Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Thu Apr 17 2025 13:00:22

Same here (and I think it was spelled as Netscape, with lowercase 's').

<Psssst>...Careful, online folk hate it when you correct their spelling/grammar. Trust me, I know. ;)

The formal name was Netscape Navigator. They later dropped the Navigator part.

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Re: Browsers
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Fri Apr 18 2025 10:42 am

The formal name was Netscape Navigator. They later dropped the Navigator part.

I remember. And sometimes I referred to it as "Nutscrape Masturbator"... :P

Nightfox

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Re: Browsers
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Fri Apr 18 2025 10:42 am

The formal name was Netscape Navigator. They later dropped the Navigator part.

I remember. And sometimes I referred to it as "Nutscrape
Masturbator"... :P

About the same time that people called it "Internet exploder"

Netscape came in two flavors - Navigator and Communicator. Communicator included a mail client, NNTP client, IRC client and a couple of other
tools - HTML editor and calendar, if memory serves.

I built an entire corporate infrastructure on it - sent out distribution
lists via text updates, created an NNTP server for company
collaboration, like a Yammer/Viva Engage setup, and used IRC for a
company chat platform. All tied into Palm Pilots with a program called PocketMirror that synched everything to your Palm. It was pretty cool,
and all totally cheap for a pre-funding startup.

Nowadays, you'd just get google workspace and call it a day. But that's
nowhere near as fun. :)



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Re: Re: Browsers
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Apr 19 2025 04:47 pm

The formal name was Netscape Navigator. They later dropped the Navigator
part.

I remember. And sometimes I referred to it as "Nutscrape Masturbator"...
:P

About the same time that people called it "Internet exploder"

That was MS Internet Explorer.

Netscape came in two flavors - Navigator and Communicator. Communicator included a mail client, NNTP client, IRC client and a couple of other tools - HTML editor and calendar, if memory serves.

I built an entire corporate infrastructure on it - sent out distribution lists via text updates, created an NNTP server for company collaboration, like a Yammer/Viva Engage setup, and used IRC for a company chat platform. All tied into Palm Pilots with a program called PocketMirror that synched everything to your Palm. It was pretty cool, and all totally cheap for a pre-funding startup.

I remember Netscape Communicator. I had it installed for a little while, though I didn't really use it much. I tried its web designer, though I still preferred to hand-code my HTML pages at the time, since its web designer added a lot of bloat. And the Communicator browser seemed basically the same as Netscape Navigator.

Nowadays, you'd just get google workspace and call it a day. But that's nowhere near as fun. :)

I haven't heard of Google Workspace.. I'll have to look into it. And for the past several years, the main web browser I've been using is Vivaldi - It's a very customizable browser, and I like it.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Browsers
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Apr 19 2025 04:47 pm

Nightfox wrote to Mortar <=-

Re: Browsers
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Fri Apr 18 2025 10:42 am

The formal name was Netscape Navigator. They later dropped the Navigat part.

I remember. And sometimes I referred to it as "Nutscrape Masturbator"... :P

About the same time that people called it "Internet exploder"

Netscape came in two flavors - Navigator and Communicator. Communicator included a mail client, NNTP client, IRC client and a couple of other
tools - HTML editor and calendar, if memory serves.

I built an entire corporate infrastructure on it - sent out distribution lists via text updates, created an NNTP server for company
collaboration, like a Yammer/Viva Engage setup, and used IRC for a
company chat platform. All tied into Palm Pilots with a program called PocketMirror that synched everything to your Palm. It was pretty cool,
and all totally cheap for a pre-funding startup.

Nowadays, you'd just get google workspace and call it a day. But that's nowhere near as fun. :)

What client did people use to acess the NNTP server? Just a newsreader, or was there a web frontend?

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Boraxman wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

What client did people use to acess the NNTP server? Just a
newsreader, or was there a web frontend?

Communicator had a newsreader back then - so did Outlook Express, and
plain ol' Outlook, too. NNTP did 90% of what people use corporate social networks and microblogs for these days.





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What client did people use to acess the NNTP server? Just a
newsreader, or was there a web frontend?

Communicator had a newsreader back then - so did Outlook Express, and plain ol' Outlook, too. NNTP did 90% of what people use corporate
social networks and microblogs for these days.

NNTP's weakness is authentication, or more specifically how identity is presented. But you are right, its quite a good option for central messaging if you can control that aspect of it. The company I work for uses Teams, which is AWFUL, as well as WeChat, which is just chat. Otherwise, its all done by email groups, which are a mess. Group emails by CC'ing in everyone is just a headache. Before that it was some Microsoft Web based system, which also sucked.

Its weird how people keep trying to reinvent the same thing over and over. Technologies which solve problems alread exist, but whoever is in IT, making decisions or proposals simply isn't aware of what current technology can do, and
looks at the next marketed fad and tries that. So, so often at work I have to do things in a hamfisted and awkward way, which could be much, much better, using tools which have already existed for decades, and are FREE!


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Re: Re: Browsers
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Apr 22 2025 08:38 am

Its weird how people keep trying to reinvent the same thing over and over. Technologies which solve problems alread exist, but whoever is in IT, making decisions or proposals simply isn't aware of what current technology can do,

You said a mouthful there. I think they do it to say they invented something new and get a paycheck for it.

In the PLC/HMI world where I live, this has been going on for decades now. I recently has a conversation with a young engineer where he told me he was working on a way to collect data from a printing press. I didn't have the heart to tell him I was doing that in the 80's.

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You said a mouthful there. I think they do it to say they invented something new and get a paycheck for it.
In the PLC/HMI world where I live, this has been going on for decades
now. I recently has a conversation with a young engineer where he told
me he was working on a way to collect data from a printing press. I didn't have the heart to tell him I was doing that in the 80's.

What's old is new again! If we fail to remember the past, we are doomed
to repeat it. Or in this case try to remake it.

B^)


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