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    From Mikesla@VERT/PARANOR to All on Thu Nov 10 06:32:06 2011
    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone here because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already tried it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Before I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it in Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this on?

    Thanks ahead of time.

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  • From Gandolf@VERT to Mikesla on Wed Nov 9 16:08:45 2011
    The best advice I can give in your situation is to install VMWare player
    or virtualbox and have at it as a virtual machine. Once you're
    comfortable with whatever flavor of Linux you choose, you can (later on) either dual-boot or do a complete switch to a Linux environment.

    Until then, virtual machines are the 'safest' bet without heavily
    risking the integrity of an already existing machine.

    (I realize that 'integrity' and 'Windows' is an oxymoron in some
    circles, but that's a different discussion.)
    ---
    Gandolf


    On 11/10/2011 03:32 AM, Mikesla wrote:
    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone here
    because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already tried
    it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Before
    I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it in
    Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this on?

    Thanks ahead of time.

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  • From Access Denied@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gandolf on Wed Nov 9 19:25:03 2011
    Re: Re: Ubuntu
    By: Gandolf to Mikesla on Wed Nov 09 2011 04:08 pm

    The best advice I can give in your situation is to install VMWare player
    or virtualbox and have at it as a virtual machine. Once you're
    comfortable with whatever flavor of Linux you choose, you can (later on) either dual-boot or do a complete switch to a Linux environment.

    I'll totally agree with this.

    (I realize that 'integrity' and 'Windows' is an oxymoron in some
    circles, but that's a different discussion.)

    And this. :)

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Mikesla on Thu Nov 10 19:20:47 2011
    Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32 am

    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone her because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already trie it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Befo I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this

    Thanks ahead of time.


    Ubuntu, as most Linux distrubutions do, will install a bootloader, most likely called GRUB. The bootloader is installed and Ubuntu should configure it to allow you to choose which OS to install to. You will still be able to boot into Windows, but you'll get a GRUB bootloader menu where you can choose which OS.

    The only thing I recommend doing, is backing up your Windows partition, just in case. I've installed Linux quite a few times, and never had any issues with it damaging Windows. You should be fine as long as you don't delete your Win partition.
    If you have a partition, "Drive D" to install Linux on, you will need to delete it to create a Linux partition. This Drive D will be a Windows partition, and you need it to be a Linux one. So if you can, delete that partition now (ensuring its empty first!)
    Then, when installing Ubuntu and selecting which partition, you'll have free space on the harddrive to create a new partition in. Create at least one to install Linux on, and one swap partition roughly equivalent to the amount of RAM you have.

    I also use a seperate /home partition of several gigs, or more, a /tmp of about 1G and a seperate /var of about 4G. Making these partitions seperate is optional.


    Linux is a bit of a learning curve, and I remember the apprehension about installing it the first time back in 2000, but its will worth it.

    Let me know if this is a bit unclear.


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  • From Snod@VERT/KILNS to Mikesla on Thu Nov 10 11:15:20 2011
    Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone her because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already trie it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Befo I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this

    Thanks ahead of time.

    Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.



    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
    MGH AKA Jeff Clayton

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  • From Mikesla@VERT/PARANOR to Snod on Thu Nov 10 19:19:00 2011
    Snod wrote to Mikesla <=-

    Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone her because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already trie it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. Befo I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install it Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a full install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file?

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage my system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take this

    Thanks ahead of time.

    Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you
    get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have
    been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.


    I did install it using the windows installer. I'm so new to this that it's down right embarrassing. It's like the good old dos days all over again, I guess thats one thing in my favor, I was raised on dos.

    Thanks!

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  • From Jeff Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Mikesla on Fri Nov 11 11:37:33 2011
    Re: Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to Snod on Thu Nov 10 2011 19:19:00

    Snod wrote to Mikesla <=-

    Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already t it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. B I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a f install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take th

    Thanks ahead of time.

    Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.


    I did install it using the windows installer. I'm so new to this that it's down right embarrassing. It's like the good old dos days all over again, I guess thats one thing in my favor, I was raised on dos.

    Thanks!

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    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
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  • From Mikesla@VERT/PARANOR to Jeff Clayton on Fri Nov 11 18:49:00 2011
    Jeff Clayton wrote to Mikesla <=-

    Re: Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to Snod on Thu Nov 10 2011 19:19:00

    Snod wrote to Mikesla <=-

    Re: Ubuntu
    By: Mikesla to All on Thu Nov 10 2011 06:32:06

    I just got Ubuntu (32bit version), and I'm a bit out of my comfort zone because I have been using nothing more than Windows.

    I am using Windows 7 (32 bit), and I want to install it. Now I already t it via booting from the cd (demo) only without installing the software. B I install it in it's own partition (drive D) I am wondering if I install Windows 7 first will this damage my ability to boot back into Windows?

    I guess what I am wanting to say is that if, and when I decide to do a f install, and I uninstall it from Windows 7 will it hurt my main boot file

    I'm very new to this whole linux thing, and I just don't want to damage system in any way.

    Can you folks also tell me some of the do's, and don'ts before I take th

    Thanks ahead of time.

    Ubuntu now has an installer that works like any other program. If you get tired of it you can uninstall it like a regular program. I have been using it for several months now with no problems on XP.


    I did install it using the windows installer. I'm so new to this that it's down right embarrassing. It's like the good old dos days all over again, I guess thats one thing in my favor, I was raised on dos.

    Thanks!


    Being a DOS user has paid off for me many times even on these new
    Windows systems.

    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
    MGH AKA Jeff Clayton

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