• Re: Technology

    From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DARYL STOUT on Mon May 23 01:26:00 2016
    DARYL STOUT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Let me know when you and your wife get your license (your ticket). Always love to chat with hams who also love BBSing. :)

    Well, been away from BBS's for SEVERAL days and I have a reply to you
    about this very thing waiting to upload...

    One side note on that. The kids nowadays are so immersed in their tablets, etc., that they could care less about ham radio, BBSing, or
    other hobbies. One ham radio operator in El Paso, Texas (Lew, KB5HPT),
    had his grandson in his "shack" one day, and his grandson was asking Grandpa "what's all this ham radio??".

    Well, Grandpa tried to explain things in layman's terms, but his grandson didn't seem interested.

    That was, UNTIL, Grandpa used D-Rats (one of the digital modes of ham radio, that allows you to send messages, files, and chat in real time)
    to send a text message to his grandson's smartphone.

    Lew said his grandson's eyes got as big as dollars, as he exclaimed "WOW!!". Lew said "You can reply to it"...he did, and Lew showed how he got the message.

    That did it...he was hooked!! :)

    That's VERY cool! I can see doing that if I ever bring a rig to school
    to demonstrate...

    I've seen a similar deal done at hamfests, and the non-hams are blown away by what we can do. :)

    I use D-Rats quite a bit, especially during the D-Star Nets.

    I'm ready and anxious to get started (see other message) - and hearing all
    this talk about it makes me even MORE anxious! LOL

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to GATE KEEPER on Mon May 23 01:30:00 2016
    GATE KEEPER wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

    BBSing comes second to ham radio for me even though Ive been running a
    BBS since 1980 24/7, under several platforms of course. I sure do miss
    my C64 and C128 systems though.

    Well I'm not a sysop, just a user, and I use it for the echonets (and
    playing Global War). That's why I want to get my HAM ticket - for the communication! My wife wants to use it to communicate during weather
    spotting / storm chasing.


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 25 11:38:00 2016
    Jimmy,

    Well, been away from BBS's for SEVERAL days and I have a reply to you JA>about this very thing waiting to upload...

    No rush. I've been helping my elderly Mom (who turns 90 this fall)
    with several tasks...plus, dodging thunderstorms. So, work on the BBS
    has had to go on the back burner.

    That's VERY cool! I can see doing that if I ever bring a rig to school
    to demonstrate...

    Much to the "ham radio purists angst", I operate "internet radio",
    because of antenna prohibitions...especially considering it's apartment inspection time again. I'm waiting for a strip search inspection to
    check for illegal drugs, but doubt that'll ever get implemented. The
    police have busted several residents out here in the past for meth labs,
    etc.

    Back to "internet radio", I took a laptop, my DV Dongle (with D-Star),
    a wi-fi adapter, an external mouse and keyboard, an external monitor,
    plus a desktop mic and speakers, to a central Arkansas area high school,
    and did a demo for their ham radio club. I told the kids that "This way,
    you don't have to worry about the cost of radios, power supplies, SWR
    meters, antennas, coaxial cable, towers, etc. All you need is a
    Technician Class ham radio license, a computer (desktop or laptop), a
    high speed internet connection, the software, plus a headset mic (or a
    desktop mic and speakers), and you're good to go.

    I plan to take the laptop to the Hunstville Hamfest with me in June,
    and operate Greyhound Bus mobile with Packet via Telnet, Echolink,
    D-Star, and D-Rats.

    I'm ready and anxious to get started (see other message) - and hearing all JA>this talk about it makes me even MORE anxious! LOL

    The new technology is almost dizzying.

    I still laugh about that deal on the packet net with the discussion of
    what E.D. really stands for. And, the other night, one ham typed that
    "he had to go back to work to rest"...from all the home chores over the weekend!! :P

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    That one doesn't fly with some groups. :P However, it is now in my
    tagline collection. :)

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Thu May 26 10:42:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Much to the "ham radio purists angst", I operate "internet radio", because of antenna prohibitions...especially considering it's apartment inspection time again. I'm waiting for a strip search inspection to
    check for illegal drugs, but doubt that'll ever get implemented. The police have busted several residents out here in the past for meth
    labs, etc.

    The Internet access to radio certainly has its uses. I prefer to use real radio, but will use the Internet alternatives when needed for pragmatic
    easons.

    Back to "internet radio", I took a laptop, my DV Dongle (with
    D-Star), a wi-fi adapter, an external mouse and keyboard, an external monitor, plus a desktop mic and speakers, to a central Arkansas area
    high school, and did a demo for their ham radio club. I told the kids
    that "This way, you don't have to worry about the cost of radios, power supplies, SWR meters, antennas, coaxial cable, towers, etc. All you
    need is a Technician Class ham radio license, a computer (desktop or laptop), a high speed internet connection, the software, plus a headset mic (or a desktop mic and speakers), and you're good to go.

    I'm not so sure I'd push it as "the way to go", but definitely as a side note to say this is now in our arsenal of gear and modes. I maintain Echolink capacity on some of my systems, as well as phone and tablet. I'm more interested in being able to remotely use my own radios, whether from the other side of the house or further afield. I can do this on voice to some extent, and I'm looking at setting up a data gateway that can do packet on VHF and Winlink on HF, and be accessible over the LAN. This will make use of a Raspberry Pi and LinBPQ as the main element of the gateway.


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VK3JED on Thu May 26 11:10:00 2016
    Tony,

    The Internet access to radio certainly has its uses. I prefer to use real V>radio, but will use the Internet alternatives when needed for pragmatic V>easons.

    It's easier for me, because of my setup here at the QTH. However, I
    realize when my internet is out, or if storms are in the area, I'm QRT.

    Winlink on HF, and be accessible over the LAN. This will make use of a V>Raspberry Pi and LinBPQ as the main element of the gateway.

    I'm doing Winlink via RMS Express, since I don't think D-Rats
    processes that anymore (WL2K now requires secure logons). But, I
    understand that even though Dan, KK7DS, is no longer developing it,
    apparently, there is another ham who's willing to take up the task.

    Plus, I use the Outpost program for Packet to the N0KFQ BBS in
    Branson. It has both RF and telnet access.

    Also, I don't know much about a Raspberry Pi...but, a pineapple upside
    down cheesecake sounds awfully good. And, yes, I did make a bunch of
    contacts with it...from the plate to the mouth. :)

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Fri May 27 06:58:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Tony,

    The Internet access to radio certainly has its uses. I prefer to use real
    radio, but will use the Internet alternatives when needed for pragmatic
    easons.

    It's easier for me, because of my setup here at the QTH. However, I realize when my internet is out, or if storms are in the area, I'm QRT.

    Yep, use what works.

    I'm doing Winlink via RMS Express, since I don't think D-Rats
    processes that anymore (WL2K now requires secure logons). But, I

    I can use RMS Express, but in the current incarnation, there's a lack of flexibility. RMS Express assumes a single point of accessing the interface (i.e. works best when confined to one PC), but for me, shack access and telnet access are best done in different places. The shack is more like the engine room on a ship. Great if you want to work on the working parts, but not the best place to drive it from. :)

    understand that even though Dan, KK7DS, is no longer developing it, apparently, there is another ham who's willing to take up the task.

    Oh, OK. The beauty of open source - someone else can pick it up.

    Plus, I use the Outpost program for Packet to the N0KFQ BBS in
    Branson. It has both RF and telnet access.

    Also, I don't know much about a Raspberry Pi...but, a pineapple
    upside down cheesecake sounds awfully good. And, yes, I did make a
    bunch of contacts with it...from the plate to the mouth. :)

    LOL


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DARYL STOUT on Sun May 29 04:44:00 2016
    DARYL STOUT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Back to "internet radio", I took a laptop, my DV Dongle (with
    D-Star), a wi-fi adapter, an external mouse and keyboard, an external monitor, plus a desktop mic and speakers, to a central Arkansas area
    high school, and did a demo for their ham radio club. I told the kids
    that "This way, you don't have to worry about the cost of radios, power supplies, SWR meters, antennas, coaxial cable, towers, etc. All you
    need is a Technician Class ham radio license, a computer (desktop or laptop), a high speed internet connection, the software, plus a headset mic (or a desktop mic and speakers), and you're good to go.

    Hmm... I have most of that already... I have a USB headset (phones and mic) that I use for online gaming with my buddies from high school and my son
    in Indiana. So I should be able to use my laptop with the dongle? Can you
    send me a link to the part I would need to get by chance?

    I plan to take the laptop to the Hunstville Hamfest with me in June,
    and operate Greyhound Bus mobile with Packet via Telnet, Echolink,
    D-Star, and D-Rats.

    Nice! Not sure if we're going to make that or not... <stopping to Google>

    Says August 20 & 21... Putting it on the calendar, but no promises.

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    That one doesn't fly with some groups. :P However, it is now in my tagline collection. :)

    Really? wow... SMH


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon May 30 11:27:00 2016
    Jimmy,

    Hmm... I have most of that already... I have a USB headset (phones and mic) JA>that I use for online gaming with my buddies from high school and my son JA>in Indiana. So I should be able to use my laptop with the dongle? Can you JA>send me a link to the part I would need to get by chance?

    You can go to vendors such as Ham Radio Outlet (www.hamradio.com).
    It's around $200 -- but the price of a simple D-Star HT can be more than
    double that. Also, before you can get on the air to listen, you will
    need proof of the ham radio license (entering your callsign in a
    database -- I can get you the link to that later). I registered through
    a link provided by the Memphis Digital Amateur Radio Club. Rick Pinelli, KA2BSM, does a lot of work with them. With Echolink, you also need proof
    of a ham radio license, but there is an app for your smartphone, where
    you don't need a radio at all.

    I plan to take the laptop to the Hunstville Hamfest with me in June, and operate Greyhound Bus mobile with Packet via Telnet, Echolink, D-Star, and D-Rats.

    Nice! Not sure if we're going to make that or not... <stopping to Google>

    Says August 20 & 21... Putting it on the calendar, but no promises.

    I hope you can make it. That'll likely be my last big out of state
    trip...due to health and financial issues. I don't look forward to a 12
    hour bus ride. :P

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    day my wife died. We had to have the first one put down, due to
    declining health. You can see more at http://www.wx1der.com/dog.htm

    Daryl

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DARYL STOUT on Thu Jun 2 09:39:00 2016
    DARYL STOUT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    You can go to vendors such as Ham Radio Outlet (www.hamradio.com).
    It's around $200 -- but the price of a simple D-Star HT can be more
    than double that.

    Okay - thx! Since it's not just a '$25 dongle' I'll probably go the
    antenna route first. :-) Not that it's 'better' just more fun for me
    since I don't have the apartment limitations... (I live out in the
    country and can shoot off my back porch if I want to).

    Also, before you can get on the air to listen, you
    will need proof of the ham radio license (entering your callsign in a database -- I can get you the link to that later). I registered through
    a link provided by the Memphis Digital Amateur Radio Club. Rick
    Pinelli, KA2BSM, does a lot of work with them. With Echolink, you also need proof of a ham radio license, but there is an app for your smartphone, where you don't need a radio at all.

    Once I pass the test <wink> that won't be an issue. What's the app?

    I plan to take the laptop to the Hunstville Hamfest with me in June, and operate Greyhound Bus mobile with Packet via Telnet, Echolink, D-Star, and D-Rats.

    Nice! Not sure if we're going to make that or not... <stopping to Google>

    Says August 20 & 21... Putting it on the calendar, but no promises.

    I hope you can make it. That'll likely be my last big out of state trip...due to health and financial issues. I don't look forward to a 12 hour bus ride. :P

    I understand that! Wife doesn't like crowds :-) but if this turns into a
    chance for her to storm chase and storm watch she might be more inclined
    to go on that trip... She really enjoyed the Bartlett Freefest!

    I've come 'this close' to driving to Huntsville just to play x-wing, but
    it's a long way to go alone. If we go together, of course...

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jun 2 20:00:00 2016
    Jimmy,

    Okay - thx! Since it's not just a '$25 dongle' I'll probably go the JA>antenna route first. :-) Not that it's 'better' just more fun for me JA>since I don't have the apartment limitations... (I live out in the JA>country and can shoot off my back porch if I want to).

    I haven't seen a D-Star Dongle for under $130.

    Once I pass the test <wink> that won't be an issue. What's the app?

    Echolink. You have to send them a copy of your license (scan it in,
    and email it...details are at www.echolink.org). Once you're in the
    system, amd have been validated, you can download it for your PC
    (Windows, Mac, and Linux), or for your Smartphone.

    I understand that! Wife doesn't like crowds :-) but if this turns into a JA>chance for her to storm chase and storm watch she might be more inclined JA>to go on that trip... She really enjoyed the Bartlett Freefest!

    There may be activities there for the ladies...several hamfests are
    doing that now. Of course, there will also be rooms for socializing, so
    you're not in the rooms looking for gear. I'll be at the D-Star Forum,
    and probably socializing.

    I've come 'this close' to driving to Huntsville just to play x-wing, but JA>it's a long way to go alone. If we go together, of course...

    It'd be a bit shorter trip for you than for me by at least 2-3
    hours...as it's at least that from Little Rock to Memphis.

    Daryl

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/TBOLT to Daryl Stout on Wed Jun 29 08:41:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Re: Re: Technology
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DARYL STOUT on Thu Jun 02 2016 09:39 am

    Jimmy,

    First, I got your message in the Logon Matrix.

    Ah - so THIS is the dove net message you mentioned. :-) Thx.

    Since I completely
    changed software, had difficulty importing stuff, and many callers
    hadn't logged on in awhile, I reset the user base on The Thunderbolt

    Totally understandable. :-) I'm just glad to be able to use QWK on your
    BBS now. :-)

    Second, congratulations to you and your wife for getting your amateur radio licenses.

    Thank you!!! I'm KM4UXV and have been somewhat active (and I emailed Rick
    last night) - she's KM4UXW and is planning to be active for Skywarn, etc.

    I'll have to get "alternate phoenetic
    callsigns" for you and your wife...or these "ham radio jokers" will do
    it for you. No worries, I'll keep it clean. ;)

    LOL

    Sorry I wasn't around when you logged on to The Thunderbolt BBS
    earlier. Yesterday was a very stressful day for me. The starter failed
    on my 17 year old car (1999 Chevy Cavalier), and I have no idea when,

    Ouch! Good luck with that! And no, I don't expect you to always be there,
    just thought I'd check. :-)



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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed Jun 29 10:02:00 2016
    Jimmy,

    First, I got your message in the Logon Matrix.

    Ah - so THIS is the dove net message you mentioned. :-) Thx.

    Well, I did a search from the BBS's main menu to find an area where
    you had posted a message. Since you said your regular BBS was down (mine
    was Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning due to severe
    thunderstorms...the intense lightning knocked out my internet for 15
    hours), I figured I'd try Dove-Net first.

    Totally understandable. :-) I'm just glad to be able to use QWK on your JA>BBS now. :-)

    Don't forget to select your desired areas. I forgot with one QWK
    Network I had to join certain areas. No wonder no message traffic was
    evident. :P

    Thank you!!! I'm KM4UXV and have been somewhat active (and I emailed Rick JA>last night) - she's KM4UXW and is planning to be active for Skywarn, etc.

    Cool to have sequential callsigns.

    I'll have to get "alternate phoenetic
    callsigns" for you and your wife...or these "ham radio jokers" will do it for you. No worries, I'll keep it clean. ;)

    LOL

    It'll be a bear finding one for the X in your callsigns.
    Ouch! Good luck with that! And no, I don't expect you to always be there, JA>just thought I'd check. :-)

    They don't know if it's the starter or the theft security system with
    the ignition switch on the steering column. Originally, I had ALL my
    keys on one deal, and it pulled the deal out of its socket. But, I had
    greatly reduced the number of keys on the chain, and it might be doing
    it again. The car is 17 years old, but I want to keep it going as long
    as I can...especially considering I can't afford a new or used one. The
    bill last time was real expensive on it...but nothing is cheap, anymore...unless it comes to "quality of a product". :P

    We're supposed to have scattered storms here from Friday into next
    Wednesday. So, if you can't get into the BBS, try again later. Lightning
    dances around here like an ungrounded Faraday cage.

    Daryl

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/TBOLT to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 30 10:21:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Well, I did a search from the BBS's main menu to find an area where
    you had posted a message. Since you said your regular BBS was down
    (mine was Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning due to severe thunderstorms...the intense lightning knocked out my internet for 15 hours), I figured I'd try Dove-Net first.

    WOW! I knew it can go down during storms, but that's a LONG time for
    Internet to be 'off.'

    Totally understandable. :-) I'm just glad to be able to use QWK on your
    BBS now. :-)

    Don't forget to select your desired areas. I forgot with one QWK
    Network I had to join certain areas. No wonder no message traffic was evident. :P

    I just joined everything for now. :-) If Neptune's Lair doesn't come back
    up I'll be using you for FIDO... Hopefully you can add the ones I'm missing?

    Thank you!!! I'm KM4UXV and have been somewhat active (and I emailed Rick
    last night) - she's KM4UXW and is planning to be active for Skywarn, etc.

    Cool to have sequential callsigns.

    Yeah! Though her first name is Vanessa, so she should have the "V." Maybe "W" is for "Wife?" LOL

    They don't know if it's the starter or the theft security system with the ignition switch on the steering column. Originally, I had ALL my
    keys on one deal, and it pulled the deal out of its socket. But, I had greatly reduced the number of keys on the chain, and it might be doing
    it again. The car is 17 years old, but I want to keep it going as long
    as I can...especially considering I can't afford a new or used one. The bill last time was real expensive on it...but nothing is cheap, anymore...unless it comes to "quality of a product". :P

    I heard that! My wife always kept her key IN the vehicle, so when we replaced her pickup with a newer one and I got the old one, I continued the tradition. :-)
    Makes it easier... I just hit the fob and get in. :-)

    We're supposed to have scattered storms here from Friday into next Wednesday. So, if you can't get into the BBS, try again later.
    Lightning dances around here like an ungrounded Faraday cage.

    Will do! Thanks!


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Jun 30 15:09:00 2016
    Jimmy,

    WOW! I knew it can go down during storms, but that's a LONG time for JA>Internet to be 'off.'

    My guess is that lightning hit a nearby substation, and the stuff
    controlling the Comcast was affected.

    I just joined everything for now. :-) If Neptune's Lair doesn't come back JA>up I'll be using you for FIDO... Hopefully you can add the ones I'm missing?

    I will have to check the backbone listing every so often, to make sure
    I have all the areas, and have to notify my hub (Janis Kracht) that I
    want them.

    Yeah! Though her first name is Vanessa, so she should have the "V." Maybe "W JA>is for "Wife?" LOL

    I actually did think of WIFE for the W, but having an X in the
    callsign makes it hard to figure out an "alternate phonetic".

    I heard that! My wife always kept her key IN the vehicle, so when we replace JA>her pickup with a newer one and I got the old one, I continued the tradition JA>:-)
    Makes it easier... I just hit the fob and get in. :-)

    It turned out to be an alarm system that I had put in, because someone
    had attempted to break into my car awhile back, was screwing up the
    electrical system. They updated the built-in theft system in my car, but
    also had to replace the radiator. I'd rather it be replaced now, than
    for me to break down somewhere in the hot weather. I am so ready for
    winter to get rid of the heat, insects, and tornadoes.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jimmy Anderson on Fri Jul 1 09:38:06 2016
    I heard that! My wife always kept her key IN the vehicle, so when we replaced her pickup with a newer one and I got the old one, I continued the tradition. :-)

    Some cars (such as mine) will automatically lock the doors in some circumstances
    (I think only if the driver door is unlocked, but not when all 4 doors are unlocked). After I noticed my car does that, I have been especially careful not
    to leave my car key inside the car when I get out. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jul 1 20:17:00 2016
    Some cars (such as mine) will automatically lock the doors in some N>circumstances
    (I think only if the driver door is unlocked, but not when all 4 doors are N>unlocked). After I noticed my car does that, I have been especially careful N>not
    to leave my car key inside the car when I get out. :)

    I did that once...now, I keep an extra car key on a band around my
    neck, in case I leave the keys in the car.

    Daryl

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 2 10:43:37 2016
    Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jul 01 2016 08:17 pm

    I did that once...now, I keep an extra car key on a band around my
    neck, in case I leave the keys in the car.

    My Prius has one of those keyless entry/ignition systems - the car opens when you have the key fob in your pocket and touch the door handle, and starts when the key is in range.

    I'm a little worried about leaving the key in the car and having it lock, but so far it has stopped from locking the car in that situation.

    I thought I'd locked them in once, but had put them down in a store. Opening the car was trivial for the roadside guys -- insert a balloon between the door and the roof, inflate it, then flip the door lock with a slim jim. Took 5 minutes.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Jul 3 17:28:00 2016
    Poindexter Fortran wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    I thought I'd locked them in once, but had put them down in a store. Opening the car was trivial for the roadside guys -- insert a balloon between the door and the roof, inflate it, then flip the door lock with
    a slim jim. Took 5 minutes.

    Sounds a bit like the kit we have in our fire trucks to get into locked cars.


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 9 12:49:51 2016
    Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jul 01 2016 08:17 pm


    I did that once...now, I keep an extra car key on a band around my
    neck, in case I leave the keys in the car.


    you can probably keep it some place else instead of having a tacky necklace
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 9 12:53:31 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Vk3jed to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Jul 03 2016 05:28 pm

    Sounds a bit like the kit we have in our fire trucks to get into locked cars.


    around here if a firetruck needs to get into a locked car they just bust the window
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mro on Sun Jul 10 07:19:00 2016
    Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    around here if a firetruck needs to get into a locked car they just
    bust the window

    That's only done here if there's immediate danger to life. We do have some fairly quick non destructive methods we can use too.


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mro on Sun Jul 10 22:06:00 2016
    I did that once...now, I keep an extra car key on a band around my
    neck, in case I leave the keys in the car.

    you can probably keep it some place else instead of having a tacky necklace ---

    I also have the keys to the Post Office Box on that, but I usually
    keep it tucked under my shirt, unless I need it.

    Daryl

    ... How do they get Teflon to stick to the pan??
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  • From metalhead@VERT/CYBERIA to Mro on Mon Jul 11 15:11:00 2016
    you can probably keep it some place else instead of having a tacky necklace ---

    It sounds so funny! I see people wearing their e-cig on a necklace often,
    which makes a little more sense, but still funny!

    I miss my old cars, which usually had flat keys, so I was able to keep a
    spare right in my wallet, without any problem.

    Now, my Jeep key is a thick piece of shit, but it's the best vehicle I've
    ever had.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Mon Jul 11 15:50:15 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Mro on Sun Jul 10 2016 10:06 pm

    you can probably keep it some place else instead of having a tacky necklace ---

    I also have the keys to the Post Office Box on that, but I usually
    keep it tucked under my shirt, unless I need it.



    maybe we've discovered why you keep getting struck my lightning?
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to metalhead on Mon Jul 11 15:54:46 2016
    Re: Technology
    By: metalhead to Mro on Mon Jul 11 2016 03:11 pm

    you can probably keep it some place else instead of having a tacky necklace ---

    It sounds so funny! I see people wearing their e-cig on a necklace often,


    if you see someone that vapes PUNCH THEM
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mro on Tue Jul 12 12:19:00 2016
    you can probably keep it some place else instead of having a tacky necklace ---

    I also have the keys to the Post Office Box on that, but I usually
    keep it tucked under my shirt, unless I need it.

    maybe we've discovered why you keep getting struck my lightning?

    Getting struck by lightning is likely due to NOT being weather aware,
    or heeding "safety rules".

    I do NOT take any chances with weather...no matter if it's severe
    storms (large hail, high winds, flooding rain, intense lightning, and tornadoes), winter storms (snow, sleet, freezing rain), intense heat,
    bitter cold, etc.

    I check the Storm Prediction Center website several times a day, as
    well as the local National Weather Service website, and the National
    Hurricane Center Website. With doing 2 weather related ham radio
    traffic nets a week, I *HAVE* to be informed...and will NOT let
    hazardous weather take me by surprise.

    Many people treat the forecast as a "Post Office Box"...checking it
    only once a week, thinking it'll never change. Instead, it's like a
    baby's diaper. The Forecast needs to be changed often, and if it
    affects your outdoor plans, it stinks...puns intended. Meteorology is
    such an inexact science, with at least 2 dozen computer models...all
    of which handle a weather situation differently.

    I even unplug everything in my apartment that's not necessary to
    receiving severe weather information, if there's a threat of lightning.
    All the surge protection in the world will NOT protect you from a
    direct or close lightning strike, which:

    1) Can be 5 miles long
    2) Is 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit (5 times hotter than the sun's surface)
    3) Has 300,000 volts and 30,000 amps of electricity
    4) Can strike as much as 20 miles from the parent thunderstorm

    While the refrigerator/freezer, stove, and dishwasher, stay plugged
    in, they are part of the apartment...and I don't have to worry about
    replacing them if they get zapped.

    Plus, I will NOT be on the phone during a thunderstorm. The preacher
    who married my late wife and I in 2003, was the victim of a lightning
    strike, that literally sent him across the room of his house (he was
    on the phone during a thunderstorm). He survived, but would never be
    on the phone during a thunderstorm again.

    I've seen thunderstorms develop in as little as 10 minutes, then
    becoming severe with large hail, damaging winds, and tornadoes, less
    than 10 minutes later. I've also noted them moving as fast as 100 mph.
    That gives folks downstream little time to take shelter.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Tue Jul 12 13:44:52 2016
    Re: Technology
    By: Mro to metalhead on Mon Jul 11 2016 15:54:46

    if you see someone that vapes PUNCH THEM

    People vaping doesn't bother me as much as people smoking cigarettes. I'd rather be near someone vaping than someone smoking a cigarette (but even better is being near someone not smoking/vaping at all).

    Nightfox

    ---
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 12 17:48:07 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Mro on Tue Jul 12 2016 12:19 pm

    maybe we've discovered why you keep getting struck my lightning?

    Getting struck by lightning is likely due to NOT being weather aware,
    or heeding "safety rules".

    I do NOT take any chances with weather...no matter if it's severe


    what about your keys around your neck?
    didnt you ever hear about ben franklin and the kite?
    ---
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mro on Wed Jul 13 08:56:00 2016
    maybe we've discovered why you keep getting struck my lightning?

    Getting struck by lightning is likely due to NOT being weather aware,
    or heeding "safety rules".

    I do NOT take any chances with weather...no matter if it's severe

    what about your keys around your neck?
    didnt you ever hear about ben franklin and the kite?

    Being a weather geek, I have. But, I am also weather aware. If a
    thunderstorm is within 20 miles of me, I get to a secure indoor
    shelter.

    I am NOT going to be like the four guys in a fishing boat near
    Shreveport, Louisiana, back in May, 1987, on a lake on a Sunday morning.
    A thunderstorm developed, and one of the individuals got up, shook his
    fist toward Heaven, and dared God to strike him dead!!

    He was obliged, and killed instantly.

    By rights, the other 3 should've been killed from the strike as well,
    being in a metal boat on the water. However, they were totally unharmed.

    To me, that's an example of Divine Judgment, and Divine Protection in
    one whack...because the first individual got exactly what he asked for,
    and got more than he bargained for.

    Daryl

    ... Chain Lightning: For when you can't stop with one bolt.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Nightfox on Wed Jul 13 09:48:00 2016
    if you see someone that vapes PUNCH THEM

    People vaping doesn't bother me as much as people smoking cigarettes.
    I'd rather be near someone vaping than someone smoking a cigarette (but even better is being near someone not smoking/vaping at all).

    To me, the only thing I want smoking or steaming is the food on my plate
    at a fancy restaurant.

    I was in a bowling league over 30 years ago, where the cigarette smoke
    was so thick, that you thought you were getting cancer of the eyeballs.

    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    Daryl

    ... Why's the man who invests all your money called a broker?
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  • From John Guillory@VERT/MAINLINE to Daryl Stout on Wed Jul 13 18:10:21 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Nightfox on Wed Jul 13 2016 09:48 am

    To me, the only thing I want smoking or steaming is the food on my plate at a fancy restaurant.
    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.
    I can remember a sign at a Golden Corral we entered in Colorado, that said no smoking or vapors! Later, we started discovering similiar signs at other restaraunts and grocery stores.

    ---
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Wed Jul 13 19:04:27 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Nightfox on Wed Jul 13 2016 09:48 am

    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.


    we make money. makers mark is the shit dawg
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 08:39:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    Yes, both are rather expensive. Glad I don't smoke and am a very light drinker (1/2 standard drinks/week).

    Daryl

    ... Why's the man who invests all your money called a broker?

    LOL


    ... Today's extravagance becomes tomorrow's necessity.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 09:32:42 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Nightfox on Wed Jul 13 2016 09:48:00

    I was in a bowling league over 30 years ago, where the cigarette smoke
    was so thick, that you thought you were getting cancer of the eyeballs.

    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    I remember when grocery stores and many other places allowed smoking.. I rarely drink and I don't smoke, as I don't really see the point..

    Nightfox

    ---
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 14 09:43:00 2016
    Tony,

    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    Yes, both are rather expensive. Glad I don't smoke and am a very light drinker (1/2 standard drinks/week).

    I joke that "I'm into heavy drinking"...in that when I go to a restaurant,
    I need a large amount of beverage with my meal. My late wife was the opposite in that regard. She would eat all of her meal, and NOT touch one drop of her beverage, until all the food was consumed. Then, she drank her beverage "to fill up the nooks and crannies".

    Ginger Ale is my beverage of choice, but to my knowledge, only some of
    the area Wendy's restaurants with the "freestyle" drink machine, offer it.
    I saw a post today where some Wendy's restaurants may be doing like their competitor, McDonald's is doing...putting in kiosks to replace employees, because everyone's clamoring for $15 an hour.

    ... Why's the man who invests all your money called a broker?

    LOL

    It's amazing what some of these taglines have...and some of us have
    gotten tagline acquisition down to an art and science.

    Daryl

    ... This tagline is donationware; send money to register it.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to John Guillory on Thu Jul 14 10:47:00 2016
    John,


    To me, the only thing I want smoking or steaming is the food on my plate at a fancy restaurant.
    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    I can remember a sign at a Golden Corral we entered in Colorado, that said no smoking or vapors! Later, we started discovering similiar
    signs at other restaraunts and grocery stores.

    Most states have "no smoking" and "seat belt laws". In one way, it is government intrusion...but personal health and safety are important as
    well.

    There is a Golden Corral in North Little Rock, and their buffet (especially for desserts) is to die for!!

    My elderly Mom and I are trying to schedule a time when we'll go there for lunch. Most places now have senior citizen discounts, but it varies by age and/or day of the week. She'll be 90 this fall, and I do all the driving, shopping, etc. for her now.

    While that puts the BBS stuff on the back burner, taking care of her is
    far more important. She did so much for me over the years, that it's the
    least that I can do.

    Daryl

    ... "Ignore Previous Cookie" - Message in fortune cookie.
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  • From John Guillory@VERT/MAINLINE to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 23:41:31 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to John Guillory on Thu Jul 14 2016 10:47 am

    Most states have "no smoking" and "seat belt laws". In one way, it is government intrusion...but personal health and safety are important as well.
    Yes no smoking and seat belt laws, but not 'no vapors', but as I said,
    more and more restraunts are going to no vapors as well.
    There is a Golden Corral in North Little Rock, and their buffet (especially for desserts) is to die for!!
    Especially, now that they've added breakfast to their menus! I normally
    don't like breakfast during the after noone, but every time I go to golden
    coral, I have to grab some eggs and bacon!

    My elderly Mom and I are trying to schedule a time when we'll go there for lunch. Most places now have senior citizen discounts, but it varies by age and/or day of the week. She'll be 90 this fall, and I do all the driving, shopping, etc. for her now.
    I believe Goldon Corral still has Senior Citizen Discounts for anyone 65 or older.

    While that puts the BBS stuff on the back burner, taking care of her is far more important. She did so much for me over the years, that it's the least that I can do.
    I have to agree, if my mom would still be with me, I'd do anything I could to make her life better.

    ... A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of.

    ---
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 15 16:35:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Tony,

    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    Yes, both are rather expensive. Glad I don't smoke and am a very light drinker (1/2 standard drinks/week).

    I joke that "I'm into heavy drinking"...in that when I go to a restaurant, I need a large amount of beverage with my meal. My late
    wife was the opposite in that regard. She would eat all of her meal,
    and NOT touch one drop of her beverage, until all the food was
    consumed. Then, she drank her beverage "to fill up the nooks and crannies".

    I often don't drink when I'm out. It's not worth the hassle of getting caught by the booze bus or RBT station (basically any police unit), aside from the actual risk of driving after a drink.

    Ginger Ale is my beverage of choice, but to my knowledge, only some
    of the area Wendy's restaurants with the "freestyle" drink machine,
    offer it. I saw a post today where some Wendy's restaurants may be
    doing like their competitor, McDonald's is doing...putting in kiosks to replace employees, because everyone's clamoring for $15 an hour.

    I'm not sure what the minimum wage is here, but it would be over $15/hour. Junior rates are less, which is what makes places like McDonalds a good way for kids to start out in the working world. :)

    ... Why's the man who invests all your money called a broker?

    LOL

    It's amazing what some of these taglines have...and some of us have gotten tagline acquisition down to an art and science.

    I was stealing taglines with the best of them 25 years ago! :D

    Daryl

    ... This tagline is donationware; send money to register it.

    :D


    ... Refried beans? Why couldn't they do 'em right the FIRST time?
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to John Guillory on Fri Jul 15 16:06:10 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: John Guillory to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 2016 11:41 pm

    for lunch. Most places now have senior citizen discounts, but it
    varies by age and/or day of the week. She'll be 90 this fall, and I do all the driving, shopping, etc. for her now.
    I believe Goldon Corral still has Senior Citizen Discounts for anyone 65 or older.



    best time to go is breakfast right before lunch because you can pay 9 bucks and get breakfast and the lunch stuff too.
    dont become one of those lard asses who goes there every day, though.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 15 16:08:22 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Vk3jed to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 15 2016 04:35 pm

    doing like their competitor, McDonald's is doing...putting in kiosks
    to replace employees, because everyone's clamoring for $15 an hour.

    I'm not sure what the minimum wage is here, but it would be over $15/hour. Junior rates are less, which is what makes places like McDonalds a good way for kids to start out in the working world. :)


    i have mixed feelings about minimum wage. the bare minimum wage jobs, i feel should stay the same rate. if there's no skill involved and not much work you shouldnt make a lot more.

    on the other hand i know in manufacturing there are some devil companies that expect a lot but pay very little.
    ---
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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 15 10:15:00 2016
    07-14-16 10:47 Daryl Stout wrote to John Guillory about Re: Technology
    Howdy! Daryl,

    @MSGID: <5787B659.1152.dove-general@wx1der.dyndns.org>
    @REPLY: <5786CA5D.231.dove-general@kingcoder.net>
    John,


    To me, the only thing I want smoking or steaming is the food on my plate at a fancy restaurant.
    I can't see how people can afford smoking or drinking as vices.

    I can remember a sign at a Golden Corral we entered in Colorado, that said no smoking or vapors! Later, we started discovering similiar
    signs at other restaraunts and grocery stores.

    Most states have "no smoking" and "seat belt laws". In one way, it is government intrusion...but personal health and safety are important as well.

    There is a Golden Corral in North Little Rock, and their buffet (especially for desserts) is to die for!!

    My elderly Mom and I are trying to schedule a time when we'll go
    there for lunch. Most places now have senior citizen discounts, but it varies by age and/or day of the week. She'll be 90 this fall, and I do
    all the driving, shopping, etc. for her now.

    In Southern Indiana the Golden Corral has a Senior Early Bird special from
    2PM to 4PM Monday through Friday.

    HTH

    73 . .

    P.S. I just found out MultiMail can capture Your Tagline since You changed
    to a different BBS .QWK Packet Program.
    B4 the change, when I saw a GOOD Tagline in Your messages I'd have to enter
    it in by hand.
    U Did Gud.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to John Guillory on Sat Jul 16 09:08:00 2016
    John,

    Yes no smoking and seat belt laws, but not 'no vapors', but as I said,
    more and more restraunts are going to no vapors as well.

    I would think that vaping makes it more concentrated, and more dangerous.

    Especially, now that they've added breakfast to their menus! I normally
    don't like breakfast during the after noone, but every time I go to golden
    coral, I have to grab some eggs and bacon!

    For the one in North Little Rock, I think they only do a breakfast deal on the weekends, but I'm not sure. Two other area restaurants, Western Sizzlin,
    do a breakfast buffet on weekends, and they're located in Jacksonville (just south of the Little Rock Air Force Base), and in Benton.

    I believe Goldon Corral still has Senior Citizen Discounts for
    anyone 65 or older.

    I've got a ways to go yet. AARP lets you apply for membership if you're 50, and the senior discount for the Kroger grocery stores is at 55.

    I have to agree, if my mom would still be with me, I'd do anything
    I could to make her life better.

    I'm also her computer guru...but most times, I can solve a problem via
    remote logon, instead of going over there. Not that I don't want to see her, but she agrees that if I can fix it remotely, there's no need to waste the
    gas for the car.

    Daryl

    ... C:\BELFRY is where I keep my .BAT files. ^^^oo^^^
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 16 09:17:00 2016
    Tony,

    Vk3jed wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    I often don't drink when I'm out. It's not worth the hassle of getting caught by the booze bus or RBT station (basically any police unit),
    aside from the actual risk of driving after a drink.

    Around here, law enforcement really ramps up the DUI checkpoints, both locally, and on the interstates. The lady who does my monthly cleaning
    got caught DUI, but since it was her first offense, she didn't have to go
    to jail. She did, however, have to pay a fine, have a breathalyzer put in
    her car, and pay court costs. I quipped to her that she probably wished
    she could just run around nude, with a hanging sign that she was DUI...
    she laughed and said "Really...it would've saved me some money". But, she
    added that "I learned my lesson".

    It also reminds me of the joke where there was a big party at this
    residence, and there were reports of people coming out of there drunk as
    coots. So, this police officer set up as a "sting operation", and he was
    going to nab the first drunk driver he saw.

    Well, he didn't have to wait long, as this ol' boy comes staggering out, trying to find his car (it would seemingly be the last one). He gets in,
    closes the door, and falls asleep. The cop thinks "I've got this guy dead
    to rights".

    Shortly thereafter, the party breaks up, and everyone is walking out, seemingly perfectly normal, as if they are stone cold solber. They find
    their cars on the first try, get in, and drive off. The "drunk" wakes up,
    and starts his car, but is quickly pulled over by the cop. The guy consents
    to a breathalyzer test, and it reads "0.00" -- the cop thinks "WTH??!!".

    He asks the guy, "Now, wait a minute!! I know this thing works...but you stagger out of there like you were drunk as a coot, but you pass the field sobriety test, and the breathalyzer test!! How did you do it??".

    Grinning wryly, the guy says "Tonight...I was the designated decoy". <BG>

    I'm not sure what the minimum wage is here, but it would be over
    $15/hour. Junior rates are less, which is what makes places like
    McDonalds a good way for kids to start out in the working world. :)

    I worked for Burger King for 5 years in central Arkansas nearly 40 years
    ago, then worked in silkscreen printing for 18 years. One thing I liked
    about Burger King is that their burgers are "flame broiled", and all of the excess grease falls into a drip pan, that is cleaned out after closing. Not like other places where the burger is "swimming in grease". :P

    It's amazing what some of these taglines have...and some of us have gotten tagline acquisition down to an art and science.

    I was stealing taglines with the best of them 25 years ago! :D

    Daryl

    ... This tagline is donationware; send money to register it.

    :D

    I guess the check's in the mail, huh?? :P


    ... Refried beans? Why couldn't they do 'em right the FIRST time?

    I've wondered that myself, although I'm not a fan of Mexican food.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Ed Vance on Sat Jul 16 09:27:00 2016
    Howdy! Daryl,

    Hi, Ed...

    In Southern Indiana the Golden Corral has a Senior Early Bird special
    from 2PM to 4PM Monday through Friday.

    I'm not aware of them having that at the one in North Little Rock, and
    it's the only location in the area that I know of.

    HTH

    Got a lot of QRN on that one, OM...what is HTH??

    P.S. I just found out MultiMail can capture Your Tagline since You
    changed to a different BBS .QWK Packet Program.
    B4 the change, when I saw a GOOD Tagline in Your messages I'd have to enter it in by hand.
    U Did Gud.

    Well, just for grins, I deleted the original Multi-Mail directory
    contents, and removed it from the hard drive. I then opened the archive
    of MMWIN050.ZIP and ran the install program under Windows 7 32-bit. For whatever reason, since then, I've never had a problem with it...but I
    still have OLX on standby, as it were.

    I prefer MM, because you can get longer taglines.

    On another note, I'm sure you saw where AES (Amateur Electronic Supply)
    is closing their 4 locations (Milwaukee, Cleveland, Orlando, and Las Vegas)
    at the end of the month. However, HRO (Ham Radio Outlet) is going to do a
    full remodel on the AES Milwaukee location after it closes, and reopen it
    as the largest HRO location in the country. I think that makes HRO the
    biggest "candy store" in the country, but I hope they will also have a
    service department. Yet nowadays, it's cheaper to buy a new rig (or any
    other device), than to send if off for repairs.

    Lastly, I also reset the BBS software to Synchronet for the BBS's 24th birthday. Unfortunately, I couldn't import the user data, so I had to reset
    it. But, if you logon, I'll upgrade you within 24 hours...weather permitting
    of course.

    On that line, severe weather blasted through the region the last 2 nights. Thursday night, there was widespread wind damage and power outages, along
    with a Tornado Warning for my area. Then last night, the Little Rock
    National Airport got 2.28 inches of rain in an hour...1.72 inches of that
    in just 30 minutes. There was hellacious flooding there, plus in and
    around the downtown area. My power was out for an hour, but my internet
    was out from Thursday night until Saturday morning.

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mro on Sat Jul 16 09:42:00 2016
    best time to go is breakfast right before lunch because you can pay 9 bucks and get breakfast and the lunch stuff too.
    dont become one of those lard asses who goes there every day, though.

    There was one restaurant who noted that "the buffet is not for those
    to stay there all day"...you basically come in, purchase your meal, eat,
    then leave.

    Daryl

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 16 18:54:43 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Mro on Sat Jul 16 2016 09:42 am

    best time to go is breakfast right before lunch because you can pay 9 bucks and get breakfast and the lunch stuff too.
    dont become one of those lard asses who goes there every day, though.

    There was one restaurant who noted that "the buffet is not for those
    to stay there all day"...you basically come in, purchase your meal, eat, then leave.



    well i dont mean stay there for hours. you get there in time to just get the breakfast and then they change over to lunch whether you like it or not.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 17 08:25:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Around here, law enforcement really ramps up the DUI checkpoints,
    both locally, and on the interstates. The lady who does my monthly cleaning got caught DUI, but since it was her first offense, she didn't have to go to jail. She did, however, have to pay a fine, have a breathalyzer put in her car, and pay court costs. I quipped to her that she probably wished she could just run around nude, with a hanging sign that she was DUI... she laughed and said "Really...it would've saved me some money". But, she added that "I learned my lesson".

    Yep, they're pretty strict on it here too. There's also drug testing, mostly for cannabis and methamphetamine, which is picking up a lot of drug affected drivers. While I'm all for road safety, I'm not quite sure they've got the technology and enforcement quite right yet.

    Grinning wryly, the guy says "Tonight...I was the designated decoy".


    ROFL!!!! :D Wouldn't work here, the cops would test everyone they could

    I worked for Burger King for 5 years in central Arkansas nearly 40
    years ago, then worked in silkscreen printing for 18 years. One thing I

    I never worked in fast food. Instead, I worked in a guest house, partly in the grounds doing manual work and partly in the kitchen washing dishes and kitchenhand.

    liked about Burger King is that their burgers are "flame broiled", and
    all of the excess grease falls into a drip pan, that is cleaned out
    after closing. Not like other places where the burger is "swimming in grease". :P

    Yes, that would be a better way of cooking them. :)

    I guess the check's in the mail, huh?? :P

    LOL

    ... Refried beans? Why couldn't they do 'em right the FIRST time?

    I've wondered that myself, although I'm not a fan of Mexican food.

    Yeah I'm not big on Mexican either.

    Daryl

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    Sounds like some of the chains. :D


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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 16 22:45:00 2016
    07-16-16 09:27 Daryl Stout wrote to Ed Vance about Re: Technology
    Howdy! Again, Daryl,

    @MSGID: <578A4E8E.1176.dove-general@wx1der.dyndns.org>
    @REPLY: <5789A704.20579.dove-gen@capcity2.synchro.net>
    Howdy! Daryl,

    Hi, Ed...

    In Southern Indiana the Golden Corral has a Senior Early Bird special
    from 2PM to 4PM Monday through Friday.

    I'm not aware of them having that at the one in North Little Rock,
    and it's the only location in the area that I know of.

    HTH

    Got a lot of QRN on that one, OM...what is HTH??

    Hope this helps.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mro on Sun Jul 17 10:37:00 2016
    well i dont mean stay there for hours. you get there in time to just
    get the breakfast and then they change over to lunch whether you like
    it or not. ---

    I'd be too full after one meal to go for the other.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Ed Vance on Sun Jul 17 10:42:00 2016
    Howdy! Again, Daryl,

    Hi, Ed...

    HTH

    Got a lot of QRN on that one, OM...what is HTH??

    Hope this helps.

    It does...never had seen that one before.

    Daryl

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  • From Mickey@VERT/OXFORDMI to Mro on Sun Jul 17 16:24:53 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Mro to John Guillory on Fri Jul 15 2016 04:06 pm


    best time to go is breakfast right before lunch because you can pay 9 bucks
    and
    get breakfast and the lunch stuff too.
    dont become one of those lard asses who goes there every day, though.

    This is good sound advice. See y'all at 11:45 AM :-)



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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 17 17:56:02 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Mro on Sun Jul 17 2016 10:37 am

    well i dont mean stay there for hours. you get there in time to just get the breakfast and then they change over to lunch whether you like it or not. ---

    I'd be too full after one meal to go for the other.



    yeah i'm not saying to eat two meals.
    i said you can go there and get both types of food
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 21 17:20:32 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Vk3jed to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 17 2016 08:25 am

    Yep, they're pretty strict on it here too. There's also drug testing, mostly for cannabis and methamphetamine, which is picking up a lot of drug affected drivers. While I'm all for road safety, I'm not quite sure
    they've got the technology and enforcement quite right yet.


    whats the test for cannabis? all we have is hair and piss. is there a way
    to tell if they are on it right then?
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mro on Fri Jul 22 15:58:00 2016
    Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Vk3jed to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 17 2016 08:25 am

    Yep, they're pretty strict on it here too. There's also drug testing, mostly for cannabis and methamphetamine, which is picking up a lot of drug affected drivers. While I'm all for road safety, I'm not quite sure
    they've got the technology and enforcement quite right yet.


    whats the test for cannabis? all we have is hair and piss. is there a
    way to tell if they are on it right then?

    It's a saliva text. They have 2 indicator tests in the field (one on the roadside, the other in a drug/booze bus or a police station), with a lab analysis being the final decider.


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 22 15:44:26 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Vk3jed to Mro on Fri Jul 22 2016 03:58 pm


    It's a saliva text. They have 2 indicator tests in the field (one on the roadside, the other in a drug/booze bus or a police station), with a lab analysis being the final decider.


    oh we have that for employers but i'm not sure if any of these tests show that people are using marjuana at the time or if they just secrete it from past use. ---
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mro on Sat Jul 23 08:24:00 2016
    Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    oh we have that for employers but i'm not sure if any of these tests
    show that people are using marjuana at the time or if they just secrete
    it from past use. ---

    It can hang around in your system for a while.


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sun Jul 24 15:04:26 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Vk3jed to Mro on Sat Jul 23 2016 08:24 am

    oh we have that for employers but i'm not sure if any of these tests show that people are using marjuana at the time or if they just
    secrete it from past use. ---

    It can hang around in your system for a while.



    it can hang around in your system a long time. i just dont know how they can gauge that you are 'high' on the drug at that moment.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Mro on Mon Jul 25 08:03:00 2016
    Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    it can hang around in your system a long time. i just dont know how
    they can gauge that you are 'high' on the drug at that moment.

    Yeah, that I'm not too sure. I personally think more work needs to be done on marijuana testing, and also I do know people who actually _do_ function better on some dose, who don't seem to get high.


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  • From John Guillory@VERT/MAINLINE to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 26 15:12:48 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to John Guillory on Sat Jul 16 2016 09:08 am

    I've got a ways to go yet. AARP lets you apply for membership if you're 50, and the senior discount for the Kroger grocery stores is at 55.

    Actually, AARP doesn't have a minimum age limit to apply. I'm a member, and I'm 46 years old.

    ... Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss

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  • From John Guillory@VERT/MAINLINE to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 26 15:20:32 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Daryl Stout to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 16 2016 09:17 am

    Around here, law enforcement really ramps up the DUI checkpoints, both locally, and on the interstates. The lady who does my monthly cleaning
    got caught DUI, but since it was her first offense, she didn't have to go to jail. She did, however, have to pay a fine, have a breathalyzer put in her car, and pay court costs. I quipped to her that she probably wished she could just run around nude, with a hanging sign that she was DUI... she laughed and said "Really...it would've saved me some money". But, she added that "I learned my lesson".

    Well, in Louisiana, they advertise what date, time, and location down to the street that the police will be setting up a DUI checkpoint on. And stupid thing is, they still get DUI's! But, corruption allows for various young ladies to get off by paying a small fee to the D.A. and they don't have to put a breathalyzer in their car, or have high-risk insurance. In fact, one girl killed a young boy on Christmas Day, was out on good behavior, and that she promised to be a good little girl. I think within a week or two she had another DUI charge against her... I bet the judge that gave her the reduced sentence wanted to kick his self when he saw her coming back in for a second DUI....

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to John Guillory on Tue Jul 26 18:17:16 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: John Guillory to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 26 2016 03:12 pm

    Actually, AARP doesn't have a minimum age limit to apply. I'm a member, and I'm 46 years old.

    Oh, I totally want to get an AARP card now. :)

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to John Guillory on Tue Jul 26 21:47:00 2016
    Actually, AARP doesn't have a minimum age limit to apply. I'm a member, and I'm 46 years old.

    Interesting. However, their "supplemental Insurance Plan" requires one
    to be at least 62, IIRC. I had asked about this awhile back, and was
    curtly told "I wasn't old enough".

    Daryl

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed Aug 10 08:20:00 2016
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

    Thank you!!! I'm KM4UXV and have been somewhat active (and I emailed Rick
    last night) - she's KM4UXW and is planning to be active for Skywarn, etc.

    Cool to have sequential callsigns.

    Yeah! Though her first name is Vanessa, so she should have the "V."
    Maybe "W" is for "Wife?" LOL

    She mentioned the "V" should have been hers too, but we never thougt of
    Wife. :-)

    We're supposed to have scattered storms here from Friday into next Wednesday. So, if you can't get into the BBS, try again later.
    Lightning dances around here like an ungrounded Faraday cage.

    Will do! Thanks!

    And I'm finally back to checking my echomail after a little time away...
    School has started and things have been hectic. I just Telnet'ed into
    Neptune's Lair to check mail - then tried your board. Couldn't connect.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DARYL STOUT on Wed Aug 10 08:29:00 2016
    DARYL STOUT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I just joined everything for now. :-) If Neptune's Lair doesn't come back
    up I'll be using you for FIDO... Hopefully you can add the ones I'm
    issing?

    I will have to check the backbone listing every so often, to make
    sure I have all the areas, and have to notify my hub (Janis Kracht)
    that I want them.

    Thanks for that! Just in case. :-)

    I am so
    ready for winter to get rid of the heat, insects, and tornadoes.

    I'm not ready for 'winter' nessasarily, but this heat has been something else for sure!


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to NIGHTFOX on Wed Aug 10 08:31:00 2016
    NIGHTFOX wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Some cars (such as mine) will automatically lock the doors in some circumstances
    (I think only if the driver door is unlocked, but not when all 4 doors
    are unlocked). After I noticed my car does that, I have been
    especially careful not
    to leave my car key inside the car when I get out. :)

    I drive an 06 Chevy Silverado :-)


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to MRO on Wed Aug 10 10:08:00 2016
    MRO wrote to VK3JED <=-

    Yep, they're pretty strict on it here too. There's also drug testing, mostly for cannabis and methamphetamine, which is picking up a lot of drug affected drivers. While I'm all for road safety, I'm not quite sure
    they've got the technology and enforcement quite right yet.


    whats the test for cannabis? all we have is hair and piss. is there a
    way to tell if they are on it right then?


    I was talking to a vendor yesterday about the drug screening they use and
    I learned about a cheek swab.


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Aug 13 14:27:54 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MRO on Wed Aug 10 2016 10:08 am

    whats the test for cannabis? all we have is hair and piss. is there a way to tell if they are on it right then?


    I was talking to a vendor yesterday about the drug screening they use and
    I learned about a cheek swab.



    yeah, my employer is doing cheek swabs for new employees. i dont know how accurate it is, though.
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  • From Captain Obvious@VERT/SHADOW9 to Mro on Sat Aug 13 18:17:00 2016
    yeah, my employer is doing cheek swabs for new employees. i dont know how accurate it is, though.


    We look at doing cheek swabs and stuck with pee tests but doing it orally can detect drugs after the most recent use and I think up to four (maybe it was five) days. Pee tests aren't as accurate supposedly.
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to CAPTAIN OBVIOUS on Mon Aug 15 10:20:00 2016
    CAPTAIN OBVIOUS wrote to MRO <=-

    @VIA: SHADOW9
    @MSGID: <57AF9D17.84905.dove-gen@vert.synchro.net>
    yeah, my employer is doing cheek swabs for new employees. i dont know how accurate it is, though.


    We look at doing cheek swabs and stuck with pee tests but doing it
    orally can detect drugs after the most recent use and I think up to
    four (maybe it was five) days. Pee tests aren't as accurate supposedly.


    Also harder to fake cheek spittle than it is to use synthetic urine...


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Aug 15 15:55:04 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to CAPTAIN OBVIOUS on Mon Aug 15 2016 10:20 am

    Also harder to fake cheek spittle than it is to use synthetic urine...



    what if they coat the inside of their mouth with something
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  • From Captain Obvious@VERT/SHADOW9 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Aug 15 19:10:00 2016
    Also harder to fake cheek spittle than it is to use synthetic urine...


    lol. Very true. I guess for some people though where there's a will there's a way.

    We hair test all of our manager trainees once they are finished with their
    in the field training and sent to the corporate office for the final week.
    It's amazing how many guys I have seen completely shave their bodies thinking that will save them. Idiots. In that case it quickly changes from hair to
    blood test and they take a REAL good long look at that person again.
  • From Captain Obvious@VERT/SHADOW9 to Mro on Mon Aug 15 19:41:00 2016
    what if they coat the inside of their mouth with something


    There's a gum called Oral Clear that supposedly neutralizes your saliva and leaves you about a 30-minute window.

    Richard Miles
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Captain Obvious on Mon Aug 15 20:14:03 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Captain Obvious to JIMMY ANDERSON on Mon Aug 15 2016 07:10 pm

    Also harder to fake cheek spittle than it is to use synthetic urine...


    lol. Very true. I guess for some people though where there's a will there's a way.

    We hair test all of our manager trainees once they are finished with their in the field training and sent to the corporate office for the final week. It's amazing how many guys I have seen completely shave their bodies thinking that will save them. Idiots. In that case it quickly changes from hair to blood test and they take a REAL good long look at that person
    again.


    they can take nose hair, right?

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Captain Obvious on Mon Aug 15 20:14:24 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Captain Obvious to Mro on Mon Aug 15 2016 07:41 pm

    what if they coat the inside of their mouth with something


    There's a gum called Oral Clear that supposedly neutralizes your saliva and leaves you about a 30-minute window.



    i bet bleach would strip out your mouth well.
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  • From Captain Obvious@VERT/SHADOW9 to Mro on Tue Aug 16 04:11:00 2016
    they can take nose hair, right?


    Yes. Nose hair, butt hair. I don't know how big a sample they have to have though.
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Captain Obvious on Tue Aug 16 08:12:50 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Captain Obvious to Mro on Mon Aug 15 2016 07:41 pm

    There's a gum called Oral Clear that supposedly neutralizes your saliva and leaves you about a 30-minute window.

    There's a great marketing scheme! Repackage some off-brand gum, like maybe Quench gum, that gum that makes your mouth water up for when you're playing sports outdoors?

    (Make sure to chew thoroughly then spit out the saliva before your test)

    And if your scam fails, what are they going to do? Go to the BBB and complain that your gum didn't clear up their positive test for weed, Horse NyQuil and amphetamines?


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Mro on Tue Aug 16 08:14:33 2016
    Re: Re: Technology
    By: Mro to Captain Obvious on Mon Aug 15 2016 08:14 pm

    they can take nose hair, right?

    Or any kind of hair? Cue the Nurse Ratchet character with a latex glove,
    rusty tweezers and a magnifying glass.

    (camera pulls back, door slams)

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