• Job growth slows in August

    From CNN Breaking News@VERT to no-reply@siteservices.cnn.com on Fri Sep 1 05:58:30 2017
    The US economy added only 156,000 jobs in August[1], less than recent months, according to the Labor Department.

    The unemployment rate rose a bit to 4.4%, as fewer adults reported that they had a job during the month.

    The Labor Department also revised down earlier estimates for job growth in both June and July by a total of 41,000 jobs, suggesting that the labor market is not as strong as it appeared to be a month ago.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT/TEQUILAM to CNN Breaking News on Fri Sep 1 09:24:00 2017
    CNN Breaking News wrote to no-reply@siteservices.cnn.com on 09-01-17 05:58
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    The US economy added only 156,000 jobs in August[1], less than recent months, according to the Labor Department.

    The unemployment rate rose a bit to 4.4%, as fewer adults reported that they had a job during the month.

    The Labor Department also revised down earlier estimates for job growth in both June and July by a total of 41,000 jobs, suggesting that the labor market is not as strong as it appeared to be a month ago.

    Not that I'm happy about this labor report one bit.... but it seems the 'House of Orange" is cracking from the weight or it's own boasting...

    Counting the days...


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  • From Leregard@VERT to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 05:39:28 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Roadhog to Leregard on Mon Sep 11 2017 12:54 am

    Fairly paid means you see what the private sector pays at a comparable type job.

    Oh, I can't agree with that at all. Taken to logical conclusions, the *private sector* will end up paying Indonesians, etc., $1.50/day. THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

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  • From Leregard@VERT to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 05:44:23 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Roadhog to Leregard on Mon Sep 11 2017 01:04 am

    Why should we give them way more than what we get? the government should start giving them the same as what we the taxpayer gets, their jobs (most of them) are not worth any more or have any more value than most private sector jobs.

    I really do understand what you're saying here... but the REAL problem is that the private sector should pay MORE. We're the richest country in the world, and our workers at the bottom will NEVER see it. Where's the "trickle down" we're supposed to see? It hasn't happened yet.

    Average workers in private industry would have to work 400+ years to make what a senior executive of their company makes in one year, so it's weird to me that government salaries are what bothers you. You're basically complaining about income inequality... and I don't disagree with that, but the public sector shouldn't have to adapt itself to winning a race to the bottom.

    But again, I don't live in California so maybe it really is that bad... I dont' know.

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  • From Leregard@VERT to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 05:56:27 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Leregard to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 2017 05:44 am

    Why should we give them way more than what we get? the government should start giving them the same as what we the taxpayer gets, their jobs (most of them) are not worth any more or have any more value than most private sector jobs.

    On a related note, I had to put some thought into saying this in a not-racist-sounding way, but I took a tour of some Microsoft offices in Seattle as part of a recruiting program, and the quantity of Indian guys with visas they are hiring and the jobs they are apparently outsourcing (through contractors, they'd never admit to doing it themselves) to basically coding sweatshops in Bangalore should seriously have us all worried. You can code from ANYWHERE and why wouldn't you send Indian guys to school in the US and then send them back to India and pay them in rupees?

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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to Leregard on Thu Sep 14 08:48:34 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Leregard to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 2017 05:56 am

    Why should we give them way more than what we get? the government
    should start giving them the same as what we the taxpayer gets,

    On a related note, I had to put some thought into saying this in a not-racist-sounding way, but I took a tour of some Microsoft offices in Seattle as part of a recruiting program, and the quantity of Indian guys with visas they are hiring and the jobs they are apparently outsourcing (through contractors, they'd never admit to doing it themselves) to basically coding sweatshops in Bangalore should seriously have us all worried. You can code from ANYWHERE and why wouldn't you send Indian guys to school in the US and then send them back to India and pay them in rupees?

    Many companies are using the H-1B visa program in a way it was not meant to be used, It was supposed to hire aliens only if there were no qualified Americans but they abuse it and hire outside our country and pay the foriegn workers less than half of what they would have to pay Americans, Disney and many other companies abuse the H-1B program.

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  • From Leregard@VERT to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 10:49:26 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Roadhog to Leregard on Thu Sep 14 2017 08:48 am

    Many companies are using the H-1B visa program in a way it was not meant to be used, It was supposed to hire aliens only if there were no qualified Americans but they abuse it and hire outside our country and pay the foriegn workers less than half of what they would have to pay Americans, Disney and many other companies abuse the H-1B program.

    The weird thing is I wouldn't mind so much if they paid them THE SAME as American workers. Just the FACT that cheap labor is available at all lowers wages for the Americans they do hire.

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  • From Leregard@VERT to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 10:55:57 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Leregard to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 2017 10:49 am

    Many companies are using the H-1B visa program in a way it was not meant to be used, It was supposed to hire aliens only if there were no qualified Americans but they abuse it and hire outside our country and pay the foriegn workers less than half of what they would have to pay Americans, Disney and many other companies abuse the H-1B program.

    The weird thing is I wouldn't mind so much if they paid them THE SAME as American workers. Just the FACT that cheap labor is available at all lowers wages for the Americans they do hire.

    Just to be clear, by the way, I don't have a solution to this. We're in a race to the bottom, and if they can pay us Chinese or Indonesian wages they will, obviously. By the logic of business, I can't blame them... they're playing the game by the rules. Reduce costs, maximize profits. On the other hand, fuck the rules. I'm just straight up mad about this and I think everyone NOT mad about it isn't paying attention. I'm not AT ALL a Trump supporter but this is the one piece of "Make America Great Again" I can absolutely sympathize with. It's WAY oversimplistic that immigrants are stealing are jobs... that's just not really true. ENTIRE OTHER COUNTRIES are stealing our jobs. Immigrants coming HERE are just as fucked as we are.

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  • From Leregard@VERT to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 10:58:55 2017
    Re: Job growth slows in August
    By: Leregard to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 2017 10:55 am

    qualified Americans but they abuse it and hire outside our country and pay the foriegn workers less than half of what they would have to pay Americans, Disney and many other companies abuse the H-1B program.

    are stealing our jobs. Immigrants coming HERE are just as fucked as we are.

    Granted, "just as fucked as we are" can still send a kid to college in Mexico, probably... we're not THAT bad, honestly we're not.... not YET anyway, but it doesn't look good.

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