We have spectrum internet here in NC, we are renting their flavor of router. We want something we can control better and not pay rent on. What in your opinion is a great router? Have a good weekend friends ¨.

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Is it just a router? Or is it a modem router?

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Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Rixter to All on Fri Jun 07 2024 13:06:57

We have spectrum internet here in NC, we are renting their flavor of router. We want something we can control better and not pay rent on. What in your opinion is a great router? Have a good weekend friends ¡.

What router are you using from spectrum? I love the latest one they have sent me.
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Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Rixter to All on Fri Jun 07 2024 01:06 pm

We have spectrum internet here in NC, we are renting their flavor of router. We want something we can control better and not pay rent on. What in your opinion is a great router? Have a good weekend friends ¡.

I think you mean cable modem, right.
double check, you might not have to pay a fee. that went away when twc became charter.

https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/compliant-modems-charter-network
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Denn wrote to Rixter <=-

Is it just a router? Or is it a modem router?

Well this should be good. A "conversation" between two people who don't
know how to quote messages to provide context.



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Re: Routers that work well wi
By: Rixter to All on Fri Jun 07 2024 02:06 pm

We have spectrum internet here in NC, we are renting their flavor of router. want something we can control better and not pay rent on. What in your opini is a great router? Have a good weekend friends ¿.

I like Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 4 https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-ER-4-EdgeRouter-4/dp/B078PGCGN2

or cheaper Ubiquiti Networks EdgeRouter X, 4-Port Gigabit Router, ER-X (Router, ER-X) https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-EdgeRouter-Gigabit-ER-X/dp/B011N1IT2A

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Re: Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Gamgee to Denn on Fri Jun 07 2024 07:56 pm

Well this should be good. A "conversation" between two people who don't know how to quote messages to provide context.

Like you can't follow a thread, Not every single thing needs to be quoted.

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just the router. Thanks I am trying to break away from the 10 a month rental billing for the router. its separate on my cable bill.

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yes, cable modem

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everytime i used quote i get a flurry of complaints about > symbols, so i quit quoting. What brand of router are you using was the question. Do you have a favorite?

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Re: Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Gamgee to Denn on Fri Jun 07 2024 07:56 pm

Well this should be good. A "conversation" between two people who don't know how to quote messages to provide context.

Like you can't follow a thread, Not every single thing needs to
be quoted.

When using an Offline Mail Reader, like I (and many others) do, the
thread isn't visible. Instead of trying to do it differently than
everyone else, and differently from the way it's been done for decades,
why don't you just quote the messages you are replying to? It's not difficult. If you need some pointers on how to do it, just ask.
Thanks.



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Rixter wrote to Gamgee <=-

everytime i used quote i get a flurry of complaints about >
symbols, so i quit quoting.

That's because you're not doing it right. The ">" symbol should go on
the left side of the text you are quoting (what the previous poster
said), but *NOT* in front of the new text that you are writing. It's
really not difficult, and most any editor will do it automatically. If
you need some pointers on how to do it, just ask.

What brand of router are you using was the question. Do you have a favorite?

I'm using an old small form factor PC, running a specialized Linux
router distro called "IPFire". Very configurable and works great. I've
been using it for about 15 years.

Prior to that, I used to use various Linksys brand routers, often with a
third party software (OpenWRT / DD-WRT) installed. They seemed to work
well also.



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Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Rixter to Denn on Sat Jun 08 2024 07:31 am

just the router. Thanks I am trying to break away from the 10 a month rental billing for the router. its separate on my cable bill.

dude. you need to start quoting every time.
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Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Rixter to MRO on Sat Jun 08 2024 07:32 am

yes, cable modem

quote your msgs every time.
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just the router. Thanks I am trying to break away from the 10 a month rental billing for the router. its separate on my cable bill.

I have a Netgear WNR2000 that gets the job done. Note that it is a router
only and not a cable modem. For the modem, I have a Motorola SURFboard
5101U. You will want to check and make sure that the modem is compatable
with your provider. It should be but you will want to make sure.

Here, the last time I changed a modem out, I had to contact my provider to
let them know some info (MAC ID, I think) so they could reset it on their
end.

I do not have any experience with a modem/router combo so I cannot offer
any advice there.


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Re: Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Gamgee to Denn on Fri Jun 07 2024 07:56 pm

Well this should be good. A
"conversation" between two people wh
don't
know how to quote messages to provid
context.

There /are/ tons of BBSes out there
that don't even have a quoting feature,
and somehow people get by just fine :).

The only reason I'm saying this is that
I notice a lot of posts telling people
to quote. Even from users that didn't
have unquoted messages directed at
them.

Big effin' deal, they didn't quote. The
headers do say what message it was a
response to and it's not that hard to
jump back to it yourself. On those
BBSes I mentioned with no quoting
feature, they don't even have that!

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phigan wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Gamgee to Denn on Fri Jun 07 2024 07:56 pm

Well this should be good. A
"conversation" between two people wh
don't
know how to quote messages to provid
context.

There /are/ tons of BBSes out there
that don't even have a quoting feature,
and somehow people get by just fine :).

There are *some*, perhaps, but not many would agree with "tons" of them.

The only reason I'm saying this is that
I notice a lot of posts telling people
to quote. Even from users that didn't
have unquoted messages directed at
them.

Big effin' deal, they didn't quote. The
headers do say what message it was a
response to and it's not that hard to
jump back to it yourself. On those
BBSes I mentioned with no quoting
feature, they don't even have that!

Yeah, maybe on the 40-column toys you're talking about. Hello. Welcome
to the 21st century and modern BBS'ing. Before you try to whip out the "retro" card, I'm reasonably sure I've been doing this longer than you,
and even in the early 90's quoting was the de-facto standard on any kind
of BBS. The people doing the non-quoting thing here lately are on modern
BBS software and are either ignorant or stubborn to not be doing it the
way that is generally accepted. Your mileage may vary, but I don't care.



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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: phigan to Gamgee on Sat Jun 08 2024 15:43:29

Big effin' deal, they didn't quote. The headers do say what message it was a response to and it's not that hard to jump back to it yourself. On those BBSes I mentioned with no quoting feature, they don't even have that!

Some folks arent happy unless theyre complaining about something.. regardless of what message reader someone is using, it's fairly easy to follow a conversation, or if it's that complicated, just hit next :-)
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sat Jun 08 2024 06:39 pm

"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

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Re: Re: Routers that work wel
By: phigan to Gamgee on Sat Jun 08 2024 04:43 pm

I agree .. sorta


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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sat Jun 08 2024 06:39 pm

Yeah, maybe on the 40-column toys
you're talking about. Hello. Welco

You'd be surprised how many C= BBSes
there are, let alone all 8bits.

card, I'm reasonably sure I've been
doing this longer than you,

Moved to the States in '86. Been at it
since then.

BBS software and are either ignorant
stubborn to not be doing it the

One pet pieve I have regarding quoting
is people who insist on quoting an
entire message rather than the relevant
bits. What's your excuse for that? You
know it's easy to select which lines to
quote, right?

It being whatever year it is is
irrelevant. Some of us like to use old
computers. I'm on a C64 right now, in
fact. And ooOoOoOoo look at me quoting
just the relevant bits! So hard.

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: phigan to Gamgee on Sat Jun 08 2024 15:43:29

Big effin' deal, they didn't quote. The headers do say what message it was a response to and it's not that hard to jump back to it yourself. On those BBSes I mentioned with no quoting feature, they don't even have that!

Some folks arent happy unless theyre complaining about
something.. regardless of what message reader someone is using,
it's fairly easy to follow a conversation, or if it's that
complicated, just hit next :-)

Another one who doesn't understand what an "offline mail reader" is.
<sigh>



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phigan wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sat Jun 08 2024 06:39 pm

Yeah, maybe on the 40-column toys
you're talking about. Hello. Welco

You'd be surprised how many C= BBSes
there are, let alone all 8bits.

Sure, there are some around, as I said in my previous message.

card, I'm reasonably sure I've been
doing this longer than you,

Moved to the States in '86. Been at it
since then.

Okay, about the same then. Not sure why you don't remember that quoting
has always been done, in exactly the same way. <SHRUG>

BBS software and are either ignorant
stubborn to not be doing it the

One pet pieve I have regarding quoting
is people who insist on quoting an
entire message rather than the relevant
bits. What's your excuse for that? You
know it's easy to select which lines to
quote, right?

I do *NOT* usually quote an entire message, and do exactly what you're suggesting - show only the relevant bits.

It being whatever year it is is
irrelevant. Some of us like to use old
computers. I'm on a C64 right now, in
fact. And ooOoOoOoo look at me quoting
just the relevant bits! So hard.

So, in a previous message, you said it *WAS* hard on some computers, and that's why some people don't do it. Now you say it is very easy. Quite
a flip-flop there. So is your position now that the non-quoters are
doing it out of willful stubborn-ness or ignorance?



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Hello phigan,

On Sun, Jun 09 2024 12:01:44 -0500, you wrote:

It being whatever year it is is
irrelevant. Some of us like to use old
computers. I'm on a C64 right now, in
fact. And ooOoOoOoo look at me quoting
just the relevant bits! So hard.

I think that's the direction they're going with this. It's not hard to do, and it (quoting relevant bits) makes discussions that much easier to follow. Your 40 columns, and quoting, seems to work just fine for what it is.

When someone doesn't quote a message they're replying to, I usually don't try to go back to whatever message they're replying to to try to understand the conversation. I just hit the "next" key.

As far back as I can remember, whether it be BBSing, newsgroups, web forums, etc. Quoting has always been kind of an "etiquette" thing. If you don't choose to, that's fine, but you probably won't get as many responses as you would if you did. :)

Regards,
Nick

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"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

:D


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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: phigan to Gamgee on Sat Jun 08 2024 03:43 pm

There /are/ tons of BBSes out there
that don't even have a quoting feature,
and somehow people get by just fine :).

Yep... we know about those don't we. This is one reason I built quoting into my ATConnect terminal program for the Atari 8-bit BBSes...

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Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Accession to phigan on Sun Jun 09 2024 08:00 am

As far back as I can remember, whether it be BBSing, newsgroups, web forums, etc. Quoting has always been kind of an "etiquette" thing. If you don't choose to, that's fine, but you probably won't get as many responses as you would if you did. :)

I think they are thinking only about themselves (not intentionally) and think they in the same environment as a one on one chat.

I usually remind them to quote a few times and when they don't I just twitfilter them. These types of people are only around for weeks anyways.

I guess this guy said something about people complaining about his ">" , which is pure bullshit.
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Bf2k+ to phigan on Sun Jun 09 2024 07:40 am

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: phigan to Gamgee on Sat Jun 08 2024 03:43 pm

There /are/ tons of BBSes out there
that don't even have a quoting feature,
and somehow people get by just fine :).

Yep... we know about those don't we. This is one reason I built quoting into my ATConnect terminal program for the Atari 8-bit BBSes...

I'm not sure i've ever seen a bbs with no quoting. I'm sure there might be a few that don't. It's not one i'd like to use for messaging.
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Denn to Gamgee on Sat Jun 08 2024 20:06:31

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sat Jun 08 2024 06:39 pm

"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

Thats not correct....

your message

There.. Thats better..

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 07:35:00

Some folks arent happy unless theyre complaining about something..
regardless of what message reader someone is using, it's fairly easy to
follow a conversation, or if it's that complicated, just hit next :-)

Another one who doesn't understand what an "offline mail reader" is. <sigh>

I understand fully what an offline mailreader is.. It's not like it's rocket science to follow threads in an area that i'm sure has no more than ten messages at a time.. and as you say with bbsing being so advanced now, qwk mail can be instantanious, and theres so many ways to keep up with it.. it really sounds like you are just trying to nitpick small things that really dont matter..

How bout this.. If you cannot follow a thread that is'nt quoted.. Just don't follow it.. don't reply to it..

quit whining and nit-picking everything you see, it's been old since the 90's man.

Seems the future went off and left all the "get off my lawn" old farts in the bbs world, or either this is the only place some of you feel secure being your true self, if you acted like this in the real world i'm sure you live a fairly dull, lonely life because people just don't want to be around you.
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Hello MRO,

On Sun, Jun 09 2024 15:33:20 -0500, you wrote:

I think they are thinking only about themselves (not intentionally) and think they in the same environment as a one on one chat.

That's possible. But in this case, there may actually be something wrong.

I guess this guy said something about people complaining about his ">" , which is pure bullshit.

Two messages before the one I'm replying to, was from you to "all". There, it seems as though when you quoted the text it wrapped the ">" characters into the rewrapped quoted text. Here is one of the paragraphs you quoted:

" >I suspect that for people who were already adults and working "
" professionals in >the 1970s and 1980s when BBS'ing as a hobby took off, "
" they are now in their >80s and 90s, if not older, and we'll continue to "
" see the same sort of trickle >of long goodbyes. "

Don't quote that again, as it will mess up even more, but there is definitely something wierd happening somewhere.

Let's figure out what the actual problem is, and get it fixed. Most of us aren't trying to harp on anyone, or put them down. Personally, if something is indeed broken, let's figure it out and get it fixed!

Regards,
Nick

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On 09 Jun 2024, kk4qbn said the following...

How bout this.. If you cannot follow a thread that is'nt quoted.. Just don't follow it.. don't reply to it..

quit whining and nit-picking everything you see, it's been old since the 90's man.

i think of it like forming a line at a busy store, or putting a cart back into the corral. it's a pretty low bar to get over, quoting a message.

to borrow a ham radio example: have you ever heard someone calling CQ on a VHF repeater? i have a feeling you know what anyone that responds is going to
say to that person. and someone will too, every time.

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Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Accession to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 11:35 am

Two messages before the one I'm replying to, was from you to "all". There, it seems as though when you quoted the text it wrapped the ">" characters into the rewrapped quoted text. Here is one of the paragraphs you quoted:

Don't quote that again, as it will mess up even more, but there is definitely something wierd happening somewhere.

Let's figure out what the actual problem is, and get it fixed. Most of us aren't trying to harp on anyone, or put them down. Personally, if something is indeed broken, let's figure it out and get it fixed!

oh i cut and pasted that and added the ">"
i didn't think it would get mangled.

Let's figure out what the actual problem is, and get it fixed. Most of us aren't trying to harp on anyone, or put them down. Personally, if something is indeed broken, let's figure it out and get it fixed!

dunno, is it really that big of a deal? i think it happens when people quote quotes sometimes.

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sun Jun 09 2024 08:21 am

I do *NOT* usually quote an entire
message, and do exactly what you're

And you're doing it now because...?

So, in a previous message, you said
*WAS* hard on some computers, and

No, I said plenty of BBSes don't have a
quoting function. Maybe your offline
mail reader is impeding your reading
abilities?

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to phigan on Sat Jun 08 2024 06:39 pm

"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

Thats not correct....

your message

There.. Thats better..

Dumb and Dumber.

The good news is that both of these dimwits will get tired of "running a
BBS" and be gone in a few months.



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kk4qbn wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 07:35:00

Some folks arent happy unless theyre complaining about something..
regardless of what message reader someone is using, it's fairly easy to
follow a conversation, or if it's that complicated, just hit next :-)

Another one who doesn't understand what an "offline mail reader" is. <sigh>

I understand fully what an offline mailreader is.. It's not like

No, you clearly don't.

it's rocket science to follow threads in an area that i'm sure
has no more than ten messages at a time.. and as you say with

You are not reading the same nets/echos I am if you think that.

bbsing being so advanced now, qwk mail can be instantanious, and
theres so many ways to keep up with it.. it really sounds like
you are just trying to nitpick small things that really dont
matter..

They do matter. Maybe not to you, but to most.

How bout this.. If you cannot follow a thread that is'nt quoted..
Just don't follow it.. don't reply to it..

How about I reply to what I want, and you can do the same.

quit whining and nit-picking everything you see, it's been old
since the 90's man.

No whining coming from here. All the whining is coming from those who
don't know anything, and how things are done.

Seems the future went off and left all the "get off my lawn" old
farts in the bbs world, or either this is the only place some of
you feel secure being your true self, if you acted like this in
the real world i'm sure you live a fairly dull, lonely life
because people just don't want to be around you.

Hahaha, so you're not only an "entitled" n00b, but clueless about most everything. I see. Okay.

At least you and the other couple of recent resident morons will be gone
soon enough, when the "BBS experience" is no longer new and shiny for
you.



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Re: Routers that work well with spectrum internet
By: Rixter to Denn on Sat Jun 08 2024 07:31 am

just the router. Thanks I am trying to break away from the 10 a month rental billing for the router. its separate on my cable bill.

Which features are you looking for in a router?

There is a difference between a plug-and-play router with only the basics and a 200 bucks prosumer router with quasi-enterprise features :-)


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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: fusion to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 14:38:00

quit whining and nit-picking everything you see, it's been old since the
90's man.

i think of it like forming a line at a busy store, or putting a cart back into the corral. it's a pretty low bar to get over, quoting a message.

to borrow a ham radio example: have you ever heard someone calling CQ on a VHF repeater? i have a feeling you know what anyone that responds is going to say to that person. and someone will too, every time.

Even though I do want to say something, and have in the past, These days with something like that I just change the channel..
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 15:02:00

Dumb and Dumber.

The good news is that both of these dimwits will get tired of "running a BBS" and be gone in a few months.

Never really get tired of running a bbs, just get tired of seeing constant messages from the likes of you..
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 15:09:00

Hahaha, so you're not only an "entitled" n00b, but clueless about most everything. I see. Okay.

what keeps making you think I'm a n00b?? I was on dovenet before the best part of you run out your moms mouth.. keep telling yourself that what you say and think matters.. it does'nt.. people like you need that type of validation to survive.. I know this because I was the same way.. then I grew up..

maybe you can before you get too old too.. then you'll be just like your best bud MRO, At first I thought you to be pretty cool because you were arguing with him.. Then it did'nt take too long to realize you're just like him.. "Birds of a feather"..

Ya'll keep going with that self-validation, we all know you're better, smarter and faster than us.. I don't know why you need to keep reminding everyone..

Citius-Altius-Fortius..

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kk4qbn wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 15:02:00

Dumb and Dumber.

The good news is that both of these dimwits will get tired of "running a BBS" and be gone in a few months.

Never really get tired of running a bbs, just get tired of seeing
constant messages from the likes of you..

And yet... you keep replying. Like a broken record.

So do what you and your 'Dumb and Dumber' new buddy keep harping on - hit
the Next key and STFU. Easy!



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kk4qbn wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 15:09:00

Hahaha, so you're not only an "entitled" n00b, but clueless about most everything. I see. Okay.

what keeps making you think I'm a n00b?? I was on dovenet before
the best part of you run out your moms mouth.. keep telling

Yeah, real classy comment. You're making yourself look good here.

maybe you can before you get too old too.. then you'll be just
like your best bud MRO, At first I thought you to be pretty cool
because you were arguing with him.. Then it did'nt take too long
to realize you're just like him.. "Birds of a feather"..

If you think me and MRO are "best buds", you're *FAR* more clueless than previously thought. Dumb and dirty, both.

Go away, dimwit.



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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Sun Jun 09 2024 10:39 am

I'm not sure i've ever seen a bbs with no quoting. I'm sure there might be a few that don't. It's not one i'd like to use for messaging.

None of the Atari 8-bit BBSes I ran (beginning in Jan 1984) had quoting. Some of them had to delete their own initialization lines in order to free up enough memory to run and do much of anything... it was what it was back then. But these "40-col toys" were the predecessors to what we are doing now and back then, they were pretty fucking fantastic.

:)

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: kk4qbn to Denn on Sun Jun 09 2024 11:13 am

"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

Thats not correct....

your message

There.. Thats better..

But I put your message in " " quotes Lol.
OK here it is.

"your message"

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 03:02 pm

"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

Thats not correct....

your message

There.. Thats better..

Dumb and Dumber.

That just proves that you're a dolt, you have no concept of humor.

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 03:09 pm

Some folks arent happy unless theyre complaining about something..
regardless of what message reader someone is using, it's fairly easy to
follow a conversation, or if it's that complicated, just hit next :-)

Another one who doesn't understand what an "offline mail reader" is. <sigh>

I understand fully what an offline mailreader is.. It's not like

No, you clearly don't.

Yes he does, you're just being a B(.)(.)B.

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 08:57 pm

The good news is that both of these dimwits will get tired of "running a BBS" and be gone in a few months.

Never really get tired of running a bbs, just get tired of seeing constant messages from the likes of you..

And yet... you keep replying. Like a broken record.

So do what you and your 'Dumb and Dumber' new buddy keep harping on - hit the Next key and STFU. Easy!

Probably been running a BBS longer than you, had my 1st BBS in 1986.
Why don't you gripe over real issues that actually matter?.
quit being a little B(.)(.)B.

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 07:41 pm

Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Sun Jun 09 2024 10:39 am

I'm not sure i've ever seen a bbs with no quoting. I'm sure there might be a few that don't. It's not one i'd like to use for messaging.

None of the Atari 8-bit BBSes I ran (beginning in Jan 1984) had quoting. Some of them had to delete their own initialization lines in order to free up enough memory to run and do much of anything... it was what it was back then. But these "40-col toys" were the predecessors to what we are doing now and back then, they were pretty fucking fantastic.

oh i've used atari bbses but i haven't used their msging features because they seem so limited. i guess i'm spoiled.
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Re: Re: Routers that work wel
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 04:09 pm

At least you and the other couple of recent resident morons will be gone soon enough, when the "BBS experience" is no longer new and shiny for
you.

From high above ... a turd drops into the bowl with a "plop". Thanks.

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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 20:57:00

So do what you and your 'Dumb and Dumber' new buddy keep harping on - hit the Next key and STFU. Easy!

Hey bud, you're the one that keeps replying to everyones messages crying about crap, take a page from your own book and just hit next we're tired of hearing your whining..

... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.

Takes one to know one.. I own my shit. how about you there einstein..
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 21:01:00

Hahaha, so you're not only an "entitled" n00b, but clueless about most
everything. I see. Okay.

what keeps making you think I'm a n00b?? I was on dovenet before the best
part of you run out your moms mouth.. keep telling

Yeah, real classy comment. You're making yourself look good here.

I don't care how I look to you or people like you.. You formed your opinion of me that day you errantly told me I was wrong in a message thread myself and a developer was having about his software that had not a damn think to do with you. then when you were proven wrong, you were still so full of yourself that you just let the conversation kinda "go" away without a oh I'm sorry or screw you or anything..

I don't have a need to prove myself to people like you anymore.. Now I just live to piss people like you off, and I know the right buttons to push..

Einstein.. thats a good name for you.. since you know everything about.. well everything... wow you're just so unfoulable.. I bet your crap don't stink either. I was always taught not to hate the person, just to hate their ways.
I try so hard to stick to those teachings, unlike some people I was raised with some dignity and to treat others as I'd like to be treated, but people who act like you just really bring the worst out of me. I will continue to troll you until either you go away or you just filter me, or I get kicked off DoveNet, but hey Rob lets people like you and MRO stay on here with the crap yall do to others, so I don't worry about that much.. (nothing against you Rob, I know exactly why you don't ban people) free speech is a good thing. So um.. until next time.. Take Care..

maybe you can before you get too old too.. then you'll be just like your
best bud MRO, At first I thought you to be pretty cool because you were
arguing with him.. Then it did'nt take too long to realize you're just
like him.. "Birds of a feather"..

If you think me and MRO are "best buds", you're *FAR* more clueless than previously thought. Dumb and dirty, both.

I only call you Best Buds because you act just like him, You are a bully who is too full of himself to ever be wrong about anything, even though you are wrong a good bit, Just Like he Is.

Hell yall are Twins.. Call Me Dumb and Dumber all you want with anyone around here.. I don't care.. I'd rather be Dumb than to be an egocentric twit. Being dumb can be changed by a little education and I learn something new everyday. Egocentric Jerks like you never change and you end up dying lonely in some basement somwehere vacuming cheetos out of your keyboard.

As I said earlier.. Take care.
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Denn to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 20:49:58

"your message"

there! I quoted your message.

Thats not correct....

your message

There.. Thats better..

But I put your message in " " quotes Lol. OK here it is.

"your message"

Lol..
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I guess this guy said something about people complaining about his ">" , which >is pure bullshit.

He had at least one message in one of the Synchronet support echoes where the whole thing, including his respsone, came out with ">" at the beginning of
each line. I don't know if anyone "complained" but at least one person,
DM, pointed it out to him and mentioned it made it difficult to figure out
what text was the poster's and what was quoted.

Sounds like he may have an issue on his end. I also got the impression he
is visual impaired which may also make it more difficult to notice (for
him) what is going on when he replies.


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I'm not sure i've ever seen a bbs with no quoting. I'm sure there might be a few that don't. It's not one i'd like to use for messaging.

I can remember when quoting was introduced into some popular BBS softwares.
Before then, you either had to be using an offline reader that did
quoting, or you had to manually add it yourself somehow.


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Re: Routers that work well wi
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 07:21 am

I guess this guy said something about people complaining about his ">" , which >is pure bullshit.

He had at least one message in one of the Synchronet support echoes where the whole thing, including his respsone, came out with ">" at the beginning of
each line. I don't know if anyone "complained" but at least one person,
DM, pointed it out to him and mentioned it made it difficult to figure out what text was the poster's and what was quoted.

Sounds like he may have an issue on his end. I also got the impression he is visual impaired which may also make it more difficult to notice (for
him) what is going on when he replies.

maybe he typed it in there by hand because that's what he thought he was supposed to do.
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Re: Re: Routers that work well wit
By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 08:57 pm

the Next key and STFU. Easy!

If only you took your own advice...

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Sounds like he may have an issue on his end. I also got the impression he is visual impaired which may also make it more difficult to notice (for him) what is going on when he replies.

maybe he typed it in there by hand because that's what he thought he was supposed to do.

also quite possible.


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