any good BBS Clients for that system ?
    Again sorry if I'm in the wrong part of this sub, please point me to
    the right board if I am.

    For telnet look for MacTelnet or Better Telnet 2. For serial use
    ZTerm. Probably can find them at macintoshgarden.org.

    Cheers,
    Doug

    ... Living on the edge...the trailing edge that is!
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  • From Knightbbs@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Otto Reverse on Tue Jun 8 01:10:49 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac
    By: Otto Reverse to Knightbbs on Fri May 07 2021 10:00 am

    For telnet look for MacTelnet or Better Telnet 2. For serial use
    ZTerm. Probably can find them at macintoshgarden.org.

    Thank you sir for the tip:) I might dig up the iMac now for some BBS'ing fun on a true retro machine. One of the tings i'm using right now is running Syncterm on my Raspberry Pi and connecting to it over SSH Using my iPad. Its quite funky to have an "advanced" device connected to a "classic" medium , but aside from some minor glitches it works pretty darn well too :)

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  • From rathoreshubhamm8@VERT/SILCHAT to Knightbbs on Wed Aug 18 13:48:00 2021
    OS9 Or the latest supported version of OSX on the G4 no longer have the supported ssh libraries https://forpc.onl/free-fire-for-pc/ https://jfi.cam/jiofilocalhtml/

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to rathoreshubhamm8 on Wed Aug 18 12:59:57 2021
    Re: BBS Client on an old iMac running OS9
    By: rathoreshubhamm8 to Knightbbs on Wed Aug 18 2021 01:48 pm

    OS9 Or the latest supported version of OSX on the G4 no longer have the supported ssh libraries https://forpc.onl/free-fire-for-pc/ https://jfi.cam/jiofilocalhtml/

    I haven't read the article, but I'm not sure what you mean by an old version of an OS no longer having the supported libraries.. An old version of an OS doesn't change, so it couldn't just no longer have a library. Do you mean the new software has changed and now requires a different library, or a new version of the library that isn't available for the old OS?

    Nightfox

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