• Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption

    From physalis17@VERT/DECKHEVN to All on Sat Aug 22 14:23:14 2015
    Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday that encryption makes it harder for law enforcement to track down "evildoers" - and called for a "much better, more cooperative relationship" with Apple, Google, and other tech companies that are building uncrackable private communication apps into their new products.

    Jenna Mclaughlin
    August 19, 2015 2:40 p.m.

    firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/19/jeb-bush-comes-encryption/

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  • From physalis17@VERT/DECKHEVN to All on Sat Aug 22 14:26:27 2015
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 02:23 pm

    How is it in the 21st century, that we don't have a presidential candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 19:35:00 2015
    physalis17 wrote to All <=-

    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 02:23 pm

    How is it in the 21st century, that we don't have a presidential
    candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard
    drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

    You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Bill McGarrity on Sun Aug 23 09:02:16 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Bill McGarrity to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 2015 07:35 pm

    candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

    You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)



    it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to physalis17 on Sun Aug 23 09:19:52 2015
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 14:23:14

    Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday that encryption makes it harder for law enforcement to track down "evildoers" - and called for a "much better, more cooperative relationship" with Apple, Google, and other tech companies that are building uncrackable private communication apps into their new products.

    I think this mainly confirms what I already know/suspected. Long ago, I heard that the government got cell phone service companies to provide the government a back door into their encrypted connections so that the government could listen in to peoples' cell phone conversations. So I suppose Jeb Bush's comment comes as no surprise, except perhaps that Jeb Bush revealed that they actually are doing this.

    Nightfox

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Mro on Sun Aug 23 11:26:00 2015
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    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Bill McGarrity to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 2015 07:35 pm

    candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

    You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)



    it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

    I thought it was hilarious... to each there own..


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Bill McGarrity on Sun Aug 23 15:47:25 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Bill McGarrity to Mro on Sun Aug 23 2015 11:26 am


    it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

    I thought it was hilarious... to each there own..


    i watched the video and didnt think she was funny. she was trying to avoid the question.

    i think that if she would have played dumb further and strung the reporter along a bit, it could have been funny.
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  • From Mindless Automaton@VERT/ELDRITCH to Nightfox on Mon Aug 24 09:27:09 2015
    On 8/23/2015 12:19 PM, Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to All on Sat Aug 22 2015 14:23:14

    ph> Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Tuesday that encryption
    ph> makes it harder for law enforcement to track down "evildoers" - and called
    ph> for a "much better, more cooperative relationship" with Apple, Google, and
    ph> other tech companies that are building uncrackable private communication
    ph> apps into their new products.

    I think this mainly confirms what I already know/suspected. Long ago, I heard
    that the government got cell phone service companies to provide the government
    a back door into their encrypted connections so that the government could listen in to peoples' cell phone conversations. So I suppose Jeb Bush's comment comes as no surprise, except perhaps that Jeb Bush revealed that they actually are doing this.


    Evil villains always need to gloat about their nefarious plans!

    Soon I will make myself the richest burgermeister in the world!

    Doh!

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  • From physalis17@VERT/DECKHEVN to Mindless Automaton on Wed Aug 26 03:24:26 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Mindless Automaton to Nightfox on Mon Aug 24 2015 09:27 am

    I hope that Clinton was joking. can't tell half the time with crap like sopa. jeb may have accidentally revealed what we already know about what the nsa is doing. but I don't think they give a damn.

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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to physalis17 on Wed Aug 26 10:39:03 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to Mindless Automaton on Wed Aug 26 2015 03:24 am

    Don't waste your time with Clinton? Watch Donald Trump!

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  • From physalis17@VERT/DECKHEVN to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 12:44:30 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Hustler to physalis17 on Wed Aug 26 2015 10:39 am

    i am liking trump. at least he hasn't said something ignorant about computers. I am still not sure who I am voting for. Computer politics are important to me which makes me not want bush or Clinton. that much I am certain of.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 16:39:34 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Hustler to physalis17 on Wed Aug 26 2015 10:39 am

    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to Mindless Automaton on Wed Aug 26 2015 03:24 am

    Don't waste your time with Clinton? Watch Donald Trump!


    donald trump is such a fucking hoot. kicking that guy out of his press conference was great.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to physalis17 on Fri Aug 28 10:09:38 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 12:44 pm

    i am liking trump. at least he hasn't said something ignorant about computers. I am still not sure who I am voting for. Computer politics are important to me which makes me not want bush or Clinton. that much I am certain of.

    Apparently a lot of folks like Trump and that's a good thing.

    HusTler

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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Mro on Fri Aug 28 10:11:36 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Mro to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 04:39 pm

    donald trump is such a fucking hoot. kicking that guy out of his press conference was great.


    He certainly keeps things interesting. What will Donald say/do next?

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Sat Aug 29 17:25:42 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Hustler to Mro on Fri Aug 28 2015 10:11 am

    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Mro to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 04:39 pm

    donald trump is such a fucking hoot. kicking that guy out of his press conference was great.


    He certainly keeps things interesting. What will Donald say/do next?


    he said hillary's top aid is not a good choice because she's the wife of anthony weiner.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/SPACESST to Mro on Sat Feb 6 22:28:15 2106
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Mro to Hustler on Sat Aug 29 2015 17:25:42

    he said hillary's top aid is not a good choice because she's the wife of anthony weiner.

    I saw that on the news. That guy Weiner is still around even after he was busted? And he's on Clinton's Team. Sup with that?

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to physalis17 on Sun Sep 6 08:48:17 2015
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: physalis17 to Hustler on Wed Aug 26 2015 12:44:30

    i am liking trump. at least he hasn't said something ignorant about computers. I am still not sure who I am voting for. Computer politics
    are important to me which makes me not want bush or Clinton. that much I am certain of.

    Just a little racism/prejudice to trade for it. That kind of kills the deal for me. Sanders is pretty smart.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Mro on Sun Nov 20 19:09:39 2016
    On 2015-08-23 04:02 PM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Bill McGarrity to physalis17 on Sat Aug 22 2015 07:35 pm

    candidate that knows anything about computers and technology?! I don't
    know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

    You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)



    it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.
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    But her face is not a poor attempt.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Deavmi on Sun Nov 20 22:42:57 2016
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Deavmi to Mro on Sun Nov 20 2016 07:09 pm

    don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking
    wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

    You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)



    it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

    But her face is not a poor attempt.



    hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old
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  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Mro on Mon Nov 21 08:26:44 2016
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Mro to Deavmi on Sun Nov 20 2016 10:42 pm

    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Deavmi to Mro on Sun Nov 20 2016 07:09 pm

    don't know which is worse, this or Hillary Clinton thinking wiping a hard drive requires a cloth! Absolutely aggravating!

    You do know Clinton's remark was sarcasm.. :)



    it was a poor attempt at sarcasm and humor.

    But her face is not a poor attempt.



    hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Mon Nov 21 10:49:07 2016
    hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old

    Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Nov 21 21:58:11 2016
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

    hey, can you please stop replying to posts that are 1-2 years old

    Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.



    loosen your spinctor.

    i just think it's odd that someone is digging up just dumb threads from 2 years ago. replying to stuff that's not even of substance.
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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Nightfox on Wed Nov 23 13:46:09 2016
    Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

    I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to echicken on Wed Nov 23 12:40:42 2016
    I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

    I agree. It could be that someone has something new/different to say about a particular topic, regardless of how old the thread is. Or perhaps someone is a new user and just wants to add their 2 cents. And if someone creates a brand-new
    thread with a subject that has been discussed before, there would likely be someone who says "This has been discussed some time ago already." So I suppose there would always be people commenting negatively about it either way.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to echicken on Thu Nov 24 07:35:00 2016
    echicken wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" -
    particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I
    can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at
    worst it's just another message to scroll past.

    It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

    Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Vk3jed on Wed Nov 23 15:47:23 2016
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Vk3jed to echicken on Thu Nov 24 2016 07:35 am

    echicken wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

    It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

    Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

    Shouldn't it be called "necroreplying"?

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Nov 23 23:33:37 2016
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Digital Man to Vk3jed on Wed Nov 23 2016 03:47 pm

    Shouldn't it be called "necroreplying"?

    digital man



    yeah probably
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  • From alliekbean@VERT/MBL to Vk3jed on Wed Nov 23 20:38:24 2016
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Vk3jed to echicken on Thu Nov 24 2016 07:35:00

    I don't really understand the problem with "necroposting" - particularly around here where we aren't exactly drowning in a flood of new messages. If somebody wants to revive a 10+ year old thread, I can't see the harm in it; it might lead to more discussion, and at worst it's just another message to scroll past.

    It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

    Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

    Nonono, it's The Walking Thread ;)

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Digital Man on Thu Nov 24 15:09:00 2016
    Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    It's the zombie thread apocolypse! :D

    Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

    Shouldn't it be called "necroreplying"?

    You're probably right. :)


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thu Nov 24 10:30:35 2016
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

    Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

    Yeah, it's not like we're downloading hundreds of messages over dialup, and some users may not have been lurking as long as MRO.

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to alliekbean on Thu Nov 24 10:31:31 2016
    Re: Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: alliekbean to Vk3jed on Wed Nov 23 2016 08:38 pm

    Nonono, it's The Walking Thread ;)

    We have a winner!

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  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Nov 24 14:38:48 2016
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Thu Nov 24 2016 10:30 am

    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

    Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or
    one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

    cause he wants access to all the mails that state that his wife looks like the cleaning lady from family guy... No..no...no...no..

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Nov 24 14:56:45 2016
    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Nightfox on Thu Nov 24 2016 10:30 am

    Re: Jeb Bush Comes Out Against Encryption
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Nov 21 2016 10:49 am

    Why does that bother you so much? You seem to be the only one (or one of the few people) I see complaining about that.

    Yeah, it's not like we're downloading hundreds of messages over dialup, and some users may not have been lurking as long as MRO.



    it just seems stupid and pointless for someone to dig up a 1-2 year msg to reply to something that had no real substance.
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