• Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?

    From Gandolf@VERT to Mr. Cool on Sun Oct 29 20:04:41 2017
    Which part of the 90s?

    I started with DOS 3.3, on a 386/25Mhz with an 80MB hard drive and 4MB
    of RAM. For those of you that remember, that version of DOS could only
    see ~32MB partitions. Pissed me off to no end.

    The upgrade on the above computer to DOS 5.0 was awesome, not only
    because it unified my 80MB HD, but it was fantastically stable. If
    something crashed, it was the application, not the OS.

    Win 3.1 was only a GUI installed on top of DOS. Win 3.1 doesn't count
    as an OS. (Win 3.1 also turned a 386 into an XT, but that's a totally different discussion.)

    Win95 was pretty on initial startup, but buggy as hell down the road.

    Win98SE was a fantastic gaming platform for its time, and I still have
    it emulated on my Linux server. (Just for $hits and giggles.)

    MacOS was absolutely fantastic for its time, but damn expensive.
    (Nothing has changed with Mac in that regard.)

    That's my 2¢.



    On 10/29/2017 06:00 PM, Mr. Cool wrote:
    1: Windows
    2: Macintosh
    3: OS/2
    4: UNIX/Linux
    5: NEXTStep
    6: Other


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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Gandolf on Mon Oct 30 01:37:03 2017
    On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 20:04:41 -0600, "Gandolf" <gandolf@VERT> wrote:

    Which part of the 90s?

    I started with DOS 3.3, on a 386/25Mhz with an 80MB hard drive and 4MB
    of RAM. For those of you that remember, that version of DOS could only
    see ~32MB partitions. Pissed me off to no end.

    Give me some Turbodos with a bit of arcnet!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mr. Cool on Mon Oct 30 09:53:52 2017
    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Gandolf to Mr. Cool on Sun Oct 29 2017 08:04 pm

    I suppose overall it might be Windows, since I ran mostly Windows due to software support. However up until around 1994 or 1995 or so, I used MS-DOS mainly. In the 90s I also played with several other operating systems - I ran OS/2 for a little bit and also started learning Linux. At one time I had my PC multi-booting Windows, OS/2, and Linux. And around 1998 or 1999 or so, I also gave BeOS a try. I thought BeOS looked fairly promising for a new OS.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nelgin on Mon Oct 30 10:14:19 2017
    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Nelgin to Gandolf on Mon Oct 30 2017 01:37 am

    Give me some Turbodos with a bit of arcnet!

    AAAAAAH!

    ARCnet - pain in the butt, but resilient as all hell. I worked at a token-ring shop, so when we set up our first Netware network we ended up using ARCnet because token-passing algorithms were familiar.

    We had some thinnet Ethernet, too - I spent a ton of time at this job crawling under desks and checking terminators and coax connectors.

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  • From Mr. Cool@VERT/DIGDIST to Nelgin on Mon Oct 30 15:45:46 2017
    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Nelgin to Gandolf on Mon Oct 30 2017 01:37 am

    Give me some Turbodos with a bit of arcnet!

    That's two for DOS. I should have added it, I almost did.

    - Mr. Cool

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Tue Oct 31 11:16:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to Mr. Cool <=-

    I suppose overall it might be Windows, since I ran mostly Windows due
    to software support. However up until around 1994 or 1995 or so, I
    used MS-DOS mainly. In the 90s I also played with several other
    operating systems - I ran OS/2 for a little bit and also started
    learning Linux. At one time I had my PC multi-booting Windows, OS/2,
    and Linux. And around 1998 or 1999 or so, I also gave BeOS a try. I thought BeOS looked fairly promising for a new OS.

    In the early - mid 1990s, OS/2 was my preferred OS. By late 1990s, it was Linux.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 31 11:23:00 2017
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nelgin <=-

    ARCnet - pain in the butt, but resilient as all hell. I worked at a token-ring shop, so when we set up our first Netware network we ended
    up using ARCnet because token-passing algorithms were familiar.

    I remember discovering some old Arcnet gear at work, no documentation, but I managed to get some of it working, using Linux. Seemed to work quite well at the time. For me, it was a technical challenge at the time.

    We had some thinnet Ethernet, too - I spent a ton of time at this job crawling under desks and checking terminators and coax connectors.

    Thinnet was a pain, having to look for the broken coax or loose connector. When Cat 5 and hubs came along, it was a godsend. :)


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  • From Mr. Cool@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Mon Oct 30 18:33:12 2017
    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Nightfox to Mr. Cool on Mon Oct 30 2017 09:53 am

    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Gandolf to Mr. Cool on Sun Oct 29 2017 08:04 pm

    I suppose overall it might be Windows, since I ran mostly Windows due to software support. However up until around 1994 or 1995 or so, I used MS-DOS mainly. In the 90s I also played with several other operating systems - I r OS/2 for a little bit and also started learning Linux. At one time I had my multi-booting Windows, OS/2, and Linux. And around 1998 or 1999 or so, I al gave BeOS a try. I thought BeOS looked fairly promising for a new OS.

    Nightfox

    I was mainly a Windows user myself, although I used to play a little on the DOS Prompt as a kid. I think I actually managed to FDISK my dad's computer, which back in that day meant lots of disk swapping to reinstall Windows. OS/2 is a system that I found out about in more recent years. One of these days, I may try to aquire a copy to play around with. Of course I had plenty of exposure to Apple computers as well, since it seemed that all the schools had were Apple IIGS systems, Macintosh systems, and a few older Apple II's.

    - Mr. Cool

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 31 12:18:39 2017
    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nelgin on Mon Oct 30 2017 10:14 am

    We had some thinnet Ethernet, too - I spent a ton of time at this job crawling under desks and checking terminators and coax connectors.

    Haha, plug that sucker right in...oh, never knew I needed a T joint and a terminator! My introduction to coax networking. It didn't help that the Unix box kept panicing when I tried to install the i386 tcp drivers. No wonder, it was a MCA device! haha. Oh, how we learned our trade on the job in those days. none of this 4 year college crap they want these days.

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Mr. Cool on Tue Oct 31 13:57:47 2017
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 18:33:12 -0800, "Mr. Cool" <mr..cool@VERT/DIGDIST>
    wrote:

    I was mainly a Windows user myself, although I used to play a little on the DOS
    Prompt as a kid. I think I actually managed to FDISK my dad's computer, which >back in that day meant lots of disk swapping to reinstall Windows. OS/2 is a >system that I found out about in more recent years. One of these days, I may >try to aquire a copy to play around with. Of course I had plenty of exposure >to Apple computers as well, since it seemed that all the schools had were Apple
    IIGS systems, Macintosh systems, and a few older Apple II's.

    We got some Compaq computers at work with bastardized versions of
    Windows 3.11 on them. I promptly scrubbed that and stuck MSDOS on it. Personally, I perferred the VT100 terminal that way on my desk.

    My first real job at the end of the 80's was programming in Datalfex
    4GL on a Turbodos system and at that stage we were starting to
    tranisition over to Unix. I remember we got this Apricot FT Server. It
    was a Micro Channel Architecture machine with built in UPS, 5 1/4
    floppy drive, fancy LCD panel...took 2 people to lift that thing. SCO Unix...those were the days.

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  • From Kirkman@VERT/GUARDIAN to Mr. Cool on Wed Nov 1 09:51:22 2017
    Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Mr. Cool to on Sun Oct 29 2017 04:00 pm

    1: Windows
    2: Macintosh
    3: OS/2
    4: UNIX/Linux
    5: NEXTStep
    6: Other

    Atari's TOS is what I used growing up with Atari ST and STe computers. I suppose it's more of a 1980s OS, but it survived until about 1994. The final official versions were TOS for the Falcon030 computer.

    After that hobbyists and third-party companies carried the torch with their own Atari OSes like MiNT, MagiC, and EmuTOS.

    --Josh

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Mr. Cool on Wed Nov 1 20:29:50 2017
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:45:46 -0800, "Mr. Cool" <mr..cool@VERT/DIGDIST>
    wrote:

    Re: Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Nelgin to Gandolf on Mon Oct 30 2017 01:37 am

    Give me some Turbodos with a bit of arcnet!

    That's two for DOS. I should have added it, I almost did.

    TurboDos != DOS -

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nelgin on Sun Nov 5 09:11:00 2017
    Nelgin wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Oh, how we learned our
    trade on the job in those days. none of this 4 year college crap they
    want these days.

    I got my start in corporate telecom, and luckily that was all taught
    on the job - there wasn't a program for that. I spent 4 hours billable
    being taught by the vendor, then left to my own designs with the
    caveat that I was a Billable Problem.

    I parlayed that experience into a couple of decent jobs.





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nelgin on Sun Nov 5 09:15:00 2017
    Nelgin wrote to Mr. Cool <=-

    floppy drive, fancy LCD panel...took 2 people to lift that thing. SCO Unix...those were the days.

    I supported a lawson reportwriter system we had at a mail-order
    retailer. The main system ran on an AS/400, the reports were
    downloaded to a SCO UNIX box running the reportwriter software and
    Lotus 1-2-3 for Unix.

    The accounting people had terminals and logins to the unix box and
    could connect to the AS/400s as needed. Nice little system.

    I got to go to SCO for a week-long training class. A sysop in my
    othernet was going to UC Santa Cruz, and we spent lunch hours on the
    grass outside the campus, spent a good part of my time after class in
    the dorms, the other part at a hotel overlooking the ocean. Good
    times.

    My boss was pissed that I came back with a tan.


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  • From Mr. Cool@VERT/DIGDIST to Kirkman on Sun Nov 5 11:59:09 2017
    Re: What is your preferred 1990's OS?
    By: Kirkman to Mr. Cool on Wed Nov 01 2017 09:51 am

    Atari's TOS is what I used growing up with Atari ST and STe computers. I suppose it's more of a 1980s OS, but it survived until about 1994. The final official versions were TOS for the Falcon030 computer.

    I don't believe that I've ever used that one, although I've known about it for a while. I have also used the DOS version of the GEM interface (OpenGEM).
    I'm a little disappointed that they seem to have stopped developement of OpenGEM as it was a nice GUI.

    - Mr. Cool

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