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  • Hello Everyone!

    From Misfit@VERT to All on Thu Mar 12 12:46:08 2015
    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen for some
    old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!

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  • From Gandolf@VERT to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 18:03:55 2015
    On 03/12/2015 01:46 PM, Misfit wrote:
    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen for some
    old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack
    as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!



    Do you have a phone number and/or a URL setup yet?
    Or are you just going to tease us?

    0_O

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Vertrauen ■ Home of Synchronet ■ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 17:11:10 2015
    Hello Misfit,

    On 12 Mar 15 12:46, Misfit wrote to All:

    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to
    get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and
    dialup Vertrauen for some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I
    can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    It may not be your connection speed at all. Which Pi are you using? The single core, or dual? I'm guessing even the creators realized the single core was underpowered for them to come out with a dual core fairly soon after the fact.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 22:52:27 2015
    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen for some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!

    Doing a fax over a MagicJack sounds pretty darn impressive by itself! VOIP and Fax tend to hate each other.

    ~KenDB3

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    ■ Synchronet ■ KD3net-Rhode Island's only BBS about nothing. http://bbs.kd3.us
  • From Deuce@VERT/SYNCNIX to Accession on Fri Mar 13 15:14:34 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Accession to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 05:11 pm

    It may not be your connection speed at all. Which Pi are you using? The single core, or dual? I'm guessing even the creators realized the single core was underpowered for them to come out with a dual core fairly soon after the fact.

    There are no dual-core Pis, only single and quad cores.

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  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to Gandolf on Fri Mar 13 21:31:11 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Gandolf to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 06:03 pm

    On 03/12/2015 01:46 PM, Misfit wrote:
    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but toda decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen for old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using Magic as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!



    Do you have a phone number and/or a URL setup yet?
    Or are you just going to tease us?

    0_O

    Nah. Nothing exciting here. I mainly just run it on a RPi so I can lurked the boards without having to telnet out to one of the real boards. If I get motivated and find the time, I will start customizing and making it unique and wothwhile. It has been decades since I've done that and unfortunetly my time these days is very limited.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Emerald Hill - bbs.emeraldhill.org
  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to Accession on Fri Mar 13 21:32:12 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Accession to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 05:11 pm

    Hello Misfit,

    On 12 Mar 15 12:46, Misfit wrote to All:

    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen for some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    It may not be your connection speed at all. Which Pi are you using? The sing core, or dual? I'm guessing even the creators realized the single core was underpowered for them to come out with a dual core fairly soon after the fac

    Regards,
    Nick

    Single core, however I was refering to calling out (dialuo) to Digital Man's BBS, not the Synchronet running on my RPi.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Emerald Hill - bbs.emeraldhill.org
  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to KenDB3 on Fri Mar 13 21:33:33 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: KenDB3 to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 10:52 pm

    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but tod I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a mode USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen fo some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!

    Doing a fax over a MagicJack sounds pretty darn impressive by itself! VOIP a Fax tend to hate each other.

    ~KenDB3

    Yeah. When I first got MJ years ago, I could only fax at 14.4 kb/s. Even then, sometimes it wouldn't go through. Now, however, I can fax reliabily at 33.6 kb/s. MJ must have improved their QoS.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Emerald Hill - bbs.emeraldhill.org
  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to Deuce on Fri Mar 13 21:34:49 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Deuce to Accession on Fri Mar 13 2015 03:14 pm

    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Accession to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 05:11 pm

    It may not be your connection speed at all. Which Pi are you using? The single core, or dual? I'm guessing even the creators realized the single core was underpowered for them to come out with a dual core fairly soon after the fact.

    There are no dual-core Pis, only single and quad cores.

    The RPi-2 is ony my list of "things to get around to eventually".

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Emerald Hill - bbs.emeraldhill.org
  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Misfit on Sat Mar 14 10:41:00 2015
    On 03/13/15, Misfit said the following...

    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Deuce to Accession on Fri Mar 13 2015 03:14 pm

    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Accession to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 05:11 pm

    It may not be your connection speed at all. Which Pi are you using? single core, or dual? I'm guessing even the creators realized the si core was underpowered for them to come out with a dual core fairly s after the fact.

    There are no dual-core Pis, only single and quad cores.

    The RPi-2 is ony my list of "things to get around to eventually".


    I've got a RPiB+, but I don't intend to get a RPi-2; I'm looking to get an ODROID U3

    RPi2 ODROID U3
    900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU 1.7GHz quad core
    1GB Ram 2GB Ram
    $35 $69

    Sure it costs 2x as much. But it has 2x as much under the hood too. It also run Android 4.4 :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Deuce on Sat Mar 14 09:27:22 2015
    Hello Deuce,

    On 13 Mar 15 15:14, Deuce wrote to Accession:

    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Accession to Misfit on Thu Mar 12 2015 05:11 pm

    It may not be your connection speed at all. Which Pi are you using?
    The single core, or dual? I'm guessing even the creators realized
    the single core was underpowered for them to come out with a dual
    core fairly soon after the fact.

    There are no dual-core Pis, only single and quad cores.

    Ah, thanks for that bit of info. I don't own a Pi, nor will I ever.. but was just trying to help him out. Looks like they made a smarter jump than what I originaly thought, at least. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Gryphon on Sat Mar 14 13:23:38 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Gryphon to Misfit on Sat Mar 14 2015 10:41:00

    Sure it costs 2x as much. But it has 2x as much under the hood too. It also run Android 4.4 :)

    I'd think the OS alone is a good reason to axe that. :P

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  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to Gryphon on Sat Mar 14 20:15:05 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Gryphon to Misfit on Sat Mar 14 2015 10:41 am

    I've got a RPiB+, but I don't intend to get a RPi-2; I'm looking to get an ODROID U3

    RPi2 ODROID U3
    900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU 1.7GHz quad core
    1GB Ram 2GB Ram
    $35 $69

    Sure it costs 2x as much. But it has 2x as much under the hood too. It als run Android 4.4 :)

    Yeah. that board caught my eye also. If you don't mind, after you get it write about your impression and experience with it here. :-)

    Even though I'm heavily in the Apple ecosystem, running something Android on a card would be fun and interesting.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Emerald Hill - bbs.emeraldhill.org
  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Khelair on Sat Mar 14 21:19:00 2015
    On 03/14/15, Khelair said the following...

    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Gryphon to Misfit on Sat Mar 14 2015 10:41:00

    Sure it costs 2x as much. But it has 2x as much under the hood too. also run Android 4.4 :)

    I'd think the OS alone is a good reason to axe that. :P

    That isn't the only OS it runs. It runs all ARM flavors of linux too. You
    can get it with either Xubuntu or Android 4.4. But you can also install debian, fedora, arch, etc.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 (Linux)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | Cyberia.Darktech.Org | Kingwood, TX
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Misfit on Tue Mar 17 08:52:00 2015
    Misfit wrote to All <=-

    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to
    get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and
    dialup Vertrauen for some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I
    can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    This rocks.

    ... TWENTY PERCENT OF DENTISTS RECOMMEND GUM
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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Misfit on Tue Mar 17 08:59:00 2015
    Misfit wrote to Deuce <=-

    The RPi-2 is ony my list of "things to get around to eventually".

    My local computer store has started to carry Pis, cases and accessories. I might have to pick one up, now.



    ... Always the first steps
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  • From Dreamer@VERT/SETXBBS to KenDB3 on Tue Mar 17 20:38:00 2015
    KenDB3 wrote to Misfit <=-

    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but today I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a moderm USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen for some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!

    Doing a fax over a MagicJack sounds pretty darn impressive by itself!
    VOIP and Fax tend to hate each other.

    I used MagicJack exclusively as a phone for years. I did a lot of research while trying to use a modem on it, as well as fax. Turns out there are
    special codecs that various VOIP providers use. The software detects what
    type of audio it's trying to encode (data, fax, voice) and switches to use
    a particular codec (if supported). I'm pretty sure MagicJack includes
    the fax codec (I'm not currently in an area with Internet, so can't look
    up what it's called), as the only time I had problems faxing was when I had
    the local AT&T DSL with fairly high latency. Even then, I fiddled with my
    fax settings (some sort of international mode, locked at low-speed, etc) and was able to send faxes.

    Now, on the other hand, MagicJack hates modems. As far as I can tell, they don't include any support for them, which makes sense; why should they? On
    the other hand, when I had a voice line with my cable company, I was able to connect with fairly impressive rates. Again, makes sense, since they're
    trying to get lots of businesses to switch, and they have to support the ones with data modems. (Case in point: Waffle House's business software is still
    all DOS based, and communicates nightly with corporate office (reminescent
    of an FTN or QWK network, actually -- I'd love to dig into the scripts!).
    Last year, for whatever reason, our local franchise decided to dump the phone company in favor of Time Warner Cable voice. We've had no problems with data transmission over VOIP.


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  • From Misfit@VERT/EMERALD to Dreamer on Wed Mar 18 06:43:30 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Dreamer to KenDB3 on Tue Mar 17 2015 08:38 pm

    KenDB3 wrote to Misfit <=-

    Hello everyone,
    I run Synchronet on a Raspberry Pi (mainly for my own enjoyment), but tod
    ay
    I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a mode
    rm
    USBS-Serial cable), config my Mac for everything, and dialup Vertrauen fo
    r
    some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way to test everything.

    Working okay so far, although a little laggy. I blame that on using MagicJack as my VOiP provider. Probably not the best QoS. Although I can fax stuff at 33.6 fine on this line.

    Cheers!

    Doing a fax over a MagicJack sounds pretty darn impressive by itself! VOIP and Fax tend to hate each other.

    I used MagicJack exclusively as a phone for years. I did a lot of research while trying to use a modem on it, as well as fax. Turns out there are special codecs that various VOIP providers use. The software detects what type of audio it's trying to encode (data, fax, voice) and switches to use
    a particular codec (if supported). I'm pretty sure MagicJack includes
    the fax codec (I'm not currently in an area with Internet, so can't look
    up what it's called), as the only time I had problems faxing was when I had the local AT&T DSL with fairly high latency. Even then, I fiddled with my fax settings (some sort of international mode, locked at low-speed, etc) and was able to send faxes.

    Now, on the other hand, MagicJack hates modems. As far as I can tell, they don't include any support for them, which makes sense; why should they? On the other hand, when I had a voice line with my cable company, I was able to connect with fairly impressive rates. Again, makes sense, since they're trying to get lots of businesses to switch, and they have to support the one
    s
    with data modems. (Case in point: Waffle House's business software is still all DOS based, and communicates nightly with corporate office (reminescent of an FTN or QWK network, actually -- I'd love to dig into the scripts!). Last year, for whatever reason, our local franchise decided to dump the phon
    e
    company in favor of Time Warner Cable voice. We've had no problems with data transmission over VOIP.



    Interesting. That definetly explains why MJ works decently for faxing, but
    not so well for modeming! Lag was pretty bad, something like zmodem definetly would not had worked.

    All the best,
    Misfit


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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Poindexter Fortran on Wed Mar 18 08:00:14 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Misfit on Tue Mar 17 2015 08:59 am

    The RPi-2 is ony my list of "things to get around to eventually".
    My local computer store has started to carry Pis, cases and accessories. I might have to pick one up, now.

    I have a RPi in my CosmosEx, it's a device that lets you use USB devices and SD Cards for HDD emulation on an Atari ST. Thing freaking rocks, and you can still access the RPi for "other" things without removing it from the Atari.

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  • From Dreamer@VERT/SETXBBS to Misfit on Wed Mar 18 20:00:00 2015
    Interesting. That definetly explains why MJ works decently for faxing, but not so well for modeming! Lag was pretty bad, something like zmodem definetly would not had worked.

    You're doing better than me. At least with the modem I have, I can't even maintain a low speed data connection for longer than a minute.


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    ■ Synchronet ■ Southeast Texas BBS
  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Dreamer on Wed Mar 18 22:32:02 2015
    Doing a fax over a MagicJack sounds pretty darn impressive by itself! VOIP and Fax tend to hate each other.

    I used MagicJack exclusively as a phone for years. I did a lot of research while trying to use a modem on it, as well as fax. Turns out there are special codecs that various VOIP providers use. The software detects what type of audio it's trying to encode (data, fax, voice) and switches to use a particular codec (if supported). I'm pretty sure MagicJack includes the fax codec (I'm not currently in an area with Internet, so can't look up what it's called), as the only time I had problems faxing was when I had the local AT&T DSL with fairly high latency. Even then, I fiddled with my fax settings (some sort of international mode, locked at low-speed, etc) and was able to send faxes.

    Now, on the other hand, MagicJack hates modems. As far as I can tell, they don't include any support for them, which makes sense; why should they? On the other hand, when I had a voice line with my cable company, I was able to connect with fairly impressive rates. Again, makes sense, since they're trying to get lots of businesses to switch, and they have to support the ones with data modems. (Case in point: Waffle House's business software is still all DOS based, and communicates nightly with corporate office (reminescent of an FTN or QWK network, actually -- I'd love to dig into the scripts!). Last year, for whatever reason, our local franchise decided to dump the phone company in favor of Time Warner Cable voice. We've had no problems with data transmission over VOIP.

    I've heard of what you are talking about. It's a Fax over IP protocol (FoIP) called ôT.38ö. I've also heard a bit about Modem over IP (MoIP), but I don't think many companies implement it. I work for a Cable/Telco, and we have older phone switches that work very much like the old AT&T/Bell Labs stuff, but we also have more modern phone switches. In both cases we use a G.711 codec because it is PSTN standard toll quality for the calls. Also, the older switches still support circuit switched for some of our older equipment, as well as packet switched. The packet switched stuff is only packet while it moves across our backbone, it eventually hits the PSTN at some point and becomes standard circuit switched. That lets us prioritize any packet voice traffic over everything else while its on our network. I'm sure Time Warner is very similar in their architecture.

    We don't, however, inspect customer's data packets and cannot tell the difference between their web browsing traffic and their Vonage or MagicJack traffic. So, we don't prioritize that voice traffic at all, which can affect those services if there is network congestion. With constant network improvements and speed increases overall (backbone as well as at the customer end), the stuff that affects VoIP quality (Jitter, Delay) starts to become less of a problem.

    ~KenDB3

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    ■ Synchronet ■ KD3net-Rhode Island's only BBS about nothing. http://bbs.kd3.us
  • From Hustler@VERT/REALITY to Misfit on Fri Mar 20 01:39:05 2015
    Re: Re: Hello Everyone!
    By: Misfit to Dreamer on Wed Mar 18 2015 06:43 am

    I decided to pull out the the 'ol USR Sportster, cable (had to get a mode
    some old school dialup nostalgia. Plus figured it would be a good way
    to test everything.

    I could never go back to anolog. That would be like trading in my 2014 Honda for a Model T.

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