• Common Cold

    From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Sat Jan 9 08:35:57 2021
    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

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  • From Ogg@VERT/TRMB to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 08:22:20 2021
    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    Now that the populace is inculcated to believe that humans are icky disgusting biological creatures spreading germs everywhere, there is a market - and willing guinea pigs.

    I had a couple visit my shop some time ago. The wife had no problem venturing in, but the husband said (out loud to make sure I heard it) "he's not wearing a mask; he's breathing on everything."

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  • From Kevin@VERT/MMN to HUSTLER on Sat Jan 9 08:54:00 2021
    On 09/01/2021 08:35, HUSTLER wrote to ALL:

    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So why can't they
    develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    To answer both questions :

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-havent-we-cured-the-common-cold- yet/

    "The main challenge with rhinovirus is the number of circulating strains," ...

    ThereÆs at least 160 different strains, or serotypes, of rhinovirus, Barlow says. That
    means cracking the cold isnÆt so much looking for one solution to one problem as it is
    trying to design a master key to open hundreds of different locks at once. ôItÆs incredibly
    difficult to create a vaccine or drug that will target all of those 160 [strains],ö Barlow
    says."

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/08/how-has-a-covid-vaccine-been- developed-so-quickly

    "How has it been possible to develop vaccines against Covid-19 in less than a year?

    A key consideration is funding û public and private cash has been poured into the race
    for a Covid vaccine, pushing aside the usual financial concerns facing pharmaceutical
    companies. WhatÆs more, demand and urgency are high."

    Delays in creating vaccines, as with anything else, are affected by cash flow for research
    and development. Nobody is going to go out of their way to drop funds on research
    they can't make a bank off of.

    This also doesn't factor in that there has already been decades of work on coronaviruses
    already, COVID-19 is just a mere arsehole member of the coronavirus family.

    And before we start whatabouting cancer and AIDS, those are another kettle of fish in
    terms of what they are.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 15:48:00 2021
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    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So
    why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    They did. It was just as effective against the cold than the COVID vaccine is against COVID.


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  • From Warp 4@VERT/OTHETA to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 20:44:00 2021
    On 09 Jan 2021, HusTler said the following...

    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So
    why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    Probably because there are so many variations of the common cold. Granted, I believe the COVID-19 is in the same family of virii as the flu and the common cold.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 20:10:43 2021
    Re: Common Cold
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Jan 09 2021 08:35 am

    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    The "common cold" is caused by many, many different viruses and bacteria.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Warp 4 on Sun Jan 10 01:58:59 2021
    Re: Re: Common Cold
    By: Warp 4 to HusTler on Sat Jan 09 2021 08:44 pm

    On 09 Jan 2021, HusTler said the following...

    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So
    why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    Probably because there are so many variations of the common cold. Granted, I believe the COVID-19 is in the same family of virii as the flu and the common cold.


    i was so sick when i was a kid my medical records were like 2 phone books when they pulled it for the marines.

    i do not get the cold or flu. not since age 18. i got a wicked cold once but i think that was some canadian one where you are sick for 60+ days.

    so i am essentially innoculated for my region of midwest usa i believe. i truly do not get sick ever unless it's eating some garbage food.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to HusTler on Sun Jan 10 19:03:00 2021
    On 01-09-21 08:35, HusTler wrote to All <=-

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    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So
    why can't they develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?

    The "common cold" is actually caused by a number of virus. Rhinoviruses are a common cause, but there are some coronaviruses that cause colds too, so we're not dealing with one virus, but multitudes that cause the same symptoms, which means the vaccine would need multiple components, and it may need to be updated, like the flu vaccine.

    Anyway, this is a _much_ bigger job with lower returns (not as many lives to save, since colds are much less likely to be fatal), and the risk profile would either be the same or a bit higher, compared to other vaccines (normally, vaccine risks are very low, but non zero).


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  • From Badopcode@VERT to Kevin on Mon Jan 11 07:35:35 2021
    Re: RE: Common Cold
    By: Kevin to HUSTLER on Sat Jan 09 2021 08:54 am

    So they developed a vaccination for Covid-19 in less then a year. So why can't they
    develop a vaccination or cure for the common cold?
    To answer both questions :
    "The main challenge with rhinovirus is the number of circulating strains,"

    There is no money in making people never get sick, versus treating side effects. But ya, there really is no way to make a human immune system work in a uniform way with every strain of virus. If we could cure the common cold than curing HIV would be a walk in the park. To be blunt honest the shot for COVID-19 is a placebo. The shot works for just one strain which has pretty much been long gone now and mutated to something else. The order of nature is that it's actually not good for the virus to kill it's host. Pandemics are caused by a bad mutated strain that actually kill the host. It's why they are rare, they hit hard and quick and after a year or so fade away. If the virus can't spread itself because it killed it's host than that strain quickly gets removed by natural selection.
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