• Progressive Press

    From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to All on Fri Mar 1 23:34:24 2013
    Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from city up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they
    call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an assault weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they just want to band them.
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
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  • From First Officer@VERT/HOLODECK to Jeff.Clayton on Sat Mar 2 11:22:28 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 11:34 pm

    Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from city up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an assault
    weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they just want to band them.

    I disagree with this to a point Jeff.. They know that he did not use that assault rifle. They are not jumping up and down telling people about it. I would bet that at least 80% of the people You met on the street and asked would
    still tell you he used an assault rifle. They don't know any different because the Govt and the media are laying low on that info. I don't believe all these gun bans and control of ammo is about keeping our streets safe so to speak. I believe it is a bit deeper than that. They know what they are doing, but I believe they are trying to keep the common law abiding person from realizing it. I hate to think of what the excuse will be the next time a shooting spree happens and all these gun laws are in effect. Oh well nobody is stopping them either.


    Have a good One!
    Mike

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Jeff.Clayton on Sun Mar 3 06:44:02 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

    Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from cit up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his ca and used pistols. They do not even understand what an assault weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they just want to band them.
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

    Yeah, I've noticed. The thing that I find funny is that 'assault
    weapons' don't even have an agreed upon definition. It's just a term
    utilized for its scare factor. Everybody with a brain knows that those demonized weapons are the same damn thing as any semi-automatic hunting rifle. Look up some of the clips on all of the media missteps about what was used at Sandy Hook (as well as some of the other mass murder incidents). It's pretty clear that they're jumping to conclusions that support the proposed weapons banning (as well as cementing as much public opinion as possible for it) that may not even have any basis in reality.
    It's just our country's tyrants getting spooked because of the masses of public opinion turning against them. They're starting to realize that people see them for the tyrants that they are, and they're afraid that people will organize and eventually take up arms for the precise reasons that the 2nd Amendment was originally instituted for.

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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to First Officer on Sun Mar 3 18:47:49 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 11:34 pm

    Have you noticed the full court press by politicians at every level from city up to Obama and the progressive media to destroy our right to keep and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for
    an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what
    an assault weapon is and don't care if hammers kill more people they
    just want to band them.

    I disagree with this to a point Jeff.. They know that he did not use that assault rifle. They are not jumping up and down telling people about it. I would bet that at least 80% of the people You met on the street and asked would still tell you he used an assault rifle. They don't know any
    different because the Govt and the media are laying low on that info. I don't believe all these gun bans and control of ammo is about keeping our streets safe so to speak. I believe it is a bit deeper than that. They know what they are doing, but I believe they are trying to keep the common law abiding person from realizing it. I hate to think of what the excuse will
    be the next time a shooting spree happens and all these gun laws are in effect. Oh well nobody is stopping them either.


    Have a good One!
    Mike

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    Gun grabbers will use any and all means available to them to destroy our right to keep and bear arms. They will lie, cheat and steal to get your guns just like they did during Katrina and this latest round of B.S.. I don't believe a gun ban will happen in my lifetime because if they government tried it there would be much pain. Progressive tyrants and their handlers know they can never take total control of a population that is well armed.
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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Jeff.Clayton on Sun Mar 3 20:31:57 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

    and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

    Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun was left in the car.

    Enjoy your day!

    Bill

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  • From First Officer@VERT/HOLODECK to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 4 09:05:19 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Bill Mcgarrity to Jeff.Clayton on Sun Mar 03 2013 08:31 pm

    and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

    Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
    was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
    was left in the car.

    I posted a link to a clip. I am not sure if it was in this area or in the debate area, but it shows a news clip where the police actually find the assault rifle in the trunk of his vehicle, he never even brought it in to the school and the fact that he was laying dead in the school means he did not bring it back out and put it in his trunk himself. There were a lot of screwy things that went on and not reported aggressively by the media. I have also read in small little news blurbs that just as the news clip said, he did all his killing in that school with pistols, but that would not work well when trying to establish the gun laws they are pushing for.

    Have a good One!
    Mike

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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to First Officer on Mon Mar 4 20:11:25 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: First Officer to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 04 2013 09:05:19

    I posted a link to a clip. I am not sure if it was in this area or in the debate area, but it shows a news clip where the police actually find the assault rifle in the trunk of his vehicle, he never even brought it in to the school and the fact that he was laying dead in the school means he did not bring it back out and put it in his trunk himself. There were a lot of screwy things that went on and not reported aggressively by the media. I have also read in small little news blurbs that just as the news clip said, he did all his killing in that school with pistols, but that would not work well when trying to establish the gun laws they are pushing for.

    The original report was by NBC and was erronious. The state police confirmed it was the shotgun tht remained in the car and the Bushmaster along with the handguns were with the perp. Both sides of the fence are drumming up insane rants which is only compounding the issue.

    Be well....

    Bill

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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 4 22:15:25 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

    and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

    Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
    was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
    was left in the car.

    Enjoy your day!

    Bill

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    Not sure if you are trying to waste my time or not but here you go! It was not a shotgun that raised the cackles on the progressives! Watch and learn!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK8Z5K5M2Dw



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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Jeff.Clayton on Tue Mar 5 11:04:21 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 04 2013 22:15:25

    Well, as usual you show your ignorance. Your youtube video was dated 1/13. Here is a report from the CT State Police that says he was using the Bushmaster. I'll believe the police.

    http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/state-police-all-26-newtoiwnwn-vi ctims-shot-with-4222299.php

    This story was dates 1/25.

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Jeff.Clayton on Tue Mar 5 12:42:11 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to First Officer on Sun Mar 03 2013 18:47:49

    Gun grabbers will use any and all means available to them to destroy our rig to keep and bear arms. They will lie, cheat and steal to get your guns just like they did during Katrina and this latest round of B.S.. I don't believe gun ban will happen in my lifetime because if they government tried it there would be much pain. Progressive tyrants and their handlers know they can nev take total control of a population that is well armed.
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

    Jeff, I agree with you on the first couple of sentiments 100%. I'm curious, but do you personally think that there is any validity to some of the rumors going around about potential 'false-flag' shootings? I'm a big
    tinfoil hatter, as I know you've noticed, and honestly I thought that most of the conspiracy theories around the school and other shootings were a bunch of crap. I will admit, however, that when I saw the footage (aired once by CNN, then never seen again) of a man identified as a SWAT team member dressed in camo running from the Sandy Hook scene of the crime, I started wondering. He was cuffed and stuffed before the 'real' shooter was taken care of, and then he never received any more media attention.
    As far as it never happening in your lifetime, I don't agree. Unless you're planning on shuffling off this mortal coil in the very near future, anyway. Here's my reasoning: DOJ memos that have been leaked have stated that gun registration won't solve any problems and that it is to be used as a step towards confiscation. While Congress may not go through with Fenstein's draconian legislation, I think that they're gonna whittle away at the 2nd Amendment as much as they can, because most of the congresscritters are just as big of slaves to fear and propaganda as the American public is. If I'm wrong about that, Obama has certainly showed no problems with using executive orders to get around the limitations of the Constitution (or as he's on tape calling it, 'it's just an old piece of paper').
    The final piece of evidence that I'd say damns the whole unfeasibility of this within our lifetimes is the fact that immediately after his reinauguration, Obama gleefully called for a re-vote on the United Nations small weapons ban treaty, saying that he was ready to vote yes. Google a bit on UN weapons and armor stockpiled in the United States already; check out the Google Earth videos of the sheer magnitude of these APCs and other armaments visible from space, all stockpiled in the US near airports, just waiting for the blue helmets to pick it all up. If our soldiers won't use the force necessary to disarm their fellow Americans at gunpoint, there are certainly others who will.
    The tyrants know that we know, because they have failed completely in censoring the non-corporate media that has run rampant through the internet. That's the reason for Obama's kill switch, to keep us in the dark without anything except for corporate media (*cough* propaganda) when this is going on, and to limit the amount of information that will leak to the rest of the world when the blue helmets are marching through the streets. Martial law and Operation Gardenplot, baybeee. People have been getting crap and called insane tinfoil hat wearing fools since the 80s because of that stuff (oddly enough after congressional hearings in the mid 1970s verified that the CIA was planting stories in the corporate media way back THEN, even), but there's too much dissemination of information to label all of these people insane conspiracy theorists now.
    I can go on forever about this subject, of course. If you can't google any of the information that I've sent you tidbits about, let me know and I'll try to get a list made up for you as soon as I have the time.


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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Wed Mar 6 22:50:37 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

    and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

    Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
    was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
    was left in the car.

    Enjoy your day!

    Bill

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    Bill the report you used was wrong ! Good for you false info and false pride! SO smart are you!


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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Khelair on Wed Mar 6 23:00:37 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to First Officer on Sun Mar 03 2013 18:47:49

    Gun grabbers will use any and all means available to them to destroy our rig to keep and bear arms. They will lie, cheat and steal to get your guns just like they did during Katrina and this latest round of B.S.. I don't believe gun ban will happen in my lifetime because if they government tried it there would be much pain. Progressive tyrants and their handlers know they can nev take total control of a population that is well armed.
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

    Jeff, I agree with you on the first couple of sentiments 100%. I'm curious, but do you personally think that there is any validity to some of the rumors going around about potential 'false-flag' shootings? I'm a big tinfoil hatter, as I know you've noticed, and honestly I thought that most of the conspiracy theories around the school and other shootings were a bunch of crap. I will admit, however, that when I saw the footage (aired once by CNN, then never seen again) of a man identified as a SWAT team member dressed in camo running from the Sandy Hook scene of the crime, I started wondering. He was cuffed and stuffed before the 'real' shooter was taken care of, and then he never received any more media attention.
    As far as it never happening in your lifetime, I don't agree. Unless you're planning on shuffling off this mortal coil in the very near future, anyway. Here's my reasoning: DOJ memos that have been leaked have stated that gun registration won't solve any problems and that it is to be used as a step towards confiscation. While Congress may not go through with Fenstein's draconian legislation, I think that they're gonna whittle away
    at the 2nd Amendment as much as they can, because most of the congresscritters are just as big of slaves to fear and propaganda as the American public is. If I'm wrong about that, Obama has certainly showed no problems with using executive orders to get around the limitations of the Constitution (or as he's on tape calling it, 'it's just an old piece of paper').
    The final piece of evidence that I'd say damns the whole unfeasibility of this within our lifetimes is the fact that immediately after his reinauguration, Obama gleefully called for a re-vote on the United Nations small weapons ban treaty, saying that he was ready to vote yes. Google a bit on UN weapons and armor stockpiled in the United States already; check out the Google Earth videos of the sheer magnitude of these APCs and other armaments visible from space, all stockpiled in the US near airports, just waiting for the blue helmets to pick it all up. If our soldiers won't use the force necessary to disarm their fellow Americans at gunpoint, there are certainly others who will.
    The tyrants know that we know, because they have failed completely in censoring the non-corporate media that has run rampant through the
    internet. That's the reason for Obama's kill switch, to keep us in the dark without anything except for corporate media (*cough* propaganda) when this is going on, and to limit the amount of information that will leak to the rest of the world when the blue helmets are marching through the streets. Martial law and Operation Gardenplot, baybeee. People have been getting crap and called insane tinfoil hat wearing fools since the 80s because of that stuff (oddly enough after congressional hearings in the mid 1970s verified that the CIA was planting stories in the corporate media way back THEN, even), but there's too much dissemination of information to label all of these people insane conspiracy theorists now.
    I can go on forever about this subject, of course. If you can't google any of the information that I've sent you tidbits about, let me know and I'll try to get a list made up for you as soon as I have the time.


    -The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom of speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious
    manner to amuse myself.-

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    I do not believe Obama or his minions did constrict this attack (Sandy Hook).
    I do believe Americans are more resilient than our government believes them to be.

    The tyrants know many Americans are aware of their plans to disarm and devastate us but they like Obama and his progressive cadre do not know or understand us.
    Progressives do not comprehend what Americans will do to ensure we have
    liberty and a constitution to live by. Yes! We have been asleep. Even if five percent of Americans actively fought back Obama and his Progressives would be in a world of shit!
    Game over! U.N. and it's troops can not take direct attacks nor can they protect themselves. Every-time fighting starts they leave or call us!



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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Wed Mar 6 23:01:27 2013
    Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to All on Fri Mar 01 2013 23:34:24

    and bear arms after Sandy Hook? Yes these people have been pushing for an what they call an assault weapons ban when the killer at Sandy Hook left his in his car and used pistols. They do not even understand what an

    Jeff, could you pleasae quote your source where they said the Bushmaster
    was NOT used in the killings? According to the State Police, the shotgun
    was left in the car.

    Enjoy your day!

    Bill

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    Tsk Tsk Bill you can do better than that!



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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 7 09:45:09 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Mon Mar 04 2013 22:15:25

    Well, as usual you show your ignorance. Your youtube video was dated 1/13. Here is a report from the CT State Police that says he was using the Bushmaster. I'll believe the police.

    http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/state-police-all-26-newtoiwnw n-vi ctims-shot-with-4222299.php

    This story was dates 1/25.

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    Hey Bill when you get tired of blowing your own horn you might want to think about my major point here. No not the one on your head! I don't believe we
    will ever really know just what went on at Sandy Hook. The media, cops and
    feds all gave different scenarios many times. Bill if you want to debate get your carcass over to the Debate area! I will not be there!



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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Jeff.Clayton on Thu Mar 7 09:05:15 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Wed Mar 06 2013 22:50:37

    Tell me, you just saying the report was wrong makes it wrong? How arrogant. I showed you proof 12 days after your "you-tube" video stating the Bushmaster was used BY the State Police. Please, offer me proof that the State Police are wrong.



    Be well

    Bill

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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Jeff.Clayton on Thu Mar 7 11:23:33 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 09:45:09

    Hey Bill when you get tired of blowing your own horn you might want to think about my major point here. No not the one on your head! I don't believe we will ever really know just what went on at Sandy Hook. The media, cops and feds all gave different scenarios many times. Bill if you want to debate get your carcass over to the Debate area! I will not be there!


    jeff, if you call blowing my own horn telling the truth about a report by
    the state police saying the Bushmaster was used, then I'm going to blow away. You see, when confronted with facts, you have no course but to insult. I don't need to prove anything as I've supplied enough truth which you seem to be oblivious of.... as usual. I don't need to debate you as you've already shown your true colors as someone who stalks every known rediculous conspiricy site looking for proof of your insanity. Have a great day...

    Be well

    Bill

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  • From First Officer@VERT/HOLODECK to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 7 14:24:48 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Bill Mcgarrity to Jeff.Clayton on Thu Mar 07 2013 11:23 am

    you seem to be oblivious of.... as usual. I don't need to debate you as you've already shown your true colors as someone who stalks every known rediculous conspiricy site looking for proof of your insanity. Have a
    great day...

    I am just curious as to what constitutes fact. Somehow I don't see what makes reports that You have seen of the so called officials reporting an incident, any more credible than officials of the same organization reporting an incident
    that he had seen. I just wonder when two people see a different report on the same incident, what makes ones report more credible given the same circumstances. Please, I hope it is not because the news on television or radio
    said so. Just curious as to how one determines truth.


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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to First Officer on Thu Mar 7 21:41:22 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: First Officer to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 14:24:48

    Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed it.
    I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking for a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer. I don't have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializing with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of the police and then calling me out on it.




    I am just curious as to what constitutes fact. Somehow I don't see what makes reports that You have seen of the so called officials reporting an incident, any more credible than officials of the same organization reporting an incident that he had seen. I just wonder when two people see a different report on the same incident, what makes ones report more credible given the same circumstances. Please, I hope it is not because the news on television or radio said so. Just curious as to how one determines truth.

    Be well

    Bill

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  • From First Officer@VERT/HOLODECK to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 8 07:12:26 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Bill Mcgarrity to First Officer on Thu Mar 07 2013 09:41 pm

    Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed it.
    I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking for a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer.
    I don't have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializing with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of the police and then calling me out on it.

    Hi Bill, I was merely pointing out how crazy it is getting lately. We seem to have so many reports saying so many different things, even contradicting each other. It was a tongue in cheek jab at our media. Depending on who is reporting
    and what the agenda it seems news sources can say whatever they want. When reports by them conflict, sad but true, it is hard to wade through the BS.


    Have a good One!
    Mike

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Jeff.Clayton on Fri Mar 8 05:29:22 2013
    Re: Re: Disarmament of the citizens of the United States of 'Murrika
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Khelair on Wed Mar 06 2013 23:00:37

    I do not believe Obama or his minions did constrict this attack (Sandy Hook) I do believe Americans are more resilient than our government believes them be.

    The tyrants know many Americans are aware of their plans to disarm and devastate us but they like Obama and his progressive cadre do not know or understand us.
    Progressives do not comprehend what Americans will do to ensure we have liberty and a constitution to live by. Yes! We have been asleep. Even if fiv percent of Americans actively fought back Obama and his Progressives would b in a world of shit!
    Game over! U.N. and it's troops can not take direct attacks nor can they protect themselves. Every-time fighting starts they leave or call us!

    I don't know if I believe that Sandy Hook was a sort of 'false flag' either, really. I'm just saying that the 2nd dude in the woods near there that got arrested was really weird, and a lot of the media missteps around the initial reports coming out of the scene were odd, too. It's hard to know where to draw the line in what to believe and what not to believe when you know that your government is lying to you about so damn much.
    I've heard rumors (again, tough to know what is substantial) about Obama starting to purge lower-ranking high officers (that is, LTCs and above, I believe) regarding their agreement on standing down and allowing the UN to send in the blue helmets on our domestic soil, though. I suspect that it could be Plan B if he found too much resistance when he was purging general officers who weren't willing to agree to fire on US citizens should the 'need' arise. Allegedly anybody who didn't agree to this was given an amnesty period of sorts in which to declare their viewpoints and still receive an Honorable Discharge.

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 8 05:32:21 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Bill Mcgarrity to First Officer on Thu Mar 07 2013 21:41:22

    Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed
    I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer. I don have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializin with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of th police and then calling me out on it.

    Sorry, I wasn't involved in the original discussion with you, but I feel the need to chime in here a bit. Having worked in law enforcement in the past, I'm afraid that my own opinion on the matter would be that I wouldn't trust the news organization and I sure as hell wouldn't trust what the police are going to be saying about the issue. They'll do anything to protect public image as they feel the need to, and they bow to other concerns before sharing the actual facts with the public, as well.

    -The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom of speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious manner to amuse myself.-

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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 8 14:29:07 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 09:45:09

    Hey Bill when you get tired of blowing your own horn you might want to think about my major point here. No not the one on your head! I don't believe we will ever really know just what went on at Sandy Hook. The media, cops and feds all gave different scenarios many times. Bill if you want to debate get your carcass over to the Debate area! I will
    not be there!


    jeff, if you call blowing my own horn telling the truth about a report by the state police saying the Bushmaster was used, then I'm going to blow away. You see, when confronted with facts, you have no course but to
    insult. I don't need to prove anything as I've supplied enough truth which you seem to be oblivious of.... as usual. I don't need to debate you as you've already shown your true colors as someone who stalks every known rediculous conspiricy site looking for proof of your insanity. Have a
    great day...

    Be well

    Bill

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    Bill you really are a low information voter and slurper of the purple helmeted warrior. cock sucker! Like I said you could not get the point unless you touched the top of your pin-head! Stop trying to show case how intelligent you are because you are a slack ass fool! What a freaking joke!


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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Jeff.Clayton on Fri Mar 8 16:47:55 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 08 2013 14:29:07


    Bill you really are a low information voter and slurper of the purple helmeted warrior. cock sucker! Like I said you could not get the point unless you touched the top of your pin-head! Stop trying to show case how intelligent you are because you are a slack ass fool! What a freaking joke!

    Ahhh.. I knew the real you would finally rear your ugly head. I don't need to stoop to namecalling.. that's your issue and just shows your lack of intergraty... Beleive what you may, live in your bubble of fantasy and enjoy your life... whatever there is of it...

    Toodles!!!



    Be well

    Bill

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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 8 19:44:13 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: First Officer to Bill Mcgarrity on Thu Mar 07 2013 14:24:48

    Mike, the article I quoted was directly from the State Police who confirmed it.
    I ask you, who would you take at face value, any news organization looking for a "scoop" or directly from the mouth of the State Police lead officer.
    I don't have an issue with the 2nd Amendment, I do take issue to someone trivializing with a you-tube video by a news organization over the official release of the police and then calling me out on it.




    I am just curious as to what constitutes fact. Somehow I don't see
    what makes reports that You have seen of the so called officials reporting an incident, any more credible than officials of the same organization reporting an incident that he had seen. I just wonder
    when two people see a different report on the same incident, what
    makes ones report more credible given the same circumstances. Please,
    I hope it is not because the news on television or radio said so. Just curious as to how one determines truth.

    Be well

    Bill

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    Bill did you notice I went right to the kind of language you can understand? I will not belabor the point but you started your little sissy fit by calling me ignorant when clearly you do not understand that is an insult. You went on to act like a total jerk by assuming you actually know something about me other than as in the past I will not take crap off of bottom scrapers like you. You believe you got the truth just because you read something supposedly published by state police? I guess we all know police never lie or cover things up don't we! We saw how truthful they were at Ruby Ridge oh and then there was that fast and furious thing. Bill if you are a true believer in that a mean a progressive more power to you but don't ever think there is not truth outside your twisted little world! Please don't act like you have a brain as you sit there and act like an ass!
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Khelair on Fri Mar 8 19:56:47 2013
    Re: Re: Disarmament of the citizens of the United States of 'Murrika
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Khelair on Wed Mar 06 2013 23:00:37

    I do not believe Obama or his minions did constrict this attack (Sandy Hook) I do believe Americans are more resilient than our government believes them be.

    The tyrants know many Americans are aware of their plans to disarm and devastate us but they like Obama and his progressive cadre do not know
    or understand us.
    Progressives do not comprehend what Americans will do to ensure we have liberty and a constitution to live by. Yes! We have been asleep. Even if fiv percent of Americans actively fought back Obama and his Progressives would b in a world of shit!
    Game over! U.N. and it's troops can not take direct attacks nor can they protect themselves. Every-time fighting starts they leave or call us!

    I don't know if I believe that Sandy Hook was a sort of 'false flag' either, really. I'm just saying that the 2nd dude in the woods near there that got arrested was really weird, and a lot of the media missteps around the initial reports coming out of the scene were odd, too. It's hard to know where to draw the line in what to believe and what not to believe when you know that your government is lying to you about so damn much.
    I've heard rumors (again, tough to know what is substantial) about
    Obama starting to purge lower-ranking high officers (that is, LTCs and above, I believe) regarding their agreement on standing down and allowing the UN to send in the blue helmets on our domestic soil, though. I suspect that it could be Plan B if he found too much resistance when he was purging general officers who weren't willing to agree to fire on US citizens should the 'need' arise. Allegedly anybody who didn't agree to this was given an amnesty period of sorts in which to declare their viewpoints and still receive an Honorable Discharge.
    -The opinions expressed are not necessarily an advocation of any of the aforementioned ideologies, concepts, or actions. We still have the freedom of speech, for now, and I enjoy using it in a satirical or ficticious
    manner to amuse myself.-

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    Khelair there is much smoke and mirrors going on within our government and in the press. When you have a President like Obama who openly bribes members of congress to pass bills, who routinely breaks laws and actually hates our constitution anything is possible.

    Obama and his Progressive thugs lie right to the camera about everything from gun control to who actually proposed the sequester. No budgets since Obama has been in office yet they can by 2 billions hollow point rounds, armored
    vehicles and 7000 assault weapons for DHS! I think the ammo by is for two reasons one is to starve supply for citizens who know our government is illegitimate and to prepare for civil unrest that Obama has been fomenting.

    If the U.N. ever tries to lean on Americans all bets are off except we know
    the U.N. could not fight it's way out of a paper bag and would soon leave
    after taking a few casualties.
    I do believe Obama and his Progressives are trying to anger Christian
    Americans who believe in our constitution. The only problem for the progressives is Americans will fight and our military will stand with us. Lets hope it never comes to that.
    I have also heard of the purge in the military but do not believe Obama will
    be successful in turning our military against fellow Americans. No way no how!



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  • From Jeff.Clayton@VERT/KILNS to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 8 20:40:21 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 08 2013 14:29:07


    Bill you really are a low information voter and slurper of the purple helmeted warrior. cock sucker! Like I said you could not get the point unless you touched the top of your pin-head! Stop trying to show case how intelligent you are because you are a slack ass fool! What a freaking joke!

    Ahhh.. I knew the real you would finally rear your ugly head. I don't need to stoop to namecalling.. that's your issue and just shows your lack of intergraty... Beleive what you may, live in your bubble of fantasy and
    enjoy your life... whatever there is of it...

    Toodles!!!



    Be well

    Bill

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    Poor old Bill if you look back you were the one who started acting like a kid by calling me some fairly abrasive names. I just let you have it back so you understand even if it is hard to train you. Now don't waste anymore of my
    time.
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!
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  • From Bill Mcgarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to Jeff.Clayton on Fri Mar 8 20:27:17 2013
    Re: Re: Progressive Press
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Bill Mcgarrity on Fri Mar 08 2013 20:40:21


    Poor old Bill if you look back you were the one who started acting like a kid by calling me some fairly abrasive names. I just let you have it back so you understand even if it is hard to train you. Now don't waste anymore of my time.
    A life devoid of integrity and fairness is no life at all!

    Jeff, there is no need to continue like you either know me or care to know me. You've been marked as someone who has no integrity by many members here and I've read first had your insane rants over and over. You've proved both to me, the rest of the board and probably to yourself (altough highly unlikely) you're conspiracy rants and your ultimate hatred over anything you can't control is first and foremost your own demon, one that consistantly eats away your minimal reasoning skills. As I said, keep living in your fantasy world but make sure you keep the tinfoil in place.

    Just so you know... you can have the last word... as you are not worth my time anymore... I'd have better results talking with an 8th grade civics student.

    Toodles....

    Be well

    Bill

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  • From Khelair@VERT/TINFOIL to Jeff.Clayton on Mon Mar 11 03:52:30 2013
    Re: Re: Disarmament of the citizens of the United States of 'Murrika
    By: Jeff.Clayton to Khelair on Fri Mar 08 2013 19:56:47

    I do believe Obama and his Progressives are trying to anger Christian Americans who believe in our constitution. The only problem for the progressives is Americans will fight and our military will stand with us. Le hope it never comes to that.

    Jeff I've got to say I agree completely with what you've said in your reply. I was recently saddened to hear that one of my own local senators was actually out dining with Obama the day (and into the night) that Rand Paul was doing the fillibuster. I suppose I should have expected it, with all of the oil money that our state is pulling in, especially considering the state of the economy in the rest of the nation (ND), but it still made me ill.
    I really hope that you're right on the last little bit.


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